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What you’re after is a bit of socialism.

We don’t have to kill all the millionaires and billionaires, they are just required to contribute to the world more than they take, as long as they do that they can have their luxury yachts.

The problem is almost none of them actually do contribute anything to the world and most of the ones that do contribute things that the world doesn’t want. Elon Musk contributes a lot of electric cars to the world, which would be a good thing, it’s just a shame they’re all dangerous killing machines.


What is it with millionaires and yachts?

I hate boats, even on a calm day in a lake which is only about 2 m deep I’m constantly convinced the damn thing is going to sink.

Do people actually like being on boats, it’s basically like being in a cramped apartment that is really inconvenient to get to and from, that constantly experiences a never-ending earthquake, why is that anyone’s idea of a good time?

Also I really hope somebody has tested that submarine extensively.


But it’s also a handheld console so that doesn’t really track.

An entry level gaming PC doesn’t have to have a battery and it doesn’t have to have a screen which are big expenses. You can’t just take the price of the steam deck and multiply it because so much time has passed between the releases of the two products and they’re not equivalent anyway. It’s an apples to oranges comparison.


There are people online who are wrong. I can’t just ignore that, they must be told why they are wrong.

Seriously though it’s a good idea to correct people when they make stupid baseless claims because other people won’t necessarily have the technical understanding to judge whether their claims are based on reality or not.

Many of the people who are doing this are YouTube or Instagram personalities with lots of children following them, I like this product and want it to succeed, and I don’t want children to lose interest in the idea because their favourite idiot instagrammer reckons it’ll cost an absurd amount of money.

I’m utterly confused about why you are upset that people are doing that. There’s absolutely no need for you to engage in it.


Yeah which makes me think that it was six of one and half a dozen of the other.

Terrible marketing and fairly mediocre gameplay.

Although obviously I don’t know because like pretty much everyone else I never actually played it. And I like hero shooters and even played overwatch semi-professionally, so I would have been in the circles that would have heard about it, if Sony had bothered to tell anyone.


The other problem is that the tariffs could be totally different by the time it releases. I fully suspect that the tariffs are the reason that we haven’t got a price yet.

It would be funny if it is noticeably more expensive in the US though like with the Switch 2.


Personally I don’t think I would say that most people would consider a $1,000 PC to be entry level. To me entry level means something that a kid could save up their pocket money for in a reasonable amount of time maybe with a paper route to supplement. I’d say entry level ends at about $700 just to throw a number out there. For $1,000 you could get a PS5 and a PSVR2


For the same reason that people are interested in the steam machine. It’s nice to be able to just throw some money at people and get a complete product. I can see businesses getting these things if they need a moderately powerful GPU for business reasons. Unless valve go utterly mad on the pricing here, it’s going to be much better value for money than a Mac mini, and it’ll have better compatibility with existing software as well.


The steam frame controllers use AA batteries, the steam controller has a lithium ion internal battery.

Also it does have a USB port but the primary charging method is via the pogo pins. But obviously you might want to recharge from a wall outlet so they also include a USB port. But that’s obviously going to get used far less often than it would otherwise.


As you say valve are incentivised to do this because it will move more people over to Linux. I suspect that they want that more than they’re really bothered about hardware sales so while I don’t think it’ll be sold at a loss, because frankly that would be stupid even if they could afford to do it, but I don’t think it’ll be anywhere near as expensive as some people seem to be claiming.


I would be happy to wait and see but idiots online keep trying to insist it’ll be $2,000 even though the hardware isn’t close to worth that much. Some of these people are big influencers and really should know better.


I thought it was very funny that I only even heard about concord existing when it was announced the service was shutting down. I feel like they didn’t know advertising for it


My point is that no one really cares about the cameras because this is a VR headset, it isn’t trying to be everything to everyone. I also don’t really think anyone cares about apple’s “spatial computing” (AR), perhaps if they actually had more applications people would be interested, but they don’t.


Yeah I’m thinking that it’ll be around $500 to $600 for the base model and maybe $550 to $650 for the two terabyte model. After all its upgradable so there’s not really any point them trying to price gouge anyone on the storage.

The general consensus I’ve seen from people is that it will be sub 1K simply because they know it has to be in order to be profitable. The only people who think it’s going to be over 1k seem to be people who don’t actually know that it’s not really a super powerful system, they advertised it as being seven times more powerful than the steam deck, but the steam deck itself is not exactly a powerhouse in fact the switch 2 is more powerful.

You’re paying for the fact that it’s tiny, the fact that it’s not a window system, and for the convenience of just being able to throw some money at someone and have a fairly decent gaming system without having to mock about in the weeds, because a lot of people don’t like that aspect of PC building.


Really I don’t think so. I don’t know quite where you’re getting your prices from because I could definitely build assembly spec computer for under $700, especially if I was building in bulk which obviously Valve are.

I feel like they know that no one’s going to buy it at $1,000.


Yeah but he can’t possibly know that. Valve wouldn’t be drawn on the price so that’s not based on something they’ve said to him that’s just what he personally thinks.

I feel like Valve are more than smart enough to know that a $1,000 headset won’t sell. Especially in the US, internationally they might be able to get away with that price, but even then people are going to be comparing it to the index and asking why the index has been EOLed and replaced with a headset of the same price.


It’s a VR headset so no one really cares about the cameras. The only headset with cameras that are any good is on the Apple Pro which is ludicrously expensive. The quest 3s cameras are fine but you can’t really read a display while wearing it so they’re basically useless for AR stuff.


The Vision Pro isn’t available outside of North America, has barely no apps and doesn’t support gaming, so I don’t know how Apple expect this to become a major product for them.

The frame fixes basically all of those issues, much wider availability although still not global, supports games and it’s basically a PC so you can edit an Excel document in VR if for some reason that’s what you want to do, has controllers so you’re not relying on finger tracking exclusively, and actually has a decent store of content. Oh and the battery is both larger in capacity and more sensibly designed so that it’s actually part of the device rather than this weird dangly thing you always have to have.

The only downside is an inability to allow me to see my office at the same time. It’s not like the vision pro lets you actually keep the laptop display on anyway so being able to see it isn’t a huge advantage.

It would have been nice if it had colour pass through, but I also don’t really care that it’s not present.


Apparently OLED has issues with brightness. VR lenses tend to cut out an awful lot of light (I’ve seen a lot of unhelpful diagrams with lines on them that try to explain the problem) so you need a system that outputs a lot of light or you need to use much more expensive lenses.

My guess is valve had a price point and using the better lenses would significantly cut into that.

It’s worth pointing out that I’m pretty sure the PlayStation VR uses the same lenses. I’ve never had a problem with that so I doubt it’ll be a major issue.


Yeah I don’t get nauseous in VR I don’t know why some people do. The only thing I have noticed is that if there’s a lot of spinning around particularly in ultra wings I tend to fall over.

I actually find that things like the vignette that you get when moving in some VR games actually makes me feel uncomfortable so I always have to go into the settings and turn all that stuff off.


You could say that about any game. If you’re not interested in the game you’re not going to play it for a very long time but that’s not a failing of the concept.

Pavlov is a VR game that I’ve probably got hundreds of hours in. I’ve had four or five gaming sessions because you tend to get sucked in.


It will be interesting to see if Meta have any real response to this. They obviously never expected to have any competition so they got a scummy as possible with it. Now that they actually have competition they’re sort of stuck, their only real response is to become more consumer-friendly, which is basically impossible because of their corporate culture.


Apparently it’s likely smaller than the GameCube was which is pretty incredible.

I’m assuming that d brand are already working on a GameCube inspired skin for this.


Yeah there’s some complication with it where it’s not 100% supported, but I didn’t quite understand because he didn’t go into detail. I got the sense though that it’s a technicality and basically is fine, but officially it isn’t supported.


I’m reckoning about $1,280 all in for the controller, VR headset, and Steam Machine.

I can’t see it being much more than that because otherwise you would be better off just getting your own build and putting Linux on it.


As with most games I’m just not going to get it day one and wait for the reviews. It’s not like they’re going to run out of stock so there’s no harm in delaying things.

I want to see what they do with the RP side of things, as there are rumours of a proper RP mode, which would make online play actually bearable. But since it’s just rumours with no evidence, I’m going to wait.



I’ve always wondered why some people write 101 at the end of sentences. It seems to be something North Americans do, but I’ve never really understood what it’s supposed to indicate.


This should be some sort of award for getting a patent denied in Japan. They grant patents on vague ill defined concepts all the time, so if it’s been rejected it’s really been rejected.

Japan once granted a patent on the concept of “doing something while the game loads”, Which is why we had all those tips screens for years, they weren’t allowed to do anything interactive. I think this all came tumbling down when assassin’s creed allowed you to wander around a blank empty void during loading. Such innovation.


Does this mean that over half of the signatures were from people not living in the EU?


The Covenant might be religious fanatics but they’re actually capable of working with other religious fanatics, in mutual cooperation.

MAGAs are more like Species 8472, utterly hostile to anything that doesn’t conform to their very narrow and ill informed worldview, even to the point of being hostile to potential allies, thus alienating them.


Surely he knows that Fortnite is itself the clone. He has to know that they didn’t start the battle royale genre they just cutesy it up and monetize the hell out of it.

It was actually a good game when it was in beta and the building mechanics actually had some sort of point. Then they pivoted and went in the battle of royale genre and it became a microtransaction lootbox nightmare.


They’re really aren’t any other good game reviewers. They used to be Nerd Cubed but he doesn’t seem to do game reviews anymore. There’s Sid Alpha, but if he feels particularly frisky he’ll put out a whole two videos a year, so that’s not very helpful.


I’ll say that you state that as fact, but it’s a perception that not everyone shares.

I’ve said this in my own top level comment but it’s worth reiterating here to just make the point. Nobody trusts games media anymore and they don’t trust them because they do things like the above screenshot and engage in articles for access, in real journalism stuff like that is supposed to be disclosed. However the only ones that actually ever seem to bother are YouTubers with integrity.

I think the idea that quality is degrading is not a niche opinion by any stretch of the imagination. It’s basically the majority viewpoint of gamers.


That’s because a lot of the reviews weren’t been read because they weren’t trustworthy, if you reviewed a game poorly (even if it deserved the poor review) the journalist wouldn’t be invited back to review the next game that studio put out or were still the publisher could blacklist you blocking you from potentially dozens of games every year. Nintendo do this all the time.


What skin you want because it may be something that you can change if you are on a different skin but I’ve definitely been able to change it so it’s a browser of my choice.


At least in Europe supermarket seem to have stopped selling games entirely. I think they think everyone’s going digital but I would actually like it physical copy.

So now the only place you can buy physical games is to go into JJB sports (scumbag company, do not buy from them) and go to the small Game section.

So it’s become a self-fulfilling prophecy, no one buys physical anymore because it’s such a pain to buy physical so supermarkets are no longer stocking the games because it isn’t profitable but it isn’t profitable because they’re not stocking them.


All I get is the cookie pop-up. But jokes on them because I’m on the duck duck go browser so they don’t get any tracking info.


At least on Android you can configure whether or not apps use their inbuilt webview or just redirect to the proper browser. That feature probably doesn’t exist on iOS because Apple have opinions about customizability, and it’s that you shouldn’t have any.


Well I’m angry that I didn’t hear the misinformation. No one bothered to tell me.

So now the surprise has been ruined, I already know it’s not true.