CI Games apparently believes that inclusive games are at a high risk of failure.
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Did Lord of the lidl 2 even feature any of that? If not it doesn’t seem the have helped them.

The trick is that if you made a good game, then in ten years idiots will point to your highly political game as being from the time when games weren’t woke.

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I hate political games. That’s why my favourite is Fallout New Vegas, no woke politics, just a good, simple tale about a man delivering a package.

That’s a great one. Ever tried Disco Elysium? Cop solves a crime, kinda reminded me of Sam and Max.

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I love a good detective game.

It’s in my backlog, so at my current rate I assume I’ll get around to it within 20-30 years.

Same page. I literally just got a copy of Armoured Core 6, and that’s quick by my standards

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Besides that “one weird trick”, the other is to just include a diverse sets of people/cultures in your game. There’s no need to push their agendas, just don’t misrepresent them. That’s actually what they’re asking for, even. It’s a lot more effective, IMO.

Trolls will still complain your game is woke, but they won’t have any teeth.

They thought Bluey was too woke and made “Chip Chilla”, which turns out to just be the same shit but uncreative, soulless, and blatantly agenda-driven. It turns out even treating kids as having agency and inherent value as people is too woke.

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Promises not to include any social or political agendas. Continues to promote carnism.

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Small time Polish publisher, with the only games of fame, so to speak, being Lords of the Fallen (both versions) and Sniper: Ghost Warrior series (no relation to Sniper Elite)

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Thought a different dev did the first one, which I actually enjoyed.

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Their games are ass, this don’t surprise me

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That’s just a pretty way of announcing you will be censoring your writers.

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“While some videogames have recently taken the opportunity to embed social or political agendas within their experiences, it is clear that many players do not appreciate this, and as a result, we have seen a number of high profile releases underperforming commercially during the last year alone,” Hill said. “Our games will always be developed to maximise player enjoyment and commercial success, and as such, we will not be integrating any social or political agencies into these experiences going forward having observed the high risk this can present.”

Talk about journos making a mountain out of a molerat… If it in fact was written by a “journo” and not an AI. To be fair, journo is a stretch, journos have journalism degrees, there’s very little separating “gaming journalists” from bloggers. (Schreier and the like being the exception)

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Say what you will about the woke gaming agenda, I love to see a company brave enough to take this stance. It’s refreshing to see a publisher wear its beliefs on its sleeve because now I know that I don’t have to spend money on their trash games

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Had me in the first half, not gonna lie

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City Interactive and trash games have always been synonymous. They shortened their name to get rid of the mountain of trash they have produced, but it’s not working.

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If it doesn’t, then it’s not really art, it’s it? It’s just a mass-market commercial product.

Even the Avengers movies, everyone’s favorite garbage media, include social and political commentary.

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The way I view it intentionally avoiding social and political commentary is in itself social and political commentary.

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It’s already not art and just mass market commercial products.

Let’s be honest, the companies allowed inclusion of the DEI and social/political commentary because they didn’t think it mattered not becuase they actually care about such issues. Now they think it might affect the bottom line they don’t want their devs doing it anymore. But they were hardly marketing and selling games based on this stuff.

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There is a difference between filling in a diversity checklist for mass appeal and “allowing” it.

Not allowing their teams to include the subjects goes against artistic freedom in the same way that forcing them does.

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Exactly. I hate it when it’s ignored and when it’s shoehorned. I just want it to be authentic.

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Let’s be honest, the companies allowed inclusion of the DEI and social/political commentary because they didn’t think it mattered not becuase they actually care about such issues.

No. They included this stuff because they thought it would make them more money. Now they think excluding it will make them more money.

It was always about the bottom line.

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In all honesty, I don’t care if a game has an agenda. Just if it’s relevant and well written

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Even if it’s relevant and well written, if its agenda is something like “white race is best race” or “trans people are insane”, then I don’t care, it’s shit. Then again, people who think that don’t usually make good art. Some have in the past, like JK Rowling, but what has she done lately? She’s a has been.

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I know nothing of the plot of that game but i bet you kill one or more corrupt kings and religious figures so im going to pre-emptively call it woke for pushing an anti religious and anti monarchal agenda

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You’re almost certainly joking but also like … yeah everything has political subtext. A lot of Internet duds are just too stupid to read it.

I think most of the people mad on the Internet about this kind of thing couldn’t pass 12th grade English, and certainly not like a 200 level English Literature course.

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Yeah, correct guess. In the game you kill the leader of the dominant religion (based on martyrdom and sacrifice) after they have refused to take action against the corruption in their own ranks, and allowed atrocities to be committed in the name of religion. Turns out (spoilers) that the head of the religion is also corrupt. Not really subtle, is it?

I want to make a game that doesn’t have a single straight white man in it, just to rustle the jimmies of these anti-woke wieners.

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Apex Legends already exists.

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I only played it on launch and I’m pretty sure the starting line up was mostly straight white dudes with a war crime fetish.

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I was mostly only joking, but after having to look them up because I don’t really play it, only 4 of the 26 characters MIGHT be straight white men, assuming they are all straight, the rest are canonically not straight or not male or not white.

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What would DEI even mean for this game? It looks like it’s about hooded and masked figures killing baddies in a medieval world.

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It means no black people or women in power

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Obligatory:

There are only two skin colors: White and political.

Two genders: Male and political.

Two sexual orientations: Straight and political.

Two religious beliefs: Christian and political.

Etc. pp.

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You’re still doing that anti AI signature nonsense after all this time!? 🤣 My brother in Darwin… That text truly means NOTHING to the bots scraping the content.

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Hmm, I thought I’d blocked all the people making uninformed comments about it by now. Glad I can add one to the list 🙂

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making uninformed comments about it

I have a bot scrapping and feeding every comment of yours to 2 different LLMs without the AI warning link, so they’re absolutely correct that you’re wasting your time

And the fun part is that blocking this account won’t stop me <3

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then you can block me too, i guess. AI companies literally use pirated media to train their models. If not even big publishing houses and studios can do anything against it, your little link will generate nothing but laughter

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So, they’re only going to make games with no narrative complexity going forward. Got it.

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This statement outlines this developer’s sociopolitical agenda.

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