The developers of hit PS5 exclusive Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 say Miles Morales is the "main" Spider-Man from now on, which has caused some fans to speculate about what Insomniac may do with the inevitable Spider-Man 3.
The developers of hit PS5 exclusive Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 say Miles Morales is the “main” Spider-Man from now on, which has caused some fans to speculate about what Insomniac may do with the inevitable Spider-Man 3.
I already seen someone meltdown over this in discord and honestly why care so much? Its their spiderman story. I’m just waiting for a squad spiderverse game where you get to customize your spiderperson.
Of course they are. Peter Parker is a straight white male, and that is not an acceptable protagonist in 2023. I could see the writing on the wall when the first game came out.
and usually when they do it just feels like a half assed money grab stereotypical characters (looking at captain marvel vs something like Amanda Ripley)
You do realize Peter Parker and Miles Morales are different people, right? So that really just leaves you with the argument that you’re mad because the focus has been shifted to a black character.
Next you’ll tell me you’re mad that Gwen Stacy has blonde hair lmao.
Why are you playing dumb? That’s how franchises work, thats how comics work, they switch actors and characters all the time. You pissed at Dr. Who? What about Batman? Some of those movies completely rework the character/backstory.
This happens all. the. time. without much worry at all. The only difference this time is that a minority group is getting the spotlight for like five fucking minutes while a bunch of idiots whine about it.
What about Batman? He was rebooted many times but he was always Bruce Wayne? Same as Superman and Spider-man? James Bond was also rebooted many times but he was always the same James Bond. What are you talking about? Making stuff up … You making me look bad cause minorities and all that shit when I never said I had the problem with Miles being black. I would also have a problem if they replaced Peter with another white guy because the color of the skin is not relevant, it’s that Spider-man will always be Peter Parker and that’s it. Go make Miles an original superhero and I would love him the same as Peter …
He was rebooted many times but he was always Bruce Wayne?
No. He was dead numerous times and other people took up the mantle. Most notable Dick Grayson.
I don’t know how it is in the games, but in the comics he was originally someone who lived in the same world as the old Spider-Man and took up the mantle. Peter Parker wasn’t replaced as a character, he was just dead.
People who acted as Iron Man, who were not Tony Stark:
Weasel Willis,
Mary Jane Watson,
Ultron,
Iron Lad,
Pepper Potts,
Norman Osborn,
James Rhodes,
People who acted as Captain America who were not Steve Rogers:
Bucky Barnes,
Danielle Cage,
Sam Wilson,
Misty Knight,
John Walker,
Peggy Carter,
I feel like that’s good enough. You think you got me with 007, but that’s based off of novels and not comics/sci-fi. And either way, clearly you’re ignorant to how fictional media functions, specifically relating to comic super-heroes.
Also, you know what’s really fucked up? Spider Man is American by cannon. Can you fucking believe they used an English actor for the current franchise?
Genuine question for the homies who have played Spider-Man 2: did they write Miles to be any more interesting? I liked Spider-Man 1 Peter’s dialogue and jokes, like, a lot. I enjoyed playing as Miles in his own game, but I thought the character was boring, just, so so boring. Especially in contrast to Spiderverse’s version of Miles. I haven’t bought 2 yet, is Miles more fun to listen to this time? Could I enjoy Spider-Man 3 as a full Miles game if I thought that the Spider-Man: Miles Morales game had a disappointing protagonist?
I’m not finished with the game yet, but I’m a decent chunk into it.
They have really focused on his development more. In a way they’re copying the normal Spiderman story (how to cope with balancing being a super hero versus having a regular life) but they’re changing it a little bit by having him deal with emotions and plot points from the Miles Morales spin-off. And he’s also balancing Pete who is going through the classic symbiote stuff.
I’d consider him a more interesting Spider-Man than the last game, but his regular life development isn’t any more interesting. But I’m probably about half to 2/3 through the game so that could change.
I’m currently playing Spider man 2 and trying to explain it without spoilers is a bit tough.
They done a decent job combining Peter and Miles story but their story isn’t the main one. Main one is Venom, second is Peter and then Miles.
Miles isn’t per se more interesting within the game unfortunately. Still the same Miles that’s trying to learn from Peter.
However Miles abilities are much more interesting in my opinion.
I hope if and when Spider man 3 comes, the story will be more about Miles about his past and how he develops as Spider man.
I really enjoy the character of miles he is just such a nice wholesome kid . I really enjoyed him in spiderman 2 but his story wasn’t that deep . With the end of spiderman 2 I don’t think there is much more they can do with Peter . So there is lots of room to expand on miles .
Miles is the protagonist of easily the best super hero films since The Incredibles. Into The Spider-Verse is a universally acclaimed masterpiece. I don’t think Insomniac need any luck; Miles is pretty popular already.
That’s true, but this isn’t about the comics. I still haven’t beaten SM2, but it does obvious that they are heading towards Miles being the main SM going forward. He’s really going through an evolution arc while Peter is going through a real rough patch.
Miles is absolutely established as a hero of his own merit and right. Thats not a question. He absolutely stands shoulder to shoulder with parker.
But does he pass parker? Can he surpass what a lot of people consider to be the best marvel super hero, in his own costume and title? I dunno, Im not sure on that.
This might also be a generational question. Ask a kid, they might answer Miles. Ask a millennial or older who grew up with Parker primarily, likely a different answer
It is however true Miles hasn’t really appeared in the MCU (for teenagers and adults) nor is it made to be the main character in “Spidey and his amazing friends” kid TV series (though he’s well featured).
I suppose the Spider verse movies are good at making Miles Morales even more popular and can turn the perception, but new generations still get to see an awful lot of Peter.
Being older I’ve really only known Parker as Spider-Man, don’t even think I’ve watched any animated with Morales yet. The Miles Morales game kinda felt like a Gen-Z Parker to me, in the way they updated to a younger character but almost all of his dialogue felt like it could come from Parker though of course their personal situation and known people are different. I was a bit hesitant on the change at first (harder to take change sometimes heh) but at about halfway through Miles Morales game now I feel quite satisfied with how the cutscenes and story have played out, he feels like a good successor to the hero. I’m sure many people have had similar reactions over the years, especially between gold-silver age comic choices. I’ve always known multiple Flash characters (once I started watching more animated shows) so this isn’t much different.
I dunno, when it comes to the “gamer moment” meltdowns over this game, I haven’t seen them related to Miles, he seems to be pretty well-liked. I’ve mainly seen them over MJ’s design. Not saying I agree, just saying what I’ve observed.
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Well this is sure to piss off the snowflakes. Grab yer popcorn.
I like it. They’ve done a great job with Miles. He’s a breath of fresh air.
Spider-Man pointing at Spider-Man
Don’t care who the main character is in the game, both are fun to play.
It is a game, if it keeps me interest. That’s good and that’s all that matters
I already seen someone meltdown over this in discord and honestly why care so much? Its their spiderman story. I’m just waiting for a squad spiderverse game where you get to customize your spiderperson.
Of course they are. Peter Parker is a straight white male, and that is not an acceptable protagonist in 2023. I could see the writing on the wall when the first game came out.
Right? Cause white people are super fucking under-represented… /s
Look at yourself, Bud, and try to get a grip.
Nobody is saying they can’t create new characters, why change already established ones? Right, because nobody would give a shit about a new character
and usually when they do it just feels like a half assed money grab stereotypical characters (looking at captain marvel vs something like Amanda Ripley)
They aren’t changing Peter Parker, they’re just focusing on Miles. Tf are you talking about?
You do realize Peter Parker and Miles Morales are different people, right? So that really just leaves you with the argument that you’re mad because the focus has been shifted to a black character.
Next you’ll tell me you’re mad that Gwen Stacy has blonde hair lmao.
Why are you playing dumb? You know I’m talking about Spider-man as a character …
Why are you playing dumb? That’s how franchises work, thats how comics work, they switch actors and characters all the time. You pissed at Dr. Who? What about Batman? Some of those movies completely rework the character/backstory.
This happens all. the. time. without much worry at all. The only difference this time is that a minority group is getting the spotlight for like five fucking minutes while a bunch of idiots whine about it.
What about Batman? He was rebooted many times but he was always Bruce Wayne? Same as Superman and Spider-man? James Bond was also rebooted many times but he was always the same James Bond. What are you talking about? Making stuff up … You making me look bad cause minorities and all that shit when I never said I had the problem with Miles being black. I would also have a problem if they replaced Peter with another white guy because the color of the skin is not relevant, it’s that Spider-man will always be Peter Parker and that’s it. Go make Miles an original superhero and I would love him the same as Peter …
Isn’t there a famous comic series where Kal-el dies and other step into the Superman name?
No. He was dead numerous times and other people took up the mantle. Most notable Dick Grayson.
I don’t know how it is in the games, but in the comics he was originally someone who lived in the same world as the old Spider-Man and took up the mantle. Peter Parker wasn’t replaced as a character, he was just dead.
I fully realize how worthless a conversation this is, but it’s funny to see you reach for any reason to remain hateful.
People that acted as Batman at one time or another who were not Bruce Wayne:
Dick Grayson, Terry McGinnis, Damian Wayne (Bruce’s son), Azrael (thanks Zoolander, you really are more than really really good looking)
People that acted as Superman at one time or another who were not Clark kent:
Zod (fun one), Harvey Dent (really though), Kal Kent, Lex Luther (another fun one), Jon Kent, Conner Kent, Val-zod, Kenan Kong, Kal-el, Calvin Ellis
People who acted as Iron Man, who were not Tony Stark:
Weasel Willis, Mary Jane Watson, Ultron, Iron Lad, Pepper Potts, Norman Osborn, James Rhodes,
People who acted as Captain America who were not Steve Rogers:
Bucky Barnes, Danielle Cage, Sam Wilson, Misty Knight, John Walker, Peggy Carter,
I feel like that’s good enough. You think you got me with 007, but that’s based off of novels and not comics/sci-fi. And either way, clearly you’re ignorant to how fictional media functions, specifically relating to comic super-heroes.
Also, you know what’s really fucked up? Spider Man is American by cannon. Can you fucking believe they used an English actor for the current franchise?
WHO WILL PROTECT THE CANNON?!
Now I want to see the reactions of people by giving any Spider-Man an offensively hard French accent.
drags cigarette “Zee neighborhood can go zave itzelf… HUH HUH HUH, OOO LALA, OUI OUI”
Don’t worry, some day there will be a game with representation for whiny little piss babies like you.
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Do you have a humiliation fetish? Personally I avoid chances to make myself a public spectacle for mockery, but if that’s your thing…
Fuckin’ LOL, you fragile silly dork
Peak white male frigility on display
God damn it, you got your Facebook all over my Kbin.
Genuine question for the homies who have played Spider-Man 2: did they write Miles to be any more interesting? I liked Spider-Man 1 Peter’s dialogue and jokes, like, a lot. I enjoyed playing as Miles in his own game, but I thought the character was boring, just, so so boring. Especially in contrast to Spiderverse’s version of Miles. I haven’t bought 2 yet, is Miles more fun to listen to this time? Could I enjoy Spider-Man 3 as a full Miles game if I thought that the Spider-Man: Miles Morales game had a disappointing protagonist?
I’m not finished with the game yet, but I’m a decent chunk into it.
They have really focused on his development more. In a way they’re copying the normal Spiderman story (how to cope with balancing being a super hero versus having a regular life) but they’re changing it a little bit by having him deal with emotions and plot points from the Miles Morales spin-off. And he’s also balancing Pete who is going through the classic symbiote stuff.
I’d consider him a more interesting Spider-Man than the last game, but his regular life development isn’t any more interesting. But I’m probably about half to 2/3 through the game so that could change.
I’m currently playing Spider man 2 and trying to explain it without spoilers is a bit tough.
They done a decent job combining Peter and Miles story but their story isn’t the main one. Main one is Venom, second is Peter and then Miles.
Miles isn’t per se more interesting within the game unfortunately. Still the same Miles that’s trying to learn from Peter. However Miles abilities are much more interesting in my opinion.
I hope if and when Spider man 3 comes, the story will be more about Miles about his past and how he develops as Spider man.
I really enjoy the character of miles he is just such a nice wholesome kid . I really enjoyed him in spiderman 2 but his story wasn’t that deep . With the end of spiderman 2 I don’t think there is much more they can do with Peter . So there is lots of room to expand on miles .
I haven’t played that one yet but he seemed like a more interesting character and the typical peter Parker is so boring and dated.
First game was honestly like watching the original 2002 trilogy over again
Until he’s not. Dumb click bait headline. Nothing is forever.
Not that I dont support that, because I like miles more than parker, but good fucking luck
Miles is the protagonist of easily the best super hero films since The Incredibles. Into The Spider-Verse is a universally acclaimed masterpiece. I don’t think Insomniac need any luck; Miles is pretty popular already.
If you ask some randoms on the street “Who is spiderman?” I bet 99% will not say Miles Morales. If that changes its gonna be a while imo
That’s true, but this isn’t about the comics. I still haven’t beaten SM2, but it does obvious that they are heading towards Miles being the main SM going forward. He’s really going through an evolution arc while Peter is going through a real rough patch.
It’s not about any randos, though. It’s about PlayStation gamers.
This doesn’t answer any questions.
But…
Spiderman could be black.
https://youtu.be/sxjC4CNG3_c?si=FbMASu78CGb7i5kY
I vote for Glover instead!
Miles is absolutely established as a hero of his own merit and right. Thats not a question. He absolutely stands shoulder to shoulder with parker.
But does he pass parker? Can he surpass what a lot of people consider to be the best marvel super hero, in his own costume and title? I dunno, Im not sure on that.
This might also be a generational question. Ask a kid, they might answer Miles. Ask a millennial or older who grew up with Parker primarily, likely a different answer
That’s a very interesting answer!
It is however true Miles hasn’t really appeared in the MCU (for teenagers and adults) nor is it made to be the main character in “Spidey and his amazing friends” kid TV series (though he’s well featured).
I suppose the Spider verse movies are good at making Miles Morales even more popular and can turn the perception, but new generations still get to see an awful lot of Peter.
Being older I’ve really only known Parker as Spider-Man, don’t even think I’ve watched any animated with Morales yet. The Miles Morales game kinda felt like a Gen-Z Parker to me, in the way they updated to a younger character but almost all of his dialogue felt like it could come from Parker though of course their personal situation and known people are different. I was a bit hesitant on the change at first (harder to take change sometimes heh) but at about halfway through Miles Morales game now I feel quite satisfied with how the cutscenes and story have played out, he feels like a good successor to the hero. I’m sure many people have had similar reactions over the years, especially between gold-silver age comic choices. I’ve always known multiple Flash characters (once I started watching more animated shows) so this isn’t much different.
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Infamous was sucker punch, not insomniac. Insomniac made ratchet and clank as well as resistance fall of man.
If you listen, you can hear the gamers having a gamer moment and melting down
I dunno, when it comes to the “gamer moment” meltdowns over this game, I haven’t seen them related to Miles, he seems to be pretty well-liked. I’ve mainly seen them over MJ’s design. Not saying I agree, just saying what I’ve observed.