Not specifically SW: Outlaws, but they were given something that previously only EA made meh games with, and they decided to also make a meh game. Ubisoft really likes their meh games. See also: Assassin’s Creed #25, coming out this year!
And even EA made some decent games with the IP. I loved Jedi Fallen Order. Haven’t played Jedi survivor yet but from what I’ve gathered, it’s definitely not a total flop and even Battlefront 2-2 was decent enough.
I loved Fallen Order and I loved Survivor even more. It’s the perfect follow up to Fallen Order. At launch it had quite some issues tho, which is why it wasn’t received well. Not sure how much better it is now since I never really had issues to begin with.
I’ll definitely play Jedi Survivor (as soon as I get around to upgrading my graphics card to something that can actually play the game).
I might try outlaws once it’s on clearance or so. But as someone who hated most of what Ubisoft did in the last few years (they ruined my beloved Assassin‘s Creed and made a mockery out of Watch_Dogs), I will stay sceptical.
I mean it’s the first time in a long time someone other than EA got the star wars licence, and they make a bland, unexciting game. I can’t imagine Disney is very happy.
I dunno, I’ve played about 8 hours of SW:O and it’s genuinely fun. It’s not a crazy advancement of the genre, but not every game has to be. IMO it’s a very solid open world RPG without all the usual Ubisoft BS.
They’re using a trusted formula that has worked since Far Cry 3 from 12 years ago. It’s fun but it’s not going to turn a lot of heads. Many just wish they would try something different.
There seems to be a TikTok campaign where certain people desperately want players to hate this game. I keep seeing this same skinny wispy-bearded dude over & over shitting on the game.
I keep seeing the videos, and what I watch just makes me say “It honestly doesn’t look bad to me.”
The Venn Diagram of “people still spending that much money on a game” and “people that are easy to please” seems to be a circle. Maybe something to do with a sunk-cost-fallacy coupled with the “social proof” stuff?
Yeah I don’t really get all the hate. Is it the greatest game ever? No not even a little. Is it good though? Yeah I think so. The combat isn’t all that deep but I’m mostly enjoying it for the writing and world building. It also helps that it’s a gorgeous game.
That being said I can’t see paying full price for it. I subscribed to ubisoft + for it and plan on canceling once I’m done with it. Playing it that way makes it cheaper than a ticket to the movies but for way more hours of pretty star wars locales.
I’m really glad I got it. No regrets at all. Solid gameplay and Fantastic atmosphere. Yesterday I played a mini mission which was sharing a meal with your little companion. Awesome.
Well, I’m having a really good time with it. It’s nothing groundbreaking, but it is really tight and enjoyable. It’s a lot like an Uncharted in Space RPG. In both that regard, and it’s gameplay.
Damn, it’s down 45% over the last year as well. They seem to have released a few flops recently; and their notable IPs kinda just aren’t exciting anymore.
Shadows is them getting desperate. That game had been requested and expected since the ezio storyline when they came for him. Instead they released a side scroller and didn’t think twice about it. Now they’re struggling immensely and are trying to recover. I really want it to flop to hopefully drive a nail in the coffin.
I bought it on PS5 and I’m having fun playing it. Sure, it doesn’t do anything new, the gameplay is very familiar and the enemy AI is dumb as rocks, but you get to play in the Star Wars universe, the locations look great and the story so far seems decent enough (although I’m not that far into the game yet).
Not every meal needs to be a 3 Michelin star gourmet affair, sometimes having a Big Mac with fries is perfectly fine.
If this game takes me 40 hours to complete at a price point of $70 that’s $1.75 an hour to be entertained. That’s not bad value at all IMO. And seeing how I’ll prob take longer doing side missions and such I see that going to under a dollar an hour. Not a ton you can do on a rainy day that will keep you entertained for less than that.
It seems to line up with a lot of other open world games for me. I’m not saying this is an amazing value, I just don’t see it as a bad value.
Not every meal meeds to be a 3 Michelin star gourmet affair, sometimes having a Big Mac with fries is perfectly fine.
I don’t think you really understand what you’re saying because this is an even bigger insult to Outlaws than anything I have ever said about the game.
Imagine a food served by a restaurant claiming to have 4 Michelin stars (Outlaws is a AAAA game -made up thing just like 4 Michelin stars- afterall) being compared to a Big Mac. That’s hilarious.
Opposite experience for me. Outside of lemmy, it seems people actually like it. I was destroyed by downvotes for simply suggesting that it’s a nuanced topic to flame a game on its day one release.
The sad part is that it’s a fun game. The company rep and horrible pricing structure set them up for failure. Release this on steam for $60 and I think it would do great. It doesn’t have all the Ubisoft BS like tons of micro transactions or a million map icons. It was a really good direction shift that they just wouldn’t let succeed.
I don’t care for Ubisofts bland and lazy open world design formula, but SW:O appears to not do a lot of the usual open world BS that they’re known for.
I only get this from Skillup’s review and he had a host of problems with gameplay, but I also got the sense that this is a game that will be remembered fondly by a subset of the star wars fandom.
Hopefully the lesson that Ubi learns isn’t “see, we should stick with what works. Another generic open world Assassins Creed RPG-Lite”.
I hurts me how bad SW:O did for that very reason. There’s no XP, there’s no tower in each zone to unlock or whatever. It’s a really good game IMO with a few issues.
Who even invests in ubisoft? If you know anything about games you would know ubisoft is crap company and if you dont know, why would you risk your money to something you have no idea about.
Maybe don’t charge $145 for a digital product. Maybe charge $50, and sell it to 5x the people. It quite literally costs nothing (okay, pedantically, the tiniest fraction) to sell more units.
I’d play an okay Star Wars game for $50 day 1. Wouldn’t you?
And then when it goes on sale, loads of people would pay $20 on a 60% sale price next year. Whose paying $60 at a 60% off sale for a year old okay Star Wars game? No one. Not one soul.
Oh, you can get it cheaper for subscribing to Ubisoft+. Fuck off with that bullshit, do you even hear yourself?
Ok, I’ll prob get roasted for this but hear me out.
I think Ubisoft+ is great. I can get the whatever $500 mega platinum edition for like $15 if I can beat it that month. Or even if I take 2 months to beat it, I’ve only spent $30 which is less then a base game. Then you unsub and wait for the next game you’re interested in.
Yup, and I’ll wait for it be 20 bucks or less on steam, unless it’s like the last one which could have been a dlc for the one before it. If that’s the case, I’ll pass since I didn’t make it half way through the last one because it was boring.
Well for what it’s worth, I’m really liking it a lot. It may be fast food gaming, but I think I’d at least compare this one more to Shake Shack than McDonald’s. It’s surprisingly thoughtful in it’s details.
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Yeah it’s definitely star wars outlaws guys
Not specifically SW: Outlaws, but they were given something that previously only EA made meh games with, and they decided to also make a meh game. Ubisoft really likes their meh games. See also: Assassin’s Creed #25, coming out this year!
And even EA made some decent games with the IP. I loved Jedi Fallen Order. Haven’t played Jedi survivor yet but from what I’ve gathered, it’s definitely not a total flop and even Battlefront 2-2 was decent enough.
I loved Fallen Order and I loved Survivor even more. It’s the perfect follow up to Fallen Order. At launch it had quite some issues tho, which is why it wasn’t received well. Not sure how much better it is now since I never really had issues to begin with.
Jedi Survivor is awesome. If you liked the first you’ll love that one.
Even outlaws isn’t bad, it gives me Jedi Survivor feels but more stealth and crime.
I’ll definitely play Jedi Survivor (as soon as I get around to upgrading my graphics card to something that can actually play the game).
I might try outlaws once it’s on clearance or so. But as someone who hated most of what Ubisoft did in the last few years (they ruined my beloved Assassin‘s Creed and made a mockery out of Watch_Dogs), I will stay sceptical.
Never forget what was taken from us.
I don’t get why? It’s a great game
Doesn’t seem to be available on Steam and they’re already pushing a season pass.
I mean it’s the first time in a long time someone other than EA got the star wars licence, and they make a bland, unexciting game. I can’t imagine Disney is very happy.
I dunno, I’ve played about 8 hours of SW:O and it’s genuinely fun. It’s not a crazy advancement of the genre, but not every game has to be. IMO it’s a very solid open world RPG without all the usual Ubisoft BS.
No. They haven’t. It’s a solid ARPG with a few neat new mechanics. It’s not groundbreaking, but it’s really well made and fun.
If it’s bland and unexciting then it fits very well into Disney Star Wars and Disney should be very happy about it being so on brand.
Yeah, my understanding is Disney is partially at fault for a lot of these flops. I don’t think they’d make a KOTOR or Jedi Knight game.
Wish they didn’t break up Lucas Arts. What a waste of a great studio.
Most everyone I’ve seen that actually played it seems to like it.
They were dumb enough to buy a AAA title on launch so…
Yeah… fuck them for enjoying a game, right? The nerve of some people. Why didn’t they take your feelings into account?
They’re welcome to, I just don’t trust their judgement.
And I don’t trust the judgement of someone panning something they haven’t even played.
At least it’s logical.
They’re using a trusted formula that has worked since Far Cry 3 from 12 years ago. It’s fun but it’s not going to turn a lot of heads. Many just wish they would try something different.
There seems to be a TikTok campaign where certain people desperately want players to hate this game. I keep seeing this same skinny wispy-bearded dude over & over shitting on the game.
I keep seeing the videos, and what I watch just makes me say “It honestly doesn’t look bad to me.”
Same.
The Venn Diagram of “people still spending that much money on a game” and “people that are easy to please” seems to be a circle. Maybe something to do with a sunk-cost-fallacy coupled with the “social proof” stuff?
But I don’t know the game. Maybe it’s okay.
Yeah I don’t really get all the hate. Is it the greatest game ever? No not even a little. Is it good though? Yeah I think so. The combat isn’t all that deep but I’m mostly enjoying it for the writing and world building. It also helps that it’s a gorgeous game.
That being said I can’t see paying full price for it. I subscribed to ubisoft + for it and plan on canceling once I’m done with it. Playing it that way makes it cheaper than a ticket to the movies but for way more hours of pretty star wars locales.
I’m really glad I got it. No regrets at all. Solid gameplay and Fantastic atmosphere. Yesterday I played a mini mission which was sharing a meal with your little companion. Awesome.
Yeah. I’m really looking forward to it.
Not releasing your new game on the largest game market in the world is a bold choice as well.
Well, I’m having a really good time with it. It’s nothing groundbreaking, but it is really tight and enjoyable. It’s a lot like an Uncharted in Space RPG. In both that regard, and it’s gameplay.
Damn, it’s down 45% over the last year as well. They seem to have released a few flops recently; and their notable IPs kinda just aren’t exciting anymore.
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Wait till Assassin’s Creed Shadows flops miserably. Ubisoft is a couple of € billions in debt.
I only hope they release Anno 117 and new HoM&M before they fail completely.
I want a m&m mmo.
Shadows is them getting desperate. That game had been requested and expected since the ezio storyline when they came for him. Instead they released a side scroller and didn’t think twice about it. Now they’re struggling immensely and are trying to recover. I really want it to flop to hopefully drive a nail in the coffin.
It doesn’t help that they have said a lot of just straight up anti-consumer stuff in the last year.
Pivoting into NFTs didn’t help.
Turns out you can only recycle the same garbage full of bugs so many times before people get bored of it
It’s all been downhill since AC Origins
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Wow, if I ignored everything that was posted outside of Lemmy, I would have thought this was a great game that everyone should be buying.
Good thing I knew this would flop. Its especially funny considering Outlaws’ marketing campaign was Ubisoft most expensive marketing campaign ever.
I bought it on PS5 and I’m having fun playing it. Sure, it doesn’t do anything new, the gameplay is very familiar and the enemy AI is dumb as rocks, but you get to play in the Star Wars universe, the locations look great and the story so far seems decent enough (although I’m not that far into the game yet).
Not every meal needs to be a 3 Michelin star gourmet affair, sometimes having a Big Mac with fries is perfectly fine.
This is a $70 game with a ‘season pass’ and the ultimate edition is $130. That’s hardly big mac price.
For me it was €79 (gotta love that VAT).
Still, considering the hours of entertainment I’ll get out of it, the price-per-hour feels reasonable to me compared to other forms of entertainment.
What can I say, value is subjective, but at least to me it’s not what I would describe as Big Mac pricing.
What about compared to other video games?
Edit: even putting hundreds into rocket league its still a better deal, so how does this game add up to a good deal?
If this game takes me 40 hours to complete at a price point of $70 that’s $1.75 an hour to be entertained. That’s not bad value at all IMO. And seeing how I’ll prob take longer doing side missions and such I see that going to under a dollar an hour. Not a ton you can do on a rainy day that will keep you entertained for less than that.
It seems to line up with a lot of other open world games for me. I’m not saying this is an amazing value, I just don’t see it as a bad value.
Yeah thats fair, although ubisoft tends to slash the price of their games very quickly, but thats not to say its still not worth it now for you.
Well said!
I don’t think you really understand what you’re saying because this is an even bigger insult to Outlaws than anything I have ever said about the game.
Imagine a food served by a restaurant claiming to have 4 Michelin stars (Outlaws is a AAAA game -made up thing just like 4 Michelin stars- afterall) being compared to a Big Mac. That’s hilarious.
I think you missed the point.
Opposite experience for me. Outside of lemmy, it seems people actually like it. I was destroyed by downvotes for simply suggesting that it’s a nuanced topic to flame a game on its day one release.
The sad part is that it’s a fun game. The company rep and horrible pricing structure set them up for failure. Release this on steam for $60 and I think it would do great. It doesn’t have all the Ubisoft BS like tons of micro transactions or a million map icons. It was a really good direction shift that they just wouldn’t let succeed.
I had never heard of this game until about three days ago
I think that’s kind of a shame.
I don’t care for Ubisofts bland and lazy open world design formula, but SW:O appears to not do a lot of the usual open world BS that they’re known for.
I only get this from Skillup’s review and he had a host of problems with gameplay, but I also got the sense that this is a game that will be remembered fondly by a subset of the star wars fandom.
Hopefully the lesson that Ubi learns isn’t “see, we should stick with what works. Another generic open world Assassins Creed RPG-Lite”.
I think you and I both know that’s exactly what they’re going to do.
I hurts me how bad SW:O did for that very reason. There’s no XP, there’s no tower in each zone to unlock or whatever. It’s a really good game IMO with a few issues.
It’s just a shame that some of the biggest of those issues appear to be fundamental game mechanics.
Wait, it’s already out?
Really good looking game graphically, though.
And fun IMO. It seems like a lot of people who actually played it looked it.
Who even invests in ubisoft? If you know anything about games you would know ubisoft is crap company and if you dont know, why would you risk your money to something you have no idea about.
They put a cash shop even on their single player games, must be a good return on investment.
Investors don’t invest based on the quality of games they put out, they invest on how much profit they make.
At least they actually make games. If the only 2 gaming companies you know are EA and Ubisoft, I see how Ubisoft can look good.
Have you heard of GME?
Ubisoft! What a joke!
Maybe don’t charge $145 for a digital product. Maybe charge $50, and sell it to 5x the people. It quite literally costs nothing (okay, pedantically, the tiniest fraction) to sell more units.
I’d play an okay Star Wars game for $50 day 1. Wouldn’t you?
And then when it goes on sale, loads of people would pay $20 on a 60% sale price next year. Whose paying $60 at a 60% off sale for a year old okay Star Wars game? No one. Not one soul.
Oh, you can get it cheaper for subscribing to Ubisoft+. Fuck off with that bullshit, do you even hear yourself?
“Want to automatically purchase more mediocrity on a regular basis? Subscribe and save!”
Ok, I’ll prob get roasted for this but hear me out.
I think Ubisoft+ is great. I can get the whatever $500 mega platinum edition for like $15 if I can beat it that month. Or even if I take 2 months to beat it, I’ve only spent $30 which is less then a base game. Then you unsub and wait for the next game you’re interested in.
Not gonna roast you or downvote you, as that does seem to be a use case. Just not one that would work for me, since I replay games frequently.
Honestly the last Ubisoft title I think I played was AC: Black Flag, and that was cause, pirates.
You must’ve been super excited about the AAAA spin-off where they removed boarding.
…the base game is $69.99 like all other recent AAA games.
Yup, and I’ll wait for it be 20 bucks or less on steam, unless it’s like the last one which could have been a dlc for the one before it. If that’s the case, I’ll pass since I didn’t make it half way through the last one because it was boring.
Well for what it’s worth, I’m really liking it a lot. It may be fast food gaming, but I think I’d at least compare this one more to Shake Shack than McDonald’s. It’s surprisingly thoughtful in it’s details.