Interesting figure that comes out of the article: 87% of US teens prefer iPhones. Also the explanations given aren’t quite surprising, I guess it’s mostly because of iMessage. Teens will feel like outcasts if they get an Android phone while their friends still use iMessage because of the green bubbles.
It’s actually hilarious how we allowed consumerism to take us this far and that we have now peer pressure over smartphones.
“You’re telling me in 2023, you still have a ’Droid? […] You gotta be at least 50 years old.”
Or are just being given slow and aweful low end android phones. IPhones will be faster and better in every way.
It was the same with laptops 10-15 years ago, people were comparing cheap 400USD laptops with 1500USD macbooks and saying thise are better without ever seeing 1000+ USD PC.
It is about money/status and performance too.
I can freely laugh at a colleague with new 1.5k USD macbook with soldered 8GB ram + soldered 512GB SSD while using my three year old thinkpad with 48GB of RAM and 2TB SSD costing the same with upgrades.
There’s probably a lot more to this than people realize. My parents definitely did this crap; give you kid the cheapest garbage that you can find them act surprised when they hate it and ask for the more expensive alternative that’s nearly guaranteed to actually work.
If you’re getting your kid an iPhone then you kinda have to spend for something that’s at least barely competent. Android gives you near-infinite ways to cheap out.
My dad did this with me when I asked for a guitar when I was in HS. I got his co-workers crappy classical guitar that was practically made out of plywood. I think I played it for 10 minutes. Fast forward over 20 years later and I own over 10 different good guitars (after a few years of not playing at all, don’t give him credit for that lol 😃)
I did this; got my husband’s kid a low end android phone on “pay as you go” since I knew he would either lose it or have it smashed within a few months. Was right on both accounts.
This was a major point in the intel mac era, but since they moved to their M-series chips, it’s a lot more of an apples to oranges comparison anymore. Pixels moving to the tensor platform is similar in this regard.
Nah, since 2007 when the iPhone came out everyone had to have one. Then the 2nd model had GPS and apps in 2008 and blew the doors wide open. By 2010 HTC was releasing phones like the incredible and the “droid” moniker was in full swing - with Apple consistently mopping the floor.
I’d say iPhone fervor kind of died down around 2010 actually.
I really struggle with switching stuff to WhatsApp just because it’s Facebook. But yeah, every time I go to another country I end up having to download it for something.
Can you try Signal in those cases? If you tell people “I’d rather not use Facebook stuff if possible, can we try Signal” there’s a good chance they either have it installed too or are willing to throw it on.
We like to think that but if you want to reach people who are on Whatsapp you’re gonna have to install Whatsapp. And the other way around, if people have a group for whatever (plan a group outing, kids’ soccer team, tenants’ association etc.) on Whatsapp and one person is not on Whatsapp, tough luck buddy, they get left out.
Apple framed it as an “iPhone vs Android” issue for their own reasons but the larger issue (social network peer pressure) is very much a thing in Europe too.
It seems we’ve come full circle. I remember early adverts for Android phones showing a line outside an Apple store waiting for the latest iPhone. An older couple ask the youngsters in front of them if they’re excited and they reply “oh no, it’s not for us … it’s for our parents. We use Android”.
I don’t think you’re supposed to have your opinion swayed by what teens think but it is important to know what they think because they reflect future trends and ideals.
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87% of americans is not a surprising number…
87% of teens. I’m surprised it’s not a higher number. Have you seen teens? They’re right stupid
Teenagers, as a group, are very stupid people.
I am sorry :(
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For what? Being a teenager? Nah. I used to be a teenager. I was very stupid.
Brands have been always important to teenagers.
Now you’re getting it
That’s what he said.
US teens are stupid.
Always have been. My generation liked Vanilla Ice and Milli Vanilli.
Or are just being given slow and aweful low end android phones. IPhones will be faster and better in every way.
It was the same with laptops 10-15 years ago, people were comparing cheap 400USD laptops with 1500USD macbooks and saying thise are better without ever seeing 1000+ USD PC.
It is about money/status and performance too.
I can freely laugh at a colleague with new 1.5k USD macbook with soldered 8GB ram + soldered 512GB SSD while using my three year old thinkpad with 48GB of RAM and 2TB SSD costing the same with upgrades.
This is probably it. iPhones all meet Apples standards but low end Android devices can be true garbage.
It’s like having a shitty netbook and swearing off Windows as a result.
There’s probably a lot more to this than people realize. My parents definitely did this crap; give you kid the cheapest garbage that you can find them act surprised when they hate it and ask for the more expensive alternative that’s nearly guaranteed to actually work.
If you’re getting your kid an iPhone then you kinda have to spend for something that’s at least barely competent. Android gives you near-infinite ways to cheap out.
My dad did this with me when I asked for a guitar when I was in HS. I got his co-workers crappy classical guitar that was practically made out of plywood. I think I played it for 10 minutes. Fast forward over 20 years later and I own over 10 different good guitars (after a few years of not playing at all, don’t give him credit for that lol 😃)
I did this; got my husband’s kid a low end android phone on “pay as you go” since I knew he would either lose it or have it smashed within a few months. Was right on both accounts.
And yes that phone was as slow as molasses.
This was a major point in the intel mac era, but since they moved to their M-series chips, it’s a lot more of an apples to oranges comparison anymore. Pixels moving to the tensor platform is similar in this regard.
I don’t think that’s applicable to Germany for example. We have plenty Android-Phones here and ppl aren’t using iMesage really.
Yeah I think this survey was done in US only. In Europe everyone uses what they prefer and no one has problem with your OS choice
I think that is mostly a US thing, as I see way more Androids in Europe than iPhones. But I could be wrong
Judging by the amount of times I hear the same ringtone as mine, I think where I live in the UK is about 70-80% Samsung Android phones.
And it’s so outdated too. The iPhone was a “cool” status symbol in like 2010 and 2014. Not so much when everyone has them.
I thought that time period was more a Blackberry thing, and to a lesser extent the Sony Xperia and Galaxy series was taking off
Nah, since 2007 when the iPhone came out everyone had to have one. Then the 2nd model had GPS and apps in 2008 and blew the doors wide open. By 2010 HTC was releasing phones like the incredible and the “droid” moniker was in full swing - with Apple consistently mopping the floor.
I’d say iPhone fervor kind of died down around 2010 actually.
100%, I’ve lived both in the US and Europe, and Androids are definitely more prevalent in Europe than in the US.
Yeah, it’s definitely a Yank thing.
Yep. Primary chat protocol is still SMS. The general population hasn’t latched on to WhatsApp or others like many countries have.
I really struggle with switching stuff to WhatsApp just because it’s Facebook. But yeah, every time I go to another country I end up having to download it for something.
fuck whatsapp
Get signal instead
say that to my entire country
Can you try Signal in those cases? If you tell people “I’d rather not use Facebook stuff if possible, can we try Signal” there’s a good chance they either have it installed too or are willing to throw it on.
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I’d take SMS over Facebook any day.
We like to think that but if you want to reach people who are on Whatsapp you’re gonna have to install Whatsapp. And the other way around, if people have a group for whatever (plan a group outing, kids’ soccer team, tenants’ association etc.) on Whatsapp and one person is not on Whatsapp, tough luck buddy, they get left out.
Apple framed it as an “iPhone vs Android” issue for their own reasons but the larger issue (social network peer pressure) is very much a thing in Europe too.
Definitely not in Germany, I think. People here are obsessed with apple. But im not native German, so maybe im wrong.
Idk, I see plenty of both, and most people I know are capable of having objective discussions about it.
Objective discussions about why apple is better?
sigh
I live in Brazil and don’t know many people with iPhones, most have Android phones
Get a job, earn money, then you can have your Iphone
That’s when you give them a flip phone then see how they feel about the android when they earn it back.
Because flaunting your smug and condescending sense of superiority using outdated technology will really get your point across to disaffected teens.
How about we let that mindset die with the boomer generation?
This enrages me more than it should
That’s a gringo problem.
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It seems we’ve come full circle. I remember early adverts for Android phones showing a line outside an Apple store waiting for the latest iPhone. An older couple ask the youngsters in front of them if they’re excited and they reply “oh no, it’s not for us … it’s for our parents. We use Android”.
Why would I care what teens think? Android gives me more control over my phone.
You don’t personally have to, but some of us have kids who will have to deal with this nonsense, and the social pressure on teens is hard enough.
https://media.ccc.de/v/camp2023-57129-the_nix_phone_and_the_end_of_android
Bold of you to assume that just because a product is better, it will overtake Android.
I don’t think you’re supposed to have your opinion swayed by what teens think but it is important to know what they think because they reflect future trends and ideals.
They’ll vote against whatever the kids want just to pwn them, even if it ends up hurting themselves in the long run.
Who’s they in this context?
Not the kids.
Because their opinion will decide what we will be using in decade or two.
Touch luck world, i will be too out of touch to care. Full boomerism here i come!
Conspicuous consumption in a nutshell.
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Teenagers are well known to do everything differently in a way of rebellion to the majority. So, the majority has Android phone. Right!
No one give a shit about iMessage. I’ve watched my kids exclusively communicate with their friends via Snapchat and discord.