Even so, the EU is large enough that if they legislated changes, like they did with Phone charging ports, companies will fall in line so as not to miss out on a big market for their products. Results may differ for digital products though.
China is even bigger, though. There are many cases where the same happened, a product was altered globally because the company selling it wanted all that sweet China money and maintaining two different versions would be too costly.
Its just strange to me China wouldn’t have a problem with this, but the EU does? The CCP is way more restrictive and controlling than the EU. If the CCP found out that single player games are connecting to an outside internet source, they’d shut that down immediately. They would be freaking out. Perhaps it is because PC gaming in China is not very popular compared to mobile? Or perhaps because it is so expensive due to taxes and other restrictions that they don’t feel like they need to bother? I wonder.
I realize it is likely you are from a nation in the European Union, as Europeans and Canadians seem to make up like 95% of Lemmy’s userbase, so I mean no offense when I say this, but the Chinese gamer playerbase is more than double the size of the playerbases of every nation in the entire EU combined. Companies wouldn’t really care about losing EU if they can break into or keep the Chinese market. For many of the previous documented cases of EU legislation changing something, the businesses would have totally ignored those if China required something different and the business had to choose between the two. Bigger number means more money.
Im just saying it is shocking to me that the CCP seems to be okay with that. I don’t think the CCP makes basically any right choices, but even a broken clock is right twice a day, and this would be one of those times. Crazy they haven’t done anything about it already. The EU shouldn’t need to handle this if the CCP knew about it. Maybe they don’t know?
You’re absolutely right that the chinese market is much larger and could exert this force if it wanted to, but the EU rarely makes these types of moves, and they’re normally focusing on consumer protection (think GDPR), which I don’t think the CCP is really focused on.
It is a little bit different though, if it was illegal tomorrow it would be fixed in the EU alone. The charging ports is am efficiency in production decision. Companies can and do give different products to different regions, coke is different, chocolate is different, software has different festures and terms.
Which means there’s an incentive for studios to remove it as soon as new sales aren’t bringing enough money for its cost to be worth it.
That’s when you want to pirate (or buy, if you’re into that kind of shit) the game. With the added benefit that it’s unlikely that the studio will come up with more updates or DLC, and if the game is at all moddable it’ll probably have a mature community patch that’ll fix everything the studio was unwilling or unable to patch. (Also, I’m not sure how denuvo cracking works, but I doubt it removes all of that shit, so a game with it properly removed will probably run better than a cracked one, even if the cracked one still ran better than the original infected version.)
RUNE used to be there, but once Denuvo got updated, Empress was the only one.
I did some research and apparently Empress is out too. Apparently they shut off their Internet connection because they started hurting themself. The golden age is over
Don’t worry, more people are on it than just Empress. You don’t have to lash out just because you don’t know how to find them. I will save you the trouble of reading my future comments.
Also Sony DOES NOT realize how much of their customer base are penguins living on remote islands, they have been getting slammed with sanctions on penguin tux imports from Italy and now this?!
Could you elaborate a little more? Like do those countries not allow subscription services or something?
Only reason i can think of with my rational, non-global-economic brain is that it’s got too much gory/sexual/political/whatever content that isn’t worth the effort censoring.
They are countries that do not have PSN access. As Sony wants to make PSN accounts mandatory on PC, they got in hot water for selling their games in countries where you can’t legally even have a PSN account.
In response, they blocked sales in all those countries.
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Nothing to see here, just Sony doing Sony things. Money burning a hole in your pocket? Go grab a handful of indie games.
Sony being retarded again. It much be a day who ends with a y.
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Those poor two or three guy in Antarctica…
RIP the penguins.
Are they adding a PSN Account requirement to a single player game again?
Should be illegal. It’s not, but it should be. Globally.
EU petitions to change the malicious gaming industry would be a good start because EU is a large gaming population.
It may be large but EU is certainly not the largest.
This is something I think even the Chinese government would want to ban.
Even so, the EU is large enough that if they legislated changes, like they did with Phone charging ports, companies will fall in line so as not to miss out on a big market for their products. Results may differ for digital products though.
China is even bigger, though. There are many cases where the same happened, a product was altered globally because the company selling it wanted all that sweet China money and maintaining two different versions would be too costly.
Its just strange to me China wouldn’t have a problem with this, but the EU does? The CCP is way more restrictive and controlling than the EU. If the CCP found out that single player games are connecting to an outside internet source, they’d shut that down immediately. They would be freaking out. Perhaps it is because PC gaming in China is not very popular compared to mobile? Or perhaps because it is so expensive due to taxes and other restrictions that they don’t feel like they need to bother? I wonder.
I realize it is likely you are from a nation in the European Union, as Europeans and Canadians seem to make up like 95% of Lemmy’s userbase, so I mean no offense when I say this, but the Chinese gamer playerbase is more than double the size of the playerbases of every nation in the entire EU combined. Companies wouldn’t really care about losing EU if they can break into or keep the Chinese market. For many of the previous documented cases of EU legislation changing something, the businesses would have totally ignored those if China required something different and the business had to choose between the two. Bigger number means more money.
Im just saying it is shocking to me that the CCP seems to be okay with that. I don’t think the CCP makes basically any right choices, but even a broken clock is right twice a day, and this would be one of those times. Crazy they haven’t done anything about it already. The EU shouldn’t need to handle this if the CCP knew about it. Maybe they don’t know?
No offense taken, thanks for the detailed reply!
You’re absolutely right that the chinese market is much larger and could exert this force if it wanted to, but the EU rarely makes these types of moves, and they’re normally focusing on consumer protection (think GDPR), which I don’t think the CCP is really focused on.
It is a little bit different though, if it was illegal tomorrow it would be fixed in the EU alone. The charging ports is am efficiency in production decision. Companies can and do give different products to different regions, coke is different, chocolate is different, software has different festures and terms.
Worse. Denuvo.
Play Anywhere ™️
Except for countries where we don’t allow you to
This games sucks anyway. If it’s blocked in your country, go play Bayonetta.
“Cross region trading and gifting is disabled for this item.”
Sorry Pope Leo, no game for you!
What’s bizzare to me is that the game is banned in Lithuania, but not in Latvia. The two countries are like twins.
It’s fine, I wasn’t going to buy it anyway.
Edit: LV is in Purchase Restricted Countries list, just not in the one with the flags, for some reason.
It is also weird that They restricted Belarus but not Russia.
It’s absolutely fine to put your pirate hat on when they do this kind of thing.
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Absolutely. It’s not like the person can even support the studio, it’s blocked in their country.
Denuvo
… is expensive. And a subscription service.
Which means there’s an incentive for studios to remove it as soon as new sales aren’t bringing enough money for its cost to be worth it.
That’s when you want to pirate (or buy, if you’re into that kind of shit) the game. With the added benefit that it’s unlikely that the studio will come up with more updates or DLC, and if the game is at all moddable it’ll probably have a mature community patch that’ll fix everything the studio was unwilling or unable to patch. (Also, I’m not sure how denuvo cracking works, but I doubt it removes all of that shit, so a game with it properly removed will probably run better than a cracked one, even if the cracked one still ran better than the original infected version.)
Tell that to Square Enix…
No DRM exists which can’t be circumvented one way or another given enough time.
Only if empress gives a shit or gets enough money. Last time I checked shes the only one crazy enough to attack Denuvo
If you’re unhappy about the lack of crackers worth a damn, you could always learn to do it yourself.
let me just get on that real quick 😂 I’m sure that the lack of people engaged in it doesn’t mean it’s hard or anything.
man if only it was that easy
Nothing in life is easy.
Have you ever considered public speaking?
If you have, don’t.
What an idiotic statement.
So you realize how complicated Denuvo is? Only one person in the entire WORLD currently can crack it.
Wasn’t there also a guy who only did sports games that could do it too or am i misremembering?
RUNE used to be there, but once Denuvo got updated, Empress was the only one.
I did some research and apparently Empress is out too. Apparently they shut off their Internet connection because they started hurting themself. The golden age is over
Don’t worry, more people are on it than just Empress. You don’t have to lash out just because you don’t know how to find them. I will save you the trouble of reading my future comments.
Right back at you
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I intend to.
It will also have Denuvo, 70€, and it is the in top selling games on Steam right now. Well, that happens when gaming becomes mainstream i guess…
Does that mean it can’t run on the steam deck then?
Steam Deck compatibility is uknown atm. But the new Doom has also Denuvo and it is available on Steam Deck.
Some poor antarctic scientist is gonna be fucking pissed.
Also Sony DOES NOT realize how much of their customer base are penguins living on remote islands, they have been getting slammed with sanctions on penguin tux imports from Italy and now this?!
I still don’t understand how blocking individual EU countries conforms to the EU single market.
It doesn’t
Who is going to report them?
Probably nobody 🫤
I mean I hoped someone would.
How do I report them
You can try [email protected] (no idea if this email still works) or their website contact form but this is usually for breaches of EU laws by member states. https://ec.europa.eu/law/application-eu-law/report-breach/en/check-your-criteria
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Why?
Likely PSN requirements. Same thing happened with Helldivers until Sony reversed the decision.
Helldivers is still blocked for those countries. They just dropped the PSN requirement.
That’s Sony telling the customers they kicked to the curb that it wasn’t because of the PSN thing.
It was personal.
Could you elaborate a little more? Like do those countries not allow subscription services or something?
Only reason i can think of with my rational, non-global-economic brain is that it’s got too much gory/sexual/political/whatever content that isn’t worth the effort censoring.
They are countries that do not have PSN access. As Sony wants to make PSN accounts mandatory on PC, they got in hot water for selling their games in countries where you can’t legally even have a PSN account.
In response, they blocked sales in all those countries.
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