Its a tiny fraction of the problem, the issue is with datacenter buildout taking all the available supply, if it was dlss directly related we would have seen ram prices increasing much earlier then we did.
But this specific iteration of DLSS is deeply wrapped up in the AI hype machine which is directly related to the datacenter buildout. The reason 5 has been a hot button topic centers around that AI upscaling showcase which only exists because NVidia is deeply invested in AI. This is what I mean that nothing in is a vacuum.
But you’re combining two things that should be understood separately to have an accurate picture of what is happening.
All I’ve seen about 5 is people complaining about how it looks, “not the original artistic vision” or just generally mocking it as bad. (Which is a personal opinion not a hard fact)
Nothing is in a vacuum sure, but let’s take the “personal responsibility” discussion around greenhouse emissions as an example, yes ordinary people and their actions contribute, but the vast vast vast majority is NOT and focusing on the least impactful level is not going to move the needle when the bigger issue is things like private jets, corporations ignoring environmental regulation, etc.
Weird because if you check search terms there’s a shitload of people asking “how do I enable dlss” and tons of hobbyist projects for backporting it into games that didn’t have it initially.
It seems to me a lot of people do actively want it.
Maybe I’m the one out of my depth, but my understanding is that the objection is not to DLSS overall, but the specific implementation of DLSS 5 and it’s AI-driven focus. I am not claiming nobody is asking for DLSS, I’m claiming nobody is asking for the AI-driven focus of the upcoming iteration.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]
Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.
Rules
1. Submissions have to be related to games
Video games, tabletop, or otherwise. Posts not related to games will be deleted.
This community is focused on games, of all kinds. Any news item or discussion should be related to gaming in some way.
2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil
No bigotry, hardline stance. Try not to get too heated when entering into a discussion or debate.
We are here to talk and discuss about one of our passions, not fight or be exposed to hate. Posts or responses that are hateful will be deleted to keep the atmosphere good. If repeatedly violated, not only will the comment be deleted but a ban will be handed out as well. We judge each case individually.
3. No excessive self-promotion
Try to keep it to 10% self-promotion / 90% other stuff in your post history.
This is to prevent people from posting for the sole purpose of promoting their own website or social media account.
4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts
This community is mostly for discussion and news. Remember to search for the thing you’re submitting before posting to see if it’s already been posted.
We want to keep the quality of posts high. Therefore, memes, funny videos, low-effort posts and reposts are not allowed. We prohibit giveaways because we cannot be sure that the person holding the giveaway will actually do what they promise.
5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW
Make sure to mark your stuff or it may be removed.
No one wants to be spoiled. Therefore, always mark spoilers. Similarly mark NSFW, in case anyone is browsing in a public space or at work.
6. No linking to piracy
Don’t share it here, there are other places to find it. Discussion of piracy is fine.
We don’t want us moderators or the admins of lemmy.world to get in trouble for linking to piracy. Therefore, any link to piracy will be removed. Discussion of it is of course allowed.
Because the cost of having that option has somehow both made the steak more expensive and the equipment to cook it more scarce.
Oh I didn’t realize you were forced to buy a 5090 in order to not use dlss, til.
Also DLSS runs locally off the gpu lmao so its not really contributing to the ram inflation issue overall.
Nothing exists in a vacuum; those impacts are real even if indirect.
Its a tiny fraction of the problem, the issue is with datacenter buildout taking all the available supply, if it was dlss directly related we would have seen ram prices increasing much earlier then we did.
But this specific iteration of DLSS is deeply wrapped up in the AI hype machine which is directly related to the datacenter buildout. The reason 5 has been a hot button topic centers around that AI upscaling showcase which only exists because NVidia is deeply invested in AI. This is what I mean that nothing in is a vacuum.
But you’re combining two things that should be understood separately to have an accurate picture of what is happening.
All I’ve seen about 5 is people complaining about how it looks, “not the original artistic vision” or just generally mocking it as bad. (Which is a personal opinion not a hard fact)
Nothing is in a vacuum sure, but let’s take the “personal responsibility” discussion around greenhouse emissions as an example, yes ordinary people and their actions contribute, but the vast vast vast majority is NOT and focusing on the least impactful level is not going to move the needle when the bigger issue is things like private jets, corporations ignoring environmental regulation, etc.
Because, going back to the original metaphor, nobody asked for cinnamon in the first place, so any amount wasted on it is stupid.
Weird because if you check search terms there’s a shitload of people asking “how do I enable dlss” and tons of hobbyist projects for backporting it into games that didn’t have it initially.
It seems to me a lot of people do actively want it.
Maybe I’m the one out of my depth, but my understanding is that the objection is not to DLSS overall, but the specific implementation of DLSS 5 and it’s AI-driven focus. I am not claiming nobody is asking for DLSS, I’m claiming nobody is asking for the AI-driven focus of the upcoming iteration.