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Even DotA itself was inspired by Aeon of Strife which was a StarCraft map. There were a few AOS-like maps at the time but DotA became the most popular. Then Riot came along and approached an ex DotA designer to help them make a successor. They also approached the owner of dota-allstars.com which at the time was the main site for DotA. Discussions, hero suggestions, fan art, pretty much anything dota related was there. Then, the owner, Fuck Pendragon, took the entire site down and replaced it with a LoL ad. Ofc all those hero suggestions were taken and implemented into LoL without crediting the creators. A few years later he also tried to use blizzard to sue valve for the dota rights but blizz and valve settled it out of court without him.


The steam page says they’ve sold 500k copies now. Jesus. Game looks good and it’s PvE, so… might get it, I guess


Yeah, I’m pretty sure it was a different but similar game from the same person. Even the background story was the same or similar. So… maybe just new account


And then came bumblefuck RFK Jr. with the typical level of stupidity.

Made me lol.


A friend used to spend time sneaking + auto walking into a door behind which was an npc. He did that to level up the sneaking skill… Edit: oh, op mentioned his trick as well. Still, point stands.

Meh… these types of tricks are interesting to discover, but boring to use, imo. If you’re gonna play that way imo just use cheats to max whatever skills you want. Less time wasted and more time left to enjoy the game.


Vice city has a cheat code that makes cars fly. Although it’s more like leapfrog because you need to accelerate in order for the game to push you up to fly.

So when I was a kid I used to get the tank and turn the gun around and shoot it and use it as a propeller for infinite flying.


Dunno how accurate this is but it says they sold 46k units. Not quite for nobody, is it? Even if everyone got it at 50% off, that’s still 322k after steam’s cut.


But which are these undiscovered gems? Feels like we’re talking hypotheticals because googling hasn’t produced any examples. I feel like it’s also very subjective because it’s quite easy to really like a game and feel like it’s a 10/10 for you even tho for most other people it’s just a 6/10 or maybe worse.

I enjoy stuff like caves of qud or whatever but I understand why it’s not more popular. It’s not for everyone.


Of course. But the good stuff will rise to the top. Especially in games. When it comes to bands, unfortunately not always the case, that’s true. But that’s a society issue. Universal basic income would help.


Slop, sure. There’s always people that wanna try making easy money. But I think oversaturation is when there’s too much of the good stuff or when the good stuff doesn’t get seen because of too much slop. Is that the case? Because, again, I’d argue that it’s more about the appeal and the quality of the games than a discoverability/oversaturation issue.

If you like every kind of game out there, sure, you’ll never have enough time for every single one of them. But for those that only like driving games? Or only strategy games? Or only RPGs? I’d argue that there aren’t enough high quality games out there. Way too many times I felt the need to play a specific kind of game only to look and not find anything new or to only find low quality games.


What do you mean hundreds daily? We barely get 1 a month and even that is a stretch. I actually do listen to new metal releases almost every day and I can promise you, most of them are a 6-7/10 at best. I’m not some snob or picky listener either, so it’s not a me problem.

So yeah, music might have a discoverability issue due to sheer number of stuff coming out, but I don’t think gaming is quite there yet.

As for the funding, I agree. But that’s a society issue, not a gaming specific one. There’s starving artists in every art form. If anything, game devs have it easier than most others. I remember watching a video from some game conference by a solo dev that was specialized in making solitaire games (I think? I can’t find the vid anymore, unfortunately). He was basically showing how you can make a living as a dev without ever having a hit or anything of the sort.


Well, not everything has mass appeal. That’s why I gave a metal album as an example. Despite it being a masterpiece, not everyone will listen to it because it’s not for everyone. Same with games. Not every game will sell as much as it deserves, but I believe it’s more because of it not being appealing enough and not because there’s a discoverability issue

The closest I could find about games that are masterpieces that flopped are either old games, which is a different issue or stuff like prey (2017) or Titanfall 2. So pretty big games, just not huge.


Are there too many musicians? Are there too many painters? Yes, it hurts discoverability, but honestly, if your game is good, it’ll be played, I’m pretty sure. Metal doesn’t appeal to the masses… same for games… not everything will appeal to the average gamer. But if you release the gaming equivalent of Master of puppets, people will buy it, I’m sure.


Depends what you mean by recent. I’m not even someone that plays with music, unless it’s an rpg or some other genre with a lot of talking, I just turn it off because I prefer listening to my own music.

But to answer your question, world of warcraft, Baldur’s gate3, clair obscur, Stardew valley, tropico 6, doom, hotline Miami, pretty much all the supergiant games, outer wilds, Cuphead, celeste, witcher 3, ac black flag + odyssey (fucking love those shanties).

And that’s just off the top of my head and from games I’ve played. I’m sure there’s tons more.

Edit: just as I pressed the post button I remembered how I’m always super hype for new civ games because they always have good soundtracks. Except for this lastest one, haven’t played this one.



Haha. Yeah, I had to play when I was home alone cause my wife kept making fun of the noises I was making.


Yeah, that’s fair enough about Subnautica. Might be worth trying with a trainer or something to just bypass the grinding and still experience the rest, tho.

As for outer wilds… Definitely worth giving it a shot, imo. The first bit is indeed a bit long, but shouldn’t be longer than an hour, tbh. And after that the game autosaves quite often and even when you quit, afaik. Should be more than fine for short sessions.


Alien: isolation? Pretty good horror game, imo. SOMA? Subnautica can be pretty scary,. especially for people with thalassophobia or however it’s spelled… Outer wilds? Not horror, but it is quite unsettling. Also an all around amazing game that everyone should experience, imo.



They’re all cool if you’re into the games or whatever they cover, imo. Having books on stuff that you’re not familiar with feels weird, imo. Google Books covering your favourite games and stuff and I’m sure you’ll find plenty. But if you don’t care about that and just want cool gamer stuff to put on the coffee table, The Game Console 2.0: A Photographic History from Atari to Xbox might be one of those. There’s a LOTR illustrated edition. There’s a tomb raider cookbook and travel guide. World of warcraft also has tons of cool art and a cookbook. There’s God of war lore and legends. There’s The Art of Video Games from pacman to mass effect, etc. And for more, there’s This site.


That’s part of it and it’s probably part of the staying power, sure. But I’m pretty sure it exploded before it started doing that. Iirc, quite soon after release, Ninja became one of the most popular streamers on twitch, breaking records and stuff and he even did a stream with Drake which at the time was the biggest stream ever. People were speculating even then that maybe epic paid Drake, but well… could just as easily have been just Drake being Drake.

As for why it got popular in the first place… I think it’s just being at the right time in the right place. There was Minecraft hunger games, h1z1, PUBG and probably a few other smaller ones. They were all quite popular and then Fortnite came along and made it more accessible and arguably more fun and stuff as well. A few of my friends used to try pretty much all the popular games, especially shooters. And besides CS, Fortnite was definitely the one that kept them engaged the longest. That’s just anecdotal, but well… if it worked on us, it’s probably worked on many.


The looting you can skip with cheats. Technically you can skip a lot of traveling that way as well. But that’s a big part of the game, imo. If you don’t enjoy spending time in the game, then all you want to do is shoot people? There’s better games for that.


One’s assassin’s Creed/horizon zero dawn/god of war, etc. The other is path of exile, diablo, torchlight, grim dawn etc.


Because movies and series don’t need it as much. Because piracy is a thing. You can watch any series that was pulled from air even if there’s no DVD because you can download it. Even if you download some games, you can’t play them because they’re online only. See the crew as a prime example, as others have said.


That’s 2 out of 10, not some hundreds. So if we’re going by the odds, SKG has a 1 in 5 chance of getting a law passed. Better than nothing.


Might be something else. I’m also using boost and there’s no issues here.


Thanks again for these, fun read as always. Really sucks to hear about the health stuff. Rooting for you to get good news from the specialist!



Time spent riding during missions has never felt like fluff to me. As it’s usually filled up with dialogue and stuff. Plus the nature and views and stuff are relaxing.

For the in-between missions riding you can just get one of those cheat menu mods and use the teleport feature.




Not American. Also, assumed that was on top of the ones from the contract. Being forced to use 10 days of my vacation time when they want me to isn’t much of a bonus.

And yeah, I guess being given the option of cash vs switch would be cool, but when the bonus is 7.5k + 2 weeks off + more bonuses announced for later on, it feels a bit shit to complain about a free switch. Especially when you can just sell it to get the money.


Yeah, that’s fair, had forgotten about that. Then again, that’s one of the games where cheats can make it playable.


I mean, if you’ve enjoyed Skyrim, honestly you can just google “best RPGs of all time” and play any that will show up. I’m gonna go against the grain here and say that Skyrim’s world is beautiful and the combat is cool but there’s nothing special about the story or the quests. Try enderall, fallout London, gothic 1+2 + archolos, mass effect 1-3, disco Elysium, Witcher 1-3, Baldur’s Gate 1-3, Neverwinter nights 1+2, dragon age origins, fallout new Vegas, pillars of eternity1+2, Kotor 1+2, south park stick of truth + fractured butthole, cyberpunk, fable the lost chapters, divinity original sin 1+2, dark messiah of might and magic(fun and underrated, imo), etc.

If at any point you feel like the combat is too hard or whatever you can use cheats and just enjoy the story. All of these have pretty good ones. At least all of these have less grinding and better story than Pokemon games, in my experience.

Beyond that, just go for popular, widely acclaimed games such as rdr2, bioshock, whichever doom you want, portal 1+2, etc.


It’s literally in the title that they also received 7500$ bonus. Or is ignoring everything just to complain a cool thing to do still? (Also 2 weeks paid time off, but hey, I’m sure that’s normal for most jobs)


Okay, good, that wasn’t just me. Had to read it 3 times… anyway, bring it! Loved postal 2, stupid as it may be.


Hell yeah! Played those games so much. I remember even duelling online with a classmate. Was great


Nah, that wouldn’t be enough to differentiate PoE to hzd, imo. It’s like comparing Max Payne to CSGO. Or I dunno… rocket league to Football manager… or Mario party to street figther… trying to cover as many bases here to cover the games that you might be more familiar with. xD. Point is, in both games you get a character which you level up and customize by doing quests and killing mobs, but that’s pretty much where the similarities end, as far as the gameplay, mechanics and goals of fans go.

And for the record, despite this also being called an arpg, it’ll be very different from both PoE and hzd. ARPG seems to be as vague as “driving game” or “shooter”.


Survivorslike is just one option, auto shooter is the same thing and doesn’t use vampire survivors’ name.

And well, in this case, I just saw op say that this game was gonna be an arpg and because I play a lot of PoE, last epoch, etc. I was expecting something in that vein. Then I open the link and I see 2 seconds of something that looks more like hades or god of war and I was disappointed. So if me wishing we had better terms for various genres makes me a prescriptivist, I guess I am one, in this case.

Also tdggrpg is too complicated of a subgenre name, I feel xD


We need more subgenres! What do you call breath of the wild or the spiderman games in that case?

Imo god of war/ horizon are aptly named because they’re action focused RPGs.

We need new, better name for the “diablo-like” games, however. I feel like those are different enough that there’s not enough “rpg” left in them beyond the character building elements. Survivorslike aren’t RPGs despite them having character leveling and stuff so why should diablo 4 /Poe be called rpgs?

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