Brother the company is owned by Microsoft now. You can complain about their product in any way you want. Its sold under Microsoft, you can complain. Again, Microsoft
People have complained about FO4’s graphics since release. I always thought it was a good looking game. Coming back after the next-gen update I still think it looks good.
IMO the graphics look great, it’s just that it’s so clearly built on the creation engine. Like, the models and textures and lighting are great, but the animation is just so…creation engine
It always looked like nearly next generation. Better than New Vegas, but when stacked up against the other releases that year like Witcher 3 and Bloodborne it just felt a but underwhelming.
Reminded me that Bethesda does release some great / huge games.
Albeit quite bugged at release,
but since they (usually) embrace the modding scene, lots of this can be / has been patched and even improved by the community.
The Next Gen update is a stupid cash-grab though, and imo should have never happened…
Albeit quite bugged at release,
but since they (usually) embrace the modding scene, lots of this can be / has been patched and even improved by the community
Except that all of their patches broke all the mods.
FO4 also was a mediocre fallout game but a decent FPS and base builder
The most thriving mod communities are ones for games that have essentially been abandoned by their publisher. Bethesda is infamous for trying to integrate with its modding scene and personally I don’t care for it.
Well the updates to Skyrim, Fallout and lack of modding tools for Starfield seems to indicate that it is now a reality. I seriously cannot fathom why they would sabotage themselves like that. It’s absolutely obvious since at least Oblivion that mods are lifeline and reason for success of Bethesda rpg games yet here we are.
But the point of Bethesda isn’t to sell their games. It’s to sell GamePass. Nobody has to play Fallout, they just have to want to play Fallout enough to buy GamePass.
No, not really. After Starfield released mod scene EXPLODED capital letters, there were hundred new mods every day. However, without proper tools 95% of those mods are very simple reskins and modders got burned out and bored on this fast. Now we are 8 months after release with still no tools and that enthusiasm is largely gone. Part of it will still be back, but the best moment to establish a vibrant mod community has passed.
I’m far from an expert with mod development, but this seems like the best way out of the mess they’ve put themselves in. I think modders would come in droves if they made it really easy
The only reason they are going to New Vegas for season 2, is to lay down a whole bunch of Bethesda-fied revisionist history about the whole Nevada area.
They would want to torch the playing field, and make creating a New Vegas 2 that is worth a damn impossible, in anticipation of the possibility Microsoft might put Obsidian on Fallout too, after Outer Worlds 2.
After the studio closures Microsoft just did? Todd is probably, and absolutely justifiably, scared shitless with Obsidian and MGM Amazon’s ‘friendly’ competition.
They actually made the load time worse with their update. Not by a little, by a fucking tonne. Going from any interior to outside now takes like a full minute and 30 seconds, its ridiculous.
It took that time before the update for me as well. 1-2 minutes for every loading screen. There was a mod for that (before the next-gen update) that you could not load via nexus, bc the setup was a little more conplex, but it worked really well (see https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10283 )
The method of this mod was to speed up the fps only while in the loading screen to 300-350 bc the loading times were somehow tied to the fps. Well done Bethesda.
It seemed a lot faster for me prior to this latest update, but they were never superb. Here’s hoping either the mods can be fixed or bethesda can get their shit together.
Super strange because on PS5 the load times are extremely fast since the patch. indoor / outdoor transitions are never longer than 4 or 5 seconds, and quick travel maybe 6 or so
Hah, those are the load times I used to get on my Xbox One with its dinky HDD. At the very least, The Midnight Ride has been updated to post next-gen, and I now get really small loading times (<5 sec) on my SSD. The game feels less rough around the edges, too. Only took 3 hours to set up :,)
Xcom2 had a nice “feature” where if you hit capslock right when the mission starts to load it paused all animations and actually loaded the damn mission far quicker than normal
I’ve literally always done this with fallout 4. I think Skyrim too. Not because I thought it was improving anything mind you, it was taking so long that I would tab out to scroll some website while I waited.
Todd Howard: we hear you fans, we are currently working on updates for Morrowind, Starfield and Elder Scrolls Online which will break add-on/mod support and ruin the frame rate for those games instead of just FO4!
Are you familiar with Tamriel Rebuilt? The team has been adding content to the mainland of Morrowind for 20 years. They’re technically not finished, but there’s plenty to do.
You have one story, thats it. They can update that game til PS7 is a thing and you will have 1 story. I love the game but the replay value is minimal, at best
So, they’re giving it the Skyrim treatment. I think it’s received about 10 version updates since AE launched like 2 years ago. I ended up downloading a modlist that was 1.5.97 (the original version of Skyrim SE) and ended up sticking with it since it’s future proofed.
They definitely are, I have been using 1.6 for a while, it’s just a pain in the ass to keep updating SKSE mods or those mods that support 1.6 but only older versions because the authors don’t make mods anymore.
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My “nExT gEn” update experience:
FYI, most mods I installed are from:
https://themidnightride.moddinglinked.com/
https://eso-ui.com/fallout4-high-end/
That’s kinda spoiled, lol
Brother the company is owned by Microsoft now. You can complain about their product in any way you want. Its sold under Microsoft, you can complain. Again, Microsoft
I’m not your brother.
so much about blahaj.zone…
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Y u do dis?
It’s an old South Park meme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH3K2rkkU7g
Because lol
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People have complained about FO4’s graphics since release. I always thought it was a good looking game. Coming back after the next-gen update I still think it looks good.
IMO the graphics look great, it’s just that it’s so clearly built on the creation engine. Like, the models and textures and lighting are great, but the animation is just so…creation engine
It always looked like nearly next generation. Better than New Vegas, but when stacked up against the other releases that year like Witcher 3 and Bloodborne it just felt a but underwhelming.
I was very let down with them on release. The animations are worse though.
Yeah, but you’ll get a few hours in and uninstall because you stop playing.
Currently at 30ish hours and still enjoying it.
Reminded me that Bethesda does release some great / huge games.
Albeit quite bugged at release,
but since they (usually) embrace the modding scene, lots of this can be / has been patched and even improved by the community.
The Next Gen update is a stupid cash-grab though, and imo should have never happened…
An official modpack would have been much better.
Except that all of their patches broke all the mods.
FO4 also was a mediocre fallout game but a decent FPS and base builder
The world is great to explore. Lots of hidden goofs to uncover, but yeah, you play New Vegas for story.
I also play FO1 and 2 for the story.
How did you roll back to before the game was updated?
No offense but this is totally 🤡 meme. You just walked deeper and deeper into bullshit and convinced yourself to keep stepping the whole way
The most thriving mod communities are ones for games that have essentially been abandoned by their publisher. Bethesda is infamous for trying to integrate with its modding scene and personally I don’t care for it.
Leave Bethsoft alone guys. They’re all out of fun game ideas and need something to do.
They could try fixing something for a change
This is starting to feel like their way of blocking Fallout London from releasing indefinitely.
bethesda has historically hated mods and the people who make them. its why their games have such a small modding scene
I seriously doubt that. Bethesda’s titles are generally some of the most moddable mainstream titles.I missed sarcasm.that was my point yes. in fact bethesda loves mods so much they will straight up hire modders as devs. i think the sim settlement guy got hired
I believe you may have missed some sarcasm in that comment.
Whoops. Chalking this up to Poe’s law
They’ve certainly gotten more hostile to mods since the M$ acquisition. At least mods that don’t want to play ball with the creation club nonsense.
Well the updates to Skyrim, Fallout and lack of modding tools for Starfield seems to indicate that it is now a reality. I seriously cannot fathom why they would sabotage themselves like that. It’s absolutely obvious since at least Oblivion that mods are lifeline and reason for success of Bethesda rpg games yet here we are.
the games sold just fine on console, before modding was possible on it. never got this modding saves bethesda narrative. its just a neat addition
I think for profit companies want to sell more than fine.
But the point of Bethesda isn’t to sell their games. It’s to sell GamePass. Nobody has to play Fallout, they just have to want to play Fallout enough to buy GamePass.
their games did that too
My gut feeling is that the procedural generation thing in Startfield somehow absorbs some people’s need for mods.
Minecraft has procedural stuff but still has lots of mods.
Yes, clearing out the exact same building 40 times is much more entertaining than having a different building layout. /s
No, not really. After Starfield released mod scene EXPLODED capital letters, there were hundred new mods every day. However, without proper tools 95% of those mods are very simple reskins and modders got burned out and bored on this fast. Now we are 8 months after release with still no tools and that enthusiasm is largely gone. Part of it will still be back, but the best moment to establish a vibrant mod community has passed.
The updates will continue until the free modications stop getting updated.
Shouldn’t they just beg Bethesda to incorporate the script extenders directly into the new releases or the script extender devs to update?
I’m far from an expert with mod development, but this seems like the best way out of the mess they’ve put themselves in. I think modders would come in droves if they made it really easy
Reason #150 on why Fallout New Vegas is the best Fallout:
Bethesda despises it so much that it’ll never get an update, remaster, or get repacked into an anniversary edition.
No Todds, No Masters
Given that it was made by a different company, doing anything with it may actually be legally complicated.
Isn’t Obsidian also owned by Microsoft? Pretty sure it’s just a matter of Satya Nadella giving the greenlight
Yes. Which is why there’s so much speculation about the fallout rights being given back to Obsidian for more.
I wouldn’t mind west coast to be taken by obsidian and east coast by beth tbh.
Naw fuck that, Bethesda gets from Virginia up through New England, I want obsidian to get a crack at the southeast and Midwest
based obsidian dying to save new vegas, modern day jesus christ
Yet Bethesda are/were the publishers when it released and Beth owned the fallout IP then and continues to own the IP.
Different company but the same dev tools and game engine.
Such a weird narrative that Bethesda hates New Vegas. Fallout 3 also doesn’t have a remaster or anniversary edition.
With Bethesda’s blessing, season two of the show likely revolves around New Vegas.
Personal conspiracy theory time:
The only reason they are going to New Vegas for season 2, is to lay down a whole bunch of Bethesda-fied revisionist history about the whole Nevada area.
They would want to torch the playing field, and make creating a New Vegas 2 that is worth a damn impossible, in anticipation of the possibility Microsoft might put Obsidian on Fallout too, after Outer Worlds 2.
After the studio closures Microsoft just did? Todd is probably, and absolutely justifiably, scared shitless with Obsidian and MGM Amazon’s ‘friendly’ competition.
They actually made the load time worse with their update. Not by a little, by a fucking tonne. Going from any interior to outside now takes like a full minute and 30 seconds, its ridiculous.
It took that time before the update for me as well. 1-2 minutes for every loading screen. There was a mod for that (before the next-gen update) that you could not load via nexus, bc the setup was a little more conplex, but it worked really well (see https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10283 )
The method of this mod was to speed up the fps only while in the loading screen to 300-350 bc the loading times were somehow tied to the fps. Well done Bethesda.
It seemed a lot faster for me prior to this latest update, but they were never superb. Here’s hoping either the mods can be fixed or bethesda can get their shit together.
Console “tweaks”
Super strange because on PS5 the load times are extremely fast since the patch. indoor / outdoor transitions are never longer than 4 or 5 seconds, and quick travel maybe 6 or so
That is strange for sure.
That’s the classic Bethesda experience.
Hah, those are the load times I used to get on my Xbox One with its dinky HDD. At the very least, The Midnight Ride has been updated to post next-gen, and I now get really small loading times (<5 sec) on my SSD. The game feels less rough around the edges, too. Only took 3 hours to set up :,)
I dunno, I’m looking for more like 8+ hours of modding troubleshooting to really get into it.
Alt-tab until you hear the music stop and it will load quicker.
That is the hackiest workaround I’ve ever heard lol but I will give it a shot, thanks.
Downside is you have to keep the seriously lacking, buggy-ass radio on.
Xcom2 had a nice “feature” where if you hit capslock right when the mission starts to load it paused all animations and actually loaded the damn mission far quicker than normal
I’ve literally always done this with fallout 4. I think Skyrim too. Not because I thought it was improving anything mind you, it was taking so long that I would tab out to scroll some website while I waited.
Todd Howard: we hear you fans, we are currently working on updates for Morrowind, Starfield and Elder Scrolls Online which will break add-on/mod support and ruin the frame rate for those games instead of just FO4!
I’d be thrilled to get another Morrowind expansion.
Too bad, you get a battlepass instead!
Are you familiar with Tamriel Rebuilt? The team has been adding content to the mainland of Morrowind for 20 years. They’re technically not finished, but there’s plenty to do.
There’s also Project: Tamriel with Skyrim: Home of the Nords and Province: Cyrodiil. There’s not as much content as Tamriel Rebuilt, but all are being actively worked on.
Yes! Tamriel rebuilt is really cool.
Elder Scrolls Online isn’t a Bethesda (BGS) game.
You have one story, thats it. They can update that game til PS7 is a thing and you will have 1 story. I love the game but the replay value is minimal, at best
I see the FPS still maxed at 80 through DP connection and the Fallout 4 Script Extender no longer works. The XDI and Be Exceptional mods have
’d
Still haven’t updated to the new update. You just have to swap an app manifest file, takes 5 seconds.
I’m not sure why people with modded setups updated, I guess they had yet to learn that lesson.
So current fallout 4 install is fine and safe?
The one before the ‘next gen’ update.
Looks like I’ll have to downgrade then.
So, they’re giving it the Skyrim treatment. I think it’s received about 10 version updates since AE launched like 2 years ago. I ended up downloading a modlist that was 1.5.97 (the original version of Skyrim SE) and ended up sticking with it since it’s future proofed.
1.6 mods are also stable now, but of course Bethesda shits out the patches every now and then so you need to downgrade anyway, just to 1.6.
They definitely are, I have been using 1.6 for a while, it’s just a pain in the ass to keep updating SKSE mods or those mods that support 1.6 but only older versions because the authors don’t make mods anymore.
No, they’re not.
I play vanilla. As long as the updates stop my constant crashes on Linux, update away.
Yeah that sounds right.