Sony’s controversial PlayStation Network requirement for its PC games is once again in the spotlight after the company delisted the original Horizon Zero Dawn on Steam and the Epic Games Store and added the PSN requirement to the upcoming single-player remaster.
There have been a few instances where licensed content has been retroactively removed from libraries, though. Steam doesn’t let you download older versions of a game unless the devs explicitly allow it.
I knew this was the whole point of the “remaster”.
The original is still available on GoG.
I also REALLY hate how confusing the Steam store is. If you look up the original game, it does not say its delisted, it just has the Remastered bundle inside the listing, which is a completely different product.
The advantage and point of the DRM-Free nature of GOG is that once you download a game, it stays on your computer even if the game is removed and made unavailable to download. And you are able to download an “offline installer” file which can be backed up and used to install the game at any point in time even without an internet connection. So buying it on GOG knowing it may be removed is still hugely advantageous.
To play devils advocate, semi-similar is true on Steam for the most part. Even though the original was pulled by Sony, you can still download and play it if you previously purchased it.
I do have an expansive offline library though, I admit. Though I’d also say that a company removing access to something you paid for is the most moral reason there is to pirate that something.
Yeah for sure. You can still download it from Steam at the moment if you already have a license for it, and probably for quite some years, so thank God for that. But if it ever stops being available for download for some reason from Steam, the game won’t be able to be downloaded at all anymore. On GOG, as long as you kept a backup of your personal installer file, the game will always be installable forever as long as you don’t lose your backups and there isn’t some crazy post-apocalyptic event that takes away our technology.
Of all the games that could benefit from a remastering in 2024, Horizon Zero Dawn would be among the last of them. That game still looks utterly gorgeous, ffs.
it was more about showcasing my mental illness and how I can’t help punishing myself by playing games like old kingdom or old bioshock, or both borderlands. I also tried to do ori but now I have work burnout and gaming burnout. I wouldn’t actually feel inclined to double zero dawn as the game really is enough of a slog just to complete the main story and I really really don’t want to suffer any more.
Along with everything else, I find it so annoying that these games that totally didn’t need a remaster get one, and so many great older games just begging for a remaster that woud rake in cash dont get one.
It has more than one… But it is incredibly lacking still.
But it got Astrobot, Destruction All-stars are both new IPs. There is also Spider-Man 2 and Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart for first party. And you can throw in Stella Blade and FF7 Rebirth for now as well.
I believe everything else is remakes or not exclusive to the PS5.
Edit - ohhh scratch Ratchet and Clank off as well, that’s on PC. I thought it was the PS4 one that came to PC, but it is Rift Apart.
It’s because those remakes take time to do a proper remake. I get the feeling Sony needed something fast for this one and Guerilla was able to turn it around without much effort on their part, at least compared to making a new game or remaking something older.
They’re having one HZD listing, for both copies
If you buy it in 6 months you can still play the original release with no PSN and no remake changes, they just package the remake with it now on the store.
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I hope they just mean for sale…
Historically when games are delisted they’ll still be in your library.
No, it just means people can’t buy it anymore
Delisting has never meant it is removed from your library for a paid game, in my memory. Just means you can’t buy it anymore
There have been a few instances where licensed content has been retroactively removed from libraries, though. Steam doesn’t let you download older versions of a game unless the devs explicitly allow it.
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Guess what I won’t be buying.
EAUbisoftSonySad, I like them before
Like my exes
You forgot Nintendo.
And Microsoft for that matter.
And Epic Games
And Blizzard
And SquirrelSoft
Nothing of value was lost.
It’s just ubisoft the game but with robo dinos.
All sony games are the same. Ghost of tduchima bored me in less than 10h.
this game is such fucking trash. who wants to play anyways
Fucking called it LOL
I knew this was the whole point of the “remaster”.
The original is still available on GoG.
I also REALLY hate how confusing the Steam store is. If you look up the original game, it does not say its delisted, it just has the Remastered bundle inside the listing, which is a completely different product.
I checked GOG as soon as I saw this post. Hopefully they don’t take that down, too.
If Sony pulls it, they pull it. GOG wouldn’t have any options, it’s not theirs to sell, they are just a storefront.
The advantage and point of the DRM-Free nature of GOG is that once you download a game, it stays on your computer even if the game is removed and made unavailable to download. And you are able to download an “offline installer” file which can be backed up and used to install the game at any point in time even without an internet connection. So buying it on GOG knowing it may be removed is still hugely advantageous.
To play devils advocate, semi-similar is true on Steam for the most part. Even though the original was pulled by Sony, you can still download and play it if you previously purchased it.
I do have an expansive offline library though, I admit. Though I’d also say that a company removing access to something you paid for is the most moral reason there is to pirate that something.
Yeah for sure. You can still download it from Steam at the moment if you already have a license for it, and probably for quite some years, so thank God for that. But if it ever stops being available for download for some reason from Steam, the game won’t be able to be downloaded at all anymore. On GOG, as long as you kept a backup of your personal installer file, the game will always be installable forever as long as you don’t lose your backups and there isn’t some crazy post-apocalyptic event that takes away our technology.
Lol remastering a 2017 game, mega cash grab.
Of all the games that could benefit from a remastering in 2024, Horizon Zero Dawn would be among the last of them. That game still looks utterly gorgeous, ffs.
This is not true in the literal sense.
You cannot redeem HZD keys, and buy it as part of a bundle with both versions. They stopped selling it standalone.
So you can get the upgrade for $10 if you already have it, or wait for a sale on the bundle.
But in either case you can still play the original release without the PSN requirement even if bought after the remaster release.
For now
Well they have structured the Remaster as a DLC upgrade that requires the base game license.
So they would have to delist their new listing and create an entirely new release.
Honestly 99% chance they did it this way to preserve the review history of the original game on the Remaster.
all they had to do was not force accounts. then they could join this club:
Weird flex, but okay.
Do you own only 2 skyrims? That’s rookie numbers!
You just had to brag about your achievements.
it was more about showcasing my mental illness and how I can’t help punishing myself by playing games like old kingdom or old bioshock, or both borderlands. I also tried to do ori but now I have work burnout and gaming burnout. I wouldn’t actually feel inclined to double zero dawn as the game really is enough of a slog just to complete the main story and I really really don’t want to suffer any more.
Yeah, <hobby> burnout suck too.
Do you smell the sweet scent of money made by amassing more data from you and selling it.
Hmmmmmmmmmm hmm!
Along with everything else, I find it so annoying that these games that totally didn’t need a remaster get one, and so many great older games just begging for a remaster that woud rake in cash dont get one.
Because those need work. These are easy to slightly polish up and push as new game.
Ps5 has literally only one new exclusive after all these years?
It has more than one… But it is incredibly lacking still.
But it got Astrobot, Destruction All-stars are both new IPs. There is also Spider-Man 2 and
Ratchet and Clank Rift Apartfor first party. And you can throw in Stella Blade and FF7 Rebirth for now as well.I believe everything else is remakes or not exclusive to the PS5.
Edit - ohhh scratch Ratchet and Clank off as well, that’s on PC. I thought it was the PS4 one that came to PC, but it is Rift Apart.
Spiderman was ps4 too no?
Wikipedia is only listing PS5. Spiderman and Miles Morales were PS4, but Spiderman 2 is only on the PS5
They did it so they can sell more data from requiring a PSN account, also just more money from people buying it, I guess.
It’s because those remakes take time to do a proper remake. I get the feeling Sony needed something fast for this one and Guerilla was able to turn it around without much effort on their part, at least compared to making a new game or remaking something older.
Concord remaster when?
give it another 7 to 8 years
Concord merch?
Shit game anyway get shafted sony
Good thing I have the GOG offline installer already downloaded.
And you can actually still buy it there. Though for the now increased price.
If you already bought you can still download it can’t you? I have a bunch of other delisted games that still work fine
I bloody hope so, I added it to the list of games I’ve purchased on steam but never played last week
Well, I can play the delisted original aoe2 and that’s been delisted for a long time, so I’m sure you’ll be fine.
Delisting it just means it isn’t being sold to new customers.
But it is, as a bundle.
They’re having one HZD listing, for both copies If you buy it in 6 months you can still play the original release with no PSN and no remake changes, they just package the remake with it now on the store.
I have it too, and I was patiently waiting for Forbidden West to show up on GOG too, guess it’s not gonna happen now, yo ho ho?
Even if I was a bazillionaire, I’d still be pirating Sony games out of principle