Most people don’t need the newest and expensive tech. From the last 30 days of active games on Playstation brand, here a split PS3/PS4/PS5 (I just show a ratio that is set in relation to the numbers of players for the game), meaning left side is older console:
Edit: I have added simple math result in how many times the PS4 player base is big as the PS5 player base. Just out of curiosity and to provide a quicker way of scanning through the list.
(**ps3 players almost at 0 level for this game)
As you can see, all games are available for PS4 and they run decent enough, are multiplayer games and the new consoles do not offer anything substantial for these kind of players.
If they would make them backwards compatible I would be more likely to upgrade it still bugs me that they stopped doing that. I miss my old PS3. That thing was awesome I even installed Linux on it and had emulators working… the good old days.
Yeah my mistake. It is with ps3 games. My default is to think everything is terrible now. It wouldn’t be that hard to support back to ps1 I’d pay extra for the option.
It’s like all we heard about the PS5 was that it was super hard to get when it came out and then it kind of disappeared from our collective consciousness
I’ve seen them stocked in my local stores for the past year. The Xbox series X/S as well. I kinda thought it was like that everywhere now? Are they really still sold out and being scalped for crazy mark up prices where you live?
XBox has always been a weird console. It never really competes with Nintendo because NIntendo always does its own general thing and also slides neatly into the kids and family market. So it competes with Playstation by default. Except Playstation actually has contracts with good studios to make exclusive games. What’s a non-Halo exclusive for the XBox? Back in the day, you’d play games like Gears of War, Halo (obviously), Fallout 3, Psychonauts, KOTOR, COD, etc. I can’t think of a single meaningful game on the most recent generation for the XBox.
I could have waited it out probably another 2-3 years if I wasn’t gifted one. Still have LOTS of PS4 titles I’ve been meaning to play. In fact, most of the games I play on my PS5 are PS4 games.
I currently have my original PlayStation (PS1) which is more like a classic version of the brand.
I still have a decent collection of games for it but I seldom use it out of sentiment for the PS5 being a failure from what I’ve been reading about it.
Yeah, but at the same time it makes the PS4 games a much better experience. I dunno if that justifies the spend for a lot of people, but I don’t regret getting one.
IMO improving graphics technology is a case of diminishing returns. Sure you can always make a better looking game by throwing more processing power at it, but that has (at best) a minor effect on things like gameplay and story. Like seriously, if Squenix had decided to make FF7: Rebirth in the PS3 era, other then some uglier graphics how much would the game have have been different?
And (to actually tie this in to the thread) that’s the reason PS5 sales have been so sluggish. What do you really need those PS5 graphics for? I mean my PC is still running hardware from 5-10 years ago, because there isn’t anything I really need to upgrade for. Most of what I’ve been playing is indy titles and for the few graphic intensive games I want to play they’ll usually run if I lower some graphics settings.
Exactly this. I’ll always maintain a game will be and will remain prettier is an artistic style than an ultra realistic style. It just takes up resources that could be used elsewhere for the sake of looking pretty for the next 3-5 years before the “Uhh muh Guuhhhhd, it looks so realistic” ages like milk. Games like Wind Waker and Okami still look gorgeous today.
And Nintendo proved this right by making successful games on underpowered systems. The switch it’s basically an Android tablet from last decade sold with crazy markup but talented game designers make compelling games
Sure, in the store they have 3rd party do lazy shitty ports like this https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/jello-run-switch/ but I feel it has more interesting games than the photorealistic ones on PS5, except the masterpieces by insomniac studio, but those can also be played on PS4 or PC
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here comes ps6
Most people don’t need the newest and expensive tech. From the last 30 days of active games on Playstation brand, here a split
PS3/PS4/PS5(I just show a ratio that is set in relation to the numbers of players for the game), meaning left side is older console:https://ps-timetracker.com/statistic/last-30-days
- / 42 / 14Fortnite (3 times)- / 3 / 2Roblox (1.5 times)0 / 33 / 9Minecraft** (3.7 times)- / 14 / 9Cod:MW2 (1.6 times)- / 38 / 12GTA V (3.2 times)- / 23 / 8Rainbow Siege (2.9 times)- / 26 / 8Apex Legends (3.3 times)- / 17 / 7Overwatch 2 (2.4 times)- / 1 / 1EA Sports FC 24 (1 time)Edit: I have added simple math result in how many times the PS4 player base is big as the PS5 player base. Just out of curiosity and to provide a quicker way of scanning through the list.
(**ps3 players almost at 0 level for this game)
As you can see, all games are available for PS4 and they run decent enough, are multiplayer games and the new consoles do not offer anything substantial for these kind of players.
If they would make them backwards compatible I would be more likely to upgrade it still bugs me that they stopped doing that. I miss my old PS3. That thing was awesome I even installed Linux on it and had emulators working… the good old days.
I have appreciated the backwards compatibility of my Xbox. The studio closures and dearth of games, less so
Get a PS5 and become less than appreciative about bad backwards compatibility AND studio closures.
It is backwards compatible, though?
Yeah my mistake. It is with ps3 games. My default is to think everything is terrible now. It wouldn’t be that hard to support back to ps1 I’d pay extra for the option.
You can (and I have) play PS4 games on PS5.
First thing I did when I got the PS5 was buy a bunch of cheap used PS4 games for it.
I didn’t realize I was assuming that was over. Well good on them. Long live the used game market!
All the games are in both consoles. If amything, it’s dragging down PS5 ppl.
Surely they’re all just waiting for the PS5 pro? That will solve it! /s
Or, seriously, a PS5 slim. (Actually slim, not the slight redesign they did.)
I play, like, fine games. In very irregular binges. Why the fuck would I shill out 500 Euros, to raise my binges’ fps?
I still have a PS2…
It’s like all we heard about the PS5 was that it was super hard to get when it came out and then it kind of disappeared from our collective consciousness
It is still super hard to get
I’ve seen them stocked in my local stores for the past year. The Xbox series X/S as well. I kinda thought it was like that everywhere now? Are they really still sold out and being scalped for crazy mark up prices where you live?
You are right, I haven’t checked for a while, I thought it was still unavailable. I ordered one yesterday.
Yeah that and it’s still super expensive and does not have system sellers for me. Eg. Uncharted.
Also I don’t need another PC, thank you.
And it’s still out selling the Xbox…
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/05/15/analysts-ps5-outsold-xbox-almost-5-to-1-this-past-quarter/?sh=7b1813f72539
XBox has always been a weird console. It never really competes with Nintendo because NIntendo always does its own general thing and also slides neatly into the kids and family market. So it competes with Playstation by default. Except Playstation actually has contracts with good studios to make exclusive games. What’s a non-Halo exclusive for the XBox? Back in the day, you’d play games like Gears of War, Halo (obviously), Fallout 3, Psychonauts, KOTOR, COD, etc. I can’t think of a single meaningful game on the most recent generation for the XBox.
One of my favorites was Project Gotham, but they shuttered that studio in favor of Forza which just isn’t as good.
Fuck exclusives.
It did? Who’s collective consciousness are you attached to? It’s a huge fucking hit.
Well, the numbers show otherwise.
Oh I see. I recognize your smell. It’s bullshit.
For me, it was:
You couldn’t get one for ages when it came out, so I missed the initial hype period.
When it did finally become available, it was prohibitively expensive.
There are no real killer exclusives or features so no particular reason to upgrade, aside from games looking nicer.
Sony is releasing all the good stuff on PC now, so if I want to play a nicer-looking version of a PS4 game I can just do that.
Steam Deck
I could have waited it out probably another 2-3 years if I wasn’t gifted one. Still have LOTS of PS4 titles I’ve been meaning to play. In fact, most of the games I play on my PS5 are PS4 games.
it has no games and was plagued by availability/price issues for a BIG while there.
why should anyone buy it?
Blind fanboyism?
I said I wish I hadn’t purchased the PS5 due to the poor library of games in comparison to the PS4 era on Reddit. Proceeded to get downvotes.
I currently have my original PlayStation (PS1) which is more like a classic version of the brand.
I still have a decent collection of games for it but I seldom use it out of sentiment for the PS5 being a failure from what I’ve been reading about it.
So technically I have a PlayStation in this case.
My ps5 is basically a really big PS4 lately.
It also doesn’t help that a bunch of games have an upgrade charge, I mostly just use it for Blu-ray lately.
Yeah, but at the same time it makes the PS4 games a much better experience. I dunno if that justifies the spend for a lot of people, but I don’t regret getting one.
I upgraded to PC running Linux instead
IMO improving graphics technology is a case of diminishing returns. Sure you can always make a better looking game by throwing more processing power at it, but that has (at best) a minor effect on things like gameplay and story. Like seriously, if Squenix had decided to make FF7: Rebirth in the PS3 era, other then some uglier graphics how much would the game have have been different?
And (to actually tie this in to the thread) that’s the reason PS5 sales have been so sluggish. What do you really need those PS5 graphics for? I mean my PC is still running hardware from 5-10 years ago, because there isn’t anything I really need to upgrade for. Most of what I’ve been playing is indy titles and for the few graphic intensive games I want to play they’ll usually run if I lower some graphics settings.
Exactly this. I’ll always maintain a game will be and will remain prettier is an artistic style than an ultra realistic style. It just takes up resources that could be used elsewhere for the sake of looking pretty for the next 3-5 years before the “Uhh muh Guuhhhhd, it looks so realistic” ages like milk. Games like Wind Waker and Okami still look gorgeous today.
And Nintendo proved this right by making successful games on underpowered systems. The switch it’s basically an Android tablet from last decade sold with crazy markup but talented game designers make compelling games
Sure, in the store they have 3rd party do lazy shitty ports like this https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/jello-run-switch/ but I feel it has more interesting games than the photorealistic ones on PS5, except the masterpieces by insomniac studio, but those can also be played on PS4 or PC