They’re using a trusted formula that has worked since Far Cry 3 from 12 years ago. It’s fun but it’s not going to turn a lot of heads. Many just wish they would try something different.
The Venn Diagram of “people still spending that much money on a game” and “people that are easy to please” seems to be a circle. Maybe something to do with a sunk-cost-fallacy coupled with the “social proof” stuff?
Yeah I don’t really get all the hate. Is it the greatest game ever? No not even a little. Is it good though? Yeah I think so. The combat isn’t all that deep but I’m mostly enjoying it for the writing and world building. It also helps that it’s a gorgeous game.
That being said I can’t see paying full price for it. I subscribed to ubisoft + for it and plan on canceling once I’m done with it. Playing it that way makes it cheaper than a ticket to the movies but for way more hours of pretty star wars locales.
I’m really glad I got it. No regrets at all. Solid gameplay and Fantastic atmosphere. Yesterday I played a mini mission which was sharing a meal with your little companion. Awesome.
There seems to be a TikTok campaign where certain people desperately want players to hate this game. I keep seeing this same skinny wispy-bearded dude over & over shitting on the game.
I keep seeing the videos, and what I watch just makes me say “It honestly doesn’t look bad to me.”
Well, I’m having a really good time with it. It’s nothing groundbreaking, but it is really tight and enjoyable. It’s a lot like an Uncharted in Space RPG. In both that regard, and it’s gameplay.
Which is so underrated, I’d put it as better than any of the recent 2D Mario games. Years later and Mario Wonder doesn’t even come close to the music levels in Rayman Legends.
The new Prince of Persia roguelike is pretty good, although I’ve hit a wall recently and am too stubborn to look up a walkthrough. Lots of fun otherwise, though.
I thought it was fine but it could have been great had it understood why people actually liked BOTW. The idea that you can just highlight every object in a 1km radius around you completely kills exploration, you’re incentivized to just go from map marker to map marker instead of actually exploring the world.
I mean it’s the first time in a long time someone other than EA got the star wars licence, and they make a bland, unexciting game. I can’t imagine Disney is very happy.
I dunno, I’ve played about 8 hours of SW:O and it’s genuinely fun. It’s not a crazy advancement of the genre, but not every game has to be. IMO it’s a very solid open world RPG without all the usual Ubisoft BS.
Damn, it’s down 45% over the last year as well. They seem to have released a few flops recently; and their notable IPs kinda just aren’t exciting anymore.
Shadows is them getting desperate. That game had been requested and expected since the ezio storyline when they came for him. Instead they released a side scroller and didn’t think twice about it. Now they’re struggling immensely and are trying to recover. I really want it to flop to hopefully drive a nail in the coffin.
Opposite experience for me. Outside of lemmy, it seems people actually like it. I was destroyed by downvotes for simply suggesting that it’s a nuanced topic to flame a game on its day one release.
The sad part is that it’s a fun game. The company rep and horrible pricing structure set them up for failure. Release this on steam for $60 and I think it would do great. It doesn’t have all the Ubisoft BS like tons of micro transactions or a million map icons. It was a really good direction shift that they just wouldn’t let succeed.
I bought it on PS5 and I’m having fun playing it. Sure, it doesn’t do anything new, the gameplay is very familiar and the enemy AI is dumb as rocks, but you get to play in the Star Wars universe, the locations look great and the story so far seems decent enough (although I’m not that far into the game yet).
Not every meal needs to be a 3 Michelin star gourmet affair, sometimes having a Big Mac with fries is perfectly fine.
If this game takes me 40 hours to complete at a price point of $70 that’s $1.75 an hour to be entertained. That’s not bad value at all IMO. And seeing how I’ll prob take longer doing side missions and such I see that going to under a dollar an hour. Not a ton you can do on a rainy day that will keep you entertained for less than that.
It seems to line up with a lot of other open world games for me. I’m not saying this is an amazing value, I just don’t see it as a bad value.
Not every meal meeds to be a 3 Michelin star gourmet affair, sometimes having a Big Mac with fries is perfectly fine.
I don’t think you really understand what you’re saying because this is an even bigger insult to Outlaws than anything I have ever said about the game.
Imagine a food served by a restaurant claiming to have 4 Michelin stars (Outlaws is a AAAA game -made up thing just like 4 Michelin stars- afterall) being compared to a Big Mac. That’s hilarious.
I don’t care for Ubisofts bland and lazy open world design formula, but SW:O appears to not do a lot of the usual open world BS that they’re known for.
I only get this from Skillup’s review and he had a host of problems with gameplay, but I also got the sense that this is a game that will be remembered fondly by a subset of the star wars fandom.
Hopefully the lesson that Ubi learns isn’t “see, we should stick with what works. Another generic open world Assassins Creed RPG-Lite”.
I hurts me how bad SW:O did for that very reason. There’s no XP, there’s no tower in each zone to unlock or whatever. It’s a really good game IMO with a few issues.
Who even invests in ubisoft? If you know anything about games you would know ubisoft is crap company and if you dont know, why would you risk your money to something you have no idea about.
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Most everyone I’ve seen that actually played it seems to like it.
They’re using a trusted formula that has worked since Far Cry 3 from 12 years ago. It’s fun but it’s not going to turn a lot of heads. Many just wish they would try something different.
They were dumb enough to buy a AAA title on launch so…
Yeah… fuck them for enjoying a game, right? The nerve of some people. Why didn’t they take your feelings into account?
They’re welcome to, I just don’t trust their judgement.
And I don’t trust the judgement of someone panning something they haven’t even played.
At least it’s logical.
The Venn Diagram of “people still spending that much money on a game” and “people that are easy to please” seems to be a circle. Maybe something to do with a sunk-cost-fallacy coupled with the “social proof” stuff?
But I don’t know the game. Maybe it’s okay.
Yeah I don’t really get all the hate. Is it the greatest game ever? No not even a little. Is it good though? Yeah I think so. The combat isn’t all that deep but I’m mostly enjoying it for the writing and world building. It also helps that it’s a gorgeous game.
That being said I can’t see paying full price for it. I subscribed to ubisoft + for it and plan on canceling once I’m done with it. Playing it that way makes it cheaper than a ticket to the movies but for way more hours of pretty star wars locales.
I’m really glad I got it. No regrets at all. Solid gameplay and Fantastic atmosphere. Yesterday I played a mini mission which was sharing a meal with your little companion. Awesome.
Yeah. I’m really looking forward to it.
There seems to be a TikTok campaign where certain people desperately want players to hate this game. I keep seeing this same skinny wispy-bearded dude over & over shitting on the game.
I keep seeing the videos, and what I watch just makes me say “It honestly doesn’t look bad to me.”
Same.
Get fucked ubisoft
Well, I’m having a really good time with it. It’s nothing groundbreaking, but it is really tight and enjoyable. It’s a lot like an Uncharted in Space RPG. In both that regard, and it’s gameplay.
I feel like lukewarm is the best Ubisoft has managed in about a decade now so seems like it should have been within expectations.
I’ve been enjoying Far Cry 3 even with the multiplayer servers shut down. Did they ever make another game that isn’t also Far Cry 3?
There’s Rayman legends
That newer Prince of Persia game was supposedly good
Which is so underrated, I’d put it as better than any of the recent 2D Mario games. Years later and Mario Wonder doesn’t even come close to the music levels in Rayman Legends.
I personally prefer origins but legends is still a great game
The new Prince of Persia roguelike is pretty good, although I’ve hit a wall recently and am too stubborn to look up a walkthrough. Lots of fun otherwise, though.
And only because it’s not by them, but by the team behind dead cells.
People give Anno 1800 too little credit, other than that I agree.
Anno sure is great, sadly it’s not on a platform I’m willing to play on.
Best anno was on Wii.
Phoenix rising was a pretty good ancient Greek BOTW experience. Best game they put out in 2020. Better thrash Valhalla or WD Legion
It was okay but it never motivated me enough to actually finish it.
I thought it was fine but it could have been great had it understood why people actually liked BOTW. The idea that you can just highlight every object in a 1km radius around you completely kills exploration, you’re incentivized to just go from map marker to map marker instead of actually exploring the world.
Legion was such a disappointment… I still regularly go back and play WD1 just because it has a great vibe.
Did Child of Light come out within the last decade?
This was a beautiful game. I think it was also one of the only games I have ever accidentally 100% completed.
July 2024, just barely outside of 10yrs ago.
Yes, I believe all the UbiArt games did. I would defend all three of those and wish they didn’t slip into the wind
I mean it’s the first time in a long time someone other than EA got the star wars licence, and they make a bland, unexciting game. I can’t imagine Disney is very happy.
No. They haven’t. It’s a solid ARPG with a few neat new mechanics. It’s not groundbreaking, but it’s really well made and fun.
If it’s bland and unexciting then it fits very well into Disney Star Wars and Disney should be very happy about it being so on brand.
Yeah, my understanding is Disney is partially at fault for a lot of these flops. I don’t think they’d make a KOTOR or Jedi Knight game.
Wish they didn’t break up Lucas Arts. What a waste of a great studio.
I dunno, I’ve played about 8 hours of SW:O and it’s genuinely fun. It’s not a crazy advancement of the genre, but not every game has to be. IMO it’s a very solid open world RPG without all the usual Ubisoft BS.
Not releasing your new game on the largest game market in the world is a bold choice as well.
Damn, it’s down 45% over the last year as well. They seem to have released a few flops recently; and their notable IPs kinda just aren’t exciting anymore.
Turns out you can only recycle the same garbage full of bugs so many times before people get bored of it
It’s all been downhill since AC Origins
Wait till Assassin’s Creed Shadows flops miserably. Ubisoft is a couple of € billions in debt.
I only hope they release Anno 117 and new HoM&M before they fail completely.
I want a m&m mmo.
Shadows is them getting desperate. That game had been requested and expected since the ezio storyline when they came for him. Instead they released a side scroller and didn’t think twice about it. Now they’re struggling immensely and are trying to recover. I really want it to flop to hopefully drive a nail in the coffin.
Great. EA should be next but sports games fans won’t let it happen.
It doesn’t help that they have said a lot of just straight up anti-consumer stuff in the last year.
Pivoting into NFTs didn’t help.
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Wow, if I ignored everything that was posted outside of Lemmy, I would have thought this was a great game that everyone should be buying.
Good thing I knew this would flop. Its especially funny considering Outlaws’ marketing campaign was Ubisoft most expensive marketing campaign ever.
I had never heard of this game until about three days ago
Opposite experience for me. Outside of lemmy, it seems people actually like it. I was destroyed by downvotes for simply suggesting that it’s a nuanced topic to flame a game on its day one release.
The sad part is that it’s a fun game. The company rep and horrible pricing structure set them up for failure. Release this on steam for $60 and I think it would do great. It doesn’t have all the Ubisoft BS like tons of micro transactions or a million map icons. It was a really good direction shift that they just wouldn’t let succeed.
I bought it on PS5 and I’m having fun playing it. Sure, it doesn’t do anything new, the gameplay is very familiar and the enemy AI is dumb as rocks, but you get to play in the Star Wars universe, the locations look great and the story so far seems decent enough (although I’m not that far into the game yet).
Not every meal needs to be a 3 Michelin star gourmet affair, sometimes having a Big Mac with fries is perfectly fine.
Well said!
This is a $70 game with a ‘season pass’ and the ultimate edition is $130. That’s hardly big mac price.
For me it was €79 (gotta love that VAT).
Still, considering the hours of entertainment I’ll get out of it, the price-per-hour feels reasonable to me compared to other forms of entertainment.
What about compared to other video games?
Edit: even putting hundreds into rocket league its still a better deal, so how does this game add up to a good deal?
If this game takes me 40 hours to complete at a price point of $70 that’s $1.75 an hour to be entertained. That’s not bad value at all IMO. And seeing how I’ll prob take longer doing side missions and such I see that going to under a dollar an hour. Not a ton you can do on a rainy day that will keep you entertained for less than that.
It seems to line up with a lot of other open world games for me. I’m not saying this is an amazing value, I just don’t see it as a bad value.
Yeah thats fair, although ubisoft tends to slash the price of their games very quickly, but thats not to say its still not worth it now for you.
What can I say, value is subjective, but at least to me it’s not what I would describe as Big Mac pricing.
I don’t think you really understand what you’re saying because this is an even bigger insult to Outlaws than anything I have ever said about the game.
Imagine a food served by a restaurant claiming to have 4 Michelin stars (Outlaws is a AAAA game -made up thing just like 4 Michelin stars- afterall) being compared to a Big Mac. That’s hilarious.
I think you missed the point.
I think that’s kind of a shame.
I don’t care for Ubisofts bland and lazy open world design formula, but SW:O appears to not do a lot of the usual open world BS that they’re known for.
I only get this from Skillup’s review and he had a host of problems with gameplay, but I also got the sense that this is a game that will be remembered fondly by a subset of the star wars fandom.
Hopefully the lesson that Ubi learns isn’t “see, we should stick with what works. Another generic open world Assassins Creed RPG-Lite”.
I think you and I both know that’s exactly what they’re going to do.
I hurts me how bad SW:O did for that very reason. There’s no XP, there’s no tower in each zone to unlock or whatever. It’s a really good game IMO with a few issues.
It’s just a shame that some of the biggest of those issues appear to be fundamental game mechanics.
Really good looking game graphically, though.
And fun IMO. It seems like a lot of people who actually played it looked it.
Who even invests in ubisoft? If you know anything about games you would know ubisoft is crap company and if you dont know, why would you risk your money to something you have no idea about.
Have you heard of GME?
They put a cash shop even on their single player games, must be a good return on investment.
Investors don’t invest based on the quality of games they put out, they invest on how much profit they make.
At least they actually make games. If the only 2 gaming companies you know are EA and Ubisoft, I see how Ubisoft can look good.