Honestly, I won’t bother. I only tried a few Switch games on emulator out of curiosity, and never played long. They don’t make anything interesting enough for me to want. I don’t get why people feel the need for Nintendo.
The mainline Zelda games were fantastic emulated, beautiful with graphics mods and at 1440p/60-120FPS! I also really enjoyed Link’s Awakening. I played Monster Hunter Rise on my regular switch for like 140 hours, but I wish I had waited for the computer version.
I’m definitely passing on Switch 2. I only ever played my Switch docked and always wished I was just playing it in the computer instead.
I am not in the market for a console (my last one was the Sega Mega Drive which was abandoned after we got a Pentium 1 PC and dialup), but I got to say, I love Nintendo’s pricing policy.
It’s almost as if they are taking the piss and want to see to what extent their fans are gluttons for punishment.
One possible complicating factor for those games? While they’re physical releases, they use Nintendo’s new Game-Key Card format, which attempts to split the difference between true physical copies of a game and download codes. Each cartridge includes a key for the game, but no actual game content—the game itself is downloaded to your system at first launch. But despite holding no game content, the key card must be inserted each time you launch the game, just like any other physical cartridge.
This is full on corporate regressiveness.
Nintendo will also use some Switch 2 Edition upgrades as a carrot to entice people to the more expensive $50-per-year tier of the Nintendo Switch Online service. The company has already announced that the upgrade packs for Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom will be offered for free to Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion Pack subscribers. The list of extra benefits for that service now includes additional emulated consoles (Game Boy, Game Boy Advance, Nintendo 64, and now Gamecube) and paid DLC for both Animal Crossing: New Horizons and Mario Kart 8.
Wait so you have to subscribe to get access to emulators (which are all open source I am assuming)? And you can’t just buy a retro game (ala GOG) and play it to your heart’s content? You need a sub to Nintendo online?
Their emulators have always been proprietary. The waters were a
little muddied by the NES/SNES Classic consoles using a Linux OS but the emulators were their own code.
Their FOSS code is made available when required and is published here:
Oh wow, that cartridge thing is actually just the worst of both worlds. I’m similar to you, my last console was a Mega Drive but I did get a Switch for my wife and played a couple of games on it which was fun. Not really keen on giving Nintendo more money though.
I think it kills game leaks before the street date. Even if the data isn’t in the cartridge (which is stupid), you would still be able to sell the cartage assuming the online service is still active.
Sucks for game preservation though. I’m personally hoping there’s some flaw in the gen 1 hardware that can be exploited for archive purchases.
It probably will. Given the modest spec bump and the high even for Nintendo hostility to switch emulation, it’s probably trivial to support switch 2 as well.
Aren’t consoles and their new game always ridiculously expensive on launch? I know Nintendo stuff often doesn’t drop in price that much but I’d be surprised if they stay this expensive for long. Plenty of other games to play in the meantime!
These links take you to a price tracker with a chart showing historical prices. The RRP of each of these has been static, and discounts are short and infrequent.
In a break from form Nintendo hasn’t released a budget “Selects” label for older titles this generation.
Fair point, but I still can’t imagine they’ll be double that price for long. The only GBP price I’ve seen for a Switch 2 game is the MKW bundle which is only £30 more than the console on its own.
The only game I want to play is that new Donkey Kong game. Paying €520 for playing just one game is ridiculous. I’m gonna wait till Nintendo releases more games. I’m not gonna spend €450 for it to collect dust like my PS5.
I love having my decision not to buy a Nintendo Switch and stick to PC games validated.
Feel bad for all the Nintendo fans though, I get how you can fall in love with a franchise they make and want their stuff only to have “except it costs a ton” stuck on, so you’ll have to skip for financial reasons and feel unhappy. It’s a lot harder to abstain from something you actually care about and want, than something you are maybe mildly interested in.
There’s a hundred different versions of amazing Mario and Zelda games that you can play already with emulators and on an old switch/computer/steamdeck. Wait till the new one is emulated, don’t enable Nintendo to do this shit.
Yes, and I’ve played them all multiple times. I was referring to NEW Marios and Zeldas. Metroid, too, but Prime 4 will at least be on Switch 1 and who knows when or if the next one will happen.
There are also plenty of decent Zelda-likes out there from small indie studios all the way to triple-a studios. Sony should really make one of their own looking at how well the managed to but pretty much everything Nintendo all at once to Astro bot.
It’s most difficult for me since I want to play metroid prime 4, especially after hearing the music. But I don’t want to pay 90 euro for base game. That’s incredibly ridiculous
This is an unpopular opinion, but y’all are forgetting about inflation. $60 in 2017 is $78 in 2025. $300 in 2017 is $390 today.
My ex always mocked me for the prices of Nintendo switch games. She even got me into playing games on my PC. But except for trackmania, I always gravitate back to the Switch. And I’m definitely in a priveleged place so take this with a grain of salt, but I’m buying the Switch 2 pretty much no matter what. To me it’s worth the cost.
General inflation doesn’t quite translate directly in all cases and is just a reference. In video games, costs have increased, but revenues have increased primarily through micro transactions and a growing market/sales. There’s virtually no marginal cost to produce additional units with software, so the revenues become a balance of price, demand, and supply (for hardware). They are expecting that the price increase won’t result in a significant drop in demand so that revenue increases. If they’re wrong, this will be a huge business mistake. If enough people purchase anyway, like you, then they’ll increase revenues and this will be considered a great business decision
Yeah, I have rejected increased cost games for this very reason. But Nintendo is one of the few companies I believe would do it to cover their costs instead of just preying upon general apathy towards inflation since covid to jack up profit. They are too rich for my blood at the time, but if I had the income to splurge this would be one of a vanishingly small number of places I would be willing to put up with it.
After coming off the incredibly successful Switch generation and Mario Kart 8 being essentially a decade old game that’s sold over 70 million copies, I just don’t believe that this is a decision driven by absolute necessity. I’d have begrudgingly accepted the standard PS5 prices of $70 games and $10 upgrades which I already thought were usually overpriced, but raising another $10 seems ridiculous. I’m thinking I’ll pass at least for a few years
Yes, inflation happened, and purchasing power has not grown or stayed the same with it. People can’t afford as much, so rising prices on entertainment are going to sting even more.
The reason the switch 1 was emulated so fast was a hardware vulnerability on nvidia’s part. Presumably we won’t see that again.
Also: While switch games DO run better on a steam deck, they don’t run great. And I think estimates put the switch 2 at closer to a PS4 than PS3 in terms of power? But even PS3/360 games don’t run gerat on a Steam Deck.
Not to mention nintendo’s lawyers putting the fear of mario into the emulation community.
So in a few years? I could see MAYBE some proof of concepts. But I doubt we’ll actually be able to properly emulate switch 2 games until at least 2030.
But besides that; are there any good PC kart racers?
(Emphasis on “good”, because I already know about Super Tux Kart, used to play it a lot more than 10 years ago, but today it feels very… Clunky and dated).
Am I the only one who doesn’t care about this? We’ll wait for the 33% nintendo sales and fill the rest of the year with 3rd party 80% sales like always
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Always loved Nintendo, but this will be a hard pass from me.
Nope. That’ll be a pass from me Nintendo.
Oh you’re going to subscribe to Nintendo Pass for $12.99 a month?
I’ll wait for an emulator
Honestly, I won’t bother. I only tried a few Switch games on emulator out of curiosity, and never played long. They don’t make anything interesting enough for me to want. I don’t get why people feel the need for Nintendo.
The mainline Zelda games were fantastic emulated, beautiful with graphics mods and at 1440p/60-120FPS! I also really enjoyed Link’s Awakening. I played Monster Hunter Rise on my regular switch for like 140 hours, but I wish I had waited for the computer version.
I’m definitely passing on Switch 2. I only ever played my Switch docked and always wished I was just playing it in the computer instead.
I am not in the market for a console (my last one was the Sega Mega Drive which was abandoned after we got a Pentium 1 PC and dialup), but I got to say, I love Nintendo’s pricing policy.
It’s almost as if they are taking the piss and want to see to what extent their fans are gluttons for punishment.
This is full on corporate regressiveness.
Wait so you have to subscribe to get access to emulators (which are all open source I am assuming)? And you can’t just buy a retro game (ala GOG) and play it to your heart’s content? You need a sub to Nintendo online?
Their emulators have always been proprietary. The waters were a little muddied by the NES/SNES Classic consoles using a Linux OS but the emulators were their own code.
Their FOSS code is made available when required and is published here:
https://support.nintendo.com/jp/oss/index.html
I see. I am surprised they didn’t simply take existing open source code and go with that.
Oh wow, that cartridge thing is actually just the worst of both worlds. I’m similar to you, my last console was a Mega Drive but I did get a Switch for my wife and played a couple of games on it which was fun. Not really keen on giving Nintendo more money though.
So does this kill used game sales?
I am assuming you can re-sell the “Game Key”.
I think it kills game leaks before the street date. Even if the data isn’t in the cartridge (which is stupid), you would still be able to sell the cartage assuming the online service is still active.
Sucks for game preservation though. I’m personally hoping there’s some flaw in the gen 1 hardware that can be exploited for archive purchases.
(edit: fixed autocorrect)
So when Nintendo servers shut down, that’s it.
Ubisoft’s The Crew 3: Super Mario Horizon
I pray it faces record-breaking piracy.
It probably will. Given the modest spec bump and the high even for Nintendo hostility to switch emulation, it’s probably trivial to support switch 2 as well.
Aren’t consoles and their new game always ridiculously expensive on launch? I know Nintendo stuff often doesn’t drop in price that much but I’d be surprised if they stay this expensive for long. Plenty of other games to play in the meantime!
It will only stay as high as the market and customers allow it
If it sells out, expect a price drop in a few years
If it fails to meet Nintendo’s expectations (3DS at launch) expect a price drop a few weeks or months (3DS at launch)
Switch sold out in 2017, and now the same basic Neon model is selling for the same price in 2025.
Maybe I should have been more specific…i meant mid to end of life. I totally figured forgot the switch lasted a fucking decade
These are the top 5 sellers on Switch:
These links take you to a price tracker with a chart showing historical prices. The RRP of each of these has been static, and discounts are short and infrequent.
In a break from form Nintendo hasn’t released a budget “Selects” label for older titles this generation.
Fair point, but I still can’t imagine they’ll be double that price for long. The only GBP price I’ve seen for a Switch 2 game is the MKW bundle which is only £30 more than the console on its own.
The only game I want to play is that new Donkey Kong game. Paying €520 for playing just one game is ridiculous. I’m gonna wait till Nintendo releases more games. I’m not gonna spend €450 for it to collect dust like my PS5.
I love having my decision not to buy a Nintendo Switch and stick to PC games validated.
Feel bad for all the Nintendo fans though, I get how you can fall in love with a franchise they make and want their stuff only to have “except it costs a ton” stuck on, so you’ll have to skip for financial reasons and feel unhappy. It’s a lot harder to abstain from something you actually care about and want, than something you are maybe mildly interested in.
No Zelda or Mario will hurt. But Nintendo’s decided I’m just too poor to be worthy of playing their games any more.
There’s a hundred different versions of amazing Mario and Zelda games that you can play already with emulators and on an old switch/computer/steamdeck. Wait till the new one is emulated, don’t enable Nintendo to do this shit.
Yes, and I’ve played them all multiple times. I was referring to NEW Marios and Zeldas. Metroid, too, but Prime 4 will at least be on Switch 1 and who knows when or if the next one will happen.
Try some ROM hacks. Super Mario Logic is pretty sweet
There are also plenty of decent Zelda-likes out there from small indie studios all the way to triple-a studios. Sony should really make one of their own looking at how well the managed to but pretty much everything Nintendo all at once to Astro bot.
Seriously. It’s tried and true.
It’s most difficult for me since I want to play metroid prime 4, especially after hearing the music. But I don’t want to pay 90 euro for base game. That’s incredibly ridiculous
I’m just going to get the Switch version and be perfectly happy with the visuals being slightly less good and using gyro joycon aim over joycon mouse.
Some of us will probably even get to play it early judging by the past several first-party Nintendo games.
Hah. Oh hey… Look, it’s in 4K after all!
And 60fps! Well, not for me, I’ll be playing on original Switch hardware.
I hope they still have tank controls, and designed the game with those in mind. I’ve been playing the Prime games like that for so long.
Failing that, at least a twin stick control scheme would be nice.
This is an unpopular opinion, but y’all are forgetting about inflation. $60 in 2017 is $78 in 2025. $300 in 2017 is $390 today.
My ex always mocked me for the prices of Nintendo switch games. She even got me into playing games on my PC. But except for trackmania, I always gravitate back to the Switch. And I’m definitely in a priveleged place so take this with a grain of salt, but I’m buying the Switch 2 pretty much no matter what. To me it’s worth the cost.
General inflation doesn’t quite translate directly in all cases and is just a reference. In video games, costs have increased, but revenues have increased primarily through micro transactions and a growing market/sales. There’s virtually no marginal cost to produce additional units with software, so the revenues become a balance of price, demand, and supply (for hardware). They are expecting that the price increase won’t result in a significant drop in demand so that revenue increases. If they’re wrong, this will be a huge business mistake. If enough people purchase anyway, like you, then they’ll increase revenues and this will be considered a great business decision
Yeah, I have rejected increased cost games for this very reason. But Nintendo is one of the few companies I believe would do it to cover their costs instead of just preying upon general apathy towards inflation since covid to jack up profit. They are too rich for my blood at the time, but if I had the income to splurge this would be one of a vanishingly small number of places I would be willing to put up with it.
After coming off the incredibly successful Switch generation and Mario Kart 8 being essentially a decade old game that’s sold over 70 million copies, I just don’t believe that this is a decision driven by absolute necessity. I’d have begrudgingly accepted the standard PS5 prices of $70 games and $10 upgrades which I already thought were usually overpriced, but raising another $10 seems ridiculous. I’m thinking I’ll pass at least for a few years
Yes, inflation happened, and purchasing power has not grown or stayed the same with it. People can’t afford as much, so rising prices on entertainment are going to sting even more.
Also, even disregarding the inflation argument, video gaming is still one of the cheapest per hour hobbies.
Tell that to the people making the same amount of money in 2025 that they were in 2017.
Its cool, your choice, you spend your money as you see fit.
I personally would never spend 60 usd on a game in 2017 and will never spend 80 usd in 2025. Its just too much.
I look forward to playing these for free in a year or two when an emulator that works on the Steam Deck is released.
4 real when Zelda was released on the switch is ran at like 1080p 30 fps. The emulator version was 4k @ 60 fps…
The reason the switch 1 was emulated so fast was a hardware vulnerability on nvidia’s part. Presumably we won’t see that again.
Also: While switch games DO run better on a steam deck, they don’t run great. And I think estimates put the switch 2 at closer to a PS4 than PS3 in terms of power? But even PS3/360 games don’t run gerat on a Steam Deck.
Not to mention nintendo’s lawyers putting the fear of mario into the emulation community.
So in a few years? I could see MAYBE some proof of concepts. But I doubt we’ll actually be able to properly emulate switch 2 games until at least 2030.
Well, then I look forward to playing games for this retro console for free in six years when an emulator drops for the Steam Deck 2.
Can’t wait to wait 2 years and then pirate it.
But besides that; are there any good PC kart racers?
(Emphasis on “good”, because I already know about Super Tux Kart, used to play it a lot more than 10 years ago, but today it feels very… Clunky and dated).
Sonic and Sega All Stars Transformed is top
super tux cart on linux is free and open source
Sonic Racing Transformed still the best
You probably want a dedicated game, but I have a lot of fun with Dragon Kart in Yakuza: Like a Dragon.
I hear very good things about Sonic All-Stars Racing Transformed, and there’s a new one coming.
Hmm… I’ve heard a few things about Sonic All-Stars too. Guess I should give it a shot.
Would be cool if Crash Nitro Kart isn’t still a PlayStation exclusive…
Wut OoO really? (edit) Ok I found it Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds from Sonic Team! I’m super hyped
Am I the only one who doesn’t care about this? We’ll wait for the 33% nintendo sales and fill the rest of the year with 3rd party 80% sales like always
Or get it second hand for cheap lol, it’s not a big deal to me at least.
Canadian here: What’s the difference? /s
For you it’ll be $120 Wilfrid Laurier bucks…
SteamDeck it is.