The PS5 now has an advert system built into the dashboard user interface you can’t disable without disconnecting from the internet.
Wow, this is awful. Some people reported that these ads are also very petty and not necessarily related to the game, like apparently Elden Ring shows an ad for a licensed mousepad when you hover over the game now…
Edit: Playstation Product Manager says this is actually a new bug. I really doubt it but they do seem to be “fixing it”.
Crazy stuff… Ads everywhere. Makes my choice to not buy any console this generation seem a lot better. It saved me money and I don’t get ads forced on me. I call that a win win.
I would argue that it’s a handheld PC since it’s not locked down to heck and back. It would also be the one thing I would buy but I have no use case for it so I don’t.
Yeah, same. If I were going to get a handheld console, it’s pretty much exactly what I’d want, but…I really don’t need another portable computing device.
At this point, the distinction between console and PC comes down to the corporate side. The PS4 and PS5 operating systems are based on a BSD (probably FreeBSD but not sure), and are capable of running a desktop OS (as long as hackers find a way to bypass Sony’s locked-down firmware). XBox One and Series use a Windows-based OS, also locked down by Microsoft to only run the applications they want.
Everything about the Steam Deck is designed with gaming in mind, but in terms of capabilities, it’s no different from a PC. You could hook it up to a USB-C dock and use it for work. I’d sooner call it a handheld PC than a console.
I came from windows to fedora kde, no regrets so far!! Though for gaming maybe nobara is better as it comes with some stuff preinstalled/configured for gaming. I haven’t really gamed on my laptop yet.
Hell yeah. I went with Kubuntu because I figured it would be easy for a beginner to troubleshoot eventual issues, given the amount of asked-and-answered Ubuntu queries online.
Real talk: whichever one makes you happy. Do a little research with some search terms such as “play {game} on Linux” and see what other users are running. Then, assemble a few live disks and test-pilot a few distros.
It’s pretty fun getting to switch out your OS so freely and once you find an interface that feels good, you just plop your ass into that seat. If you keep decent records of your configs and such, you might find yourself starting over again multiple times while you “try to get it right.” That’s not failure, that’s just advancing your skills and making yourself happy.
Linux can be as simple or as advanced as you want it to be.
Anything including Ubuntu will be perfectly fine. Canonical’s shenanigans that us Free Software people like to bitch about are entirely irrelevant to new Linux users.
It was nice to have someone take this stand and I fully support this. People switching over to Linux already have their own stuff to deal with and need time to accustom to their new environment, and forcing them to embibe ‘FOSS’ philosophy and other strong opinions as held by others in Linux communities is only going to turn them off.
Look, if the choice is “use Ubuntu because it’s easy and officially supported by Steam” or "give up and stuck with Windows (or even worse, a console) would you really suggest the latter?
Bazzite use the home theatre version for a console like experience. Or go with the desktop versions Gnome and KDE both work really well however the emudeck devs have programmed it to work with KDE if you wanted to use that go with KDE.
Sweet, just in time for the pro. Fingers crossed the next revision doesn’t play games at all, just $1000 to pipe Morbius trailers to my TV. It’s all I ever wanted.
I don’t know if you were part of the memers who got Morbius re-released but if so hats off because back then my in-laws were so excited to show me this movie they discovered on Netflix.
Isn’t it rad that Sony designed the ps5 to have easily replaceable side panels and then for some reason only releases the really cool panels as part of a full console?
There will probably be loads of third-party panels just because of that lol, just need some spray paint for the the glossy middle part or something for the finishing touch
They are doing this because a rotten corpse doesn’t force them to compete, they can do whatever they want. If MS didn’t shit the bed with the Series X/S, Sony would be trying harder to please customers, or at least not actively screwing them (see also: 800 EUR PS5 Pro without disc drive or vertical stand).
I wonder if anybody remembers when it leaked Microsoft had a concept of a plan about restrictions on Xbox discs (used/shared), everyone gasped, Sony mocked them in a video about “sharing discs” on PS4 and became a turning point in the console wars…
Even a decade later: Remove discs at your peril! Half the reason I’ve even bought consoles is for Blu-ray movies (still unbeatable AV quality). Sony won both the console and disc drive wars FFS! Still not enough. “Line must go up more!”
I hope MS is at least mocking them back right now, for giggles. Before announcing a very similar thing next year…
Yeah. It’s crazy to think that USB can now handle 240W. And yes, the naming conventions are terribad but, at least the standards are actually open, unlike VESA’s.
I didn’t know this was something I agreed to when I bought my console.
That’s 'cause it wasn’t! Sony is “exceeding authorized access” – a felony under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act – but won’t be prosecuted for $ome rea$on.
“By loading this comment, you agree to give @[email protected] one million US dollars, payable in full within one week.”
See? Anybody can make up unconscionable bullshit. The extent to which Sony’s terms are enforced is only a measure of how many corrupt judges need to be gotten rid of.
Can’t wait for major story spoilers to show up full-screen on the background of the homescreen because clickbaiters on YouTube are fucking assholes.
Also really don’t need product placement on the home, I am on my PS5 to play games, not to fucking buy stuff. It’s a console, not a goddamn webshop.
This really needs an option to get disabled.
Edit: Reading again it just seems to get worse. Looking at the alternative game ads, offers and promotions when selecting a game seems borderline against consumer laws, at least in EU. Especially kids could be easily targeted and triggered by this. Also most of these examples make it look like you’re starting up an entirely different game, it’s just such a awful update all together. No self-respecting interface designer would come up with this, it’s 100% corporate predatory marketing cunts that came up with this kind of stuff.
Ugh I love Steam but when I click on a new game, sometimes it’s like WATCH THIS STREAMER STREAM and it’s in the middle of the game like I WANT GO INTO IT BLIND GIVE ME AN OPTION TO DISABLE THIS
Sure thing, if I were in front of my pc I’d have given you more precise instructions but yeah I was elated when I found that setting as I don’t enjoy livestreams even if it’s not a spoiler.
Console makers see them as one and the same. This being Lemmy I have to advise that the only solution is to own your own machine, so best build your own hardware, install Linux, and compile all the games you want to play yourself.
I have a PC, with Windows though, I can’t be bothered with the limited Linux support and hardware woes that come with it.
I only played a few exclusives on the PS5 before, most recently Astro Bot, but since everything else is basically coming to PC I recently upgraded it anyway. It’s becoming less and less appealing to even bother with consoles anymore. Even Nintendo seems to barely bother to dare anything innovating.
My Linux gaming machine is a Steam Deck, it’s been a pretty positive experience and you only really need to tinker if you’re straying off the golden path.
I imagine we’ll see some new Nintendo innovation with the Switch 2, they are at least good for throwing in a load of wacky ideas with new consoles.
To be fair the Steam Deck is similar to consoles, it is only one piece of hardware that people can’t alter (or aren’t meant to) that natively runs on a Linux system and is entirely designed to work as such. I think the Steam Deck is an interesting concept, but I don’t believe it can be compared to custom built computers, as well as the idea of supported games on any choice of Linux distribution. Support is significantly better than it used to be, but it’s still such a long way off.
While it defaults to a console-like experience it is meant to be altered, they give you a full desktop environment as standard and even provide instructions to install Windows if you really want.
I heard from another lemmy user that his new Xbox required him to click an ad to finish booting up. So with a grain of salt MS’ consoles are even worse. If this continues and i don’t see why it won’t, PC gaming gonna be the only viable one soon. Thank God steamdeck and valve Linux collab are now a thing
God, that’s awful. Is it connected to the Internet or are they internal ads? I suppose you’ve already looked into a piratefix firmware update or something? I have a big roku tv that i keep away from my wifi lest ads sneak into my experience too
I’d kill Internet to it if my wife didn’t leave on random free streaming shit like Pluto to play for the dogs when we leave. The steps it takes for me to get to streamio are nuts. Boot on TV -> close ad and navigation to Fire stick -> listen to auto play ad while piece of shit fire stick loads UI -> finally get to watch what I want.
Man it is never enough with these greedy fucking assholes. I don’t even own one and I’m mad about this… It’s with everything lately… Soon we’ll have ads in our fucking dreams like Futurama…
I can’t even smoke anymore… Stupid anxiety… THC triggers panic attacks and I’ve finally gotten to the point where even if my bowl is 90% CBD it still gets me…
Not to get all serious n shit but as a fellow sufferer i hope you’re getting your anxiety treated. I didnt listen to my friends when they told me it progressively gets worse and kept gutting it out until i was non-functioning and had to get a pro to get me back on my feet.
None of my biz just hope you’re taking care of yourself
I have to try again I suppose. I kinda gave up after every med I tried turned me into a zombie and made work really difficult because all I wanted to do was sleep. CBD really helps stop a panic attack, but the majority of my father’s side of the family has anxiety issues so I think my brain is just broken lol
Society/economy of 2024 isn’t doing me any favors either lol
Never know, you could have undiagnosed adhd which when untreated for a lifetime manifests as anxiety and depression. Like me. Or it could be something different.
It might take you a bit to find it but that’s normal. Those friends of mine warned me it often takes time to find the right mix so you’re not unusual… Just prepare in advance to keep sloggin’ until something hits. It will, but it will take more time than you’d like. I wish i had a better sales pitch.
Finally don’t consider your genes or brain broken, that’s just our brain doin’ the same ol’ self-hate as usual but with extra stolen labcoat to slip our defenses
you could have undiagnosed adhd which when untreated for a lifetime manifests as anxiety and depression.
I see all the adhd memes and comments that usually makes me feel like “hmm maybe I do have this” but I also see a bunch of people saying “we all think that even if we don’t have it” lol thanks again for the concern!
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Ads have ruined the internet. Truly.
Ads have ruined everything.
Crazy stuff… Ads everywhere. Makes my choice to not buy any console this generation seem a lot better. It saved me money and I don’t get ads forced on me. I call that a win win.
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I would argue that it’s a handheld PC since it’s not locked down to heck and back. It would also be the one thing I would buy but I have no use case for it so I don’t.
Yeah, same. If I were going to get a handheld console, it’s pretty much exactly what I’d want, but…I really don’t need another portable computing device.
At this point, the distinction between console and PC comes down to the corporate side. The PS4 and PS5 operating systems are based on a BSD (probably FreeBSD but not sure), and are capable of running a desktop OS (as long as hackers find a way to bypass Sony’s locked-down firmware). XBox One and Series use a Windows-based OS, also locked down by Microsoft to only run the applications they want.
Everything about the Steam Deck is designed with gaming in mind, but in terms of capabilities, it’s no different from a PC. You could hook it up to a USB-C dock and use it for work. I’d sooner call it a handheld PC than a console.
I’ve used mine more as a PC than console. Love the OS, it’s basically Windows without any of MS’s bullshit.
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They don’t. It’s the same category as jailbreaking an iPhone: possible, legal, might brick your console, Sony hates it.
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I still enjoy my PS5 for a few exclusives I play on it. But damn I’m getting very much triggered to just go back to exclusively PC gaming.
Build a PC
Install Linux
Fuck corporate bullshit.
What distro tho?
If you’re coming from Windows, something that runs KDE Plasma will feel very familiar.
I came from windows to fedora kde, no regrets so far!! Though for gaming maybe nobara is better as it comes with some stuff preinstalled/configured for gaming. I haven’t really gamed on my laptop yet.
Hell yeah. I went with Kubuntu because I figured it would be easy for a beginner to troubleshoot eventual issues, given the amount of asked-and-answered Ubuntu queries online.
Real talk: whichever one makes you happy. Do a little research with some search terms such as “play {game} on Linux” and see what other users are running. Then, assemble a few live disks and test-pilot a few distros.
It’s pretty fun getting to switch out your OS so freely and once you find an interface that feels good, you just plop your ass into that seat. If you keep decent records of your configs and such, you might find yourself starting over again multiple times while you “try to get it right.” That’s not failure, that’s just advancing your skills and making yourself happy.
Linux can be as simple or as advanced as you want it to be.
Anything but Ubuntu will be perfectly fine. There really isn’t that much difference between the major distributions.
Package manager choice is pretty important, and for that I always recommend debian-based for a pc for a new Linux user. APT is just so good.
Anything including Ubuntu will be perfectly fine. Canonical’s shenanigans that us Free Software people like to bitch about are entirely irrelevant to new Linux users.
It was nice to have someone take this stand and I fully support this. People switching over to Linux already have their own stuff to deal with and need time to accustom to their new environment, and forcing them to embibe ‘FOSS’ philosophy and other strong opinions as held by others in Linux communities is only going to turn them off.
No snaps are fucking tragic and should be avoided at all costs.
Look, if the choice is “use Ubuntu because it’s easy and officially supported by Steam” or "give up and stuck with Windows (or even worse, a console) would you really suggest the latter?
That’s just a false dichotomy fallacy.
Very happy with Linux Mint
Bazzite use the home theatre version for a console like experience. Or go with the desktop versions Gnome and KDE both work really well however the emudeck devs have programmed it to work with KDE if you wanted to use that go with KDE.
I just switched to Bazzite on my Legion Go and LOVE the freedom from Microsoft.
Anything popular enough that you can easily google anything you need to troubleshoot. Beyond that, doesn’t really matter which one.
Pop!OS for no video card hassle
But then I’d be a Linux cringelord 😬
So a step up from crayon-eater?
Not by much 🤣
My pay checks beg to differ.
So are you just going to run around this community posting this same comment whenever something happens?
As both a Linux professional and freedom loving enthusiast that hates corporate bullshit, you bet your black ass I am. The block button is also free.
People like you are the reason I’m running Linux Mint on all of my PCs now, and I couldn’t be happier. Keep fighting the good fight!
The arrogance of tech giants has never been higher.
Sweet, just in time for the pro. Fingers crossed the next revision doesn’t play games at all, just $1000 to pipe Morbius trailers to my TV. It’s all I ever wanted.
I don’t know if you were part of the memers who got Morbius re-released but if so hats off because back then my in-laws were so excited to show me this movie they discovered on Netflix.
Just so well done
Sony will just flash their 30th anniversary skin again and people will forget and drool all over again.
Isn’t it rad that Sony designed the ps5 to have easily replaceable side panels and then for some reason only releases the really cool panels as part of a full console?
There will probably be loads of third-party panels just because of that lol, just need some spray paint for the the glossy middle part or something for the finishing touch
Sony looking at the rotting corpse of Xbox and taking notes. But only the wrong ones.
They are doing this because a rotten corpse doesn’t force them to compete, they can do whatever they want. If MS didn’t shit the bed with the Series X/S, Sony would be trying harder to please customers, or at least not actively screwing them (see also: 800 EUR PS5 Pro without disc drive or vertical stand).
At least Microsoft hasn’t announced a marginally improved $700 pro console that doesn’t even come with the disk drive.
Yet.
I wonder if anybody remembers when it leaked Microsoft had a concept of a plan about restrictions on Xbox discs (used/shared), everyone gasped, Sony mocked them in a video about “sharing discs” on PS4 and became a turning point in the console wars…
Even a decade later: Remove discs at your peril! Half the reason I’ve even bought consoles is for Blu-ray movies (still unbeatable AV quality). Sony won both the console and disc drive wars FFS! Still not enough. “Line must go up more!”
I hope MS is at least mocking them back right now, for giggles. Before announcing a very similar thing next year…
Generally, I find that the discs often little more than licenses and require the actual have to be downloaded.
Yeah, but how long until it doesn’t come with a power brick, and you have to supply your own?
I mean, if it has USB PD, that could be a not so unreasonable thing. That is, supposing USB PD supplies as outlets become common.
I was interested to know if that could work, supply wise.
According to these articles, the series x and the 5 pro aim to draw around 200W in-game.
USB-PD 3.1 (honestly, fuck the USB naming standard, seriously.) can allow for 240W draw.
So, kinda yeah?
Yeah. It’s crazy to think that USB can now handle 240W. And yes, the naming conventions are terribad but, at least the standards are actually open, unlike VESA’s.
Amen!
Please drink verification can to unpause.
Guess it’s time to sell the PS5 that I don’t play anymore anyway.
I didn’t know this was something I agreed to when I bought my console.
Now to figure out if I can block this.
That’s 'cause it wasn’t! Sony is “exceeding authorized access” – a felony under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act – but won’t be prosecuted for $ome rea$on.
i guarantee you in the fine print they say they have the right to change anything they want any time.
“By loading this comment, you agree to give @[email protected] one million US dollars, payable in full within one week.”
See? Anybody can make up unconscionable bullshit. The extent to which Sony’s terms are enforced is only a measure of how many corrupt judges need to be gotten rid of.
Now, pay up!
What an absolutely terrible fucking idea.
Can’t wait for major story spoilers to show up full-screen on the background of the homescreen because clickbaiters on YouTube are fucking assholes.
Also really don’t need product placement on the home, I am on my PS5 to play games, not to fucking buy stuff. It’s a console, not a goddamn webshop.
This really needs an option to get disabled.
Edit: Reading again it just seems to get worse. Looking at the alternative game ads, offers and promotions when selecting a game seems borderline against consumer laws, at least in EU. Especially kids could be easily targeted and triggered by this. Also most of these examples make it look like you’re starting up an entirely different game, it’s just such a awful update all together. No self-respecting interface designer would come up with this, it’s 100% corporate predatory marketing cunts that came up with this kind of stuff.
Ugh I love Steam but when I click on a new game, sometimes it’s like WATCH THIS STREAMER STREAM and it’s in the middle of the game like I WANT GO INTO IT BLIND GIVE ME AN OPTION TO DISABLE THIS
If you are taking about the storefront you can disable that completely in your options.
I couldn’t find one when it first came out, and haven’t looked since. Thank you so much!
Sure thing, if I were in front of my pc I’d have given you more precise instructions but yeah I was elated when I found that setting as I don’t enjoy livestreams even if it’s not a spoiler.
I either GoG or pirate these days. You want my money? Then respectfully sell me the product.
Console makers see them as one and the same. This being Lemmy I have to advise that the only solution is to own your own machine, so best build your own hardware, install Linux, and compile all the games you want to play yourself.
I have a PC, with Windows though, I can’t be bothered with the limited Linux support and hardware woes that come with it.
I only played a few exclusives on the PS5 before, most recently Astro Bot, but since everything else is basically coming to PC I recently upgraded it anyway. It’s becoming less and less appealing to even bother with consoles anymore. Even Nintendo seems to barely bother to dare anything innovating.
My Linux gaming machine is a Steam Deck, it’s been a pretty positive experience and you only really need to tinker if you’re straying off the golden path.
I imagine we’ll see some new Nintendo innovation with the Switch 2, they are at least good for throwing in a load of wacky ideas with new consoles.
To be fair the Steam Deck is similar to consoles, it is only one piece of hardware that people can’t alter (or aren’t meant to) that natively runs on a Linux system and is entirely designed to work as such. I think the Steam Deck is an interesting concept, but I don’t believe it can be compared to custom built computers, as well as the idea of supported games on any choice of Linux distribution. Support is significantly better than it used to be, but it’s still such a long way off.
While it defaults to a console-like experience it is meant to be altered, they give you a full desktop environment as standard and even provide instructions to install Windows if you really want.
I heard from another lemmy user that his new Xbox required him to click an ad to finish booting up. So with a grain of salt MS’ consoles are even worse. If this continues and i don’t see why it won’t, PC gaming gonna be the only viable one soon. Thank God steamdeck and valve Linux collab are now a thing
Holy shit, this is full blown verification can shit.
They saw the cans as a challenge and are inching closer and closer to see where the cutoff for bullshit is.
My piece of shit, $1800 Vizio TV does that. I can’t even default it to a specific input without clicking through an ad.
God, that’s awful. Is it connected to the Internet or are they internal ads? I suppose you’ve already looked into a piratefix firmware update or something? I have a big roku tv that i keep away from my wifi lest ads sneak into my experience too
I’d kill Internet to it if my wife didn’t leave on random free streaming shit like Pluto to play for the dogs when we leave. The steps it takes for me to get to streamio are nuts. Boot on TV -> close ad and navigation to Fire stick -> listen to auto play ad while piece of shit fire stick loads UI -> finally get to watch what I want.
That’s dystopian nightmare shit. Never buying a smart tv. Fuck having the nicest thing if that’s what it takes to deal with
Sounds like a job for a rasberry pi with pihole installed: https://pi-hole.net/
I’ve really wanted to start tinkering with rasberry pi, so maybe that’ll be a fun first project!
Artist: designs really cool visual for gamers to see before launching
Sony: “Oooo, free ad real-estate!”
I’m sure that’ll help PS5 Pro sales.
It always seems like 1 step forward, 2 steps back with console gaming
Man it is never enough with these greedy fucking assholes. I don’t even own one and I’m mad about this… It’s with everything lately… Soon we’ll have ads in our fucking dreams like Futurama…
“But not in our dreams!”
Ugh the constan dream ad reruns
trying to get back in a nightmare to avoid seeing puppymonkeybaby again
Cannabis will be sold as a way to escape the constant dreamvertising.
I had to look up what puppymonkeybaby is, thinking “am I too young for his”
Tommy horror, I am now too old for this.
I can’t even smoke anymore… Stupid anxiety… THC triggers panic attacks and I’ve finally gotten to the point where even if my bowl is 90% CBD it still gets me…
Not to get all serious n shit but as a fellow sufferer i hope you’re getting your anxiety treated. I didnt listen to my friends when they told me it progressively gets worse and kept gutting it out until i was non-functioning and had to get a pro to get me back on my feet.
None of my biz just hope you’re taking care of yourself
I appreciate the concern!
I have to try again I suppose. I kinda gave up after every med I tried turned me into a zombie and made work really difficult because all I wanted to do was sleep. CBD really helps stop a panic attack, but the majority of my father’s side of the family has anxiety issues so I think my brain is just broken lol
Society/economy of 2024 isn’t doing me any favors either lol
Never know, you could have undiagnosed adhd which when untreated for a lifetime manifests as anxiety and depression. Like me. Or it could be something different.
It might take you a bit to find it but that’s normal. Those friends of mine warned me it often takes time to find the right mix so you’re not unusual… Just prepare in advance to keep sloggin’ until something hits. It will, but it will take more time than you’d like. I wish i had a better sales pitch.
Finally don’t consider your genes or brain broken, that’s just our brain doin’ the same ol’ self-hate as usual but with extra stolen labcoat to slip our defenses
I see all the adhd memes and comments that usually makes me feel like “hmm maybe I do have this” but I also see a bunch of people saying “we all think that even if we don’t have it” lol thanks again for the concern!
Noticed this last night. Shadow of the Tomb Raider, a game old AF has advertisement for Merch.
Jedi Survivor adre rises the EA gaming pass or whatever.
This is super shitty!