But but but IGN gave it an 8/10 and said it was the best game in the franchise! Did they lie, are they out of touch, or are they working with publishers to try to smooth over the transition into more expensive games?
They specifically mentioned multiple questlines breaking and blocking progression in addition to several smaller bugs yet they still gave the game an 8/10. I get that IGN reviews are the softest of balls to hit, but that’s ridiculous for even them
Bout to finish the main story of bl3, wish it was longer, seems like content was cut so they could sell expansions, idk maybe im just comparing it to borderlands 2 + all expansions, I didnt really do side quests but typically I do these when I need to, playing solo I didn’t ever need to leave and do those before coming back to the main story.
Enough ppl dont complain about how they artificially extend the time by having you wait for ppl talk, thought it was a limitation in older games, especially bad in sanctuary, like let me just play the game, talk while I do stuff, don’t make me stand around pausing the game if I open my menu extending it futher.
As I understand it, BL3 didn’t use the same writers as BL2. The DLC for BL3 did, though, which is why it’s of a very high quality. BL1-2 are some of my favourite games and as someone who doesn’t replay/reread/rewatch I’ve replayed those games a lot, but Pitchford was a huge douche about BL4 and its pricing so I decided hey, I’ll solve that problem by just not buying it.
I tried 3 just to see what all the interest was about, but couldn’t get into it. There were loads of guns and none of them seemed great or much different from each other. Was I supposed to collect them and sell them? I wanted to like it cos I enjoy the art style, maybe I should give it another go sometime.
They’re procedurally generated within a range of possible effects and damage based off the “manufacturer” in-game
You’ll end up finding one you really like and using it for like 5 levels, while selling other loot, until you find one that jives more with your play style and is more powerful than your current loadout
My favorite weapon was a legendary rifle that had a shotgun mode, a lot of the guns have different modesc many shotguns, and its really easy to get legendaries (way too easy, while it was too hard in past games) I had a full inventory of legendaries constantly from mid way to endgame, kinda hated that because I liked ll my options. Liked the flamethrower rifle that when reloaded became a turret that ran around, abused those lol (got that legendary a few times in different forms)
I haven’t played 3, but loved 2. Still haven’t finished it, maybe should.
There’s a bunch of generic weapons (themed by manufacturer and weapon type), but there’s also some unique ones. Bane in particular was a really funny one to discover.
The secret is to use Heroic Games Launcher for EGS games. In addition to being a launcher for EGS, GOG and Amazon… It’s cross-platform, which EGS is not. Makes playing EGS games on Linux a breeze.
I was watching a streamer playing this game on AMD 9800X3D with RTX 5090 GPU on 1440p and was barely able to get 100 fps. All the settings were on medium with DLSS Balanced turned on. This game is definitely not optimized.
Don’t buy gearbox games. Pitchford is a self important head in the sands salesman. Along with Tim Sweeny, they’re a couple of the most used car salesman types in gaming
Don’t forget Todd Howard. He’s the ultimate example of a Tesla salesman who has a self driving car drive itself into a ditch and then he says “it just works.“
I can think of just 1 guy who is even more of a used car salesman… Chris Roberts. Literally has been selling digital spaceships like used cars. Including the actual prices of the digital ships being roughly the same as a used car.
Can’t forgive them for the cash cow they turned Risk of Rain into. Such a perfect game that I sunk hundreds of hours into to get me through the pandemic. They buy the series, release a quarter-baked DLC that simultaneously makes changes to the base game for everyone, spends a year fixing it, then announces another DLC as soon as they fix the problems they created with the 1st one. All while ramping up their merch lineup like the over $100 TTRPG version.
sigh… This generation of games will all suck because of Unreal Engine 5. I’m a patient gamer, I have plenty of unplayed games on my Steam library. I will not upgrade my video card because of this horrendous game engine.
I briefly watched Jackfrags video on it. The graphics aren’t even anything special, the world isn’t overly populated and I can’t imagine there would be any overly complex calculations running in the background and it performs like shit.
One of the reasons being patent with games is worth it. In a year, they may fix the bugs, they may not. But the only thing you lose is a bit of time playing other games. And cheaper too :D
I’m big on the entire Borderlands franchise, played 1+2+3+TPS and even both Telltale story games. I’m still going to wait at least until it drops below $40 at the very earliest. I get the notion that we will start seeing sales on BL4 relatively soon.
I definitely wasn’t playing Borderlands at any point for the story. I like that it has one, but if they wrote some terrible villains, it doesn’t affect how much fun I had with my build synergies in those boss fights.
Well most review sites give it high scores with the negatives being primarily the performance so at least this time there might be a good game in there somewhere underneath all those shader compilation stutters
BL2 was great. Some of its DLC was even better. Assault on Dragon Keep is one of the best looter shooters ever made. The gameplay was a blast. The jokes were funny…And out of left field it broke your fucking heart by secretly being about a young, traumatized girl’s grief.
Yes. The out of left field had more to do with what was expected going in. We all expected silly D&D and fart jokes. We didn’t expect a legitimately touching examination of grief and denial to bring depth to a silly character.
Have you tried Tiny Tina’s Wonderlands? It’s basically an entire spinoff game from Dragon Keep DLC with its own unique systems. Personally I think it’s the most creative game in the genre.
I haven’t, and I really should. Like, REALLY should. I was college roommates with and took part in the wedding of someone high enough at Gearbox that I can’t say their role without doxxing myself, and we’ve stayed really close.
So, BL3 wasn’t great. the pre-sequel was out of house and doesn’t really count. It was made in an entirely other culture. It’s not like there have been a lot of games since BL2.
I’m not dismissing the criticism of BL3, I honestly don’t know what it is beyond my personal experience. I wasn’t a big fan of the antagonists or the weapon changes, but It didn’t ruin the game for me. I really didn’t know that the game was so widely disliked - I never even looked into it. It came out, I played it, lost interest, and moved on with my life.
3 was the best out of all of them from a gameplay perspective. People don’t like the story but I never cared for any of the borderlands stories personally.
I’m not OP but varied gameplay and interesting mechanics is way more important for me unless it’s a very story rich game that’s done well (the last of us or death stranding for example)
Story matters in a lot of games to me. But not in borderlands. I play borderlands for the looting and shooting basically. And 3’s the best at that. Though I’ve heard 4 is even better still in that regard.
It is tiring that new games launch with such poor performance. But, good thing we have game logs to help protect us from this kind of thing. Should be able to just wait it out and pick it up later for much cheaper.
The Tina dlc which has a standalone game is great. Even though it doesn’t make sense as a standalone since it’s a significant and well executed end to the BL2 story.
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But but but IGN gave it an 8/10 and said it was the best game in the franchise! Did they lie, are they out of touch, or are they working with publishers to try to smooth over the transition into more expensive games?
They noted the perforemance issues in their review
Yet it doesn’t seem to negatively effect the score
How do you know that?
They specifically mentioned multiple questlines breaking and blocking progression in addition to several smaller bugs yet they still gave the game an 8/10. I get that IGN reviews are the softest of balls to hit, but that’s ridiculous for even them
Right but how do you know that didn’t impact the score? For all we know they knocked it down a point for that.
The review score is for you, the review lives beneath it, for the people who can read
Bout to finish the main story of bl3, wish it was longer, seems like content was cut so they could sell expansions, idk maybe im just comparing it to borderlands 2 + all expansions, I didnt really do side quests but typically I do these when I need to, playing solo I didn’t ever need to leave and do those before coming back to the main story.
Enough ppl dont complain about how they artificially extend the time by having you wait for ppl talk, thought it was a limitation in older games, especially bad in sanctuary, like let me just play the game, talk while I do stuff, don’t make me stand around pausing the game if I open my menu extending it futher.
As I understand it, BL3 didn’t use the same writers as BL2. The DLC for BL3 did, though, which is why it’s of a very high quality. BL1-2 are some of my favourite games and as someone who doesn’t replay/reread/rewatch I’ve replayed those games a lot, but Pitchford was a huge douche about BL4 and its pricing so I decided hey, I’ll solve that problem by just not buying it.
I tried 3 just to see what all the interest was about, but couldn’t get into it. There were loads of guns and none of them seemed great or much different from each other. Was I supposed to collect them and sell them? I wanted to like it cos I enjoy the art style, maybe I should give it another go sometime.
That is part of the genre, yeah.
They’re procedurally generated within a range of possible effects and damage based off the “manufacturer” in-game
You’ll end up finding one you really like and using it for like 5 levels, while selling other loot, until you find one that jives more with your play style and is more powerful than your current loadout
Ah gotcha, cheers. I guess I’m old fashioned but I kinda just like a shotgun mostly when gaming.
But yeah I’m thinking maybe I should give it another try, I did really like the style.
My favorite weapon was a legendary rifle that had a shotgun mode, a lot of the guns have different modesc many shotguns, and its really easy to get legendaries (way too easy, while it was too hard in past games) I had a full inventory of legendaries constantly from mid way to endgame, kinda hated that because I liked ll my options. Liked the flamethrower rifle that when reloaded became a turret that ran around, abused those lol (got that legendary a few times in different forms)
TBF those do sound cool as fuck!
I haven’t played 3, but loved 2. Still haven’t finished it, maybe should.
There’s a bunch of generic weapons (themed by manufacturer and weapon type), but there’s also some unique ones. Bane in particular was a really funny one to discover.
Also… why now? BL games always get 90% off eventually, lol.
Or come up free on EGS.
Yeah, but then you have to install EGS.
You can use Heroic Launcher instead. And you get an Amazon Games and GoG client as a bonus.
Or you can use heroic games launcher and never have to install egs
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It’s fine. The weekly free games are worth it. I’ve played some weird and cool games I would have never found otherwise thanks to EGS’ free games.
If you say so :)
The secret is to use Heroic Games Launcher for EGS games. In addition to being a launcher for EGS, GOG and Amazon… It’s cross-platform, which EGS is not. Makes playing EGS games on Linux a breeze.
I was watching a streamer playing this game on AMD 9800X3D with RTX 5090 GPU on 1440p and was barely able to get 100 fps. All the settings were on medium with DLSS Balanced turned on. This game is definitely not optimized.
Don’t buy gearbox games. Pitchford is a self important head in the sands salesman. Along with Tim Sweeny, they’re a couple of the most used car salesman types in gaming
Don’t forget Todd Howard. He’s the ultimate example of a Tesla salesman who has a self driving car drive itself into a ditch and then he says “it just works.“
I can think of just 1 guy who is even more of a used car salesman… Chris Roberts. Literally has been selling digital spaceships like used cars. Including the actual prices of the digital ships being roughly the same as a used car.
As a diehard fan of the Wing Commander series, you take that back right now! Right now!
I bought, and still have, every single Wing Commander game released as they launched. Core experience of my early gaming days.
All kidding aside, Star Citizen is a steaming shit pile of a grift that has gone on for far too long.
At this point I wonder if he still believes he’s making the full game? And if not, did he ever?
Can’t forgive them for the cash cow they turned Risk of Rain into. Such a perfect game that I sunk hundreds of hours into to get me through the pandemic. They buy the series, release a quarter-baked DLC that simultaneously makes changes to the base game for everyone, spends a year fixing it, then announces another DLC as soon as they fix the problems they created with the 1st one. All while ramping up their merch lineup like the over $100 TTRPG version.
sigh… This generation of games will all suck because of Unreal Engine 5. I’m a patient gamer, I have plenty of unplayed games on my Steam library. I will not upgrade my video card because of this horrendous game engine.
It literally crashed while Conan was doing a Clueless Gamer promo for it.
Can’t play your new $80 game due to performance and crashing issues? Hey, if you’re a real fan you’ll find a way to make it happen.
I briefly watched Jackfrags video on it. The graphics aren’t even anything special, the world isn’t overly populated and I can’t imagine there would be any overly complex calculations running in the background and it performs like shit.
Fuck these fucks.
One of the reasons being patent with games is worth it. In a year, they may fix the bugs, they may not. But the only thing you lose is a bit of time playing other games. And cheaper too :D
I’m big on the entire Borderlands franchise, played 1+2+3+TPS and even both Telltale story games. I’m still going to wait at least until it drops below $40 at the very earliest. I get the notion that we will start seeing sales on BL4 relatively soon.
I loved BL 1 and 2. Still haven’t played prequel, tina, or 3; might finally buy one of those next big sale.
I liked the Pre-sequel just as much as 2. 3 is…skippable.
That franchise hasn’t been good since BL2
Borderlands 3 was significantly better, in my opinion.
The gameplay was much improved; the writing was…not good.
But I played the hell out of 3 anyway, so…
BL3 had some fantastic DLC though. Loved that.
I definitely wasn’t playing Borderlands at any point for the story. I like that it has one, but if they wrote some terrible villains, it doesn’t affect how much fun I had with my build synergies in those boss fights.
Well most review sites give it high scores with the negatives being primarily the performance so at least this time there might be a good game in there somewhere underneath all those shader compilation stutters
BL2 was great. Some of its DLC was even better. Assault on Dragon Keep is one of the best looter shooters ever made. The gameplay was a blast. The jokes were funny…And out of left field it broke your fucking heart by secretly being about a young, traumatized girl’s grief.
…and then they turned it into spinoff game with Wanda Sykes’ voice constantly grating your brain into shredded cheese
It wasn’t out of left field. They telegraphed it frequently.
Yes. The out of left field had more to do with what was expected going in. We all expected silly D&D and fart jokes. We didn’t expect a legitimately touching examination of grief and denial to bring depth to a silly character.
Have you tried Tiny Tina’s Wonderlands? It’s basically an entire spinoff game from Dragon Keep DLC with its own unique systems. Personally I think it’s the most creative game in the genre.
I haven’t, and I really should. Like, REALLY should. I was college roommates with and took part in the wedding of someone high enough at Gearbox that I can’t say their role without doxxing myself, and we’ve stayed really close.
So, BL3 wasn’t great. the pre-sequel was out of house and doesn’t really count. It was made in an entirely other culture. It’s not like there have been a lot of games since BL2.
I honestly don’t understand the hate.
If you’re going to dismiss the criticism of BL3 or the Presequel then yeah, it makes you don’t get the hate.
I’m not dismissing the criticism of BL3, I honestly don’t know what it is beyond my personal experience. I wasn’t a big fan of the antagonists or the weapon changes, but It didn’t ruin the game for me. I really didn’t know that the game was so widely disliked - I never even looked into it. It came out, I played it, lost interest, and moved on with my life.
No hate, just unmet expectations.
3 was the best out of all of them from a gameplay perspective. People don’t like the story but I never cared for any of the borderlands stories personally.
Let’s be honest, the only story missions we ever cared about were those starring Handsome Jack.
The Tiny Tina DLC was pretty good.
True, TT’s B&B was great. Shame the TT standalone game lacked that charm and any meaningful engame.
Such a great big douchey motivator!
Honest question: if the story doesn’t matter that much to you, what do you value in a game?
Depends on the game. In a looter shooter like Borderlands, it’s the looting and shooting
I’m not OP but varied gameplay and interesting mechanics is way more important for me unless it’s a very story rich game that’s done well (the last of us or death stranding for example)
Story matters in a lot of games to me. But not in borderlands. I play borderlands for the looting and shooting basically. And 3’s the best at that. Though I’ve heard 4 is even better still in that regard.
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wow youre so smart and sophisticated ! you only play big boring grown up games about taxes and working a job! way to go adult!
Bruh. What’s got you triggered so hard?
Do you need a hug?
okay 🤗
🤗
I forgot what we were talking about. Does it matter?
nah, lets go grab a beer or something 😁
🍻
It is tiring that new games launch with such poor performance. But, good thing we have game logs to help protect us from this kind of thing. Should be able to just wait it out and pick it up later for much cheaper.
Play 1 & 2 again or if you want to get introduced into the series those are the ones to play oh and the Tiny Tina spin offs are good.
The Tina dlc which has a standalone game is great. Even though it doesn’t make sense as a standalone since it’s a significant and well executed end to the BL2 story.
Wonderlands is pretty iffy though
EY-YO IT-SA TONY TINA OVER HERE COM’MON! WHERESA MY PASTA, LUIGI?!
Tony Tina, why are you bustin my balls?
YO TONE, getta loada this bozo, waltzin’ on in here like ya own the joint
People bought that overpriced crap with unnacceptable TOS? I guess I need to accept there is no hope after all.
you think people even read it?