I came to PS through YouTube shorts and his streams were cut to ribbons and repatched into something resembling a zeitgeist-appealing view.
Then I watched a couple of his long form videos and was like … eh. If anything it taught me more about the danger of using shorts as an onboard to any big vtuber. Much like movie trailers and their movies, they tend to overpromise and underdeliver.
This became undeniably apparent when YouTube started shoving Jordan Petersen into my feed. Much like the thousand monkeys at their typewriters, you can take the words of anyone who talks at length almost daily on a subject and edit them into something that sounds reasonable and appealing.
I already knew that JP was a right wing rhetoric Markov chain posing as an expert/pundit before YT started promoting him, but it really did cement the point.
Yeah, for real. YouTube is essentially placing infinite bets that it can drive you into the rabbit hole. Watched a short of Dillahunty give Peterson a verbal wedgy? You must like big words, so here’s more Peterson! Watched a short of Joey Swoll telling people to be polite, because it rolled on automatically? Here’s an Andrew Tate wannabe with shrivelled nuts to subtly criticise you about your dad bod.
Obsession and radicalisation are one and the same to the algorithm, and both turn a targeted individual into a money printer. And fuck the consequences right? Because Google got theirs.
It’s often not the speaker doing the editing, there are thousands of channels built around creating and releasing these cast-a-wide-net shorts to subtly drive you towards their goal of obsessively watching right wing vtubers saying things that compel you to be a selfish narcissist.
Omg… this comment… this comment right here 👆. This is what I needed to see because I relate so strongly to it. F’kn guy sucks! (By guy sucks, I mean coworker of my nightmares that leans on me like a cancer). But my god, I’m so happy for him.
It’s one possible solution for one of the problems under the same umbrella. If you can’t or don’t want to run the servers for your online game (eg: Echo VR), just open source the server’s code and let the community keep the game running.
But even then it’s astronomically unlikely to be retroactively enforced. Old games will be grandfathered in and it would apply only to future game releases.
I mean, he’s said before that shitty code doesn’t make for a good or bad game. He gave examples of lots of successful games that have “bad” code and that it doesn’t matter and people should just make games.
I kinda hate the guy so it’s hard for me to keep the tone neutral but I’ll try my best.
Long story short: He’s a popular streamer that had a few controversies that caused many people labelled him as arrogant or egotistical.
The latest one is his take on the “stop killing games” initiative that he was against. He had a video a few months ago were he misrepresentated the movement and spread misinformation (whether or not this was intentional or misinformed is up for debate) and caused a significant drop in the momentum of the movement, refusing to accept any criticism and doubling down on things. That was until recently were the initiative was in the last month and a half before the big deadline at only around 50% of the required signatures, but then huge momentum sprung up with a lot of people marking him as the “villain” of the movement and because of his controversy before it wasn’t long before word spread.
This has obviously led to harassment of the guy(which I feel is too far personally) which he responded to by tripling down on his opinion causing further being labelled as the villain. Eventually the momentum carried it over the finish and people are happy that he didn’t get his way.
whether or not this was intentional or misinformed is up for debate
It’s not, in his response to the initial controversy he cut out the part of Ross’ video that directly contradicted his misrepresentation, he’s a lying piece of shit.
My only real experience with this guy was that he helped fund a mario 64 romhacking competition that I entered. So I got some money from him because of it. Funny how that works out.
But in short, PirateSoftware had a fall from grace for narcissism and with his previous opposition to the petition, became a “villain” to unite against.
It actually is the most hilarious of ironies that despite what very real harm Thor might have inflicted upon the early stages of the movement through misinformation/mischaracterization; The fact is, I don’t think this movement would have come near to exploding the way that it has recently if not for the perfect Rube Goldberg machine of drama surrounding this man in the past 6 months.
Seriously. He could not have Barbara Streisand effected the “Stop Killing Games” movement harder if he tried. It really is such poetic justice. It’s a shame that I don’t live in the EU or I would gladly sign the initiate myself. Here’s to hoping that another EU regulation can have sweeping effects for the US. As a reluctant and very jaded US citizen myself, I harbor no illusions about any real and meaningful consumer protection regulations to ever make it over here. Mega-corpos have simply spent far too much money buying out every level of government, legislature, and regulatory bodies that exist.
Europe really is like a strange beacon of hope for US consumers, as odd as that sounds. Fight the good fight for us as well, brothers.
I can believe this, if he wasn’t such a narcissist or such a lying douche bag who always has to be right and has something to say about absolutely everything while having a story to go with it…
Then he would be a pretty cool guy…
Some of his advice isn’t actually bad though… I watched him for a bit but the more you watch him the more you see him for who he is…
No one’s silencing him, though right? They’re just reacting to what he said, which is consequence. Is this somehow challenging his right to make his voice heard?
I’m not saying you should hate him. And he absolutely have the right to his own opinion. But what he did is the equivalent of reading a news title, and then go trash talk it in the comments about how awful it is, when the article wasn’t about what you were mad about, at all.
Basically this;
Title: Denmark shuts down 60% of their wind-power
Article: Denmark shuts down 60% of their wind-power, pending an investigation as 1 million birds have died in them over the past 3 months, they are currently assessing the situation and investigating why this change in bird migration route has occurred and how to prevent more deaths. According to local expert, they will use the time to perform maintenance and test various methods of scaring birds away.
PirateSoftware: Denmark are the fucking worst, they shut down tons of wind farms, they are anti renewable, they don’t want wind farms, they realized that they can get cheaper gas, if they import more, and the difference will offset the cost of running and maintaining these wind farms. Where are they getting this gas? Probably Norway, possibly even Russia dude! They can eat my ass, the entire thing. Dried shit in my ass hairs and all.
He’ll gladly tell you about how he was hacker/dev whizkid at Blizzard for 7 years. Of course, he’ll leave out the fact that he was only a QA tester and a web security drone who got the job because his father is a big wig there.
I blocked this guy from my YouTube suggestions last year after getting heaps of his videos recommended to me, and in every one he comes across as an insufferable know-it-all.
And if you know anything about what he’s talking about, you quickly realize that in fact he does not know it all.
Can I be a big time Twitch celebrity too if I doodle a series of completely nondescriptive boxes and link them with little lines in MS Paint as I talk?
He has literally said that the MS Paint doodles aren’t meant to be super descriptive or helpful. He started doing it in his meetings at Blizzard, because he found that any visual aid was good at keeping executives’ attention. Whenever he had to do a presentation, he’d use MS Paint every few minutes to keep them focused.
And now he does the same with his viewers. He busts out MS Paint every few minutes, just to refocus the viewers and keep them engaged. It’s not to help with whatever he’s describing; it’s just to keep the viewers engaged, so he keeps making money off of them.
To his credit, at least he admits this. It’s not like he’s hiding his strategy. He just does whatever will push him to the top of the algorithms and keep viewers engaged.
It’s playing the game by the rules as written. If the Game Master is upset at a player for using their own rules against them, that’s the GM’s fault. I can’t begrudge a guy manipulating a mega corporation (in this case, manipulating Google/YouTube’s algorithms) for profit. He needs viewer retention to stay at the top of the algorithm, so that’s what he’s doing.
I think you’re confusing ‘excuse’ for ‘reason’ here. no one is excusing his behavior, just pointing out that the reason he does it is because the system allows for this kind of behavior. we can see through the veil, but others are being hooked by it because it’s designed to keep you hooked.
it’s the same with other charismatic always online personalities. they’re really good at spinning their bs and people keep eating it up because it sounds good.
The viewers aren’t the game masters, though. I honestly wouldn’t want to participate in a game where I have to retain the attention of people without giving them anything of value. I think at some point those who participate also need to take some responsibility.
It’s possible it’s not an excuse. I’m in software eng. Doodles and on the fly flow charts are made all the time. It’s much easier to follow a complex topic if you have something to point to. Especially when trying to tie together concepts, like interplay between services, timing, DB, APIs, etc.
Can I be a big time Twitch celebrity too if I doodle a series of completely nondescriptive boxes and link them with little lines in MS Paint as I talk?
I don’t know man, I thought he was insufferable then, and after watching this rundown I stand by original opinion of him being an insufferable little gremlin.
Peace of life advice, don’t let other people tell you how to think, form your own opinions based on the things you value and experience.
Thor exist, and so do a lot of people that are a lot worse. He gets at more hate than he deserve when people like Jordan Peterson exist.
Also, you don’t have to watch his videos. You can just ignore him and move on with your life. There are better things to do with your time than to hate someone.
Apology exempted. Just please considered that the person you are correcting may not know English as their first language or by be struggling with dyslexia or some other issue you may know nothing about
That’s totally fair. I’m not a native English speaker myself, but some of the English I have learned has been through corrections from friendly souls around the internet so I wanted to pay it forward. I’m not judging or attacking you as I don’t expect anyone to be perfect in any language. Not even their own. Just wanted to help out 🤗
Agree, the few videos of his that I appreciated were so rare and in every one he reminds me of that guy who is a pain to actually work with and any way other than their way is completely incorrect to them.
There are people with imposter syndrome, who you wish would say more and then there are people with overinflated self confidence, who just won’t shut up.
I wrote him off as a prick after he practically had a narcissistic meltdown during a stream with a psychiatrist when he was told that he comes off as an arrogant pedant and needs to learn to admit when he’s wrong.
of course there is no way to definitely prove that, which was probably an intentional tactic, but certain puzzles he “solved” in “hours” took a whole community weeks to figure out (brute force was the only way) and there’s no way he’s just happened to guess the right answer
It’s funny because it’s not like he’s speed running or anything, he could literally just tell chat he was cheating because the puzzle was too hard and nobody would care.
But he has to keep up his insufferable smarter than everyone image by “solving” puzzles fast.
For those who don’t know, this streamer is only tangentially related to the stop killing games petition because he made a comment about it being BS because he misinterpreted what it was supposed to do. He used his misinterpretation to spread false information about this petition leading to it not getting the support it initially should have.
When the guy behind the petition made a statement saying he didn’t think the petition was going to get enough signatures in part because of the misinformation being spread about it, PirateSoftware doubled down on his false claims and all of this lead to people doing the research they should have done in the first place and deciding to support the petition after all.
What we should probably be learning from this is that we should do our own research, and find out things instead of taking the word of random people online.
Edit: electric has brought to my attention that it wasn’t just one clip, but in fact a whole video dedicated to spreading misinformation that was made by Thor from PirateSoftware. Just wanted to be clear about that.
I think a lot of people didn’t hear about this guy until about 2 days ago. Personally I didn’t even know about this petition.
I knew about the lawsuit against The Crew, but I didn’t know anything about any more general petition, so I think the greater problem was simply a lack of advertising.
A comment? Am I misreading your comment or is this just ignorance of the situation? Because PirateSoftware made a whole ass video on the subject way back (the one allegedly rife with misinformation). I remember it on my feed when the campaign was getting traction, but didn’t watch it because my view of him was souring.
From what clips I’ve seen*, PirateSoftware misinterprets the majority of what he addressed. Either maliciously or unknowingly, which is why he was blamed for tanking momentum since that video did get a ton of views (before people wised up to him being a total cunt).
*Yes I know the irony of what I just said there after reading your last paragraph. I believe these terminally online streamers because I would not put it past PirateSoftware to be this awful after watching his videos for a small period and then the subsequent controversies coming out.
He may well have done but the only clip I have seen is the one where someone asks about it while he’s streaming games and he responded to that person with misinformation.
Ah. Makes sense. I caught a stream once and he pretty much just did discussions with the chat. A lot of his videos were just cuts from his streams when someone asked.
Enable offline mode. That’s the very least they can do. These game, like how EA famously claim that it’s not possible for SimCity to run in offline mode and then soon release an offline mode, should be playable offline.
Enable private server/p2p multiplayer. This would make sure playing with friends is still possible after the server went down.
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I’m glad that someone I’ve personally disliked for various reasons is finally having a lot of people see them for who they really are.
Man this dude is a total nepobaby tool.
I came to PS through YouTube shorts and his streams were cut to ribbons and repatched into something resembling a zeitgeist-appealing view.
Then I watched a couple of his long form videos and was like … eh. If anything it taught me more about the danger of using shorts as an onboard to any big vtuber. Much like movie trailers and their movies, they tend to overpromise and underdeliver.
This became undeniably apparent when YouTube started shoving Jordan Petersen into my feed. Much like the thousand monkeys at their typewriters, you can take the words of anyone who talks at length almost daily on a subject and edit them into something that sounds reasonable and appealing.
I already knew that JP was a right wing rhetoric Markov chain posing as an expert/pundit before YT started promoting him, but it really did cement the point.
Any male dominated channel that ever “gives advice” gets shunted into that pipeline by algo pretty consistently.
I like stand up comedy and it’s a full time job keeping Rogan out of my suggestions.
Yeah, for real. YouTube is essentially placing infinite bets that it can drive you into the rabbit hole. Watched a short of Dillahunty give Peterson a verbal wedgy? You must like big words, so here’s more Peterson! Watched a short of Joey Swoll telling people to be polite, because it rolled on automatically? Here’s an Andrew Tate wannabe with shrivelled nuts to subtly criticise you about your dad bod.
Obsession and radicalisation are one and the same to the algorithm, and both turn a targeted individual into a money printer. And fuck the consequences right? Because Google got theirs.
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It’s often not the speaker doing the editing, there are thousands of channels built around creating and releasing these cast-a-wide-net shorts to subtly drive you towards their goal of obsessively watching right wing vtubers saying things that compel you to be a selfish narcissist.
Absolutely. For example:
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Omg… this comment… this comment right here 👆. This is what I needed to see because I relate so strongly to it. F’kn guy sucks! (By guy sucks, I mean coworker of my nightmares that leans on me like a cancer). But my god, I’m so happy for him.
I’m not relaxing unil it’s 1.5 million.
In Ross’ video, IIRC, he said 110% was good, 120% was pretty safe, and 140% was very safe.
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Absolute fucking clown. He’s just scared of open sourcing old games because everyone will see how shitty his code is…
That’s completely misguided, because people can see his code anyway (in his streams), and also because he will never finish or release his game
Probably little incentive to do so given how much money they’re making from Twitch, YouTube, etc.
But that’s not even what Stop Killing Games is about…
It’s one possible solution for one of the problems under the same umbrella. If you can’t or don’t want to run the servers for your online game (eg: Echo VR), just open source the server’s code and let the community keep the game running.
You don’t need to open source the code to release the server binaries.
But even then it’s astronomically unlikely to be retroactively enforced. Old games will be grandfathered in and it would apply only to future game releases.
It’s not unlikely, it’s literally impossible.
I mean, he’s said before that shitty code doesn’t make for a good or bad game. He gave examples of lots of successful games that have “bad” code and that it doesn’t matter and people should just make games.
Not sure if it’s still the case, but the code of balatro was a single giant file with if cases for every card
Bad code can make great games. But it will also make them very hard to maintain
Undertale also has really bad code and it’s a great game
It can alsoake fes that perform way worse than they have anything to. See yandere simulator for example
Who is this, and why is she so sad?
This dudes son.
I kinda hate the guy so it’s hard for me to keep the tone neutral but I’ll try my best.
Long story short: He’s a popular streamer that had a few controversies that caused many people labelled him as arrogant or egotistical.
The latest one is his take on the “stop killing games” initiative that he was against. He had a video a few months ago were he misrepresentated the movement and spread misinformation (whether or not this was intentional or misinformed is up for debate) and caused a significant drop in the momentum of the movement, refusing to accept any criticism and doubling down on things. That was until recently were the initiative was in the last month and a half before the big deadline at only around 50% of the required signatures, but then huge momentum sprung up with a lot of people marking him as the “villain” of the movement and because of his controversy before it wasn’t long before word spread.
This has obviously led to harassment of the guy(which I feel is too far personally) which he responded to by tripling down on his opinion causing further being labelled as the villain. Eventually the momentum carried it over the finish and people are happy that he didn’t get his way.
It’s not, in his response to the initial controversy he cut out the part of Ross’ video that directly contradicted his misrepresentation, he’s a lying piece of shit.
Misgendering people is not funny.
According to 30 rock it is.
The difference is that 30 Rock is not doing it to be mean spirited.
I think the root comment is just memeing? But I see your point, it’s not funny. (Or it shouldn’t be.)
What does “just memeing” mean here?
Oh? You’re approaching me?
They memed the joke from the show, while i just copied the part from jojo.
I wanted to lure you into revealing your stand.
You did not get the 30 Rock quote I see.
No, you don’t understand, misgendering is fine when its someone you don’t like, just like how body shaming is great when its a man.
/s
Looking at the upvote/ downvote ratio you might be right
My only real experience with this guy was that he helped fund a mario 64 romhacking competition that I entered. So I got some money from him because of it. Funny how that works out.
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17 minutes.
But in short, PirateSoftware had a fall from grace for narcissism and with his previous opposition to the petition, became a “villain” to unite against.
Misinterpreted the article, made a video about it. Ignored his own comments calling him out on it.
Was overall an asshole “I know more than all of you” through, tone and everything.
Then doubled down.
Business as usual for Thor, sadly
It actually is the most hilarious of ironies that despite what very real harm Thor might have inflicted upon the early stages of the movement through misinformation/mischaracterization; The fact is, I don’t think this movement would have come near to exploding the way that it has recently if not for the perfect Rube Goldberg machine of drama surrounding this man in the past 6 months.
Seriously. He could not have Barbara Streisand effected the “Stop Killing Games” movement harder if he tried. It really is such poetic justice. It’s a shame that I don’t live in the EU or I would gladly sign the initiate myself. Here’s to hoping that another EU regulation can have sweeping effects for the US. As a reluctant and very jaded US citizen myself, I harbor no illusions about any real and meaningful consumer protection regulations to ever make it over here. Mega-corpos have simply spent far too much money buying out every level of government, legislature, and regulatory bodies that exist.
Europe really is like a strange beacon of hope for US consumers, as odd as that sounds. Fight the good fight for us as well, brothers.
I’m calling it now: Thor is going to eventually say that this was his plan all along.
A 5-D Chess move truly beyond comprehension by the mortal mind.
I can believe this, if he wasn’t such a narcissist or such a lying douche bag who always has to be right and has something to say about absolutely everything while having a story to go with it…
Then he would be a pretty cool guy…
Some of his advice isn’t actually bad though… I watched him for a bit but the more you watch him the more you see him for who he is…
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If you’re interested in the details: https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo?t=1117
No one’s silencing him, though right? They’re just reacting to what he said, which is consequence. Is this somehow challenging his right to make his voice heard?
Lying and being rude to someone for no reason is not making your voice heard
I’m not saying you should hate him. And he absolutely have the right to his own opinion. But what he did is the equivalent of reading a news title, and then go trash talk it in the comments about how awful it is, when the article wasn’t about what you were mad about, at all.
Basically this;
Title: Denmark shuts down 60% of their wind-power
Article: Denmark shuts down 60% of their wind-power, pending an investigation as 1 million birds have died in them over the past 3 months, they are currently assessing the situation and investigating why this change in bird migration route has occurred and how to prevent more deaths. According to local expert, they will use the time to perform maintenance and test various methods of scaring birds away.
PirateSoftware: Denmark are the fucking worst, they shut down tons of wind farms, they are anti renewable, they don’t want wind farms, they realized that they can get cheaper gas, if they import more, and the difference will offset the cost of running and maintaining these wind farms. Where are they getting this gas? Probably Norway, possibly even Russia dude! They can eat my ass, the entire thing. Dried shit in my ass hairs and all.
Guys a fucking loser. Needs to get a real job.
He’s had quite a few “real jobs” lol
Don’t you know he worked for Blizzard /s
Ahh. Starting to see how that company fell to shit now 😂
He’ll gladly tell you about how he was hacker/dev whizkid at Blizzard for 7 years. Of course, he’ll leave out the fact that he was only a QA tester and a web security drone who got the job because his father is a big wig there.
I blocked this guy from my YouTube suggestions last year after getting heaps of his videos recommended to me, and in every one he comes across as an insufferable know-it-all.
And if you know anything about what he’s talking about, you quickly realize that in fact he does not know it all.
Can I be a big time Twitch celebrity too if I doodle a series of completely nondescriptive boxes and link them with little lines in MS Paint as I talk?
He has literally said that the MS Paint doodles aren’t meant to be super descriptive or helpful. He started doing it in his meetings at Blizzard, because he found that any visual aid was good at keeping executives’ attention. Whenever he had to do a presentation, he’d use MS Paint every few minutes to keep them focused.
And now he does the same with his viewers. He busts out MS Paint every few minutes, just to refocus the viewers and keep them engaged. It’s not to help with whatever he’s describing; it’s just to keep the viewers engaged, so he keeps making money off of them.
To his credit, at least he admits this. It’s not like he’s hiding his strategy. He just does whatever will push him to the top of the algorithms and keep viewers engaged.
To be fair, I do this at work and while I get funny looks I do get complicated ideas across better when I can provide visual aid.
Frankly I need to improve my MS Paint skills. I need to get my mouse handwriting up to at least 70% of the Khan Academy guy’s level.
Pretty sure he uses a wacom
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It’s playing the game by the rules as written. If the Game Master is upset at a player for using their own rules against them, that’s the GM’s fault. I can’t begrudge a guy manipulating a mega corporation (in this case, manipulating Google/YouTube’s algorithms) for profit. He needs viewer retention to stay at the top of the algorithm, so that’s what he’s doing.
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I think you’re confusing ‘excuse’ for ‘reason’ here. no one is excusing his behavior, just pointing out that the reason he does it is because the system allows for this kind of behavior. we can see through the veil, but others are being hooked by it because it’s designed to keep you hooked.
it’s the same with other charismatic always online personalities. they’re really good at spinning their bs and people keep eating it up because it sounds good.
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This is a long-winded way of saying “Don’t hate the player, hate the game.”
The viewers aren’t the game masters, though. I honestly wouldn’t want to participate in a game where I have to retain the attention of people without giving them anything of value. I think at some point those who participate also need to take some responsibility.
It’s possible it’s not an excuse. I’m in software eng. Doodles and on the fly flow charts are made all the time. It’s much easier to follow a complex topic if you have something to point to. Especially when trying to tie together concepts, like interplay between services, timing, DB, APIs, etc.
Definitely. Especially if you have large breasts.
If you think he is an insufferable know it, you have not met enough insufferable know it alls. He is look warm obnoxious at best.
I don’t know man, I thought he was insufferable then, and after watching this rundown I stand by original opinion of him being an insufferable little gremlin.
Peace of life advice, don’t let other people tell you how to think, form your own opinions based on the things you value and experience.
Thor exist, and so do a lot of people that are a lot worse. He gets at more hate than he deserve when people like Jordan Peterson exist.
Also, you don’t have to watch his videos. You can just ignore him and move on with your life. There are better things to do with your time than to hate someone.
There’s a beautiful sentence at the end of every Rare Earth video: Don’t let other people think for you, they can barely think for themselves.
There is some really truth to that.
Oh wow you know so much about this topic and everything else!
All I am saying is that i have met truly insufferable know it alls and he is not one.
Oh the irony lmao
I am not sure you know meaning of irony
*lukewarm.
Sorry, I’m not in this fight, but my inner grammar-nazi just couldn’t help herself.
Apology exempted. Just please considered that the person you are correcting may not know English as their first language or by be struggling with dyslexia or some other issue you may know nothing about
That’s totally fair. I’m not a native English speaker myself, but some of the English I have learned has been through corrections from friendly souls around the internet so I wanted to pay it forward. I’m not judging or attacking you as I don’t expect anyone to be perfect in any language. Not even their own. Just wanted to help out 🤗
Agree, the few videos of his that I appreciated were so rare and in every one he reminds me of that guy who is a pain to actually work with and any way other than their way is completely incorrect to them.
There are people with imposter syndrome, who you wish would say more and then there are people with overinflated self confidence, who just won’t shut up.
I wrote him off as a prick after he practically had a narcissistic meltdown during a stream with a psychiatrist when he was told that he comes off as an arrogant pedant and needs to learn to admit when he’s wrong.
he also cheats in single player puzzle games
of course there is no way to definitely prove that, which was probably an intentional tactic, but certain puzzles he “solved” in “hours” took a whole community weeks to figure out (brute force was the only way) and there’s no way he’s just happened to guess the right answer
It’s funny because it’s not like he’s speed running or anything, he could literally just tell chat he was cheating because the puzzle was too hard and nobody would care.
But he has to keep up his insufferable smarter than everyone image by “solving” puzzles fast.
I’m not proud of it but I really enjoyed the mass dunking on this guy.
Be a little proud, as a treat. You deserve it.
I’ve never liked the guy, he’s always seemed so full of himself like he thinks he’s smarter than everyone and can never be wrong.
For those who don’t know, this streamer is only tangentially related to the stop killing games petition because he made a comment about it being BS because he misinterpreted what it was supposed to do. He used his misinterpretation to spread false information about this petition leading to it not getting the support it initially should have.
When the guy behind the petition made a statement saying he didn’t think the petition was going to get enough signatures in part because of the misinformation being spread about it, PirateSoftware doubled down on his false claims and all of this lead to people doing the research they should have done in the first place and deciding to support the petition after all.
What we should probably be learning from this is that we should do our own research, and find out things instead of taking the word of random people online.
Edit: electric has brought to my attention that it wasn’t just one clip, but in fact a whole video dedicated to spreading misinformation that was made by Thor from PirateSoftware. Just wanted to be clear about that.
I think a lot of people didn’t hear about this guy until about 2 days ago. Personally I didn’t even know about this petition.
I knew about the lawsuit against The Crew, but I didn’t know anything about any more general petition, so I think the greater problem was simply a lack of advertising.
A comment? Am I misreading your comment or is this just ignorance of the situation? Because PirateSoftware made a whole ass video on the subject way back (the one allegedly rife with misinformation). I remember it on my feed when the campaign was getting traction, but didn’t watch it because my view of him was souring.
From what clips I’ve seen*, PirateSoftware misinterprets the majority of what he addressed. Either maliciously or unknowingly, which is why he was blamed for tanking momentum since that video did get a ton of views (before people wised up to him being a total cunt).
*Yes I know the irony of what I just said there after reading your last paragraph. I believe these terminally online streamers because I would not put it past PirateSoftware to be this awful after watching his videos for a small period and then the subsequent controversies coming out.
He may well have done but the only clip I have seen is the one where someone asks about it while he’s streaming games and he responded to that person with misinformation.
“Not only I’m not gonna support it, I gonna actively tell people to not support it. Because this is stupid. This is shit. Eat my ass.”
— Thor “PirateSoftware” Hall, on the Stop Killing Games proposal.
Yes. That clip.
Ah. Makes sense. I caught a stream once and he pretty much just did discussions with the chat. A lot of his videos were just cuts from his streams when someone asked.
Multiple videos.
He made multiple videos.
What u attempt to accomplish? Maintaining games also takes time and effort and server costs and they likely kill them to save costs.
There is no way this petition is gonna do anything
Its okay to stop running the servers. All gamers want is to have the stuff it takes to continue to enjoy the game after the companies are done.
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then don’t make single player games (or sections of games) require a server.
When games put DRM in them that requires a server
And I buy that game
And then they take away that server
I want my money back
Or for them to latch the game so it works
It’s not fucking hard to figure out
At best we get fresh new EULA’s to click through on our way to play our game.
I’ve signed a lot of petitions over the years, and I’d sign this one too, but it’s pretty naive to think this will actually do anything useful.
This is not just a random petition, it has legal force to compel the EU to officially hear the issue.
you can’t sign away consumer rights in a EULA… they might try and out them in there, but if it were law then they wouldn’t be able to enforce it
It might get the EU to make a law.
Enable offline mode. That’s the very least they can do. These game, like how EA famously claim that it’s not possible for SimCity to run in offline mode and then soon release an offline mode, should be playable offline.
Enable private server/p2p multiplayer. This would make sure playing with friends is still possible after the server went down.