When you start a racing game, do you start with the best cars unlocked or do you play the game to earn them? This is the same, you can do bounties by yourself with the arrow but it’s going to take much longer than doing high level bounties or other missions as part of a crew.
When you start a racing game, do you start with the best cars unlocked or do you play the game to earn them?
Yes. Most racing games have an arcade/zero stakes mode were you can race with almost any game. The gated progression has been on a separate story/career mode since the early 2000s. Except, you know, on the scam live service AAA mtx whale hunting games.
Last nfs game I played, I started with a clunker and did missions to earn money to buy better cars.
You know what, I’d prefer if they took the playing part out and just gave me everything so I can stare at my cars and be bored because there’s no progression.
Dude literally mentioned that racing games offer arcade (a number of things unlocked) and career (progression) as separate modes, dunno why you ignored it
Sure, but racing games simply gate your progression for gameplay purposes. Here I’m just working at a job to eventually be able to afford my own ship, and I already do that for a house in real life. The progression isn’t gated by game mechanics, it’s gated by landlordism and capitalism. If I wanted to work a space job I’d just go played eve.
I played with a friend until I could afford my own ship with in game currency. Did whatever missions I enjoyed playing to the point they started paying out pretty good. Bought more ships with in game currency.
I never cared about what is OP, but I also don’t care about pvp so there’s that.
If you want to try any ship, either rent them, wait for ies or whatever its called, or ask random strangers.
Their business model is developing a game. Not completing a game and releasing it, just eternal development. And honestly it’s working really well for them. Why change when people keep handing them money?
Well many live service games are just that, but actually don’t feel like a scam. Warframe for instance, still considers itself in beta if you ask the devs. Their reasoning is that when the game releases, the development stops, in the old fashion game development point of view.
Sounds more like warframe is using the early access model to me. I think that’s fine. Many great games are in early access that are worth their price even in their unfinished state.
Star Citizen feels different, even though it’s also early access. In part because of the weirdly priced ships. There are ships that cost thousands dollars. Like, what’s the justification for that? Most people spend way less on games for a year, but this game asks this price just to gain access to one asset?
Another part is the ever expanding scope. It feels like they don’t really want to release the game. They’ve found there’s no point in actually finishing the game when they can just keep selling the promise of the definitive space sim game. Keep giving them more money and they will promise more.
I’ve spent a total of $5 on the game and FWIW, I think I got my money’s worth. The game’s development is severely mismanaged and I don’t think it’ll ever realize its vision, but I think it’s worth checking it out even if it’s just for looking at some of its technological achievements.
Im spent a good bit of money in the game for better or for worse I think this is the way it should be tried Dont spend the money on the ships. Buy a basic package and purchase ships with in game money.
Last time I tried it, I wasn’t impressed by what I saw. Besides the ridiculous system requirements, it just felt so weird. They spent all this money on this game and the NPC’s just stood there, on chairs, on tables etc. not doing anything.
As someone that has played a fuck ton of Star Citizen and bought a few ships… Don’t. It used to be a game. Now it’s a marketplace without the game. Every time they update it they make things worse and break everything else. Nowadays I can’t even get into it for more than an hour before I realize it’s the same game as it’s ever been or worse. I’d rather just go play something else. But don’t worry, they’re more than happy to sell you a ship for $2,000 that’s been “in development” since you were in highschool.
Screw that ship. The worse part is the two hidden shops you see only after spending a certain, high amount of cash on the game. So “regular players” don’t see it and “whales” do
There is something called “concierge.” It is a tier of player that has spent 1000 usd or more on the game. They get access to extended ship sales, exclusive skins, etc. I will not confirm nor deny that I am concierge, although I love the game. I tell all my friends who want to get into the game to not buy anything more than the base 45 dollar starter package. Do they listen, no.
Ah yes, let’s enable the whales even more in throwing away money to fuel their addiction! I feel like this is something for the EU to look at, after loot boxes and other gacha mechanics. In my country they tried to ban them but failed.
I get it, but its not really gambling like gacha and loot boxes. You are buying something, the gamble is whether or not the project actually gets finished. What’ll make you real mad is the different levels of concierge and the fact they sell a 3500 usd packagae. Although thats not really meant to be bought with new money and anyone who does buy that with new money has a problem.
It’s a cool tech demo, it does things the other space sims do not. But be aware during the free periods the game tends to run worse, it depends on servers a lot.
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Meh. Wake me up when Squadron 42 is released… And actually reviews well.
Free, sure, as long as you don’t want a ship
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You get ten ships to fly for the free fly event.
Last time I played in the free week, they gave you a light combat ship, The Arrow.
Or you know you could join a crew and man a turret until you can afford your own ship bought with in game credits.
Ah great, space labor for when my earth labor day is over and I really need to unwind.
I believe it’s called playing the game.
When you start a racing game, do you start with the best cars unlocked or do you play the game to earn them? This is the same, you can do bounties by yourself with the arrow but it’s going to take much longer than doing high level bounties or other missions as part of a crew.
Yes. Most racing games have an arcade/zero stakes mode were you can race with almost any game. The gated progression has been on a separate story/career mode since the early 2000s. Except, you know, on the scam live service AAA mtx whale hunting games.
Last nfs game I played, I started with a clunker and did missions to earn money to buy better cars.
You know what, I’d prefer if they took the playing part out and just gave me everything so I can stare at my cars and be bored because there’s no progression.
Dude literally mentioned that racing games offer arcade (a number of things unlocked) and career (progression) as separate modes, dunno why you ignored it
Sure, but racing games simply gate your progression for gameplay purposes. Here I’m just working at a job to eventually be able to afford my own ship, and I already do that for a house in real life. The progression isn’t gated by game mechanics, it’s gated by landlordism and capitalism. If I wanted to work a space job I’d just go played eve.
Or you could play a game that’s not exclusively built around currently OP cash shop items (that get nerfed after the refund period is over).
I guess I played it differently than you.
I played with a friend until I could afford my own ship with in game currency. Did whatever missions I enjoyed playing to the point they started paying out pretty good. Bought more ships with in game currency.
I never cared about what is OP, but I also don’t care about pvp so there’s that.
If you want to try any ship, either rent them, wait for ies or whatever its called, or ask random strangers.
No one is stoping you though? This whole thread of argument is so damn weird.
Check out hardspace shipbreaker for that but good
Bt this point, it is reasonable to assume that Star Citizen is a self-enrichment scheme for the founder’s, Chris Roberts, family.
Nah
Most pyramid schemes are free to enter into too.
We used to have to pay… They must have ran out of gamers who pay now.
Nahh
Every time I see some SC news I look up to see if there’s any release date announced for SQ42 yet.
It was originally supposed to release in 2014 and it still doesn’t have a release date!
Their business model is developing a game. Not completing a game and releasing it, just eternal development. And honestly it’s working really well for them. Why change when people keep handing them money?
Well many live service games are just that, but actually don’t feel like a scam. Warframe for instance, still considers itself in beta if you ask the devs. Their reasoning is that when the game releases, the development stops, in the old fashion game development point of view.
Sounds more like warframe is using the early access model to me. I think that’s fine. Many great games are in early access that are worth their price even in their unfinished state.
Star Citizen feels different, even though it’s also early access. In part because of the weirdly priced ships. There are ships that cost thousands dollars. Like, what’s the justification for that? Most people spend way less on games for a year, but this game asks this price just to gain access to one asset?
Another part is the ever expanding scope. It feels like they don’t really want to release the game. They’ve found there’s no point in actually finishing the game when they can just keep selling the promise of the definitive space sim game. Keep giving them more money and they will promise more.
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I’m confused how you think the insurance will work, as it seems you believe the 6 months in your example couldn’t be extended or renewed?
I doubt players following the ToS will ever lose ships bought with real money permanently as it would generate extremely negative press.
Though EVE online allows essentially the same thing and you can absolutely lose those ships and equipment.
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I’ve spent a total of $5 on the game and FWIW, I think I got my money’s worth. The game’s development is severely mismanaged and I don’t think it’ll ever realize its vision, but I think it’s worth checking it out even if it’s just for looking at some of its technological achievements.
Im spent a good bit of money in the game for better or for worse I think this is the way it should be tried Dont spend the money on the ships. Buy a basic package and purchase ships with in game money.
Is it still free if I wouldn’t like to try it?
Last time I tried it, I wasn’t impressed by what I saw. Besides the ridiculous system requirements, it just felt so weird. They spent all this money on this game and the NPC’s just stood there, on chairs, on tables etc. not doing anything.
Nice tech demo tho.
As someone that has played a fuck ton of Star Citizen and bought a few ships… Don’t. It used to be a game. Now it’s a marketplace without the game. Every time they update it they make things worse and break everything else. Nowadays I can’t even get into it for more than an hour before I realize it’s the same game as it’s ever been or worse. I’d rather just go play something else. But don’t worry, they’re more than happy to sell you a ship for $2,000 that’s been “in development” since you were in highschool.
Screw that ship. The worse part is the two hidden shops you see only after spending a certain, high amount of cash on the game. So “regular players” don’t see it and “whales” do
Yo wtf? Please elaborate!
There is something called “concierge.” It is a tier of player that has spent 1000 usd or more on the game. They get access to extended ship sales, exclusive skins, etc. I will not confirm nor deny that I am concierge, although I love the game. I tell all my friends who want to get into the game to not buy anything more than the base 45 dollar starter package. Do they listen, no.
Ah yes, let’s enable the whales even more in throwing away money to fuel their addiction! I feel like this is something for the EU to look at, after loot boxes and other gacha mechanics. In my country they tried to ban them but failed.
I get it, but its not really gambling like gacha and loot boxes. You are buying something, the gamble is whether or not the project actually gets finished. What’ll make you real mad is the different levels of concierge and the fact they sell a 3500 usd packagae. Although thats not really meant to be bought with new money and anyone who does buy that with new money has a problem.
If this isn’t proof that it’s made to extract as much money from you as possible then I don’t know what is.
It’s a cool tech demo, it does things the other space sims do not. But be aware during the free periods the game tends to run worse, it depends on servers a lot.
Amazingly, I can’t even get their website to work long enough to sign up. Bodes well for playing the game…
Once upon a time I was so excited for this game. Amazing how little fucks I give now.
I would not take the game if they have me every ship for free now.
More like ScamCitizen, what they are doing is plain old fraud and deception.