Civilization 7, the latest in the classic strategy series by XCOM 2 and Midnight Suns creator Firaxis, might include Denuvo DRM at launch.
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I’ve bought and paid for every civ game since civ3…
I even paid for civ4 twice. Boxed CD and on steam… And now you’re going to treat me like a criminal with shitty DRM??? Welp, i guess i’m not buying Civ7, Sid…
No more turns…
Soooo, this means Civ 7 will now 100% be ripped off and pirated.
Sometimes I wonder why companies make decisions like this. But then I remember just how many completely braindead executives are out there.
At least it’s not denuvo anti cheat but their anti tamper is bad enough. Civ 6 is my most played game and I guess I’ll have more time to play it now after all… It’s really too bad I was very excited to try out the new features they’ve added.
You might want to try Humankind then. Sounds like Civ 7 is basically copying the ideas from it anyway
I’ve played humankind quite a bit actually. I had fun for a while but although I liked the idea at first I don’t love the leader switching system as it is implemented in humankind.
If you like the new features you can always just go ahead and play some Endless Legends, most of it is from there
Endless legend is undoubtedly a great game but I never liked the hero thing they have going on unfortunately.
Well Civ 7 will be very similar with the generals, what I didnt like personally was managing the items for the units and stuff
We shall wait for our arrested development queen empress. May she mercifully release with the nfo slur count under ten
As a Linux user, Civ 6 post launch support made me swear off of buying a 2k game ever again. Linux users got an objectively worse version of the game, and the fact they couldn’t be bothered to add the 2k account exclusive leader to the Linux version shows they really don’t care about customer loyalty. Rumors also say this game won’t support mods, which is insane, as mods made Civ 6 playable with an actually functional UI. It’s a shame, as I love the Civ series.
For the mods at least, the dev interview at PAX clearly had a moment when one guy said "the possibilities of combination with civilizations switching is going to be higher, especially with the modding community adding custom civs.
But since they said a huge part of the playerbase is console, I’m guessing mods won’t be using the steam workshop but the launcher so that consoles can have mods…
As for Linux support yeah I would like to hope, maybe the stats of Civ6 on the steamdeck could push them to make it compatible but if they have denuvo I doubt it…
Civ 7 won’t be using the 2k launcher. They announced that when they removed it from civ 6.
lol.
What in the history of electronic entertainment makes you think that they’re done with doing the shitty thing now that they stopped doing it once?
It was announced by them that 2k launcher wont be used for Civ 7, so that, that makes me think it wont be used
I’ve started playing with proton. Many say it users the GPU better and you gets better graphics but I didn’t notice anything.
What it changed is that Linux version is like many years without updates, but with proton you have the windows version which is compatible with all mods and let’s you run game of the month.
Were there some problems with sales of the previous Civ games or something that necessitate this?
Probably just some executive being a typical 9-figure jackass.
It’s also that their monetization scheme begets piracy. A game and the dlc for it should never cost more than $100
That’s a strange hill to die on. I mean sure I will also never buy this game but with inflation it’s just a matter of time.
I would much rather have a higher initial cost with no macro transactions in game.
Yeah exactly, from my understanding these are some of the most popular and best selling games around so… completely unnecessary
Better pick the correct Proton version from the get-go then Linux users, switching it more than 4-5 times within 24 hours or so will trigger Denuvo blocking the game from starting.
Or just don’t buy this crap :)
is this intended from denuvo’s side?
Probably not. I assume it registers it as different systems and blocks after too many.
Launchers themselves are a form of DRM anyway
At least launchers don’t fry your SSDs and tank your performance like Denuvo “allegedly” does.
Ok, doesn’t make what I said wrong
I didn’t mean to imply that they did. Just pointing out a difference.
DRM has never stopped me from pirating a game, but multiple times it stopped me from buying it.
I remember one moment where I knew that I would be without internet for a week, so I bought and downloaded a few singe player games. Only for some of them to require an internet connection because of DRM.
I used my phone for internet so I could pirate them, and you wouldn’t believe it but I could suddenly play them offline. I never bought anything from that publisher again.
I mean, it literally stops you from pirating uncracked games.
Name 3 uncracked games.
Far Cry 6, Nier: Replicant, RE Village, Hogwarts Legacy, etc. Source: https://gamerswiki.net/has-any-denuvo-game-been-cracked/
Edit: The first three games I listed came from the subreddit mentioned in the article.
I for sure play HL cracked days after release. I haven’t touched the others though.
… I hate to out myself here but I have played some of those games cracked.
I mean there was even a whole thing on Far cry 6 running better cracked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohLnGG92usI
And RE Village https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSMXhdPeCfk And Hogwarts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y_bab5wtHY
I looked up Nier: Replicant and yeah, also cracked (I will not share as I think that breaks rules)
EDIT: Also in the link you provided:
"Did Hogwarts Legacy remove Denuvo?
Notorious game cracker has removed Denuvo from Hogwarts Legacy after just two weeks."
Hey, I don’t judge. I might only pirate media I’ve already bought (like when I couldn’t find my copy of a movie) but firmly agree with Gabe Newell that piracy is a service issue first and foremost. Additionally if you can’t own the game you buy I can’t view it as stealing. If there is a crack for Civ 7 or Dragons Dogma 2, I’ll probably buy a copy then get the cracked version for performance.
The only one I know is Street Fighter 6 (over a year after release too) but I’m sure there’s at least two others. Your point is made, however.
I’ll name you 10: Street Fighter 6, Star Wars Squadrons, Star Wars jedi survivor, Persona 3 Reloaded, Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown, Like A Dragon Gaiden - The Man Who Erased His Name Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora Persona 5 Tactica Dragon’s Dogma 2 Assassins Creed Mirage
until they are inevitably cracked (which has been done with many denuvo games already) and pirates enjoy better performance once again.
I used to pirate back in the day and the fact that you no longer had updates or fixes was a huge issue. It’s actually the number one reason I no longer pirate games. It’s not worth my time or frustration to deal with a virus, bad crack or crashing game. Also since I stopped pirating I’ve had exactly 0 malware/trojan infections.
I pirate all the time. Until recently mostly on public trackers. Had malware once when I was like 12 and that’s about it. Sounds like a skill issue. Also, most cracked games get updates.
That’s the (unknown) future. But currently they are not cracked. Hence you can’t pirate them.
God-fucking-dammit
Words outta my mouth. FFS
Interesting that they looked at Humankind and aped only its worst design decisions lol.
If you don’t choose one civilization to play through to the end I’m out.
I will play Civ 7 but I won’t pay for it.
I don’t agree with pirating. I’ll simply not buy the game instead.
The cool thing about it, is that everybody can make that decision for themselves.
So don’t buy Civ 7, got it. Thanks!
I really liked 5, but I never got 6 and don’t plan on getting 7. Honestly, I’m not into what they offer anymore. There’s other civ-likes out there now, and there’s other genres I’d rather play anyway. I was watching civ 7 with some interest still, but for sure not with this.
I’ve been playing them since the first game and I don’t think I’ve truly loved any of them since 4. So even though I’ve bought them all thus far, it is pretty easy to skip one of I don’t like where they go. No games series can last forever.
Don’t forget you can ignore publishers.
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/DenuvoGames/curation is also useful.