Today, on February 28, nearly five years after Control’s initial launch, Remedy Entertainment, the team behind the Alan Wake, Quantum Break, and Control series, released an announcement regarding a deal between them and 505 Games, detailing a full transition to Remedy acquiring full rights to the franchise. While Remedy Entertainment previously developed the game with 505 Games having publishing, distribution, and marketing rights over Control, this latest transaction converts this authority to Remedy, giving them full rights over Control, Control 2, and their upcoming multiplayer game currently under the code Condor.
it’s so crazy to me that you guys are like this, it’s a different exe, it’s fine.
i have a switch just to play games that aren’t on my choice of platform, it’s fine. wild. it would be so weird to actively avoid things I know I’ll really enjoy just because i have to buy it via a different store than my favorite one
It’s not that I dislike buying games from another store (I have quite a few from GOG and Itch), what I’m wary about is the loader - especially knowing that Epic is too buddy-buddy with Tencent and both are known to siphon unnecessary amounts of user data.
This is obviously due to personal choices, so take everything I say here as things I care about - not necessarily that I expect everybody else to care about.
It’s not “a different exe”. It’s got Epic’s DRM - meaning it’s tied to the Epic Store, its continuous service, etc. If they fold, I lose access to the games I have on it. In all fairness, I don’t think they will fold any time soon but it still worries me.
With Steam not as much, for a couple reasons: they’re bigger so slightly less likely to fold; they’re not publicly listed so they answer to Gabe Newell and don’t have any legal requirement to increase share value; they promote and put a lot of time, sweat and money towards Linux gaming; and their store is just generally better than Epic’s.
Epic, on the other hand, is actively hostile to Linux gamers: you can’t even play Fortnite on it, they have no native store/launcher; and they don’t have any of the pros of Steam.
Furthermore, I already own more games than I will probably be able to play in my lifetime, so it’s not like I’m “missing an opportunity” by skipping a game that’s on the Epic store. :)
I didn’t even realize it released since it was epic exclusive, lol. I’m sure it’s good, but there is frighteningly little these days that would get me to download another launcher.
I wonder what folks’ reaction will be. Will they pull a GTA Definitive Edition and fuck it up with a bad AI uprez? Will gamers still feel entertained by a one-note gameplay mechanic? I love MP, but I recently replayed 1 + 2 and they feel quaint by today’s standards. The bullet time thing would be a nifty little tech demo in 2024.
As someone who loves the first two Max Paynes, and enjoys the third; the series should be left alone. With the way Max Payne 3 ended, there’s no good way to revive that franchise.
Look at the games Remedy have been making since splitting from Rockstar.
I really enjoyed Control and the Alan Wakes for the plot and narrative decisions. That’s who Remedy have become, story focused with emphasis on world building. MoCap actors, FMV segments, parallel world building via audio logs and journals, etc while keeping the lessons learned from the Max Payne series for the gameplay combat loops.
All the Max Payne games are mechanics centric; tight gunplay and bullet-time combat. They also have decent-to-solid plots, but I didn’t replay MP2 dozens of times because I wanted the Mona-Max arc’s dopamine hit, nor pathfinding through NYC apartment mazes. Nimble combat against formidable and fair AI is the core part of that series.
It wouldn’t be what you want it to be, and that’s okay that it’s in the past. Remedy have worked an EU and are leaning into that instead, and have done well consistently.
I play Max Payne (2 is my favorite) for the story, characters and game play. They’re all great. I think I disagree with just about everything you’ve said.
Remedy is publicly traded on NASDAQ Nordic, they can issues shares or debt for the money. But they’re probably going to buddy buddy with Epic Games again
Well then, if that asshole Sweeney is involved, I won’t be playing this game for a decade until it gets a sensible release. Which is a shame, because the first one is such a gem.
505 is one of the weirdest publishers to me, and probably the publisher I have played the most games from if I don’t include series with tons of games in them. Payday 2, Journey to the Savage Planet, Terraria, Backbreaker, Don’t Starve, Sniper Elite V2, How to Survive, Rocket league, Brothers. I can’t think of another publisher who has put out that many big games from different IPs.
Epic funded that and allowed them to take the risk. In that case they’re the good guys, so I don’t see the point in being a hardliner about their store. Use Playnite if you are adamant about having all your games in one launcher!
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Oh nice. I loved Control, so this is comforting to see!
My only fear is that they only do Epic exclusives.
Same here. That’s the reason I haven’t played Alan Wake 2.
it’s so crazy to me that you guys are like this, it’s a different exe, it’s fine.
i have a switch just to play games that aren’t on my choice of platform, it’s fine. wild. it would be so weird to actively avoid things I know I’ll really enjoy just because i have to buy it via a different store than my favorite one
It’s not that I dislike buying games from another store (I have quite a few from GOG and Itch), what I’m wary about is the loader - especially knowing that Epic is too buddy-buddy with Tencent and both are known to siphon unnecessary amounts of user data.
This is obviously due to personal choices, so take everything I say here as things I care about - not necessarily that I expect everybody else to care about.
It’s not “a different exe”. It’s got Epic’s DRM - meaning it’s tied to the Epic Store, its continuous service, etc. If they fold, I lose access to the games I have on it. In all fairness, I don’t think they will fold any time soon but it still worries me.
With Steam not as much, for a couple reasons: they’re bigger so slightly less likely to fold; they’re not publicly listed so they answer to Gabe Newell and don’t have any legal requirement to increase share value; they promote and put a lot of time, sweat and money towards Linux gaming; and their store is just generally better than Epic’s.
Epic, on the other hand, is actively hostile to Linux gamers: you can’t even play Fortnite on it, they have no native store/launcher; and they don’t have any of the pros of Steam.
Furthermore, I already own more games than I will probably be able to play in my lifetime, so it’s not like I’m “missing an opportunity” by skipping a game that’s on the Epic store. :)
I didn’t even realize it released since it was epic exclusive, lol. I’m sure it’s good, but there is frighteningly little these days that would get me to download another launcher.
Oh no not another launcher, the horror
I wouldn’t have played it either if I hadn’t decided that format shifting games/media is personally ethically acceptable.
Proceeds to leave out Max Payne.
For what it’s worth they are working with Rockstar on remastering Max Payne 1 and 2
I wonder what folks’ reaction will be. Will they pull a GTA Definitive Edition and fuck it up with a bad AI uprez? Will gamers still feel entertained by a one-note gameplay mechanic? I love MP, but I recently replayed 1 + 2 and they feel quaint by today’s standards. The bullet time thing would be a nifty little tech demo in 2024.
Funny as hell, it was the most horrible thing I could think of.
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“Look how they massacred my boy”
As someone who loves the first two Max Paynes, and enjoys the third; the series should be left alone. With the way Max Payne 3 ended, there’s no good way to revive that franchise.
Mona comes back alive again.
Look at the games Remedy have been making since splitting from Rockstar.
I really enjoyed Control and the Alan Wakes for the plot and narrative decisions. That’s who Remedy have become, story focused with emphasis on world building. MoCap actors, FMV segments, parallel world building via audio logs and journals, etc while keeping the lessons learned from the Max Payne series for the gameplay combat loops.
All the Max Payne games are mechanics centric; tight gunplay and bullet-time combat. They also have decent-to-solid plots, but I didn’t replay MP2 dozens of times because I wanted the Mona-Max arc’s dopamine hit, nor pathfinding through NYC apartment mazes. Nimble combat against formidable and fair AI is the core part of that series.
It wouldn’t be what you want it to be, and that’s okay that it’s in the past. Remedy have worked an EU and are leaning into that instead, and have done well consistently.
I play Max Payne (2 is my favorite) for the story, characters and game play. They’re all great. I think I disagree with just about everything you’ve said.
So they have full Control now.
ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL
THIS HURTS YOU
“Baby, baby, baby, orange peel.”
Well this is concerning. If they’re not getting any more funding from 505 to make Control 2 and Condor then, uh, who’s funding Control 2 and Condor?
Remedy is publicly traded on NASDAQ Nordic, they can issues shares or debt for the money. But they’re probably going to buddy buddy with Epic Games again
Well then, if that asshole Sweeney is involved, I won’t be playing this game for a decade until it gets a sensible release. Which is a shame, because the first one is such a gem.
How did you play the first game? It’s not 10 years old yet.
I think the implication is that they would not buy it if released only on Epic. Neither would I if it came out as an Epic exclusive.
The banks
Hope this means more releases on gog.
“TAKE CONTROL” -Old Gods of Asgard
Well this means they’ll almost certainly make it EGS only
505 not being a New Mexican business bothers me in my sleep
505 is one of the weirdest publishers to me, and probably the publisher I have played the most games from if I don’t include series with tons of games in them. Payday 2, Journey to the Savage Planet, Terraria, Backbreaker, Don’t Starve, Sniper Elite V2, How to Survive, Rocket league, Brothers. I can’t think of another publisher who has put out that many big games from different IPs.
Proof that Indie and AA is some of the best gaming in the live service and micro transaction era.
Control was such a nice surprise. I hadn’t heard anything about it and just grabbed it on a whim in some sale and I loved the game from start to end.
That clock bug. Sigh.
Good. Now get rid of Epic Fail Games.
Good for them. Now please release future games on steam.
God yes, fuck Epic
I’d be happier if they release on GOG
I will fully support this once they release GOG Galaxy for Linux. Which is never.
I’ve ever used GOG Galaxy, so I don’t know what it offers, but Heroic launcher has worked for the GOG games I’ve played.
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Seriously. I want to play Alan Wake 2, but not if it’s on Epic’s store.
Asian Wake 2 will likely never come to another platform. It’s published by epic games. Not a timed exclusive situation.
I’d like to play this game.
So play it. Support the developer. I’m staunchly anti epic, Alan Wake 2 has been my only exception.
Asian Wake
🤦
There are… other means available
Remedy deserves the purchase though the game is fantastic, epic drama aside, but I hear ya.
I used those other means but would like to give them money for a fantastic game.
Epic funded that and allowed them to take the risk. In that case they’re the good guys, so I don’t see the point in being a hardliner about their store. Use Playnite if you are adamant about having all your games in one launcher!
Tim Sweeney has an infinite money hack called “Fortnite” and he uses it to get exclusive games
Hope they can get quantum break too
Quantum Break was SO good. I’ll die on that hill. I want more of it.
You can tell they’re laying groundwork for the remedy verse with Alan Wake 2, including Quantum Break
:::
With Tim Breaker (played by Shawn Ashmore, aka Jack Joyce) in the dark place, dreaming he’s living whole other lives. Plus Mr Door/Mr Hatch
:::
Clearly looked like Mr Door was meant to be Lance Reddick, IMHO… Sadly we lost him :(
Great story and really cool atmosphere but dogshit gameplay lol.
Fuck yeah. Remedy has just been killing it and having Control fully under their umbrella is great news.