What bothers me the most (besides the general AI slop thing) is that this shit changes the style of games. And imo better graphics alsmost never make a game better. I mean if the graphic is actually better…
My thoughts on this corpulent technology can be summed up by some brilliant thinkers.
“Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius—and a lot of courage—to move in the opposite direction.” – E.F. Schumacher
“The cheapest, fastest, and most reliable components of a computer system are those that aren’t there.” – Gordon Bell
“Keep it simple. A simple solution has elegance. It is the result of an exacting effort to understand the real problem and is recognized by its compelling sense of rightness. I stress this point because it contradicts the conventional view that power increases with complexity. Simplicity provides confidence, reliability, compactness, and speed.” – Charles Moore
China now knows how to shoot down F35s, if you’ve been following other news.
Yeah, sorry Taiwan, between that and the US wasting all of its missiles and interceptors on Iran… and dismantling the SK THAAD system for parts, after two of them got destroyed in the GCC…
Huang is gonna be taking orders, moreso than giving them, in the near future.
“Between dealing with minority oppression, general uncertainty, and the rush to replace artists and those who pursued knowledge with machines, it feels like there is no future for me or my craft.”
It’s not like anyone can turn it on anyway, thing need two 5090 to even function, and they’re one of those buying all the ram which caused ram shortage, which mean no one can run it well. They’re essentially making a tools for no one.
This is a step towards forcing people to stream games from some dedicated server. Once this becomes accepted (and it will, given enough time), and turning it off actively hurts the player experience, Amazon or someone will come around and say “hey, we have a lot of 5090s just lying around 👉👈”, and people will start going for it.
A bunch of people got it wrong, and other people ban wagoned. The hate has almost disappeared now that the dust has settled and people actually listened to what it is, but there are so people that change to goal post to general AI is bad after finding out what dlss 5 actually does. Always look into the subject before joining the bandwagon because the first reaction is usually wrong and misinformed.
I mean even generative AI would put out a sentence that made better sense that that. That was just a mishmash of words that made no actual point and lead nowhere and it honestly it hurt my brain trying to understand it.
I mean moving goal posts? Just WTF? The goal post has always been DLSS 5 is horrible AI bullshit that tramples artistic intent and this guy had to have at least skimmed the article and saw that this is what these developers were saying.
Sorry, not to ramble but damn, this post just broke my brain since I was coming off of doing a logical task and couldn’t deal with something so illogical all of the sudden.
No, usually the first reaction is the wrong one. This is the case here. So many people got what dlss5.0 does wrong. It’s just AI fear and assumptions, and not understanding what the tech is doing and what is for.
You are making that “first reaction is the wrong one” assertion like it is some sort of law of physics. Many people have read all the published materials and are knowledgeable in the field, and come to the sober, measured conclusion that this technology is mostly a turd. To make matters worse, its a $2500 turd that makes the room hot and the electric meter spin real fast.
I’ve seen it in reverse; people who saw the initial yassification of characters
were impressed by the “rendering” but after a few days, have realized that perhaps it isn’t the creative intent to make everyone look like AI slop.
Plus even if the tech ends up being good, the demonstration (and subsequent response) is very much not. Shadows getting washed out, people’s arms disappearing, and other things, people looking it over realize it’s not even doing what it wants to do.
Maybe it’ll work out when the creators have control over it and can prevent it from undoing important stuff, like a character’s plot related scars or lighting effects used to show players where to go, but that’s all suspect until proven otherwise.
Don’t forget the “at least we still have amd” mindset. If AMD picks this up (and the CEO’s are related ffs) then the only work needed by game devs will be these horrible munchkin models that AI will magically fix.
At that point it’s not only that we replace human artists anymore, it’s that any new players in the gaming GPU market will have catch up to DLSS to even be considered as a viable alternative.
Shut the fuck up. You are wrong and misinformed. Also, artificial general intelligence doesn’t exist yet, but when it does, you’ll feel the pain regardless of your naïveté
What if… We’re all being manipulated by Nvidia? What if they are the ones that started this “global outrage” in the first place? What if that’s how a mega-corp markets it’s products these days? What if they know that the anti AI cultists aren’t actually the biggest group, just one of the loudest ones?
Look at the result. Look at how many people are talking about this. Look at how it’s front page news all of a sudden. Look at how many people are now aware it exists.
In the end all that will matter is that they did a thing and now the whole world knows about it. In the end DLSS5 will go ahead and games will look better than they ever have before. In the end all the memes, jokes, likes, upvotes and downvotes will be a footnote in the story of how AI came to games. In the end we will all keep wishing for better and better gfx cards and that… is the point.
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What bothers me the most (besides the general AI slop thing) is that this shit changes the style of games. And imo better graphics alsmost never make a game better. I mean if the graphic is actually better…
Someone: Hey nvidia, make this look better!
Nvidia: i got this bro!
My thoughts on this corpulent technology can be summed up by some brilliant thinkers.
Well, according Nvidia, they’re all wrong, so who are you going to believe?
Well, think of it this way:
China now knows how to shoot down F35s, if you’ve been following other news.
Yeah, sorry Taiwan, between that and the US wasting all of its missiles and interceptors on Iran… and dismantling the SK THAAD system for parts, after two of them got destroyed in the GCC…
Huang is gonna be taking orders, moreso than giving them, in the near future.
Sorry, what?!
Jesus…
When a product’s most promosing feature is you can turn it off, you might have a problem.
It’s not like anyone can turn it on anyway, thing need two 5090 to even function, and they’re one of those buying all the ram which caused ram shortage, which mean no one can run it well. They’re essentially making a tools for no one.
This is a step towards forcing people to stream games from some dedicated server. Once this becomes accepted (and it will, given enough time), and turning it off actively hurts the player experience, Amazon or someone will come around and say “hey, we have a lot of 5090s just lying around 👉👈”, and people will start going for it.
A bunch of people got it wrong, and other people ban wagoned. The hate has almost disappeared now that the dust has settled and people actually listened to what it is, but there are so people that change to goal post to general AI is bad after finding out what dlss 5 actually does. Always look into the subject before joining the bandwagon because the first reaction is usually wrong and misinformed.
WTF are you even talking about? Sit down Billy, I award you no points.
and may God have mercy on your soul.
Happy cake day brother !
Well damn.
Relax, that account must be an AI bot with DLSS ON™.
I mean even generative AI would put out a sentence that made better sense that that. That was just a mishmash of words that made no actual point and lead nowhere and it honestly it hurt my brain trying to understand it.
I mean moving goal posts? Just WTF? The goal post has always been DLSS 5 is horrible AI bullshit that tramples artistic intent and this guy had to have at least skimmed the article and saw that this is what these developers were saying.
Sorry, not to ramble but damn, this post just broke my brain since I was coming off of doing a logical task and couldn’t deal with something so illogical all of the sudden.
Guy must be a Sovereign Citizen, they make about as much sense.
Come over here and have a good laugh 😂 https://lemmy.world/post/44484483
10/10 he’s either some jerkoff CEO, some jerkoff tech bro, or some jerkoff shareholder.
Hmm… New account, defending a company that doesn’t care about your opinion, and saying that everyone but the corporation is the problem.
Bro… Are you aware that you are a bot?
No, usually the first reaction is the wrong one. This is the case here. So many people got what dlss5.0 does wrong. It’s just AI fear and assumptions, and not understanding what the tech is doing and what is for.
You are making that “first reaction is the wrong one” assertion like it is some sort of law of physics. Many people have read all the published materials and are knowledgeable in the field, and come to the sober, measured conclusion that this technology is mostly a turd. To make matters worse, its a $2500 turd that makes the room hot and the electric meter spin real fast.
Nah, I still think it’s terrible even though I know what it does. The final product just looks like straight up garbage.
Hi Jensen!
What up G
I’ve seen it in reverse; people who saw the initial yassification of characters were impressed by the “rendering” but after a few days, have realized that perhaps it isn’t the creative intent to make everyone look like AI slop.
Plus even if the tech ends up being good, the demonstration (and subsequent response) is very much not. Shadows getting washed out, people’s arms disappearing, and other things, people looking it over realize it’s not even doing what it wants to do.
Maybe it’ll work out when the creators have control over it and can prevent it from undoing important stuff, like a character’s plot related scars or lighting effects used to show players where to go, but that’s all suspect until proven otherwise.
Don’t forget the “at least we still have amd” mindset. If AMD picks this up (and the CEO’s are related ffs) then the only work needed by game devs will be these horrible munchkin models that AI will magically fix.
At that point it’s not only that we replace human artists anymore, it’s that any new players in the gaming GPU market will have catch up to DLSS to even be considered as a viable alternative.
Dlss 1.0 sucked.
Dlss 4.5 is amazing.
Shut the fuck up. You are wrong and misinformed. Also, artificial general intelligence doesn’t exist yet, but when it does, you’ll feel the pain regardless of your naïveté
There’s too many AI bot posters these days.
What if… We’re all being manipulated by Nvidia? What if they are the ones that started this “global outrage” in the first place? What if that’s how a mega-corp markets it’s products these days? What if they know that the anti AI cultists aren’t actually the biggest group, just one of the loudest ones?
Look at the result. Look at how many people are talking about this. Look at how it’s front page news all of a sudden. Look at how many people are now aware it exists.
In the end all that will matter is that they did a thing and now the whole world knows about it. In the end DLSS5 will go ahead and games will look better than they ever have before. In the end all the memes, jokes, likes, upvotes and downvotes will be a footnote in the story of how AI came to games. In the end we will all keep wishing for better and better gfx cards and that… is the point.
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