Gamers will use anything to justify the price for their favorite games.
I’m not saying it’s a bad game or anything, I’ve never actually played it as it doesn’t really look like my type of game, but the “reasoning” that they’ll never put it on sale because it’s “unfair” to people who paid full price is stupid.
I don’t think it goes on sale, at least not for any significant amount. To be fair, it’s easily worth the full price, which is not something I often say.
Yeah, they took a shot at doing their pricing strategy backwards from everyone else. The game was cheapest when it was in early access and the cost has only gone up as they make the game bigger and better. I don’t think it has ever gone on sale, but is easily worth the full price.
Or we can be upset that some devs never put their games on sale when tons of others do. I don’t care if it’s considered “the best game ever made” by gamers who are already fans of factory-type games, that argument doesn’t hold any water for someone who’s a fan of other genres like RPGs or shooters.
Also, their “reasoning” that it’s unfair to people who paid full price is bullshit and you know it. Tainted Grail had its full release last month, along with a price increase, but the game had gone on sale multiple times between the EA and full releases. Abiotic Factor is doing the exact same thing, and also had sales in between the EA release and full game. There’s no real reason that it shouldn’t go on sale at least once a year or something. If you miss a sale, that’s on you.
Just finished Tyranny and Pilliars of eternity so I’m picking up the sequel Deadfire. Checked out the price history last week and seems like it’s regularly 75% off during seasonal sales so I’m pleased to see it at $10.
Love Tyranny and PoE. Think Deadfire would have been an exceptional game if there was about half as much of it, but even as an epic RPG it does go on. Ten bucks for ‘three big games’ of content is a steal, though.
It isn’t that ‘successful game has a better-funded sequel that loses the magic due to feature creep’ is exactly unheard of - it’s a tale as old as time. But Deadfire was a sales disappointment, which it probably wouldn’t have been if they’d only spent half as much making it, and so we won’t be getting a PoE3 :-(
For whatever it’s worth, I never finished it, as an avid crpg fan. It’s not the hours it takes, it’s the constant feeling that you’ve got so much to do but no real idea where to start, or where to go, or what to do. If it was a world map with clickable places, like the original baldurs gates or even the somewhat intimidating but still much more digestible owlcat’s pathfinders style “railroad” experience, it’d been much nicer. But the free map to roam just makes both decisions harder, and also the seashell collector inside me awaken and suddenly I have to explore each pixel of the map in case I miss something, which is very exhausting on top of the already exhausting freedom.
I wish Expedition 33 was more than 10% off. I get why, but still.
My wishlist has some sub $5USD games so I’ll probably drop 20 or so. I really don’t need the extras though. According to SteamDB, I’ve only played about 41% of my 714 games - and that doesn’t include all the GOG and free Epic/Amazon games I’ve snagged over the years.
One of my favorite games of all time, The Talos Principle, is on sale for $5. There’s a remastered version but honestly the original holds up really well. It’s a first person puzzle platformer game similar to Portal but the main point is the story, which is a really thought provoking philosophical exploration of humanity, machine consciousness, and self determination. It is legitimately the most interesting game I’ve played in the past 5 years and it has really caused me to think about these topics in ways I hadn’t before.
Myself I am buying Persona 5, Pizza tower, and the Phoenix Wright trilogy. I have been wanting to play Persona 5 basically since it came out, and I got to try Pizza Tower a few weeks ago at a friend’s house and really loved it as a fan of the Wario Land games. Phoenix Wright is just nostalgic for me and there really aren’t similar games out there.
Talos Principle is a great puzzle solving game, but I did get tired of the back story and just started skipping it. If I wanted to be depressed I won’t be playing puzzle games.
WARNING : Playing excellent, well told, thought provoking puzzle games about AI will make you so much madder about the silly folk that say “I turned AI sentient” folk. 🙄
Disco isnso good. But even the devs said they would rather have it that people pirate the game bacause they got fucked over and don’t make money of the game anymore.
There’s a rather long documentary on it. I want to say by NoClip but not totally sure.
Short version is they came up with the idea in the 90s I want to say, playing tabletop with a friend group. Two main designers. Helped set up a company to make a computer RPG version and designed and built the game with a team. Outsider investing came in and bought up some amount of the company.
Once game was built and shipped and they were looking into what to do next they were effectively ousted from the company. So the two original designers of the game now get nothing and lost control of their passion project.
Dear God no. Refund Disco Elysium if you can. Some shady asshole ended up stealing the game from the original creators so any purchases you make ends up lining the pockets of the thieves.
People got wise to it lol. People were posting flowcharts about not buying games until they were on flash deals if you want them. Also some years I think they did something that led people to believe only having specific games on your wishlist was advantageous which led to people removing everything from their wishlist except for stuff that was more expensive. That disproportionately hurt indie devs.
All in all I think I’m glad it’s gone. Plus the games (like that racing thing) never made sense to me.
i remember one year there was a game i wanted all year
and it came up on flash sale finally for like 95% off, and steam shit the bed for two hours and I couldnt check out, presumably from the crush of purchase attempts.
I emailed and asked if they’d honor the price given the issues on their side, and they said no, I missed the sale. Not gonna lie, that kinda heated me up quite a bit, cause I didnt miss the damn sale, I wasnt able to check out cause their end shit itself.
In my head, the sales were much deeper like you say, but I could be wrong.
I also miss when the sale would start and there’d be a minigame or some type of event. They’ve really been streamlining a lot of stuff though I think to reduce network traffic maybe, or maybe they haven’t had the time for events when they are redesigning their whole client and steamos and stuff.
All were accepted and refunded, because all were for technical issues that made them literally, factually unplayable… and probably because in 10 years of steam I’ve only had 3 refunds.
So Yes, because it wouldnt change anything for me.
they were easy to get if the game was a scam or if you had serious unresolvable technical issues, but not so easy if you just impulse bought a game and regretted it.
Australia sued Valve due to their refund policy and Valve changed the refund policy to what it is today.
Looks like you enjoy retro-style 3D platformers. Get Corn Kidz 64!
Like Pseudoregalia, it’s another N64-style 3D platformer released in 2023 with a goat protagonist trapped in a dream. This is an oddly narrow coincidence.
I have it on my wishlist! But have to cut the spending somewhere haha.
I’d also like to get Cyber Knights, A Hat In Time, Yellow Taxi Goes Vroom, Skin Deep and Soulash 2 - but it’s just too much money with so little time for gaming now (especially with keyboard + mouse for the latter two).
I made the indie game INK INSIDE, which is based on a lost cartoon pilot I pitched to Nickelodeon in 2015.
Instead, I turned it into a cartoon show action RPG staring Brian David Gilbert.
It has a completely unique combat mechanic that’s a combination of beat-em-ups and bust-a-move. It’s big on narrative, loot, and world building and even has live action segments.
We’re on sale at 50% for only $10.
Would love for you to check it out, as it seems like you might really enjoy it based on the other games in your cart!
PS - Game works great on Steam Deck! (We just don’t have the green check yet because it takes Valve forever to provide them)
I have Valkie 64, and I say save your money. Last I played it, it was VERY rough, unpolished, and felt unfinished. It didn’t properly replicate N64 graphics, looking more like an emulator from 2005 with the internal resolution cracked way up and only basic bilinear texture filtering. The controls are clunky, and I don’t mean like in an N64 game way, I mean they just feel bad.
Even for $5 USD or whatever, I say its not worth it. I was disappointed because the trailer seemed to make it look like an attempt to recapture the magic of Ocarina of Time, but it doesn’t do that at all. Like, not even close.
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Yup! Most of my wishlist is on sale.
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that’s the one that david bowie did the soundtrack for right?
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The price is the price, yo
It’s already the cheapest game per minute played
You meant the cheapest drug, right? Factorio is addicting.
It’s worse than alcohol but better than heroin
I’m guessing minecraft beats it. Or if you look at an individual player with thousands of hours it’s probably one of the mario speedrunners.
What about the price for your life?
Iirc the creators said they’ll never put it on sale because that’s unfair to people who paid the full price. The price is the price for Factorio.
Gamers will use anything to justify the price for their favorite games.
I’m not saying it’s a bad game or anything, I’ve never actually played it as it doesn’t really look like my type of game, but the “reasoning” that they’ll never put it on sale because it’s “unfair” to people who paid full price is stupid.
I don’t think it goes on sale, at least not for any significant amount. To be fair, it’s easily worth the full price, which is not something I often say.
Yeah, they took a shot at doing their pricing strategy backwards from everyone else. The game was cheapest when it was in early access and the cost has only gone up as they make the game bigger and better. I don’t think it has ever gone on sale, but is easily worth the full price.
I have like 4k hours in that stupid game. I love it so much
Aa per the FAQ on their website, Factorio will never go on sale.
There’s always the five finger discount
Or you can simply cough up the money and pay for one of the best games ever made?
Or we can be upset that some devs never put their games on sale when tons of others do. I don’t care if it’s considered “the best game ever made” by gamers who are already fans of factory-type games, that argument doesn’t hold any water for someone who’s a fan of other genres like RPGs or shooters.
Also, their “reasoning” that it’s unfair to people who paid full price is bullshit and you know it. Tainted Grail had its full release last month, along with a price increase, but the game had gone on sale multiple times between the EA and full releases. Abiotic Factor is doing the exact same thing, and also had sales in between the EA release and full game. There’s no real reason that it shouldn’t go on sale at least once a year or something. If you miss a sale, that’s on you.
I’m sorry, I didn’t see Undertale anywhere on the box art.
Which is kinda stupid imo. If you want more people to try and buy your game, you should at least put it on sale once a year.
I have to imagine once it ages a bit more they’ll bring the regular price down. But as many fans say, it’s really a fair price for what the game is.
They’ve sold between 5 and 8 million copies of that game to date.
I think they’re doing fine without needing a sale and devaluing their product.
I think I will get:
The problem is I have many games unplayed in my backlog.
I could maybe use 20-40 euros, so I could get one of these
These
Or
Or
Don’t know yet which I should get
Outlaws isn’t worth it tbh, I really enjoyed death stranding though great game
I haven’t played a single game I bought from last summer sale ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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Lossless Scaling. Worth it
Just finished Tyranny and Pilliars of eternity so I’m picking up the sequel Deadfire. Checked out the price history last week and seems like it’s regularly 75% off during seasonal sales so I’m pleased to see it at $10.
Love Tyranny and PoE. Think Deadfire would have been an exceptional game if there was about half as much of it, but even as an epic RPG it does go on. Ten bucks for ‘three big games’ of content is a steal, though.
It isn’t that ‘successful game has a better-funded sequel that loses the magic due to feature creep’ is exactly unheard of - it’s a tale as old as time. But Deadfire was a sales disappointment, which it probably wouldn’t have been if they’d only spent half as much making it, and so we won’t be getting a PoE3 :-(
For whatever it’s worth, I never finished it, as an avid crpg fan. It’s not the hours it takes, it’s the constant feeling that you’ve got so much to do but no real idea where to start, or where to go, or what to do. If it was a world map with clickable places, like the original baldurs gates or even the somewhat intimidating but still much more digestible owlcat’s pathfinders style “railroad” experience, it’d been much nicer. But the free map to roam just makes both decisions harder, and also the seashell collector inside me awaken and suddenly I have to explore each pixel of the map in case I miss something, which is very exhausting on top of the already exhausting freedom.
I wish Expedition 33 was more than 10% off. I get why, but still.
My wishlist has some sub $5USD games so I’ll probably drop 20 or so. I really don’t need the extras though. According to SteamDB, I’ve only played about 41% of my 714 games - and that doesn’t include all the GOG and free Epic/Amazon games I’ve snagged over the years.
Expedition 33 is often high discounted on instant gaming.
It’s 40% off now https://www.instant-gaming.com/en/17015-buy-clair-obscur-expedition-33-pc-steam/
I bought
Gris is a fun afternoon jaunt. I just picked up Outer Wilds finally, too. Looking forward to it quite a bit after reading a lot of reviews.
Ya’ll should be sure to get the DLC for outer wilds as well! And I’m sure you know, but go in as blind as possible!!
I bought the dlc bundled. They always get me with that.
One of my favorite games of all time, The Talos Principle, is on sale for $5. There’s a remastered version but honestly the original holds up really well. It’s a first person puzzle platformer game similar to Portal but the main point is the story, which is a really thought provoking philosophical exploration of humanity, machine consciousness, and self determination. It is legitimately the most interesting game I’ve played in the past 5 years and it has really caused me to think about these topics in ways I hadn’t before.
Myself I am buying Persona 5, Pizza tower, and the Phoenix Wright trilogy. I have been wanting to play Persona 5 basically since it came out, and I got to try Pizza Tower a few weeks ago at a friend’s house and really loved it as a fan of the Wario Land games. Phoenix Wright is just nostalgic for me and there really aren’t similar games out there.
Talos Principle is a great puzzle solving game, but I did get tired of the back story and just started skipping it. If I wanted to be depressed I won’t be playing puzzle games.
Yes, second Talos Principal, it is excellent and the soundtrack too.
WARNING : Playing excellent, well told, thought provoking puzzle games about AI will make you so much madder about the silly folk that say “I turned AI sentient” folk. 🙄
Great game, solid sequel too.
All these have been on my wishlist for ever. Finally made the purchases today.
Edit to add Disco Elysium has been refunded. Thanks everyone for the advice.
Disco Elysium drama aside, this is an absurdly great trio of games. Literally thousands of potential hours. Psssst: KSP mods.
Disco isnso good. But even the devs said they would rather have it that people pirate the game bacause they got fucked over and don’t make money of the game anymore.
How did that happen?
There’s a rather long documentary on it. I want to say by NoClip but not totally sure.
Short version is they came up with the idea in the 90s I want to say, playing tabletop with a friend group. Two main designers. Helped set up a company to make a computer RPG version and designed and built the game with a team. Outsider investing came in and bought up some amount of the company.
Once game was built and shipped and they were looking into what to do next they were effectively ousted from the company. So the two original designers of the game now get nothing and lost control of their passion project.
Edit: while. NoClip is making one, the one I’m thinking of was done by People Make Games. At least I think it’s this one? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JGIGA8taN-M
I actually looked up the source for this and couldn’t find it.
That being said I agree with the sentiment.
https://medium.com/@artofrostov/to-fans-of-disco-elysium-concerning-the-situation-at-za-um-3e6bc46ea9c
Dear God no. Refund Disco Elysium if you can. Some shady asshole ended up stealing the game from the original creators so any purchases you make ends up lining the pockets of the thieves.
https://medium.com/@artofrostov/to-fans-of-disco-elysium-concerning-the-situation-at-za-um-3e6bc46ea9c
The original creators have actually encouraged people to pirate the game instead.
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Check the mega thread here to get started. The game is excellent, just don’t give your money to the slimy suit that stole the game.
Sounds like they lost their lawsuit then, if their post is three years old and the devs are publicly encouraging people to commit crimes.
Just because something is legally correct doesn’t mean it is ethical. Just because something is illegal doesn’t mean it is immoral.
Awesome, thank you. Refund requested
Summer Stale.
I miss the old sales, when games had deep discounts and the deals cycled like every 2/4/6/8 hours.
People got wise to it lol. People were posting flowcharts about not buying games until they were on flash deals if you want them. Also some years I think they did something that led people to believe only having specific games on your wishlist was advantageous which led to people removing everything from their wishlist except for stuff that was more expensive. That disproportionately hurt indie devs.
All in all I think I’m glad it’s gone. Plus the games (like that racing thing) never made sense to me.
i remember one year there was a game i wanted all year
and it came up on flash sale finally for like 95% off, and steam shit the bed for two hours and I couldnt check out, presumably from the crush of purchase attempts.
I emailed and asked if they’d honor the price given the issues on their side, and they said no, I missed the sale. Not gonna lie, that kinda heated me up quite a bit, cause I didnt miss the damn sale, I wasnt able to check out cause their end shit itself.
consumerism is a disease. i can’t believe I’m still seeing people asking for gamified fomo bullshit.
The periodic sale is already driving up the consumerism enough for me, I really don’t need to buy more games, but I want to
“WAH, WAH, HOW DARE PEOPLE LAMENT THE FACT THAT THEY USED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE ONLY ESCAPE FROM THE HELL THAT IS REALITY!”
Wow. That was unnecessary
Do you have evidence to support that the flash deal prices aren’t the prices that are there for the entire length of the sale now?
Yeah idk if its nostalgia or wut.
In my head, the sales were much deeper like you say, but I could be wrong.
I also miss when the sale would start and there’d be a minigame or some type of event. They’ve really been streamlining a lot of stuff though I think to reduce network traffic maybe, or maybe they haven’t had the time for events when they are redesigning their whole client and steamos and stuff.
discounts were much deeper. because devs/publishers were more willing to give a 90% discount to their newer games if it was for 2/4 hours.
yup, but in exchange would you give up the refund process that we now have?
I’ve only had 3 refunds.
2 on the old system, 1 on the new system.
All were accepted and refunded, because all were for technical issues that made them literally, factually unplayable… and probably because in 10 years of steam I’ve only had 3 refunds.
So Yes, because it wouldnt change anything for me.
Has the refund process changed? From what I remember it has always been very easy to refund?
they were easy to get if the game was a scam or if you had serious unresolvable technical issues, but not so easy if you just impulse bought a game and regretted it.
Australia sued Valve due to their refund policy and Valve changed the refund policy to what it is today.
Well, the refund policy has only existed 10 years now. Well in it’s current form. Previously refunds were much harder to get.
Yes because by the time I actually get passed the character creator or the introduction I’ve usually already used up my time
Personally, yes.
I’m planning to buy:
As I mainly play on the Steam Deck.
Any other recommendations?
Nice taste, similar to mine. I just picked up Sapo 3D. Played Pseudoregalia recently and loved it.
I suggest you take a look at Cavern of Dreams and Frogun.
Thanks, I hadn’t heard of Frogun! So many frog games with Kero Quest 64 too!
Lol yes. Already on my Wishlist!
Frogs are what peak 3D platformer performance looks like.
Looks like you enjoy retro-style 3D platformers. Get Corn Kidz 64!
Like Pseudoregalia, it’s another N64-style 3D platformer released in 2023 with a goat protagonist trapped in a dream. This is an oddly narrow coincidence.
I have it on my wishlist! But have to cut the spending somewhere haha. I’d also like to get Cyber Knights, A Hat In Time, Yellow Taxi Goes Vroom, Skin Deep and Soulash 2 - but it’s just too much money with so little time for gaming now (especially with keyboard + mouse for the latter two).
Pseudoregalia is insanely good
It is very good. Nails the style.
Cast to Chill is a pretty great fishing game for the steam deck. I’ve been enjoying it since the NextFest demo.
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I really enjoyed Azaran, Gravity Storm and Always With You in the NextFest.
A Game About Digging a Hole looks to be a fun game to play while your legs fall asleep on the toilet. Only 20% off, but it’s a sub $5 game.
I made the indie game INK INSIDE, which is based on a lost cartoon pilot I pitched to Nickelodeon in 2015.
Instead, I turned it into a cartoon show action RPG staring Brian David Gilbert.
It has a completely unique combat mechanic that’s a combination of beat-em-ups and bust-a-move. It’s big on narrative, loot, and world building and even has live action segments.
We’re on sale at 50% for only $10.
Would love for you to check it out, as it seems like you might really enjoy it based on the other games in your cart!
PS - Game works great on Steam Deck! (We just don’t have the green check yet because it takes Valve forever to provide them)
I have Valkie 64, and I say save your money. Last I played it, it was VERY rough, unpolished, and felt unfinished. It didn’t properly replicate N64 graphics, looking more like an emulator from 2005 with the internal resolution cracked way up and only basic bilinear texture filtering. The controls are clunky, and I don’t mean like in an N64 game way, I mean they just feel bad.
Even for $5 USD or whatever, I say its not worth it. I was disappointed because the trailer seemed to make it look like an attempt to recapture the magic of Ocarina of Time, but it doesn’t do that at all. Like, not even close.
Little nightmares II looks good at $2.99
Bah. Bought Animal Well for $18 last night, but just saw now it was included in a bundle for $7.Edit: praise steams refund policy
Edit2: Jesus christ I’m an idiot