Yeah, no. It is not the only place to play Mario. There’s emulation and Piracy. I’m quite certain skilled people will try to hack the Switch 2 and sooner or later there will be a Switch 2 emulation (although might take a while). €80-90 euro for one single game is nuts.
The only reason I would purchase a Switch 2 is when it is capable of being hacked.
Don’t forget the other obvious option: we don’t have to play mario. Also, there’s a used game market with a ton of older games and Nintendo doesn’t get a cent from that anymore.
No offence to folks who like Mario games, but I don’t personally feel good playing them. They have a working class protagonist who works to maintain monarchic status quo (fighting evil kingdom to defend another kingdom). Also the games encourage violence toward turtles. Not cool in my books.
Anyway, jokes aside, I’m not getting a Switch 2 anytime soon, will probably get a Steam Deck before that.
Interested too see how piracy works for the switch 2. I will not buy one, as much as I enjoy Nintendo’s games I cannot stand their software experience (UI, shovelware) or their eco system…how many peripherals do you need!?
Everyone knows Mario is cool as f–k. But who knows what he’s thinking? Who knows why he crushes turtles? And why do we think about him as fondly as we think of the mystical (nonexistent?) Dr Pepper? Perchance.
You underestimate how many people literally cannot stop themselves from playing Mario. I’d hope it’s mostly children begging their parents, but I have a feeling there’s a decent amount of 30 year olds with disposable income and zero impulse control in there.
I’m going to try very hard not to be, but I’m definitely the type of person you’re describing. That Nintendo direct had me drooling at the new Mario kart and donkey Kong games, and nothing hits like a zelda. Super mario wonder was a delight.
I only hope I can emulate this system relatively quickly. I am not a man of strong willpower.
Don’t feel bad for liking things. Your post kinda bums me out. Don’t let all this negative hype impact what will make you happy. If you can afford it. Do it. If you can’t then yeah don’t, but we as people are allowed to enjoy things.
I do! Many of my favorites are indie games, I’d say more than not. But I guess there’s some things that you can’t do without a massive budget or many many years in development, because many nintendo core franchises just aren’t beat in quality in my opinion, at least for some entries.
That’s why I’m just not looking at these new games. It would be interesting to know how they’re tackling an “open world” Mario Kart! But I already know it’s too expensive for what I’ll get out of it, so taking a look will only be bad for me in the long run.
The Switch was the generation where I really started to have adult money, and while a lot of the games I got were lower-priced indie titles, I did get pretty much all of the big 1st party titles.
There’s a reasonable chance I get a Switch 2, but I’m not gonna be buying a lot of games over $70, and the ones I do will probably be when they go on sale for like, 10-15% off. I suspect I’ll be buying fewer games this generation, and I’m okay with that.
It’s uncommon, absolutely. But I bought Super Mario Odyssey around the third time I got an alert that it was on sale, for $50 or so. This took a couple years, so it’s reasonably rare, but if the future looks like the past, it will happen
I introduced mine to undertale and other stuff like cuphead, old school sonic games and SNES emulators. We dont care about latest Mario’s, but he does have odyssey.
Streamers and YouTubers are mostly who I blame for this. They are influencers who showcase the games and it makes their fans want to buy it.
I can’t count how many times I’ve read online that so many people refuse to buy some game, then I go on YouTube and see like 5 YouTubers playing it day one, because they (or maybe even a fan) bought it.
I got a Wii for Christmas years ago. Never used it much. The last Nintendo console I bought was a game cube. You can easily live without Nintendo. They’re definitely decent games. Just not for that price.
Imagine going back to exclusivity with gaming consoles. PCs, and by extension, Steam won the console wars, and Nintendo is just trying its damnest to hold on to the last gasp of gaming exclusivity.
I will buy a Switch 2 for however much it costs and when Nintendo first party titles start costing a whole week of work plus overtime I will still buy them. I will take out a mortgage for the eventual $49,999.99 console and $4,999.99 games. I will sell individual organs directly to Nintendo for whatever they want. I will singlehandedly commit genocide with my bare hands for Nintendo. I will gladly die for Nintendo. I live to serve my angel of salvation.
Except it’s totally not. Maybe the only 100% legal in every single country way, but not the only way by half. Fuck Nintendo. Fuck $80+ for a game. And fuck the switch 2.
Buying it used? That used to be the norm. Or getting it at the library for free.
I believe Nintendo (and other industry leaders) are going to find out that their old games are the going to be the competition to their new games. If it’s too expensive and the old games are fun…there’s enough of a backlog for people to play.
In the case of them rereleasing old games without doing a remaster, in Canada at least, it is legal to have a digital back up for any game you own, and running it in an emulator is legal.
(Edit: I’m implying here that classic games are $80 on the Nintendo store, they are not. Still legal to have digital backups of modern games, still legal to emulate them as long as you own a physical copy.)
Sure, but it wouldn’t be $80 for most of them. (Edit: classic games on the Nintendo store are not $80, statement retracted. The general sentiment stands.)
Game deals is in New Westminster. Not necessarily great prices, but you can get Super Mario Cart for $60. And that’s a proper reseller, definitely get a better deal for a loose cart online…it doesn’t even have to be working. Get a better deal on one that isn’t functional, physical media degradation is one of the reasons why you’re able to keep digital copies.
You think they’re going to sell repackaged SNES and N64 games for less than that?(Edit: incorrect, they are in fact less than $80) How bout switch 1 games? Those are “modern” so significantly cheaper, still legal to have a backup, still legal to emulate…and will be run in an emulator on the switch 2, no native backwards compatibility.
As for switch 2 games…just waiting for a while getting them 2nd hand means they’ll be cheaper, if you can actually get a hardcopy, and all the things I just said still apply…
And he’s right. Switch 2 and its $80 games will not only sell like hot cakes, it will set the standard for AAA publishers going forward. I fully expect to see $100 base games as standard before the end of the next generational cycle, and they’ll still have microtransactions and endless special editions.
I’ll admit that I wasn’t sure about it at first and it was kind of an impulse buy, but I was hooked after my first couple of runs. Great game for the Steam Deck too.
Sure. Unless you have a gaming friend group that gets interested in some new multiplayer game. Then you either buy it so you can play with them, or you don’t play with them. If this continues for multiple games, you will slowly grow distant from your friend group.
That ought to be fine… it’s like saying your friends aren’t really your friends unless you play [x y or z]… In which case, I’m moving on to play what I enjoy.
Yup. Gamers, PC, console, mobile, all want their circus to escape reality, regardless of the cost short or long term.
I mean I keep hoping that gamers would have an epiphany and push back on these anti-consumer practices but I’ve seen nothing in the past twenty years, only desperate games defending being gouged.
Won’t they, though? Even disregarding the option of piracy, while new games will be $70 or $80 or whatever at launch, they go down eventually and Steam pricing has always been better than console.
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Yeah, no. It is not the only place to play Mario. There’s emulation and Piracy. I’m quite certain skilled people will try to hack the Switch 2 and sooner or later there will be a Switch 2 emulation (although might take a while). €80-90 euro for one single game is nuts.
The only reason I would purchase a Switch 2 is when it is capable of being hacked.
Don’t forget the other obvious option: we don’t have to play mario. Also, there’s a used game market with a ton of older games and Nintendo doesn’t get a cent from that anymore.
10 year old mario kart 8 is still like 70 bucks with the dlc. Why are people so shocked?
No offence to folks who like Mario games, but I don’t personally feel good playing them. They have a working class protagonist who works to maintain monarchic status quo (fighting evil kingdom to defend another kingdom). Also the games encourage violence toward turtles. Not cool in my books.
Anyway, jokes aside, I’m not getting a Switch 2 anytime soon, will probably get a Steam Deck before that.
Interested too see how piracy works for the switch 2. I will not buy one, as much as I enjoy Nintendo’s games I cannot stand their software experience (UI, shovelware) or their eco system…how many peripherals do you need!?
Everyone knows Mario is cool as f–k. But who knows what he’s thinking? Who knows why he crushes turtles? And why do we think about him as fondly as we think of the mystical (nonexistent?) Dr Pepper? Perchance.
You can’t just say “perchance.”
I guess I don’t play Mario then. It’s a pretty simple concept.
You underestimate how many people literally cannot stop themselves from playing Mario. I’d hope it’s mostly children begging their parents, but I have a feeling there’s a decent amount of 30 year olds with disposable income and zero impulse control in there.
I’m going to try very hard not to be, but I’m definitely the type of person you’re describing. That Nintendo direct had me drooling at the new Mario kart and donkey Kong games, and nothing hits like a zelda. Super mario wonder was a delight.
I only hope I can emulate this system relatively quickly. I am not a man of strong willpower.
Don’t feel bad for liking things. Your post kinda bums me out. Don’t let all this negative hype impact what will make you happy. If you can afford it. Do it. If you can’t then yeah don’t, but we as people are allowed to enjoy things.
Do you play many indie games? I feel like they’ve taken most of these formulas and really expanded on them, way more than Nintendo will do.
I do! Many of my favorites are indie games, I’d say more than not. But I guess there’s some things that you can’t do without a massive budget or many many years in development, because many nintendo core franchises just aren’t beat in quality in my opinion, at least for some entries.
That’s why I’m just not looking at these new games. It would be interesting to know how they’re tackling an “open world” Mario Kart! But I already know it’s too expensive for what I’ll get out of it, so taking a look will only be bad for me in the long run.
Sounds like they’re doing a Forza Horizon kind of setup, where you drive around the open world to get from one structured race to another.
It’s kinda cool in that it keeps you in the world, but also annoying if you just wanna bang through races
me! I’m that guy pre ordering the switch as soon as I can lol
The Switch was the generation where I really started to have adult money, and while a lot of the games I got were lower-priced indie titles, I did get pretty much all of the big 1st party titles.
There’s a reasonable chance I get a Switch 2, but I’m not gonna be buying a lot of games over $70, and the ones I do will probably be when they go on sale for like, 10-15% off. I suspect I’ll be buying fewer games this generation, and I’m okay with that.
Which is almost never.
It’s uncommon, absolutely. But I bought Super Mario Odyssey around the third time I got an alert that it was on sale, for $50 or so. This took a couple years, so it’s reasonably rare, but if the future looks like the past, it will happen
The fact that you have to have alerts to be able to get the games at a discount is pretty bad, but you’re doing it the right way!
I introduced mine to undertale and other stuff like cuphead, old school sonic games and SNES emulators. We dont care about latest Mario’s, but he does have odyssey.
Streamers.
Streamers and YouTubers are mostly who I blame for this. They are influencers who showcase the games and it makes their fans want to buy it.
I can’t count how many times I’ve read online that so many people refuse to buy some game, then I go on YouTube and see like 5 YouTubers playing it day one, because they (or maybe even a fan) bought it.
I got a Wii for Christmas years ago. Never used it much. The last Nintendo console I bought was a game cube. You can easily live without Nintendo. They’re definitely decent games. Just not for that price.
They do fill a “good for all ages” niche that not many other AAA games do nowadays. Which makes the exorbitant pricing especially strange.
Yeah, Switch 1 was a nice break from playing games on my PC.
Its much better than that. There’s plenty of Mario content to emulate.
Imagine going back to exclusivity with gaming consoles. PCs, and by extension, Steam won the console wars, and Nintendo is just trying its damnest to hold on to the last gasp of gaming exclusivity.
Or pirate it when the emulator inevitably happens
I will buy a Switch 2 for however much it costs and when Nintendo first party titles start costing a whole week of work plus overtime I will still buy them. I will take out a mortgage for the eventual $49,999.99 console and $4,999.99 games. I will sell individual organs directly to Nintendo for whatever they want. I will singlehandedly commit genocide with my bare hands for Nintendo. I will gladly die for Nintendo. I live to serve my angel of salvation.
uh I fuckin wish I could play mario 64, sunshine, or galaxy on my current generation switch
You can…
Dat’s da joke.
/r/whoosh for me then 😅🤣
me too, but it’s about sailing the seven seas right?
I wasnt talking about that. Those games were released on switch in a bundle lol
However that was a limited time bundle which they no longer sell. Cause fucking smarts.
https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Games/Nintendo-Switch-games/Super-Mario-3D-All-Stars-1832369.html
exactly this
They haven’t sold those games on switch for awhile
Oh wait I can…
I can just play one of the many other very good jump’n’run games that do not cost that much money.
Unless a game is on a qualitative excellent level, as BotW and TotK were, I’m not paying 80 bucks for it.
TotK was not worth 80$.
Should’ve been an add on to BotW for 40$
Or if you never had either, both as a “complete edition” for 100$ is fine too.
Disagree. TotK was absolutely worth it’s pricepoint. Not even going to argue about it, the game was phenomenal.
If I was a sociopathic ceo I would release an update for the Switch 1 that bricks it.
Except it’s totally not. Maybe the only 100% legal in every single country way, but not the only way by half. Fuck Nintendo. Fuck $80+ for a game. And fuck the switch 2.
What other legal way is there that doesn’t require you to pay full price for the game?
Buying it used? That used to be the norm. Or getting it at the library for free.
I believe Nintendo (and other industry leaders) are going to find out that their old games are the going to be the competition to their new games. If it’s too expensive and the old games are fun…there’s enough of a backlog for people to play.
That and indies.
In the case of them rereleasing old games without doing a remaster, in Canada at least, it is legal to have a digital back up for any game you own, and running it in an emulator is legal.
(Edit: I’m implying here that classic games are $80 on the Nintendo store, they are not. Still legal to have digital backups of modern games, still legal to emulate them as long as you own a physical copy.)
But then you still have to buy the game.
Sure, but it wouldn’t be $80 for most of them. (Edit: classic games on the Nintendo store are not $80, statement retracted. The general sentiment stands.)
Game deals is in New Westminster. Not necessarily great prices, but you can get Super Mario Cart for $60. And that’s a proper reseller, definitely get a better deal for a loose cart online…it doesn’t even have to be working. Get a better deal on one that isn’t functional, physical media degradation is one of the reasons why you’re able to keep digital copies.
I thought we were talking about Switch 2 games?
You think they’re going to sell repackaged SNES and N64 games for less than that?(Edit: incorrect, they are in fact less than $80) How bout switch 1 games? Those are “modern” so significantly cheaper, still legal to have a backup, still legal to emulate…and will be run in an emulator on the switch 2, no native backwards compatibility.
As for switch 2 games…just waiting for a while getting them 2nd hand means they’ll be cheaper, if you can actually get a hardcopy, and all the things I just said still apply…
They do not sell SNES and N64 games for $80, no. You know those are on the NSO app already, right?
Look, if you wanna be mad that Mario Kart World is $80, that’s fair to be mad at. But you don’t gotta make up misinformation.
Being in receipt of a gift.
But yes, that pricing is bullshit.
Fuck everyone! You cool Gabe.
But… it’s not the only place to play mario…
And he’s right. Switch 2 and its $80 games will not only sell like hot cakes, it will set the standard for AAA publishers going forward. I fully expect to see $100 base games as standard before the end of the next generational cycle, and they’ll still have microtransactions and endless special editions.
And I’ll continue to not buy them and support indie developers instead.
Me too. I’ve put more hours into Balatro and Tape To Tape than I care to admit…
Lmao rougelite hockey. Eventually there will be a rougelite for everything 😂
I’ll admit that I wasn’t sure about it at first and it was kind of an impulse buy, but I was hooked after my first couple of runs. Great game for the Steam Deck too.
Tape to tape? Oh that’s new to me… Thanks friend
If you enjoy hockey and roguelites, it’s the game for you.
Update: it’s a great game. I’m not even a huge hockey fan, but it sucked me right in.
Dammit. I really didn’t need another addicting game
Sure. Unless you have a gaming friend group that gets interested in some new multiplayer game. Then you either buy it so you can play with them, or you don’t play with them. If this continues for multiple games, you will slowly grow distant from your friend group.
Idgaf about online multiplayer, only local and singleplayer.
If the only thing keeping them as friends is playing all the latest ass-expensive games with them, they’re not worth having as friends.
Most groups like this have anchor games everyone goes back to after the 3 hours playing the new game is done. You can still be friends with them.
That ought to be fine… it’s like saying your friends aren’t really your friends unless you play [x y or z]… In which case, I’m moving on to play what I enjoy.
Yup. Gamers, PC, console, mobile, all want their circus to escape reality, regardless of the cost short or long term.
I mean I keep hoping that gamers would have an epiphany and push back on these anti-consumer practices but I’ve seen nothing in the past twenty years, only desperate games defending being gouged.
The game market crashed before. It can do so again.
And I will bail to PC as my main way of playing games. I know I’m going to have to eventually, the way the industry is going.
Doug Bowser confirmed variable pricing in an interview. Not every game will be $80
I bought a switch and those Zelda games during Covid. When I moved, the switch got boxed up. It’s still in the box today.
I’ll be skipping Switch #2 - $80 games reinforces the decision.
No thanks. I’ll keep playing my old games.
You see, when a good or service is priced too high, it fails to sell. Economics, bitch!
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Won’t they, though? Even disregarding the option of piracy, while new games will be $70 or $80 or whatever at launch, they go down eventually and Steam pricing has always been better than console.