Thought I’d share this in case there are people who are unaware or have been pending off the migration process.
Starting September 19, 2023, at 11:00 am EST/17:00 pm CEST, unmigrated Mojang accounts will not be able to sign in to Minecraft.net or the Minecraft Launcher to migrate. We’re doing this to ensure that everyone is playing using accounts with improved security and player safety.
Source: Minecraft.net article
What will happen to unmigrated accounts?
Once the deadline for migration is reached, players will no longer be able to access unmigrated accounts. All unmigrated accounts will be deleted at a future date.
Source: help.minecraft.net
What if you don’t have access to the email address associated with your Mojang account, or have any other queries?
The details are unclear. The Minecraft help center link says “Minecraft player support will no longer be able to help with migration-related issues after September 5, 2023.” whereas the minecraft.net article states “[…] starting September 19, 2023, Minecraft Support will no longer be able to assist in any MSA migration-related tickets.”
What do you get for migrating to a Microsoft account?
Microsoft claims improved account security, and 2FA. You will get a Migrator cape and access to Minecraft for Windows (Bedrock Edition) on the Microsoft account chosen at the time of migration.
I know this comes across as one of those classic phishing emails that claim to require your immediate attention or else your account will be deleted, but unfortunately in this case it’s legitimate.
I will say it sounds like a lovely lawsuit waiting to happen though, especially in countries with good consumer protections. I wonder how Canadian law would feel about this? 🤔
Microsoft is a trillion dollar company. Unfortunately I doubt any country is going to meaningfully harm them over accounts like this. (I am one of the people that cant migrate because the email I had associated with it is gone and the game was gifted to me so long ago that I wouldn’t be able to easily prove it was mine)
You’d be surprised, EU fines and consequences to shitty anti-consumer actions like this are built to hurt. There’s a reason why the new iPhone has USB-C, and it’s not out of the kindness of their heart.
Yes, but in this case? The users are being migrated to a new authentication account and have been notified for many years that they needed to move over - it’s been like 5 years, right? The servers are staying up. And if you’ve got a Mojang account, any possibility of this still being under even the most generous warranty is long gone.
If you want to participate in a community where you control the software, you should be getting into open-source games. Minetest is great! It has a better modding system than Java edition! But ultimately, if you’re playing commercial games, you have to deal with a reality that the company owns it and there’s no guarantee what will happen to their servers after the warranty is expired.
In this case I’d get around to it too. I went through it a few months ago and it was not easy. They put a fucking idiotic time limit of 15 minutes on the email, which invariably arrived much later than that. I sat spamming the “send email” button out of frustration.
Morons. It’s email.
Eventually one happened to actually arrive in time, but I’d leave some spare time to retry if you care at all.
They probably want it to fail so that they have fewer users on their servers that already paid. I’m sure their attitude is “pay us again if you want to keep playing”.
I tried to recover my Mojang account and migrate it three times. Each attempt gets a stock response asking for certain info (receipt, email, username). When I provide this, I get a response from a different support user asking for the same thing I just provided. After three to five back and forths (with the same questions and the same answers) I get busy, frustrated, and leave it for a few weeks.
Once I have time, I start over and the exact same thing repeats again.
I wrote it off as a loss last year with an asterisk of “another reason to fucking hate Microsoft”
Yeah, I bought it during beta testing and my account was attached to an old email. Gave up trying to migrate years ago. I’m actually surprised they still haven’t deleted it already.
If you are currently able to login and play, then you should be good. I believe they blocked Mojang and Legacy accounts from logging into the launcher a while back.
Doesn’t hurt to check though. Make sure that the upper left corner of the launcher shows your Xbox Gamertag (may be different from your Java Edition username) and says “Microsoft account”.
Can confirm, I found creating a new Microsoft account and doing literally nothing with it for around half an hour is suspicious enough to lock the account and require a phone number.
If I had used Windows 10 edition at any point, would I have already migrated? I haven’t played Minecraft in ages, but I certainly don’t want to lose access to it.
Edit: Wtf… I get an “Access forbidden” error just going to minecraft.net/login
If you purchased or redeemed a code for Minecraft for Windows 10 Edition in the past, your Microsoft account is eligible to get Minecraft: Java Edition for free. If you log into the Minecraft Launcher with your Microsoft, it should prompt you to set up a Java Edition username (separate from your Xbox Gamertag).
More information can be found on their help page here.
Other way around, actually. I bought Minecraft way before Microsoft owned Mojang, but at some point they gave access to the Windows 10 edition for owners of the Java edition. I’ve installed that before, around that time, and I’m just wondering if that was enough to have migrated my account. It’s worrying tho that I tried to login in at minecraft.net and got a access error trying to reach the login page.
Redeeming that Windows 10 Edition code is separate from migrating to a Microsoft account. The code was just a free perk.
If you have not migrated your Mojang account yet, you have two options:
Migrate your profile to the same Microsoft account as the one on which you redeemed that Windows 10 Edition code. The benefit of this is that all your PC Minecraft is on one login.
Migrate your profile to a different Microsoft account, allowing you to double dip. You’ll end up with two Microsoft accounts, but also two Minecraft: Java Edition and Minecraft for Windows 10 licenses. It’s free real estate.
Authentication servers do not run themselves, they need babysitting and patching and upgrading because this is users’ passwords and secrets. Microsoft obviously does not want to keep managing this old login system because it’s miserable unrewarding janitorial work for a sysadmin or a developer.
Oh gosh, they bought a computer game company and they don’t want to pay to support existing customers? They don’t want to maintain accounts that represent HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of hours of creativity, a long-time faithful user fanbase, because they now feel it’s miserable unrewarding janitorial work?
It’s MINECRAFT! Do you even know what people do on Minecraft? It’s not saving progress we’re talking about here. It’s destroying an ARCHIVE. It’s a life some kid has lived in there.
You make it sound like it’s perfectly reasonable to ditch this community because it’s an expense and an inconvenience. Get lost with your Microsoft defense. They don’t need you. They don’t give a shit.
What’s getting destroyed? You wouldn’t be able to login to the server but the data would still be there. Transfer the account (or make a new one) and the data’s still there as well.
I’m more annoyed that Microsoft split off Java Edition and Bedrock into two pieces of incompatible software, but I’m honestly surprised they’ve supported the old auth services for this long.
I don’t see how you could possibly make Bedrock and Java compatible with each other seeing as the whole point of Java edition is compatibility with mods written in…Java…
The shitty thing to do would have been to tell mod users to fuck off and force everyone over to Bedrock. Instead they’ve done well by the community, maintaining Java edition and even giving it preferential treatment when it comes to updates. Bedrock is built for consoles, where mods are not a thing and performance is more important.
I think they’re a very vocal, but disagreed with, minority. I think some people here think all of Lemmy is unwaveringly anti-corporation and anti-capitalist.
I’d consider myself mostly anti-corporation and mostly anti-capitalist, but I also understand that not everything every corporation does is out of some desire to commit the worst thing possible on mankind (e.g. retiring old authentication servers that they’ve kept running for years while warning people that it’d eventually be cut off).
Anyway, Lemmy hates these 5 Cs (in no particular order):
-Corporations
-CEOs (in particular Elon Musk and Spez)
-Conservative politics of any kind
-Capitalism
-Chromium browsers, even the privacy-oriented spinoffs.
The players still have their stuff and their user ID, just under a new login process. They’ve been pestering users to make this migration for years and years.
Edit: also, this is Java edition, meaning the worlds they built are just Minecraft save files that a new user could access. The cloud-based one was Bedrock Edition, that’s the one where you’d have cloud-based worlds that you could lose if you lost your account.
The fun part is most of the people bitching have no clue how to do any of this. Probably the same people who bitch about new games not supporting Windows 7.
You’re welcome to take on the rewrite of our auth-service too, since it seems so trivial in your world. Always fun to drag legacy services around for those 12 really loud and angry users.
They don’t want to hire people to build and maintain a secure login platform when their parent company already has one. This is way more work and liability than most people realize.
Sidenote, I have a feeling that’s straight up illegal under contract law. IANAL though.
Edit: Just so ppl have something specific: you bought access to the service. It’s probably gonna be limited in the User Agreement as “if this service has to be shut down, you agree to lose your access and you don’t sue to get your money back”. But this is a backend migration and I’m fairly sure this is not something they had in their original contracts. That’s why sniff a broken contract and when they don’t refund your money, I sniff broken laws.
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You have an entire lifetime to drop that shit and play Minetest instead but i wouldn’t wait too much
I know this comes across as one of those classic phishing emails that claim to require your immediate attention or else your account will be deleted, but unfortunately in this case it’s legitimate.
I hate that Minecraft is one of the two things I even need a Microsoft Account for.
I thought they’d done this already. They’ve been pestering for a while right?
So when do I get my refund?
Never. Microsoft says fuck you.
I will say it sounds like a lovely lawsuit waiting to happen though, especially in countries with good consumer protections. I wonder how Canadian law would feel about this? 🤔
I paid like, 10 dollars what’s gotta be 15 years ago now.
Like if there’s a class action lawsuit over this I wouldn’t turn down the settlement but I’m not losing any sleep over it
Some of us paid $39. :(
Edit: I think that’s what it cost. It was awhile ago, but it wasn’t cheap.
Of note is that if you purchased the game before ~2012, the user agreement had no clause regarding them being able to change it willy-nilly.
Microsoft is a trillion dollar company. Unfortunately I doubt any country is going to meaningfully harm them over accounts like this. (I am one of the people that cant migrate because the email I had associated with it is gone and the game was gifted to me so long ago that I wouldn’t be able to easily prove it was mine)
You’d be surprised, EU fines and consequences to shitty anti-consumer actions like this are built to hurt. There’s a reason why the new iPhone has USB-C, and it’s not out of the kindness of their heart.
Yes, but in this case? The users are being migrated to a new authentication account and have been notified for many years that they needed to move over - it’s been like 5 years, right? The servers are staying up. And if you’ve got a Mojang account, any possibility of this still being under even the most generous warranty is long gone.
If you want to participate in a community where you control the software, you should be getting into open-source games. Minetest is great! It has a better modding system than Java edition! But ultimately, if you’re playing commercial games, you have to deal with a reality that the company owns it and there’s no guarantee what will happen to their servers after the warranty is expired.
Apple is building proprietary USB-C cables that the iPhone will extremely prefer. So absolutely not for kindnes
I mean, I paid like 8 bucks for the game (or however much it was in the indev version) but it’s still shitty and arbitrary.
In this case I’d get around to it too. I went through it a few months ago and it was not easy. They put a fucking idiotic time limit of 15 minutes on the email, which invariably arrived much later than that. I sat spamming the “send email” button out of frustration.
Morons. It’s email.
Eventually one happened to actually arrive in time, but I’d leave some spare time to retry if you care at all.
They probably want it to fail so that they have fewer users on their servers that already paid. I’m sure their attitude is “pay us again if you want to keep playing”.
So you’re saying there’s still time, cool I’ll get around to that Later. …
Does Lemmy.world have a remind me bot?? 😂
Can’t migrate. Will not accept ULA. I now have to rely on pirated version for a game I paid twice. This does not make sense.
Yeah, no. Microsoft can get bent at 43.625° angle.
I tried to recover my Mojang account and migrate it three times. Each attempt gets a stock response asking for certain info (receipt, email, username). When I provide this, I get a response from a different support user asking for the same thing I just provided. After three to five back and forths (with the same questions and the same answers) I get busy, frustrated, and leave it for a few weeks.
Once I have time, I start over and the exact same thing repeats again.
I wrote it off as a loss last year with an asterisk of “another reason to fucking hate Microsoft”
Yeah, I bought it during beta testing and my account was attached to an old email. Gave up trying to migrate years ago. I’m actually surprised they still haven’t deleted it already.
Class action time?
I keep getting those emails even though I’ve migrated my account and can play Java Minecraft through the Microsoft launcher.
Leads me to think my account isn’t migrated but I guess I’ll know for sure in a week or so.
If you are currently able to login and play, then you should be good. I believe they blocked Mojang and Legacy accounts from logging into the launcher a while back.
Doesn’t hurt to check though. Make sure that the upper left corner of the launcher shows your Xbox Gamertag (may be different from your Java Edition username) and says “Microsoft account”.
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Can confirm, I found creating a new Microsoft account and doing literally nothing with it for around half an hour is suspicious enough to lock the account and require a phone number.
If I had used Windows 10 edition at any point, would I have already migrated? I haven’t played Minecraft in ages, but I certainly don’t want to lose access to it.
Edit: Wtf… I get an “Access forbidden” error just going to minecraft.net/login
If you purchased or redeemed a code for Minecraft for Windows 10 Edition in the past, your Microsoft account is eligible to get Minecraft: Java Edition for free. If you log into the Minecraft Launcher with your Microsoft, it should prompt you to set up a Java Edition username (separate from your Xbox Gamertag).
More information can be found on their help page here.
Other way around, actually. I bought Minecraft way before Microsoft owned Mojang, but at some point they gave access to the Windows 10 edition for owners of the Java edition. I’ve installed that before, around that time, and I’m just wondering if that was enough to have migrated my account. It’s worrying tho that I tried to login in at minecraft.net and got a access error trying to reach the login page.
Redeeming that Windows 10 Edition code is separate from migrating to a Microsoft account. The code was just a free perk.
If you have not migrated your Mojang account yet, you have two options:
This is bullshit. What could it possibly matter to them, other than to force people onto their miserable platform. Bastards.
Authentication servers do not run themselves, they need babysitting and patching and upgrading because this is users’ passwords and secrets. Microsoft obviously does not want to keep managing this old login system because it’s miserable unrewarding janitorial work for a sysadmin or a developer.
Oh gosh, they bought a computer game company and they don’t want to pay to support existing customers? They don’t want to maintain accounts that represent HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of hours of creativity, a long-time faithful user fanbase, because they now feel it’s miserable unrewarding janitorial work?
It’s MINECRAFT! Do you even know what people do on Minecraft? It’s not saving progress we’re talking about here. It’s destroying an ARCHIVE. It’s a life some kid has lived in there.
You make it sound like it’s perfectly reasonable to ditch this community because it’s an expense and an inconvenience. Get lost with your Microsoft defense. They don’t need you. They don’t give a shit.
What’s getting destroyed? You wouldn’t be able to login to the server but the data would still be there. Transfer the account (or make a new one) and the data’s still there as well.
I’m more annoyed that Microsoft split off Java Edition and Bedrock into two pieces of incompatible software, but I’m honestly surprised they’ve supported the old auth services for this long.
I don’t see how you could possibly make Bedrock and Java compatible with each other seeing as the whole point of Java edition is compatibility with mods written in…Java…
The shitty thing to do would have been to tell mod users to fuck off and force everyone over to Bedrock. Instead they’ve done well by the community, maintaining Java edition and even giving it preferential treatment when it comes to updates. Bedrock is built for consoles, where mods are not a thing and performance is more important.
Yeah, I get that Bedrock is for consoles, but as far as far as “performance” that’s mostly a front-end consideration.
I just wish that there was a level of compatibility where one could still self-host and allow the console etc players to join
Gee whiz, you sure are mad about a person explaining reality to you
This seems to be a common feature of Lemmy
Reality is trash, send the nukes flying please.
Soon we’ll all be drinking toilet water, and doing a live dress rehearsal for Mad Max.
This is becoming the norm here unfortunately…
I think they’re a very vocal, but disagreed with, minority. I think some people here think all of Lemmy is unwaveringly anti-corporation and anti-capitalist.
I’d consider myself mostly anti-corporation and mostly anti-capitalist, but I also understand that not everything every corporation does is out of some desire to commit the worst thing possible on mankind (e.g. retiring old authentication servers that they’ve kept running for years while warning people that it’d eventually be cut off).
Anyway, Lemmy hates these 5 Cs (in no particular order): -Corporations
-CEOs (in particular Elon Musk and Spez)
-Conservative politics of any kind
-Capitalism
-Chromium browsers, even the privacy-oriented spinoffs.
The players still have their stuff and their user ID, just under a new login process. They’ve been pestering users to make this migration for years and years.
Edit: also, this is Java edition, meaning the worlds they built are just Minecraft save files that a new user could access. The cloud-based one was Bedrock Edition, that’s the one where you’d have cloud-based worlds that you could lose if you lost your account.
The fun part is most of the people bitching have no clue how to do any of this. Probably the same people who bitch about new games not supporting Windows 7.
You’re welcome to take on the rewrite of our
auth-servicetoo, since it seems so trivial in your world. Always fun to drag legacy services around for those 12 really loud and angry users.They don’t want to hire people to build and maintain a secure login platform when their parent company already has one. This is way more work and liability than most people realize.
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Does this mean we’ll need to pay for the game again if we don’t do it in time?
☠️🏴
That does appear to be the case at this moment.
Sidenote, I have a feeling that’s straight up illegal under contract law. IANAL though.
Edit: Just so ppl have something specific: you bought access to the service. It’s probably gonna be limited in the User Agreement as “if this service has to be shut down, you agree to lose your access and you don’t sue to get your money back”. But this is a backend migration and I’m fairly sure this is not something they had in their original contracts. That’s why sniff a broken contract and when they don’t refund your money, I sniff broken laws.
If it’s not, it should be.
We can write laws and vote then into power, we can fuck up whatever company we want to.