And all the other games. HD2 is the only one where they ended up going back on it, a few days later it was announced that it would be a requirement for Ghost of Tsushima but no one cared anymore because “Not a requirement for HD2! Yay!”

Interesting, I looked into it about 6 months ago and all the info was not to use the link so maybe they didn’t go on the page because everyone was saying not to 🤷

Just install Mint or Bazzite, Steam OS is intentionally locked down more than it needs to be.

Or it was filmed before Valve updated the info on the page

Just install Bazzite this way you have the actual Linux flexibility and an OS made for PC.

I think game enthusiasts (i.e. people hanging on the Internet to talk about games) don’t realize the difference in sales for a successful innovative game (Stardew Valley for example) and mainstream games… Sure Stardew sold 40m copies since 2016, but CoD sells 10m+ every year!

Yet I’m sure it doesn’t keep you from buying from Steam when games are only on there, right?

Don’t talk about wanting a free market if that’s not what you want.

How often do you hear about NFTs in games?

How often do you hear about lootboxes?

I’ll defend any alternative to Steam, you guys just like to focus on Epic.

Steam inventing lootboxes and facilitating underage gambling? Bah

Remember that time Valve was accessing people’s DNS cache to check what websites they had visited? Yeah, we don’t talk about that…

How about that 30% cut letting Gabe own a yacht… Collection! Just another friendly billionaire, nothing to worry about.

Who’s cock sucking here exactly? 🤔

Oh so a free market where companies can decide to sign exclusivity contracts isn’t ok but a free market where everything is released on the platform that you like is ok.

Sufficient consumer protection would see Valve being broken apart as a preventive measures because they’re in a position where they can sway the market any way they want and there’s nothing anyone can do about it. Funny how you guys never talk about their monopolistic position in the market, right?

BuT tHeIr CrApPy LaUnChEr!

Try to come up with something a bit more original. You don’t give a crap about exclusives as long as they’re on the platform you like, it’s pure hypocrisy.

Piracy vs gifts aren’t the same thing.

That’s the thing though, you can make an excellent game and never recoup your cost just because you didn’t get the luck of the draw.

Do you know how many games released on Steam this year? 18k. How many did you hear about? How many were successful? How many were good but didn’t get the coverage they needed? Hell, sometimes you have indie games that will suddenly become successful years down the road. It’s. Just. Gambling.

Even for a well established company, sometimes one in the hand is worth two in the bush.

We see big studios that made successful games going bankrupt every year, don’t you think a studio like that would have loved to have an income guarantee so they could finish their next project instead of closing their doors?

The analogy I used makes more sense with indie games because I’m talking about having a job (small scale), but the same logic applies to companies.

A company like Lockheed Martin will do R&D to come up with new engines and hope to recoup their cost by selling the technology later on, they’ll also sign governmental contracts with guaranteed payments as the project moves forward. You need a mix of both.

Bullshit. The only way it ruins PC gaming is by forcing you to use a launcher that isn’t Steam, you will never complain about all the games that only release on Steam.

18k games released on Steam this year, how many did you hear about and how many were actually successful?

There’s tons of good games that just won’t sell enough for the devs to recoup their cost just because no streamer decided to play them. Go read on indie devs communities what the experience is like when releasing a game you put your heart and soul into only to get no coverage and no sales.

I’m talking about smaller studios but even for big studios, guaranteed income instead of gambling can be more interesting for certain projects.

The logic is still the same.

It’s like selling your product at Costco instead of Walmart. Costco will rent you the space to sell it for a certain amount of time and you are gambling on the fact that you’ll make more revenue than the rental cost you, Walmart buys your product and sells it for more. Hell, Walmart even pays for exclusive products as well so the example truly fits. It doesn’t prevent companies from selling other products at Costco, but it gives them a guaranteed income from one source.

There’s programs that keep track of all your libraries… GOG Galaxy is one of them.

You realize paid exclusives gives a guaranteed income to devs so they don’t have to rely on the Steam gamble?

Would you work for your employer if you had no guarantee you would get paid and you had to wait years for your potential first paycheque?

It’s their marketing budget they’re spending on that

You can skip one step and have just have many steps as if you had bought it on Steam, just launch it from the Epic launcher directly, ta-fucking-da

Install, launch from the shortcut on the left side of the main screen. How much easier do you want them to make it?

Never had to fill a captcha to get one of the free games

Lulz

You need to be in your 20s to play Souls games? No one told me! I would have stopped before DS2 released if I had known!

Never said it isn’t, I said story isn’t the thing that made it and Valve popular.

I’m old enough to remember when it released, story wasn’t the focus.

Half life is far from Planescape Torment…

They’re publically traded, their finances are public, the Wii and Switch secured the company for decades

Nintendo could afford to release 10 failed consoles in a row and still keep going, that was the case back when the Wii U released as well

Morally bankrupt? I’m not the guy defending the billionaire yacht collector who operates a monopoly here.

No need to defend the guy who owns a yacht collection buddy, I’m sure he does perfectly fine without you

You didn’t answer my question

Never said I boycott Steam, I said I don’t boycott any of them

Where are all the memes about Steam exclusives then?

“make yourself suffer”

I open Steam, switch to the library open my game and play

I open Epic, open my game from the main screen and play

So much suffering! Heck, I also sent more money to the devs through that suffering!

If you think taking a 30% cut to enrich a billionaire isn’t enshitifaction then I don’t know what to tell you buddy.

You think Steam isn’t a monopoly?

The fact that they take a 30% cut and it’s used to enrich a billionaire is very much anti consumer.

Doesn’t matter the size of the studio, in the end they have people to pay and Steam is asking them to take a gamble in the hope that they’ll make enough to compensate the money they spent. We’ve seen but studios crash and burn, hell Sony wasted home many millions on that game that was online for a couple of days? I’m sure they would have been happy to have gotten a cheque instead of nothing!

You wouldn’t complain if it was only available on Steam so fuck off

No, you see it’s different because Steam is love and Gabe is perfection, you know?

Oh no, we don’t complain about Steam exclusivity, monopolies are ok as long as they’re the monopolies that we want, ok? What happens when Valve turns to shit and we made sure there’s no viable alternative? That will never happen! Are you kidding?

People who hate on Steam alternatives want a monopoly