Logitech are fucking dead to me after the shit they pulled with the harmony remotes.
Don’t @ me about the age of the hardware, it’s the practice they still do today: make hardware dependant on their services, then cripple them when they feel like it. You cannot trust them
I’ve been using Logitech for decades because it’s Swiss, and good.
At least it was good, since the ‘Logi’ rebrand they started to follow the enshitification road and apparently they are trying to do some mouses with mandatory AI software bits.
Today I’m not sure my next mouse will be a Logitech, but I’ll cross that bridge when I’ll need a new mouse.
I’m definitely gonna be doing some price research across regions and pre/post Apr 2025 before buying anything from now on. I’m not purchasing product from companies who socializing the US tariff costs to other nations.
I hated Canada because of this relationship. I have been asking for a long time for Canada to get some backbone and not rely on the USA for everything. This is finally our time to shine.
I also own two vertical mices, their most expensive ones.
They are built like shit and ive had to replace switches multiple times. I moved to protoarc trackball for everything but gaming.
I will be replacing my logi with keychron m5 as its “premium material” has completely disintegrated in like 5 years and its just nasty.
Wait till you discover their main racing wheel is a 25 year old design that they remove features from and raise the price with every re release.
Logi is a shit company. There is 0 reason to buy any of their stuff.
I hear about this a lot, but I feel like it must be a problem with newer models. I have a G502 from 2016 (pre-logo change) that gets heavy office/gaming use 8-10 hours most days and still works perfectly. The metal scroll wheel is pretty corroded though.
Gonna call bullshit on that one. I’ve been using the G502 for years and I like the feel of it. I’ve gone through 3 and keep a spare in box for when it starts to double click. The X has been chugging for a couple of years now, but I’ve used a lot of mice, I really shouldn’t have to spend $80 to get a mouse that lasts more than 6 months.
Still, they absolutely want to force people to a monthly fee.
That’s what I did. Bought new processor, graphics card, monitor OLED wide-screen, all last year. I knew this shit was coming. These pieces will last me well past this orange fuck face.
Can I 3d print something like the g602 mouse? I can solder components together and do a little programming if need be but designing something like that is way over my head. Not being able to find a replacement for that thing is killing me.
My main complaint is that the Statial B only has 2 thumb buttons, and I’d prefer to have at least 4. I’ve considered modifying the design of the relevant plate, but there’s still the issue of not having ports to wire the switches to the raspberry pi it runs on.
I also have a ploopy mouse like the other commenter mentioned. It’s definitely not a replacement for a G602 (that’s also the mouse I used before switching to open source), but it gets the job done. I just need to buck up and finish assembling the Statial B
To tell the truth, I over simplified the description of why it’s difficult. Part of the assembly is a couple of custom PCBs, one of which holds ports for cables that go to each button. That custom PCB is technically what runs out of room, though the side plate that holds the thumb buttons is also limited in space
Yeah, that’s all beyond my abilities to figure out. Looking at my 602 it looks like the side buttons have their own board which is connected to the main board via ribbon cable. I thought it might be possible to do something similar with this one but I don’t know enough about electronics/mechanical engineering to figure that on my own. It’s still a really cool project though.
It looks like you can buy a fully assembled mouse, a build it yourself kit, or do it from scratch with the schematics. Doesn’t come with quite as many side buttons though
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Logitech are fucking dead to me after the shit they pulled with the harmony remotes.
Don’t @ me about the age of the hardware, it’s the practice they still do today: make hardware dependant on their services, then cripple them when they feel like it. You cannot trust them
You didn’t seriously think China or Logitech was going to pay that tariff, did you? Be prepared for a LOT of stuff to cost more.
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The way tariffs work is companies pass on the cost of those tariffs directly to consumers by raising their prices. THAT’S how tariffs work.
Nobody is getting “punished” by this except consumers.
Exactly. Tariffs are a “pass through cost.”
So, yeah, most people know exactly how they work.
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Better than offering literally no information at all, which you seem to enjoy.
My mouse is now worth 25% more?
Suck it, Bitcoin!
Should have bought all the stock during the last Black Friday.
Waiting for a company to loudly raise their prices.
“YEEHAW!! Lord Trump is bravely losing to the Chinese so we’re passing that loss on to YOU!”
https://qz.com/companies-adding-tariff-surcharges-1851775290/
In the US*
I would be interested to see what other countries are seeing.
Germany
Logitech MX Master 2S from 53.34 €
Logitech MX Master 3S now 75.99 € up from 74 € at the beginning of April.
This is the MX Master 3S from the article (said to be going from 100 to 120$)
80 Swiss francs today, lowest at 62 (80 chf is around 98$).
I use that mouse for work and really like it. I was debating getting one for my home PC, too…
I’ve been using Logitech for decades because it’s Swiss, and good.
At least it was good, since the ‘Logi’ rebrand they started to follow the enshitification road and apparently they are trying to do some mouses with mandatory AI software bits.
Today I’m not sure my next mouse will be a Logitech, but I’ll cross that bridge when I’ll need a new mouse.
But Logitech software is already terrible.
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They also increased prices in Canada, by 7-15% afaict.
eg: MX Master 3S went up ~14%, $140 to $160.
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I’m more wondering if corporations are going to corporation and just use the US tariffs as the excuse for globally up the prices.
They absolutely will, but no one wants to go alone. First they have to collude, which may already be happening.
Already every commercial I hear on the radio is talking about “tariff pricing”.
Sony already did that with the PlayStation didn’t they?
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Maybe tariffs were just a way to convert what could have been corporate greed into Trumpian incompetence
Thanks conservatives, non-voters, and 3rd party voters.
You’re reaaaaaal smart. Give yourselves a pat on the back.
Downvote for 3rd party.
Every party more is important as to not give any party full control.
You’re right, red vs blue isn’t the real fight, and the people can’t win until they start acting against the real threat to the people.
It’s sad you’re being downvoted. The two party system needs to go.
Red dragon stuff is pretty ok, just saying.
I got secret santa’d a Red Dragon mechanical Keyboard and ended up buying a matching mouse & speakers.
I recommend them to anyone who asks.
Canada price is up like the US price, unacceptable.
Because we’re physically attached to those fucking morons, our prices for everything will also go up. I hope every Canadian remembers this.
I’m definitely gonna be doing some price research across regions and pre/post Apr 2025 before buying anything from now on. I’m not purchasing product from companies who socializing the US tariff costs to other nations.
I hated Canada because of this relationship. I have been asking for a long time for Canada to get some backbone and not rely on the USA for everything. This is finally our time to shine.
Logitech was already overpriced and poor quality.
I own 2 of their vertical mouses
There aren’t really many alternatives readily available
The hardware has gotten a lot better, but they’re really not targeting the high the market anyway
I also own two vertical mices, their most expensive ones. They are built like shit and ive had to replace switches multiple times. I moved to protoarc trackball for everything but gaming. I will be replacing my logi with keychron m5 as its “premium material” has completely disintegrated in like 5 years and its just nasty.
The MX Master 2S fared better than one MX Master 3 and the 3S I got from an RMA…
The surface is already getting gummy.
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Wait till you discover their main racing wheel is a 25 year old design that they remove features from and raise the price with every re release. Logi is a shit company. There is 0 reason to buy any of their stuff.
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Oh I did not know it was that bad, i just tought they were overpriced, overhyped normie brand that is popular since it has better packaging than ACME
I still have my Logitech BT mouse from 2005. Still working great. Are their newer products bad?
Yeah, my old logi from pre 2010 are nice but now jts just low quality overpriced stuff with switched that constantly fail.
Google “Logitech mouse double clicking”. If you don’t get top of the line, good chance you’ll be double clicking in 6 months of moderate use.
I hear about this a lot, but I feel like it must be a problem with newer models. I have a G502 from 2016 (pre-logo change) that gets heavy office/gaming use 8-10 hours most days and still works perfectly. The metal scroll wheel is pretty corroded though.
It’s hit and miss. I was getting bad switches in Logitech mice back in 2005. The double-click problem has been around for a long time.
My 2 g502 mice and 3 keyboards in use, one from 2004, beg to differ.
Gonna call bullshit on that one. I’ve been using the G502 for years and I like the feel of it. I’ve gone through 3 and keep a spare in box for when it starts to double click. The X has been chugging for a couple of years now, but I’ve used a lot of mice, I really shouldn’t have to spend $80 to get a mouse that lasts more than 6 months.
Still, they absolutely want to force people to a monthly fee.
That’s my experience with Razer
I’m just glad i got my computer upgraded before all this tariff shit.
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That’s what I did. Bought new processor, graphics card, monitor OLED wide-screen, all last year. I knew this shit was coming. These pieces will last me well past this orange fuck face.
Whew… The F310 is still $19.99.
Had me worried for a second.
Building a submarine?
Mine won’t implode because I’m not using the wireless controller.
If it helps, you can 3D print your own hardware nowadays
Can I 3d print something like the g602 mouse? I can solder components together and do a little programming if need be but designing something like that is way over my head. Not being able to find a replacement for that thing is killing me.
Try the Statial B. You can adjust it to meet almost any shape you need.
Note, it can be printed with an FDM, but it’ll need a 0.2mm nozzle and really good tuning. Some of the parts were a pain to print for me
https://github.com/PyottDesign/Statial-b
My main complaint is that the Statial B only has 2 thumb buttons, and I’d prefer to have at least 4. I’ve considered modifying the design of the relevant plate, but there’s still the issue of not having ports to wire the switches to the raspberry pi it runs on.
I also have a ploopy mouse like the other commenter mentioned. It’s definitely not a replacement for a G602 (that’s also the mouse I used before switching to open source), but it gets the job done. I just need to buck up and finish assembling the Statial B
That is really cool. I think there’s ways to get more switches on one port on Arduino but I don’t remember for sure.
To tell the truth, I over simplified the description of why it’s difficult. Part of the assembly is a couple of custom PCBs, one of which holds ports for cables that go to each button. That custom PCB is technically what runs out of room, though the side plate that holds the thumb buttons is also limited in space
Yeah, that’s all beyond my abilities to figure out. Looking at my 602 it looks like the side buttons have their own board which is connected to the main board via ribbon cable. I thought it might be possible to do something similar with this one but I don’t know enough about electronics/mechanical engineering to figure that on my own. It’s still a really cool project though.
I have no personal experience with it, but you might be interested in this completely open source mouse:
https://ploopy.co/mouse/
https://github.com/ploopyco/mouse
It looks like you can buy a fully assembled mouse, a build it yourself kit, or do it from scratch with the schematics. Doesn’t come with quite as many side buttons though
Interesting. It’s a start at least.
I need a new one of those little dongles, where can I find the STL?