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Natural Selection and then Natural Selection 2 - no games or communities like it. Before there time both of them and very much under appreciated. Felt like NS2 never really found it’s rhythm but Unknown World kept it going longer than most games.

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I feel like I learn more about what I shouldn’t play then what games I should play when I am on here.

Well this just wrecked my evening.

But this is an ongoing, recurring story. Thief 2014 was a mockery of the original titles.

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But can I still buy the OG subnautica?

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Heads up: once in a blue moon it’s on “sale” for free on Epic Games.

(Ask me how I know.)

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Fuck epic games, but I was happy I didn’t have to buy it a second time on steam to play it with my kid.

I’m just contemplating to get the mobile version of Subnautica.

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I remember Flayra from Natural Selection, a half-life mod twenty years ago. I remember him making appeals for investors/donations to keep Unknown Worlds afloat (or maybe just launch it as a company. I recall a video he posted where he showed us his tiny apartment and the milk in his fridge.)

Then Subnautica came out years later and I thought ‘Well I’ll be damned.’

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Were you on the NS forums? I went by “Scythe” back in those days.

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👍

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Pop it in your calendars? Maybe I’m using calendars wrong, but mine aren’t filled with things I should avoid doing. But, I’m willing to learn. What date should I put “Don’t Buy Subnautica 2” on?

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Everyday up until it releases

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66h

Shat about after it releases? How will I know to keep not buying it?

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42h

Shat about after it releases?

Sure, but maybe not in public?

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It’s not coming out until 2026. It’s probably unhealthy to hold it in that long.

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67h

Yes

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45h

Nooooooooooooooo I was literally just talking about being excited for this game.

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I will support this by continuing to be apathetic toward (and in fact ignorant of) the game known as Subnautica 2.

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I’m not ignorant of it, just uninterested. I’ve watched gameplay footage of the first one, and it didn’t look like my kind of game.

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First one was a cool premise but really annoying in some ways. The game sort of assumes you get certain fragments of blue prints by certain points but doesn’t actually make them easy to find nor really give you any hints to find them.

For people who’ve played it was for the sea moth and and later the moon well.

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Heh. Moon Well. Warcraft 3 player.

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I just really don’t like crafting mechanics in games, and the game seemed very collecting and crafting heavy.

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It was weirdly a little light on crafting in some ways. But extremely heavy in others. I tried playing it like Minecraft and stockpiling stuff but that’s not really the way. I found it slightly more enjoyable to gather things only when I needed them.

Also the game has no map and I’m REALLY bad with directions. Like REALLY bad.

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Yep, it loops between exploration and basebuilding / crafting.

The exploration part is what usually gets people hooked because the alien underwater setting is amazing. The other stuff is more to give you a reason to stick around for longer, and pace your exploration since need to unlock things at certain points.

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Yar har fiddle dee dee

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Pirate all Krafton games.

Edit. Apparently there’s more to the story.

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You should get a publisher if:

You want to make one game then get fired

You want your work to be bastardized by the publisher in the future

You want countless hours of overtime/crunch and no compensation

You want to be another disposable cog in the machine

If that doesn’t sound like something you want, self-publish.

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Publishers are cancer. Self publish whenever possible !

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You Don’t Need a F-ing Publisher*

*unless you do.

It would just require smaller teams making lower budget games that are more focused on Art than sales, which I would be really happy about honestly. Too many people are in this industry solely to rake in the big bucks.

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A self-published game with a focus on quality will outperform any AAA game.

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Source?

Pretty much every popular indie game has a publisher. Publishers are great because they provide relatively low cost marketing, the trick is to be careful when signing a contract that you don’t sign away too much while still getting value from them.

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If you are going to compete with AAA games it’s going to require a big budget, which not all Devs have access to.

A high quality AA game would probably do great, but would be unlikely to outsell a AAA with hundreds of millions of dollars for budget.

Obsidian made a fantastic game with Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire but it was considered a ‘failure’ sales wise (at least at launch), despite being well received.

Obsidian sold to Micro$oft despite making very high quality games and their crowdfunding campaigns consistently earning more money than they were asking for. The stated reason was they found it hard to keep their employees paid consistently and they didn’t want to lay people off. Also that they thought they could do just as good as other big players in the industry if they had access to larger budgets.

I think it was a bad move. They managed to survive the massive round of 9,000 jobs cuts to Microsoft’s gaming division (this time), but you just know that Microsoft would cut them in a heartbeat if they thought it would save them a dime in the future. That being said I think it’s understandable to want to see your employees paid, and it’s just a sad fact that AAA games require huge budgets nowadays, so I can kind of understand why they sold, even if I don’t agree with it.

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I’m still waiting for Obsidian to finish writing the second half of Tyranny and I won’t be buying another of their games until they do.

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Seems like there is a plot twist to this story no one is mentioning https://bsky.app/profile/jasonschreier.bsky.social/post/3ltmyjaecpc2w

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Best comment. Trust the publisher bro !

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It sucks that this is going around too. Because no matter what the “right” choice is the devs are still gonna have to see what should have just been their fun project get thrown around in gaming politic hell

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Everyone seems to be more interested in the latest techbro feud so I wanted to highlight what he said about Unknown Worlds staff not being given specifics on what their compensation will be. The statement was quite nebulous on that.

Gods, I hate this culture. Make concrete, public promises to your staff to follow through on your acquisition deal? Nah, can’t have that. Open yourself up to liability by throwing the former execs under the bus, in detail? No problem!

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I’m sure there’s some truth in there, but it is hard to believe it entirely. This is what you get for unnecessarily selling your company.

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310h

Ah shit, is this ZA/UM all over again?

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Oh. Huh. That seems important. I wonder what they have to say in response.

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Oh fucking god dammit. I was really looking forward to it too.

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