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It’s common for the government to push funds to many industries if they believe there’s a chance of growth, that private investors either won’t give enough for, or will solely benefit from. Meat, cars, farming, all get funding in the USA. Sadly, we don’t get free meat as a result.


I’m thinking a lot of them ride off of FFXIV, though it’s less visible much of the time. That game has a lot of real loyalists.


Avowed is pretty good.

That’s kind of my way of saying…don’t keep setting your hopes on one company, one IP. Brain drain is real. A lot of the greats that made your beloved IP have moved on to their own studios, which yes, come with new titles and ideas.


Besides masking loading, I think these are put in to break the pace in games. If all you’re doing is going from one fight to the next, your mind is a bit too locked in. Climbing is less effort on your mind, without making you pay attention to story.

I also found in games like Expedition 33, they help make the world feel more alive if you’re clambering through low caverns and climbing up cliffs. The way the verticality lends to better vistas is itself pretty valuable.


I remember a game called Outriders; it was a little bit of a generic RPG-shooter with abilities and a dismally apocalyptic world. I played through it, I enjoyed the campaign, but I was confused because many reviews were lamenting how “The postgame is terrible and it’s lacking content”. I didn’t really understand the point, since I just enjoyed the base elements.

I identify a bit more with Breath of the Wild’s lampshading of 100% completion, where they reward you for stumbling across a significant number of these things to find, but only hand you a golden turd for getting “ALL” of them.


I’m glad for everyone that enjoyed this game and found a meaningful experience in it. Kind of wish it could’ve been the same for me. I found the whole experience, from combat through story, to be horrendous by any standard, and quit midway through. Then someone begged me to come back and give it a full shot. So, I completEd it all thE way to the Ending, and it got even worse.

Anyway, hopefully you do enjoy it; I could probably give a full-paragraph diatribe on what didn’t work for me, but art can be very subjective.


Part of me is really confused they’re called “Endings”. Like, the “switch” after the first credits, to be vague, is the closest to that. But moving past that part, what you’re playing are “Chapters” where more stuff is happening. When you realize it’s a terminology switch, it becomes less “genre-breaking” and more just “a confusing, long game”.


Yeah, I’m confused most nostalgia veers towards the PSP, when the follow-on was fully backwards compatible. Weirdly enough, some of the best AAA blockbusters I played on the Vita were first written for the PSP.

I’m an oddity in that I never jailbroke mine. I just really enjoyed playing indie PSN games on it, since most teams releasing on PS3 and not driving a graphical powerhouse could just do a side release there.


Definitely Ace Attorney. It hits a lot of marks; it gives you the feeling of beating enemies by being clever, rather than powerful. It ties in with a sense of justice, and contains some murder mysteries that rival some of the greats of Agatha Christie with twisted, complex motives and multiple lying witnesses. It has VERY creative character designs, making each new face very memorable. Its localization team had their own sense of humor, conveyed well with how they chose to adapt many things. In spite of the humor, they often follow through with deeply emotional endings to each case.



If this is the master plan, a lot of these people might be very worried to learn about how expansive the indie sphere of gaming is across the whole world, encompassing what used to be AAA genres like 3D survival horror, platforming action games, etc.

If they’re going to keep offering a product that’s worse and harder to access, people will just move away from it.


It’s a singleplayer game, right? It’s not going to be reliant on continued “playerbase”.


Most of their effort is probably on other stuff. For instance, PAX still exists, in fact it’s next week in Boston.


What really damages me is the gaslighting. I have attempted AI many times. It is usually wrong and useless, and rarely justifies the oceans of water usage or power waste. I witness local communities struggling with utility bills every day.

And yet, I’m forced to listen to hallucinatory insistence from every form of leadership that AI is perfect, AI is the future, everyone must use AI even if it’s just to copy one file from a directory to another. I look at my coworkers and I can’t tell if I’m talking to a fucking brain worm that took them over.

And then there’s the plight of entire marketing departments turning out the most uncanny valley slop in video, and having no one among them capable of looking and seeing “This unsettles me rather than garners interest.”


I had this dilemma with Danganronpa 3.

The first case is very well structured. It transparently sets up a very easy-to-miss stinging motive for the act that happens. It distracts you in the trial, and whams you with it in a perfect way. Everything makes sense; I remember feeling impressed by the twist they pulled off.

But then, due to the outcome, I honestly had little interest in finishing the game. It was a “fitting” twist, accurate to the characters as they’d defined them, but it wasn’t a satisfying one.


You vastly overestimate how smart billionaires are. NVidia did not need to newly enter public attention. A lot of this is just pushing people towards AMD.


I’m not okay with the doomerist take. Remember Amazon Luna and Google Stadia hit huge uptake failures and the latter completely died. Raytracing was vastly overhyped and ended up being turned off by most people, basically becoming a passing trend that rarely gets turned on for some niches.

GPU SKUs tend not to move around much. The ones used for cloud streaming are built for that purpose (if you ever played Geforce Now, then entered the video settings, it’s some obscure server card). So it’s doubtful they’d have anything “sitting around”.


I feel like the theme of “The hero being disappointed with the reality of their mission” has good ways of executing that are hard-hitting rather than just dismal. Spec Ops: The Line, The Fall, Papo & Yo, and The Sexy Brutale were all great iterations of this, building up to harsh late-game revelations.


Even if implementing it is trivial, it’s also still “one more thing”. Just like optimizing for the Steam Deck, considering features that might not be on the lowest-tier console release, accessibility requirements, and dozens of other checklist items that might go further and further down the list. Worse, if DLSS ends up interfering with those other checklist items after it’s already been verified.


There’s some optimization I’d like to see on both the project planning level, and the game visuals level. Planning level, because paying 10 level designers to put together interesting ideas for a year might be a better use of $1mil than enlisting a celebrity to voice one character in your game. On the visuals level, making a game with an eye-catching, unique art style that serves the style of gameplay might work better than developing a game that makes nice screenshots but can only run on a 5090 and requires highlighting to point players to obvious gameplay elements because of all the detailed objects. (There’s a reason Doom and Quake have fans even in 2026)




I can see how it becomes difficult to implement for already-released games that already have boxed copies in stores.

I wonder if this loophole will make all games currently out MUCH more valuable to investors.


The only way to do this accurately would require the same game to release twice on two planet Earths. It gets harder when pirates are not the types to offer up their purchase data honestly and willingly, for somewhat expectable reasons.

BUT, the closest we got is an old version of FIFA (we’ll assume it was FIFA. This is an old article, and unfortunately I’m only recalling details from memory until I can locate a very old bookmark) Those games sell each year, generally just to update the roster. You’ll see many college dorms where people just stack up each year’s edition they bought because that trend doesn’t change. In the year that the publisher added Denuvo encryption, the PC sales jumped significantly. The only reasonable explanation most analysts could come to is that many PC gamers found they couldn’t pirate the game, and bought it.

It’s not perfect data, not least because I don’t have a link right now. The other murky point is that the people who need to be convinced are not gamers, but publishers. Whatever arguments we make in forums, Denuvo makes its own arguments to them behind closed doors. So far, their arguments have been convincing, enough for publishers to burn money on licenses, and it may be because they have some very valuable, and non-public, figures that make the case. The games industry is not always obligated to release full numbers to its fanbase.

I’m not trying to suggest anyone should shut up and accept Denuvo, I think a lot of the frustration is valid. But I do think it can be more nuanced than you reali3z


One thing that makes it contentious is that how much it affects performance can depend on how well it’s integrated. Some studios check every frame, to Denuvo’s disgust, and it’s a #1 issue on release. Other studios manage it a bit smarter; as you say, it’ll always affect performance at least a little. But I’ll be honest, usually my experience is fine.


For full disclosure, I remembered once someone claimed to me there are AI models that use much less power. But, to confirm that statement before replying, I looked up an investigation, and they say it’s much murkier, and that a company’s own claims are usually understating it. So, you’re on point.


To admit some context: My company has strongly encouraged some AI usage in our coding. They also encourage us to be honest about how helpful, or not, it is. Usually, I tell them it turns out a lot of garbage and once in a while helps make a lengthy task easier.

I can believe him about there being a sweet spot; where it’s not used for everything, only for processes that might have taken a night of manual checks. The very real, very reasonable backlash to it is how easily a poor management team or overconfident engineer will fall away from that sweet spot, and merge stuff that hasn’t had enough scrutiny.

Even Bernie Sanders acknowledged on the senate floor that in a perfect world, where AI is owned by people invested in world benefit, moderate AI use could improve many people’s lives. It’s just sad that in 99.9% of cases, we’re not anywhere near that perfect world.

I don’t totally blame the dev for defending his use of AI backed by industry experience, if he’s still careful about it. But I also don’t blame people who don’t trust it. It’s kind of his call, and if the avoidance of AI is important enough to you, I’d say fork it. I think it’s a small red flag, but not nearly enough of one for me to condemn the project.


I’m not a big fan of Valve’s use of loot boxes. But I’m also not happy about the proposed solution of “Just collect blood samples from all users”. That doesn’t protect kids, and risks harm and increased surveillance to many other users. It also means companies in similar situations to Valve are forced to safeguard data they didn’t want to be involved with.

I don’t buy that Valve is fully at fault on the concept of targeting children. I don’t see how parents are held at gunpoint to attach credit card data to Steam accounts, or to check the “remember my info” box. Valve has also attempted to add adequate parental account controls. The main reason I oppose Valve on loot boxes is those shouldn’t be used on anyone. I’d like the NYAG to equalize pressure on sports betting sites.


I feel like the Lemmy description should retain the double quotation marks, since they often indicate “…so said a deceitful snake oil salesman.”


I can imagine a lot of heartache and contention around where one lands with this. But I gotta be honest, my favorite Japanese properties are the ones where the translators took a lot of liberties and flexed some writing chops to make the most flavorful expression of something that fit what the creator was going for.

There’s a lot of Japanese/Chinese mystery games where suspects blend together because I can’t remember which person is Yuang Ho or Ryuiki Takachi. But I’ll always remember that in Ace Attorney, I play as Phoenix Wright, and am cross examining suspicious man Frank Sahwit. The cultural relevance of the changed names improves context learning. The series has been mocked for its adjustments, but I like them.

Other weird moments of creativity came from the dubbing team that did Ghost Stories as an “abridged series”, and the Trails in the Sky localizers that found a string table that duplicated “The chest is empty” for each treasure chest in the game, and decided to make each one a ridiculous message.

On the other end, there’s moments like the infamous quote in Rhapsody. The parentheses are part of it.

This is WhiteSnow, a town filled with snow. Enjoy the world of snow. (Note: This is what happens when you do a direct translation.)


They were probably relying on obnoxious Windows 11 install prompts to carry most of the fight there.

Sadly, in my case it just moved me to Linux…


I have REALLY gotten sick of the “git gud” crowd.

I’ve recently been playing Tormented Souls 2. It has a good number of weapons to it, but some contention about ammo scarcity. I pointed out that while using your melee weapon on enemies, and using iframes, is technically viable, even if you’re really good at it, it becomes really samey and boring.

Someone immediately jumped on me as having a “skill issue”, and copy-pasting the generic “developer shouldn’t be forced to make the game your way” argument from every Dark Souls discussion.

Somehow, difficulty has become so entwined with masculine ego that people cannot seem to judge criticism of a game that has anything to do with its specific level of challenge.


We seriously need to give up on the sarcastic, parodic pro-capitalist games, and go back to ripping heads off of virtual fascists.


Same with Roguelikes. To try to tune up their playtime, they always seem to ramp up the difficulty curve to hell and back. I’m okay with games that eventually get hard as you adjust to mechanics, but so many of them just frontload giant walls of difficulty and insisting you need to “find the right abusive build”.

I’ve had the Roguelike tag blocked on Steam, only picked up a few that were able to market themselves past that aspect.


I’m not incredibly invested in the story or whatever father/daughter dynamic the game implies, but I did kind of enjoy the gunplay and the boss fight presented in the demo. Still, I haven’t been invested much into full-price games lately, saving what I can to help the myriad global victims of Project 2025, so no matter how good a job they did on this one, I’ll probably wait for a sale.


It’s a good point around the recent CA age verification laws: Sensitive data (is this user a potential target for predators?) can’t be leaked if it was never recorded in the first place.


A streamer I like has been playing Avowed. It’s different in a lot of ways, and on modern detail levels it ends up being smaller, but I feel like it was maybe a bit over-criticized by players.


I guess if we define it loosely I know of a few of those now. Baby Steps, and Easy Delivery Co are simple games about getting around, with some terrain challenges.


Introducing a niche, unheard indie game by a small, unknown team: The Witcher 3!


I wouldn’t even agree with the idea that “Mobile is powering most of gaming’s growth”. Quite often, the two sectors have nothing to do with each other. For the most part, PC and console gaming has stagnated because the publishers controlling those spaces have flipped off their customers and given them nothing.


That’s what I saw out of it. Being attacked by non-zombies trying to rush you makes for an extremely disconcerting look. I can’t help but think the dev pictured themselves in that situation.


What digital indie games would you like to see at libraries?
The prompt for this one might seem wildly unexpected. To start with: Yes, some libraries let people borrow video games. Generally, the easiest system for them is just to buy Switch / Playstation carts/discs for people to borrow and return. However, many great indie games have never really had the publishing resources to put out physical releases, especially with the Switch's printing expenses. Even those that have, don't always have them widely available. But, it's now common for many libraries to offer DRM-driven, digital services to account for their gaps and failings (and so people don't need to make so many trips in the dead of winter). Hoopla and Kanopy are examples of such services: Content providers can give bulk licenses for media, with an agreed price the library pays (presumably often just per item for infinite borrows) So to bring back to the original point, if the logistic hurdles were cleared so that a solo dev could take their Steam-only Unity game, and sell it to libraries as well, so that lower-income gamers could run them anywhere, what games do you think could have the best *societal impact* for people to be able to play? It'd be great to have plenty of mindless, pure-fun games on offer, but I'm also thinking about introspective, social-literacy games that most people wouldn't pay money for just looking at the thumbnail.
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The Quake community regularly performs map jams. While I haven't tracked the efforts of the previous ones, this jam results in a large, nonsequential set of maps on offer, combined with a full conversion that creates new enemy variants, and remixes Quake's known weapons into new forms (dual nailguns, a rebar cannon, a multi-missile launcher, and a gemstone that functions like Doom 3's soul cube). When you load in, you're brought to a museum-like "gallery" with portals into each of the maps created for the jam, denoting their author and difficulty level; sorted into "main offerings", "new faces", and other sections. The simplest way to set the mod up is as a mod for Quake (though ironically, you'll be replacing both the main paks, AND the engine)
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Hadn't heard much of this project until now. Apparently, Crytek, a previous holder of the IP, has at one point given their direct blessing for this project to exist, so it *should* be safe from immediate legal threats. The project aims to recreate multiplayer as well as the singleplayer. Great to have another awesome free game available, so it'll be reliant on natural social media spread.
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What games have mastered “Both emotional extremes”?
Something I've picked up on with my gaming preference is stories that don't simply focus on one "mood" for the game, but alter it to fit the situation. Players get a relaxed time exploring or diving into combat, and the world is inviting and colorful, but when the story builds, it puts brutal tests of character in front of the heroes. Some examples of generally-great games that might fail this test: - Silent Hill 2: A game well-known for plumbing the depths of the human psyche. But it's missing any real moments of levity, leading players to pretty much be on guard the whole time. - Monkey Island: Undoubtedly a funny game. But since it breaks the fourth wall so much, and revels in its own illogical deus ex machinas to fit the "hero cannot die" tropes, it's never going to make the situation feel tense or at risk even when it tries to (and Telltale did try). - Call of Duty: Though a dudebro series, one can't deny the series has occasionally had some great storyline twists. Many of us may not remember them years later though, because as cool as characters like Captain Price are in the moment, they don't form a lasting impression as someone "complete" with flaws and weaknesses, in part because the storyline is often rushing you forward with action rather than poignance. - GTA: As a crime drama, pretty much everything is falling apart all the time in GTA, whether it's the plan, the heroes' relationship, or the entire city. There's moments of humor for sure, but little in the game makes you feel "awesome" or heroic, like your violence is achieving something. Some games that prevail: - The Walking Dead: While it is a serious game like Silent Hill, it's more often going to have meaningful, positive and tender moments to settle from the horrors the characters are going through, as well as allowing players to creatively express themselves even if that means having Lee say something boisterous or silly to the other survivors. - Yakuza: Sort of the posterchild for these emotional oscillations even within individual side quests. One might start through a silly situation where a man is throwing snow cones in the air, and end with using diaper fabric to simulate a snowstorm - so that a terminal cancer patient has a perfect sendoff in her final hours. - Final Fantasy: Thinking of the one I've played the most, XIV, but plenty of the others have had the heroes cross-dress to get back their taken party member, perform in plays for children, before having to dive into hell and confront their dark past, or consider ending an entire civilization to save the world. - Ace Attorney: The passion for murder tends to run hot. But, Ace Attorney is good at introducing ridiculous characters that tend to soften the blow. They may take premises as simple as security guards or journalists, and find every way they can to exaggerate their appearance and mannerisms. On the other end, the emotions behind proving the state and prosecution wrong about your innocent defendant are always worthwhile. Even when you do your best, the game delivers some poignant and well-written sad endings as well as many good ones. - Metal Gear Solid: Though diving hard into the "Tacti-cool", strategic warfare theme, MGS has always leaned hard into silly and highly characterized moments that have made the hard-hitting ones more impactful, as a result winning it lifetime fans. - Borderlands: Thought I'd throw another Western developer on here. I haven't played many of the others, but Borderlands 2 at least mastered the idea of having characters be flippant and silly 80% of the time, but getting you to really care when the jokes drop. A certain few moments around Handsome Jack come to mind in particular. I've definitely seen that Japanese developers are often better at this form of emotional openness, but this is something that I've wanted to explore a bit more as a prompt; whether people agree this is a good goal for story/theme development, what causes some publishers to stumble in this approach, and especially what indie games people aren't aware of that pull this off particularly well.
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Apologies for YouTuber link - as some of the sources cited are in Japanese, it’s harder to get to a direct English source. The video description includes links to the Yahoo.jp article.
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Wait, that game is still playable online?
Many of us only view a game's release in passing, and view it as an "event". Groundhog Smasher came out, it failed, and we don't hear of it again. Additionally, many of us associate "online" games with being "live service" - expecting the developers to announce a new skin, battle pass, game mechanic, or character every other week. But some online games are just purely enjoyable, or get enough unremarkable patches, or sometimes don't even need a high playercount, to be enjoyed for years after the developers stopped emitting news. This subject also gets confusing with cross-play games; even if one game has hardly anyone in its Steam playercount, sometimes between Playstation and Xbox there's just enough left to garner a following. Which games do you play, or know about, that most people would've thought to be completely closed down, or at least had totally forgotten about?
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Survey for curiosity: How many readers are in a library network that holds video games?
Given how little libraries advertise, this is something that I found recently. Like many, I missed being able to easily/quickly rent games via Blockbuster. But, it turns out many librarians keep up with modern preferences and keep quite a few games for checkout. Even when the one closest library doesn't have something I want, it's often available in the others on the network. Especially as Nintendo lifts their prices to $80, this may be something to seriously consider for people that have felt burned just two days into playing a game that isn't as fun as it looked in trailers.
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Team Fortress 2’s storyline has concluded with a 7-year-delayed comic
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Storyline? What kind of lore-addled whackjobs needed a storyline to get invested in two teams of knuckleheads killing each other endlessly in the Nevadan wasteland? Back when I played video games, it was two bleeping and blorping pixels that would gladly use their own guts as a rope to strangle the other. And you were lucky if you got any blorping! Anyway, it ends on a happy note so you may as well enjoy it. Merry Smissmas!
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Name a game game: “…and then it ends with you fighting A GOD.”
Trope or not, gods just end up being a common target for games about heroes escalating in power while fighting increasingly world-destroying consequences. So, for each post, name a game and describe it, with the assumption being that every description automatically ends with the phrase: "...and then it ends with you fighting a god."
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Stories and Mechanics around punishing over-aggression
For game designers, encouraging aggression is often a good thing. Too many players of StarCraft or even regular combat games end up "turtling", dropping initiative wherever possible to make their games slow and boring while playing as safe as possible. But in other games, often of multiplayer variety, hyper-aggression can sometimes ruin pacing in the other direction. Imagine spawning into a game with dozens of mechanics to learn, but finding that the prevailing strategy of enemy players is to arrive directly into your base and overwhelm you with a large set of abilities, using either their just-large-enough HP pool, or some mitigation ability, while you were still curiously investigating mechanics and working on defenses. Some players find this approach fun, and this may even be the appropriate situation for games of a competitive variety, where the ability to react to unexpectedly aggressive plays is an exciting element for both players and spectators. Plus, this is a very necessary setup for speedrunners, who often optimize to find the best way of trivializing singleplayer encounters. But other games have something of a more casual focus, which can give a sour feeling when trying to bring people into the experience without having to reflexively react to players that are abandoning caution. Even when a game isn't casual, aggression metas can trivialize the "ebb and flow, attack and defense" mechanics that the game traditionally tries to teach. This can also lead to speedruns becoming less interesting because one mechanic allows a player to skip much of what makes a game enjoyable (which can sometimes be solved by "No XGlitch%" run categories) So, the prompt branches into a few questions: - What are fun occasions you've seen where players got *absolutely destroyed* for relying on various "rush metas" in certain kinds of games, because witty players knew just how to react? - What are some interesting game mechanics you've seen that don't ruin the fun of the game, but force players to consider other mechanics they'd otherwise just forget about in order to have a "zero HP, max-damage" build? - What are some games you know of that are currently ruined by "Aggression metas", and what ideas do you have for either players or designers to correct for them?
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Recommendation engine: Downvote any game you’ve heard of before
This might be a slightly unusual attempt at a prompt, but might draw some appealing unusual options. The way it goes: Suggest games, ideally the kind that you believe would have relatively broad appeal. Don't feel bad about downvotes, but do downvote any game that's suggested if *you have heard of it before* (Perhaps, give some special treatment if it was literally your game of the year). This rule is meant to encourage people to post the indie darlings that took some unusual attention and discovery to be aware of and appreciate. If possible, link to the Steam pages for the games in question, so that anyone interested can quickly take a look at screenshots and reviews. And, as a general tip, anything with over 1000 steam reviews probably doesn't belong here. While I'd recommend that you only suggest one game per post, at the very most limit it to three. If I am incorrect about downvotes being inconsequential account-wide, say so and it might be possible to work out a different system.
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Many players have become “patient gamers”. What are games people might miss out on by waiting for sales?
Sales follow the tradition of supply and demand. Products come out at their highest price because of expectations and hype. Then, as interest wanes, the publisher continues to make *some* sales by reducing price to tempt the less interested parties. But this isn't the formula for all games. While we might agree that games from 2000 or even 2010 are "showing their age", at this point 5 to 8-year-old games are less and less likely to be seen as 'too old' by comparison to hot releases. Some publishers have picked up on that theme, and doubled down on the commitment to the idea that their games have high longevity and appeal; making the most of their capitalistic venture for better or worse. I recently was reminded of an indie game I had put on my wishlist several years back, but never ended up buying because it simply had never gone on sale - but looking at it now, not only did it maintain extremely positive user reviews, I also saw that its lowest all-time price was barely a few dollars off of its original price. In the AAA space, the easiest place to see this happening is with Nintendo. Anyone hoping to buy an old Legend of Zelda game for cheap will often be disappointed - the company is so insistent on its quality, they pretty much never give price reductions. And, with some occasional exceptions, their claims tend to be proven right. In the indie space, the most prominent example of this practice is **Factorio**, a popular factory-building game that has continued receiving updates, and has even had its base price *increased* from its original (complete with a warning announcement, encouraging people to purchase at its lower price while it's still available). Developers deserve to make a buck, and personally I can't say I've ever seen this practice negatively. Continuing to charge $25 for a good game, years after it came out, speaks to confidence in a product (even if most of us are annoyed at AAA games now costing $70). I sort of came to this realization from doing some accounting to find that I'd likely spent over $100 a year on game "bundles" that usually contain trashy games I'm liable to spend less than a few hours in. For those without any discussion comments, what games on Steam or elsewhere have you enjoyed that you've never seen get the free advertising of a "40% off sale"?
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Game genres where “It’s just more X content” is more than enough
We get a lot of sequels in the gaming world, and a common criticism is when a series isn't really innovating enough. We're given an open world game that takes 40 hours, with DLC stretching it out 20 more, and see a sequel releasing that cut out it's late 30 hours because players were already getting bored. Meanwhile, there's some other types of games where any addition in the form of "It's just more levels in the series" is perfectly satisfying. Often, this is a hard measure to replicate since these types of series often demand the creators are very inventive and detailed with their content - this likely wouldn't be a matter of rearranging tiles in a level editor to present a very slightly different situation. What I've often seen is that such games will add incredibly small, insignificant "New Gameplay Features" just so they have something to put on the back of the box, but that tend to be easily forgotten in standard play (yet, the game as a whole still ends up being fun). The specific series that come to mind for me with "Level-driven games" are: *Hitman* - the way the levels are made naturally necessitates some creativity both from the level makers to come up with unique foibles and weaknesses to each target, and from the players to discover both the intended and unintended methods of elimination. *Ace Attorney* - While they series has come up with various magical/unusual methods for pointing out contradictions in court, the appeal is still in the mysteries themselves, and it's never needed much beyond the basic gameplay, and the incredibly detailed and well-animated characters to hook people in. *Half-Life* - For its time, anyway. While its Episodes certainly made efforts to present new features, quite often the star of Half-Life games isn't really in any core features or gameplay mechanics, but in the inventive designs of its levels, tied in with a penchant for environmental storytelling; making you feel the world was more than an arrangement of blocks and paths. For a long time, the wait for Valve-made episodes was alleviated with modder-made levels hoping to approach the inventive qualities of the original games. *Yakuza* - While the series has undergone a major overhaul moving to JRPG combat mode, for 6+ games it satisfied a simple formula: Dramatic stories driven by cutscenes, as well as a huge variety of mini quests, of boundless variety and very low logic. For many of their games, they weren't doing a whole lot to re-contextualize their core gameplay, being fisticuffs combat, and it still worked out well (plus, they're continuing to go that route for games like Kiryu's last game) To open up discussion, and put the question as simply as I can: Which games do you follow, that you wish could be eternally supported by their devs, by simply continuing to release new "level packs" or their functional equivalent, with no need to revamp gameplay formulas?
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