Couldn’t find one when it came out. Covid happened, lost my job. Struggled financially. Finally getting back on my feet. Riding cost of living and inflation eating all my spare cash. Cant afford one now. Sigh. If only they were available at release I would have got one.
Most consoles have had a life span of 6 - 7 years. PS5 is just over 3 years. Talk about the PS6 all you want but if it releases before 2027 I’m waiting.
I just missed this gen entirely, and with the exception of the Switch’s successor, I don’t think I’m going to be buying another console for a very long time.
I used to be a dedicated console gamer… I had an NES growing up, then a Genesis, Saturn, and Dreamcast. Picked up a Game Cube somewhere along the way. Then I had the Xbox, Xbox 360, PS3, PS4, WiiU, and finally the XBOne and Switch. I’ve had PCs mixed in there from time to time, but most gaming was done in the living room on console.
Then the Series X/S and PS5 come around… there were the massive supply issues, and everything was moving to 4K and I didn’t have 4K, and none of it seemed worth the upgrade. At this point my laptop was a dinosaur from 2011 and needed to be replaced anyway. So I built a desktop PC, which gets gamed on alongside my Switch, and my XBOne has been gathering dust.
At this point the only console I’d consider is a Nintendo console, but I’m actually thinking about skipping it this time around. Or at least waiting until there are a bunch of games for it.
Usually nintendo consoles get emulated pretty quickly, so maybe I’ll skip it altogether this time. But I guess let’s see what they release with it.
It still doesn’t feel like there’s been a proper ‘next-gen’ game yet. There were a lot of cross-gen games that seemed to dampen the feeling of the gen starting. Maybe FFVII Rebirth will change that for me; I dunno.
I agree. Maybe it’s because all the games can play with lower graphical settings on older PCs. My desktop was mid-tier in Xbox one days, and has about the same performance as a steam deck. I don’t think there are any games I can’t play.
I dunno, after playing the opening sequence of Spider-Man 2 I thought “oh there’s no way they could do this on a PS4”. The graphics are just insane. Gameplay? Sure, nothing spectacularly out of range of the previous gen. But that came out late last year so it definitely feels like we’re just starting to get there.
I watched a playthrough and I kinda have to agree. While I think they definitely could have made it work for PS4 (and by extension Xbox and PC) it probably wouldn’t have played nearly as well.
I think you’ve really nailed it with this. Some of the best games over the last few years have been remakes and sequels. I can’t remember the last new IP that was a big deal. Elden Ring? But that’s as close to “sequel” as you can get without strictly being called a sequel.
All the new IPs that have come out haven’t been all that good.
It’s the cross gen fade. So, ps5 had lots of great games, but half or more also came out on the ps4 as it dragged out past its expiry, and this was intentional because ps4 has a much larger install base than ps5 had for the forst 2-3 years, so it made sense to do that. The second half of the ps5’s life should yield better looking games that won’t be ported to ps4, and eventually games that will land also on ps6 in a few years. The lines between generations are blurry now.
I think that’s because the current gen is just “last gen, but more powerful”. Nothing really got innovated this time around, and the architectures for the current platforms are almost identical to the last ones (which is part of the reason cross-gen has been so popular with developers, as it’s very easy to implement).
I do feel that catering to cross-gen is creating a situation where a lot of games just aren’t taking advantage of the capabilities of the current gen properly, in order to maintain parity with the “weaker” versions of the same titles.
I feel like that has been the case but lately there have been more proper next-gen exclusives that even I, who drags my feet on next gen consoles, am putting aside some cash for PS5. Up until now I didn’t feel the need, but between Spiderman and FF7, I think it’s time.
I feel like I reached that point much earlier in the last console generations than I did in this one. Maybe that has to do with the speed of development being so much slower nowadays.
They’re not getting older faster. You’re older, so time feels faster now.
Also, the scarcity of current gen consoles for the first couple years kinda made it seem like the current generation only barely started since most people only barely got their current-gen hardware in the last year or so, but keep in mind we’re currently in the 4th year of the 9th gen at this point. This gen started in 2020. We’re past the halfway point for most generations by now.
Seems like not many exclusives really released. And it just being a few sequels and remasters as opposed to new IPs makes it feel like the console gen isn’t even mid way by past standards.
I think the fact that games (seemed to?) always released on both current and previous gen made that one kind of weird, at the same time with consoles becoming more and more like PCs (same architecture means it’s easier to adjust settings and make games work on two gens), it’s not surprising…
I know what you mean and I think it’s because it had a rocky start. This generation of consoles was plagued by availability issues due to the chip shortage which made the transition period from the ps4 to ps5 a drawn out affair.
It’s going to be weird seeing them introduce next gen stuff at some point. Already my steam deck is like a high end Xbox one and I’m happy with graphics and performance. I can’t imagine seeing any noticeable changes in graphics in the ps6.
I still haven’t seen a must play game on the ps5 or series x, especially not one that won’t come to pc. Closest so far is spiderman 2, but I’ll wait for the PC release.
The PS5 IMO is maybe the ugliest recent gen game consoles anybody’s released. Thing looks fucking atrocious and it’s huge. I’m pretty casual and don’t give a lot of shits about bleeding edge whatever and literally it was the way this thing looks that swayed me away from buying one a couple years ago.
The design does look like it’s from one of those ‘this is what the PS4 will look like in 2010’ videos you’d see on YouTube in 2008 next to the Xbox 720 and Nintendo WiiDS. Should’ve also given the controller 4 analogue sticks to really sell it.
„Free“ online play is kind of a marketing gag. I have heard that consoles seem to want money for online play which is ridicolous. If the server is run on the users pc/console, there is literally no reason for taking money for online capability.
And yes, linux support is pretty awesome. Also steam link!
I’m curious how many people stayed on PS+ after that insane price hike with no benefit for the consumer. I canceled mine mid-way through the news article lol
Can we really say a “next generation” console is “in its latter stages of life cycle” when people like me have yet to buy a “next generation” console, and have bought every new game for said console?
I’m not denying it’s got better specs. People always jump all over that, tripping over themselves to “um ackshyully” about how it really is superior in every way making it a “next generation” but come on… If I can get the same or similar experience on “last generation” then is there really enough difference to call it a different generation?
Take my sister in law vs my me vs my wife. We are all millenials.
But SIL is start of the millenials, my wife is tail of the millenials, and I’m sitting around the 3/4 mark. We all had differing experiences growing up based on the years we were on our formative years, but we’re all “the same generation”
My wife’s best friend is a generation below us, but they have far more in common and should really be considered the same generation, IMO.
I hope I get my point across clear enough for someone to figure it out…
It just doesn’t really feel “next generation” to me.
I just bought one…only because my PS4 died (OG white, RIP). There was nothing on PS5 that ever came out that said “you have to buy this!” I got the original PS4 to play Persona 5 and Final Fantasy XV. I just never was inspired by the design (and I am a sucker for modern design!!!) nor the catalog. I am sure I am not alone.
Sony now expects to sell 4 million fewer PS5 consoles in its 2023 fiscal year ending March 31st compared to previous projections, Bloomberg reports.
In its third quarter, Sony’s gaming revenue was up 16 percent versus the same period the previous year, sitting at 1.4 trillion yen (around $9.3 billion), but operating income was down 26 percent to 86.1 billion yen (around $572 million) due to promotions in the third quarter ending on December 31st.
According to Sony, the company plans to emphasize profitability over unit sales as the console approaches its fourth birthday.
“Looking ahead, PS5 will enter the latter stage of its life cycle,” said Sony senior vice president Naomi Matsuoka in comments reported by Bloomberg.
For this reason, we expect the annual sales pace of PS5 hardware will start falling from the next fiscal year.” Sony added it has no plans to release “any new major existing franchise titles” in its next fiscal year.
Later this year, Microsoft is expected to release a refreshed Xbox Series S and a disc-less Xbox Series X codenamed Brooklin with double the amount of storage as its existing model, while Nintendo is also expected to release a follow-up to its seven year-old Switch console.
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I feel like the PS5 just came out. Damn, the last few years just disappeared. Just kidding, it’s only been out for 2 years. I don’t see something can be at the end of its life when it’s barely even came out.
It’s 3 years and 3 months. Not 2 years. And given the mediocre performance it already had when it was released I wouldn’t be surprised if it will have a pretty short life cycle
*5 years to make a AAA over the shoulder cinematic experience that has to appeal to investors who dont play video games and the lowest common denominator
I’d honestly be pretty upset if Sony decides to ditch PS5 right when the system is starting to hit it’s stride now. I’ve already been playing more PC/Steam Deck compared to my PS5 and Switch.
I’ve literally gotten to the point where I’m low on ps4 games and finally decided it’s time for ps5. They better price drop it or I’m gonna skip it altogether if this is the latter half
To get a gaming PC comparable to a ps5 would set me back roughly $2-3k, and it’s outdated the moment I get it. I’d still prefer a console that will always run the games I pop in. I have no idea where PC gamers get their computers but a current gen gaming PC where I am costs as much as a car. Building one is not an option, I’m just not the kind of person who can do that.
So more money for a worse experience? Again that’s why I and so many other will always choose consoles, cause you pop in the game you bought and it works. No need to downgrade it or sitting there troubleshooting for an hour just so you can get it to run. PC gaming is such a huge headache, I always end up returning half the games I buy on steam
I have a steam library of over 100 games and I’ve been exclusively gaming on PC since 2014. I can count the amount of times I’ve had trouble playing a game on one hand since then. If you’re refunding half the games you get then your PC is fucked and you’re doing something wrong.
I’ve also never had to troubleshoot anything but modded games which is to be expected. PC gaming is easier than ever these days.
That said I fully get why so many people prefer consoles but don’t spread bullshit cause you suck at using a PC buddy.
Yeah but there are also people still gaming on an NES. There are pros and cons whichever way you go but PC hardware doesn’t have quite the same longevity as developers aren’t constrained by a single design shared amongst their entire customer base. The PS4 came out in 2013 and still has games being released for it. To compare that to PCs, those were the days of a 3GB GTX 780 being top of the line.
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Couldn’t find one when it came out. Covid happened, lost my job. Struggled financially. Finally getting back on my feet. Riding cost of living and inflation eating all my spare cash. Cant afford one now. Sigh. If only they were available at release I would have got one.
Most consoles have had a life span of 6 - 7 years. PS5 is just over 3 years. Talk about the PS6 all you want but if it releases before 2027 I’m waiting.
Line must go up!
It’s three years old and the performance is fine. Shut up and collect your royalties on the blue-box versions of everyone else’s games.
It’s going to be 4 years old this year in an industry that until recently had 5 year life cycles, it makes sense it’s slowing down.
The PS3/Xbox 360 generation was artificially extended by the 2008 financial crisis (2005 - 2013).
It really looks like the PS5/XSX generation is going to be shortened by Covid.
It’s so weird that these consoles are in the latter stages of their life. Was it just this generation that was weird or am I just getting old?
It seems that they are not as popular as the Xbox one and ps4 were. Maybe I just checked out of modern gaming.
I just missed this gen entirely, and with the exception of the Switch’s successor, I don’t think I’m going to be buying another console for a very long time.
I used to be a dedicated console gamer… I had an NES growing up, then a Genesis, Saturn, and Dreamcast. Picked up a Game Cube somewhere along the way. Then I had the Xbox, Xbox 360, PS3, PS4, WiiU, and finally the XBOne and Switch. I’ve had PCs mixed in there from time to time, but most gaming was done in the living room on console.
Then the Series X/S and PS5 come around… there were the massive supply issues, and everything was moving to 4K and I didn’t have 4K, and none of it seemed worth the upgrade. At this point my laptop was a dinosaur from 2011 and needed to be replaced anyway. So I built a desktop PC, which gets gamed on alongside my Switch, and my XBOne has been gathering dust.
At this point the only console I’d consider is a Nintendo console, but I’m actually thinking about skipping it this time around. Or at least waiting until there are a bunch of games for it.
Usually nintendo consoles get emulated pretty quickly, so maybe I’ll skip it altogether this time. But I guess let’s see what they release with it.
Probably because of the chip shortage at the beginning of the cycle making the consoles unavailable to buy.
And price
It still doesn’t feel like there’s been a proper ‘next-gen’ game yet. There were a lot of cross-gen games that seemed to dampen the feeling of the gen starting. Maybe FFVII Rebirth will change that for me; I dunno.
I agree. Maybe it’s because all the games can play with lower graphical settings on older PCs. My desktop was mid-tier in Xbox one days, and has about the same performance as a steam deck. I don’t think there are any games I can’t play.
Have you tried Flight Simulator 2020?
I dunno, after playing the opening sequence of Spider-Man 2 I thought “oh there’s no way they could do this on a PS4”. The graphics are just insane. Gameplay? Sure, nothing spectacularly out of range of the previous gen. But that came out late last year so it definitely feels like we’re just starting to get there.
I watched a playthrough and I kinda have to agree. While I think they definitely could have made it work for PS4 (and by extension Xbox and PC) it probably wouldn’t have played nearly as well.
I mean it would definitely play better on pc if they made a proper version for it lol.
Just my thought.
A new version or #6 will not change this. Cross-gen for the sake of making money takes away exclusivity.
Nintendo took his chance by betting on mobile.
A lot of remakes and no risk for new ideas. The market is feed up and also mobile smartphone casual gaming takes its toll.
They would better save the money for a new hardware and try to bring some fresh ideas.
Just my 5c
Inflation is really hitting everywhere. First it was a penny for your thoughts, then it was putting in your 2 cents, now it’s 5c for a comment.
Its just with tax, I don’t want to get in trouble with the IRS
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I think you’ve really nailed it with this. Some of the best games over the last few years have been remakes and sequels. I can’t remember the last new IP that was a big deal. Elden Ring? But that’s as close to “sequel” as you can get without strictly being called a sequel.
All the new IPs that have come out haven’t been all that good.
There are just SO MANY remakes and sequels.
It’s the cross gen fade. So, ps5 had lots of great games, but half or more also came out on the ps4 as it dragged out past its expiry, and this was intentional because ps4 has a much larger install base than ps5 had for the forst 2-3 years, so it made sense to do that. The second half of the ps5’s life should yield better looking games that won’t be ported to ps4, and eventually games that will land also on ps6 in a few years. The lines between generations are blurry now.
I think that’s because the current gen is just “last gen, but more powerful”. Nothing really got innovated this time around, and the architectures for the current platforms are almost identical to the last ones (which is part of the reason cross-gen has been so popular with developers, as it’s very easy to implement).
I do feel that catering to cross-gen is creating a situation where a lot of games just aren’t taking advantage of the capabilities of the current gen properly, in order to maintain parity with the “weaker” versions of the same titles.
That, and there are way less console exclusives.
I feel like that has been the case but lately there have been more proper next-gen exclusives that even I, who drags my feet on next gen consoles, am putting aside some cash for PS5. Up until now I didn’t feel the need, but between Spiderman and FF7, I think it’s time.
I feel like I reached that point much earlier in the last console generations than I did in this one. Maybe that has to do with the speed of development being so much slower nowadays.
You’re old. The generations just keep getting older faster, and that trend won’t stop until you do
They’re not getting older faster. You’re older, so time feels faster now.
Also, the scarcity of current gen consoles for the first couple years kinda made it seem like the current generation only barely started since most people only barely got their current-gen hardware in the last year or so, but keep in mind we’re currently in the 4th year of the 9th gen at this point. This gen started in 2020. We’re past the halfway point for most generations by now.
Wwwhoooosh.
Thanks for missing the point of my comment and then reiterating what I said in the fashion of “clunky” and “pedantic”.
Seems like not many exclusives really released. And it just being a few sequels and remasters as opposed to new IPs makes it feel like the console gen isn’t even mid way by past standards.
I think the fact that games (seemed to?) always released on both current and previous gen made that one kind of weird, at the same time with consoles becoming more and more like PCs (same architecture means it’s easier to adjust settings and make games work on two gens), it’s not surprising…
I know what you mean and I think it’s because it had a rocky start. This generation of consoles was plagued by availability issues due to the chip shortage which made the transition period from the ps4 to ps5 a drawn out affair.
That’s kinda what I’m thinking too.
It’s going to be weird seeing them introduce next gen stuff at some point. Already my steam deck is like a high end Xbox one and I’m happy with graphics and performance. I can’t imagine seeing any noticeable changes in graphics in the ps6.
I’ve been thinking that since the original Quake came out… there’s always room for improvement!
I still haven’t seen a must play game on the ps5 or series x, especially not one that won’t come to pc. Closest so far is spiderman 2, but I’ll wait for the PC release.
That’s why I am buying only Nintendo consoles (and good PCs)
I don’t even know if you need a good PC anymore, a steam deck and a Nintendo will do fine
Well, strategy games with large monitors with fine resolution is something I want to be able to play at at least 60FPS or higher.
That’s where I am these days.
The PS5 IMO is maybe the ugliest recent gen game consoles anybody’s released. Thing looks fucking atrocious and it’s huge. I’m pretty casual and don’t give a lot of shits about bleeding edge whatever and literally it was the way this thing looks that swayed me away from buying one a couple years ago.
The design does look like it’s from one of those ‘this is what the PS4 will look like in 2010’ videos you’d see on YouTube in 2008 next to the Xbox 720 and Nintendo WiiDS. Should’ve also given the controller 4 analogue sticks to really sell it.
That’s a good way to explain it. “retrofuturism” but from 2008.
Yeah the console itself really does have big 4-analog-stick energy
Steam has won me over. Cheap games and free online play. And now amazing Linux support.
„Free“ online play is kind of a marketing gag. I have heard that consoles seem to want money for online play which is ridicolous. If the server is run on the users pc/console, there is literally no reason for taking money for online capability.
And yes, linux support is pretty awesome. Also steam link!
I’m curious how many people stayed on PS+ after that insane price hike with no benefit for the consumer. I canceled mine mid-way through the news article lol
Been on PS+ for 7 years and canceled it immediately when I saw the price hike. Also, not going to buy consoles anymore since they’ve gone to shit.
Personal feelings agead: not based in facts.
Can we really say a “next generation” console is “in its latter stages of life cycle” when people like me have yet to buy a “next generation” console, and have bought every new game for said console?
I’m not denying it’s got better specs. People always jump all over that, tripping over themselves to “um ackshyully” about how it really is superior in every way making it a “next generation” but come on… If I can get the same or similar experience on “last generation” then is there really enough difference to call it a different generation?
Take my sister in law vs my me vs my wife. We are all millenials.
But SIL is start of the millenials, my wife is tail of the millenials, and I’m sitting around the 3/4 mark. We all had differing experiences growing up based on the years we were on our formative years, but we’re all “the same generation”
My wife’s best friend is a generation below us, but they have far more in common and should really be considered the same generation, IMO.
I hope I get my point across clear enough for someone to figure it out…
It just doesn’t really feel “next generation” to me.
I just bought one…only because my PS4 died (OG white, RIP). There was nothing on PS5 that ever came out that said “you have to buy this!” I got the original PS4 to play Persona 5 and Final Fantasy XV. I just never was inspired by the design (and I am a sucker for modern design!!!) nor the catalog. I am sure I am not alone.
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It is kind of nice that it’s set up in a way that makes third party side panels trivial.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Sony now expects to sell 4 million fewer PS5 consoles in its 2023 fiscal year ending March 31st compared to previous projections, Bloomberg reports.
In its third quarter, Sony’s gaming revenue was up 16 percent versus the same period the previous year, sitting at 1.4 trillion yen (around $9.3 billion), but operating income was down 26 percent to 86.1 billion yen (around $572 million) due to promotions in the third quarter ending on December 31st.
According to Sony, the company plans to emphasize profitability over unit sales as the console approaches its fourth birthday.
“Looking ahead, PS5 will enter the latter stage of its life cycle,” said Sony senior vice president Naomi Matsuoka in comments reported by Bloomberg.
For this reason, we expect the annual sales pace of PS5 hardware will start falling from the next fiscal year.” Sony added it has no plans to release “any new major existing franchise titles” in its next fiscal year.
Later this year, Microsoft is expected to release a refreshed Xbox Series S and a disc-less Xbox Series X codenamed Brooklin with double the amount of storage as its existing model, while Nintendo is also expected to release a follow-up to its seven year-old Switch console.
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I feel like the PS5 just came out. Damn, the last few years just disappeared. Just kidding, it’s only been out for 2 years. I don’t see something can be at the end of its life when it’s barely even came out.
It’s 3 years and 3 months. Not 2 years. And given the mediocre performance it already had when it was released I wouldn’t be surprised if it will have a pretty short life cycle
3 years is nothing. It takes 5 years at least to make a game.
*5 years to make a AAA over the shoulder cinematic experience that has to appeal to investors who dont play video games and the lowest common denominator
Apologies for some reason I’m a couple years behind.
I’d honestly be pretty upset if Sony decides to ditch PS5 right when the system is starting to hit it’s stride now. I’ve already been playing more PC/Steam Deck compared to my PS5 and Switch.
I’ve literally gotten to the point where I’m low on ps4 games and finally decided it’s time for ps5. They better price drop it or I’m gonna skip it altogether if this is the latter half
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To get a gaming PC comparable to a ps5 would set me back roughly $2-3k, and it’s outdated the moment I get it. I’d still prefer a console that will always run the games I pop in. I have no idea where PC gamers get their computers but a current gen gaming PC where I am costs as much as a car. Building one is not an option, I’m just not the kind of person who can do that.
That investment can last you longer than a consoles life span, especially if you can tweak windows and run lower settings or use Linux.
There’s people still gaming on 1080s
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So more money for a worse experience? Again that’s why I and so many other will always choose consoles, cause you pop in the game you bought and it works. No need to downgrade it or sitting there troubleshooting for an hour just so you can get it to run. PC gaming is such a huge headache, I always end up returning half the games I buy on steam
No, more money for a customized experience that will meet your needs for the next decade
I have a steam library of over 100 games and I’ve been exclusively gaming on PC since 2014. I can count the amount of times I’ve had trouble playing a game on one hand since then. If you’re refunding half the games you get then your PC is fucked and you’re doing something wrong.
I’ve also never had to troubleshoot anything but modded games which is to be expected. PC gaming is easier than ever these days.
That said I fully get why so many people prefer consoles but don’t spread bullshit cause you suck at using a PC buddy.
This. Also, steamlink works great imo so playing on my couch is very much possible now, even on linux.
Yeah but there are also people still gaming on an NES. There are pros and cons whichever way you go but PC hardware doesn’t have quite the same longevity as developers aren’t constrained by a single design shared amongst their entire customer base. The PS4 came out in 2013 and still has games being released for it. To compare that to PCs, those were the days of a 3GB GTX 780 being top of the line.
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