IMO One of the hardest parts about Emotions in games is the narrow edge between developing a loving relarionship and a caring One as a close friend. I loved the Characters and interactions in BG3 but Part of me wished there were also “comraderie Events” similar to stardew valley were there are Events for getting to know poeple closer without the intent to develop a sexual relarionship to the Character
Spot on. Its mainly for words for which have similar spellings in both languages and my autocorrect is used to german and wants to spell Things capitalized as often as it can
Thanks for explaining. I’m convinced that autocorrect and touch screen keyboards are behind a great deal of the bad grammar and weird sentences that we see online.
I’ve never found sex scenes in games appealing. First of all, there’s rarely any build up to them. If there is, it’s just sitting there, listening to an NPC talking about themseves for 10 minutes and selecting the “good” answer to gain “affinity points” and proceed with the dialogue.
Then you get to the sex scene, and it’s either fade to black immediately (hopefully), or two uncanny valley dolls touching each other for a few seconds.
After the sex scene, the partner becomes another NPC, sitting there doing nothing, having completed their purpose. So inspiring.
Most games unless it is a sex game shouldn’t have sex in it. My kids play lot of the same games I do and I don’t want them having access to sex in a game.
Most times it adds nothing to a story and is there just a preversion thing.
Why is it sad? Some people want sex to be a private thing that individuals do outside of the public eye. Not everyone is a coomer who wants to revolve their life around sexuality. Just because people have different values than you doesn’t make it sad.
Continuous exposure to sexual content throughout childhood can have significant effect on their sexuality later in life. I don’t think the same thing is true for shooting games.
Lots of games are made for adults, and relatively few mainstream games have sex scenes at all. Many of the games with sex scenes have an option to disable those scenes and nudity. Practically all of them have an M rating with specific content descriptors on the box or store page, making it easy for parents to avoid it altogether. All modern game platforms also have parental controls that can be set up in a couple minutes.
All this is to say that if kids are seeing sex scenes in games, it’s because their parents have ignored all the warnings and options. For a parent to say that these types of games should not be made (as one of the above commenters did) for adults because they’re too lazy and feckless to use any of the options available to control and monitor the types of content their children consume, when it’s been made so easy, is disturbing. It’s especially disheartening to see it in a gaming community, from someone who presumably plays games themselves and therefore has absolutely no excuse to not know about the options available. I’m accustomed to hearing it from places like Fox News, but not here.
Not everyone is a coomer who wants to revolve their life around sexuality.
You can acknowledge that sex exists without someone’s life revolving around it. Just like “wanting sex to be private” may not mean that someone is just terrified of the topic itself or thinks all sex is gross and should be avoided.
Just because people have different values than you doesn’t make it sad.
Some values become more of a target for criticism than others. “No one should make content that I don’t personally approve of” is one that I would categorize as worthy of criticism.
“No one should make content that I don’t personally approve of” is one that I would categorize as worthy of criticism.
Who said no one can make content if it has sex in it? People are just saying they don’t like it and everyone is sperging out about how children should see sexual content because they also see violence.
Sex is so much different than violence. Sexuality is something is developed over the life of a person and can be heavily influenced by early exposure. Where violence isn’t spurred on by video games (unless you are one of the boomers complaining that video games cause violence) because shooting people isn’t a part of normal life.
This just means that penetrative sex with a penis is not required. Doctors can either inseminate people directly, or implant fertilized embryos.
But the only effective way to harvest sperm is through ejaculation. I.e. masturbation. So you’re really not avoiding sex altogether. You’re just going about it differently.
Do you recognize that some people may have different values than your own and it’s ok for them to strive towards upholding them? You are not losing anything in life by not having pornographic scenes in video games.
No, I just don’t want needless sex in my games. I don’t care to make it illegal or anything but I’m speaking out that I do not enjoy sexuality in video games and think if that’s something people desire, they can find that sort of content elsewhere.
Gamers say they want parents to actually get involved and monitor the content kids interact with in games. A parent actually does monitor what their kids play, and suddenly gamers lose their minds.
In this case, OP is stating that he thinks no company should be making games with any type of sexual content. Just in case his kids want to play that game.
That goes beyond “monitoring what their kids play” and that’s why people are reacting strongly.
Kids that aren’t ready to see sex in games aren’t grown up enough to play those games to begin with. I don’t know any non-porn game with a nude sex scene in it that isn’t a violent murder simulator. Except maybe Sims but that isn’t even graphic and even kids just find that funny to see.
Having sex is probably something you will do in your life, mass murder is not.
And just as hitting several hookers in downtown los Santos with a virtual bolide won’t make you a deranged carkiller, being exposed to a booby won’t make you a sex-driven pervert.
Having sex is probably something you will do in your life, mass murder is not.
I would say this exactly why one topic is more sensitive than the other. No one goes around killing aliens with ray guns, so there really isn’t much to emulate there. Whereas sex appeals to our biology and on young impressionable children, it could have significant impact on them to be continuously exposed to it through media.
Your kids shouldn’t impact what artists choose to create, and parental controls and ratings systems exist for you to engage with (you probably should if you are scared of them seeing intimacy between grown adults)
I honestly don’t care if they do or don’t add this stuff, but please make it skippable. The last thing I want is some boring corporate-approved formulaic bland sex scene that I have to suffer through in the middle of an interactive game. At least movies and shows let me 30-second skip past that stuff. All of them are exactly the same sequence. It’s tedious.
As for flirtation being more important to in-game social interactions and dialog trees that could be fun. It could also set young people up for trouble. They’d be practicing the “wrong habits” that will get charges filed against them IRL.
The reason game designers are afraid of sex is because most of Western society is. Can games help turn that around? I don’t know, but probably not. The USA is super puritanical about all things sex (but blood, gore, and violence are generally OK).
I don’t want or care about sex scenes in anything. Cyberpunk 2077 definitely has this problem, and once I get to any stage where intimacy happens I just get up and let it play out so I don’t have to watch.
It’s well worth the play, and most (possibly all) can be avoided with the correct choices. But there’s some character work related to it that does enhance the story
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IMO One of the hardest parts about Emotions in games is the narrow edge between developing a loving relarionship and a caring One as a close friend. I loved the Characters and interactions in BG3 but Part of me wished there were also “comraderie Events” similar to stardew valley were there are Events for getting to know poeple closer without the intent to develop a sexual relarionship to the Character
Agreed on all points.
Out of curiosity, why did you capitalize random nouns in your comment, and leave the proper noun in lower case?
Germans capitalize their nouns. As for the lower case proper noun, probably just a mistake.
Spot on. Its mainly for words for which have similar spellings in both languages and my autocorrect is used to german and wants to spell Things capitalized as often as it can
That’s interesting, but I don’t think it’s because of a German commenter in this case, since only some some of the nouns are capitalized.
German autocorrect on a Smartphone is my Nemesis. I hope the incorrect spelling is Not too distracting
Thanks for explaining. I’m convinced that autocorrect and touch screen keyboards are behind a great deal of the bad grammar and weird sentences that we see online.
I’ve never found sex scenes in games appealing. First of all, there’s rarely any build up to them. If there is, it’s just sitting there, listening to an NPC talking about themseves for 10 minutes and selecting the “good” answer to gain “affinity points” and proceed with the dialogue.
Then you get to the sex scene, and it’s either fade to black immediately (hopefully), or two uncanny valley dolls touching each other for a few seconds.
After the sex scene, the partner becomes another NPC, sitting there doing nothing, having completed their purpose. So inspiring.
Most games unless it is a sex game shouldn’t have sex in it. My kids play lot of the same games I do and I don’t want them having access to sex in a game.
Most times it adds nothing to a story and is there just a preversion thing.
It’s sad that people think like this
Why is it sad? Some people want sex to be a private thing that individuals do outside of the public eye. Not everyone is a coomer who wants to revolve their life around sexuality. Just because people have different values than you doesn’t make it sad.
It’s sad that the commenter allows his children to go cyberpsycho on virtual bystanders but won’t allow them to see a nipple.
There is a reason the game has an age restriction.
Continuous exposure to sexual content throughout childhood can have significant effect on their sexuality later in life. I don’t think the same thing is true for shooting games.
It’s the parent’s job to control what their children consume
Sure but what does that have to do with what I said?
Continuous exposure to violent content throughout childhood does too.
Not to the same degree.
Lots of games are made for adults, and relatively few mainstream games have sex scenes at all. Many of the games with sex scenes have an option to disable those scenes and nudity. Practically all of them have an M rating with specific content descriptors on the box or store page, making it easy for parents to avoid it altogether. All modern game platforms also have parental controls that can be set up in a couple minutes.
All this is to say that if kids are seeing sex scenes in games, it’s because their parents have ignored all the warnings and options. For a parent to say that these types of games should not be made (as one of the above commenters did) for adults because they’re too lazy and feckless to use any of the options available to control and monitor the types of content their children consume, when it’s been made so easy, is disturbing. It’s especially disheartening to see it in a gaming community, from someone who presumably plays games themselves and therefore has absolutely no excuse to not know about the options available. I’m accustomed to hearing it from places like Fox News, but not here.
You can acknowledge that sex exists without someone’s life revolving around it. Just like “wanting sex to be private” may not mean that someone is just terrified of the topic itself or thinks all sex is gross and should be avoided.
Some values become more of a target for criticism than others. “No one should make content that I don’t personally approve of” is one that I would categorize as worthy of criticism.
Who said no one can make content if it has sex in it? People are just saying they don’t like it and everyone is sperging out about how children should see sexual content because they also see violence.
OP stated that only porn games should have any sexual content in them because his kids play video games.
She people aren’t kids should see sexual content, but that’s it’s weird to be against any kind of sexual content but not be bothered by violence.
Sex is so much different than violence. Sexuality is something is developed over the life of a person and can be heavily influenced by early exposure. Where violence isn’t spurred on by video games (unless you are one of the boomers complaining that video games cause violence) because shooting people isn’t a part of normal life.
So, your opinion is that any and all violent content is never a concern, and is appropriate for any age, even small children?
I have to say, that is not an opinion I’ve seen too often.
It is quite obvious this was posted by an American. They are such prudes when it comes to sex and nudity, but think violence is just swell.
Don’t get into this if you don’t want to get dogpiled by prudes. Lemmy is weirdly anti sex scenes.
Sex is required for every human to exist. I’m sorry it scares you but you’re kids are going to be fucking fine.
Akchually in-vitro fecundation is a thing.
This just means that penetrative sex with a penis is not required. Doctors can either inseminate people directly, or implant fertilized embryos.
But the only effective way to harvest sperm is through ejaculation. I.e. masturbation. So you’re really not avoiding sex altogether. You’re just going about it differently.
Do you consider masterbation sex? because uhh it isn’t
Solo sex. It’s definitely sexual at least.
Do you recognize that some people may have different values than your own and it’s ok for them to strive towards upholding them? You are not losing anything in life by not having pornographic scenes in video games.
Lol. You’re trying to censor an entire industry because the most natural human experience makes your nervous.
No, I just don’t want needless sex in my games. I don’t care to make it illegal or anything but I’m speaking out that I do not enjoy sexuality in video games and think if that’s something people desire, they can find that sort of content elsewhere.
Then play a game that doesn’t have sex. You’re like those people who want a difficulty slider in souls games. The game is not for you, my dude.
Or you can just look for games that don’t have the “sex and nudity” tag and stop complaining?
Hi, it’s good to understand the difference between pornography and narratives showing intimacy. Good day.
Gamers say they want parents to actually get involved and monitor the content kids interact with in games. A parent actually does monitor what their kids play, and suddenly gamers lose their minds.
In this case, OP is stating that he thinks no company should be making games with any type of sexual content. Just in case his kids want to play that game.
That goes beyond “monitoring what their kids play” and that’s why people are reacting strongly.
Kids that aren’t ready to see sex in games aren’t grown up enough to play those games to begin with. I don’t know any non-porn game with a nude sex scene in it that isn’t a violent murder simulator. Except maybe Sims but that isn’t even graphic and even kids just find that funny to see.
You allow them to murder hundreds of virtual people or creatures, but sex is a bridge too far?
Bet they are from the US?
“How dare they show a titty in my murder simulator.”
Unironically yes. Pornography appeals to our monkey brain in a way that violence doesn’t. Violence in media is just an expression of conflict.
Um, have you seen how vicious chimpanzees are when they fight? Violence 100% is monkey brain.
bro thought he said something smart
Having sex is probably something you will do in your life, mass murder is not.
And just as hitting several hookers in downtown los Santos with a virtual bolide won’t make you a deranged carkiller, being exposed to a booby won’t make you a sex-driven pervert.
I would say this exactly why one topic is more sensitive than the other. No one goes around killing aliens with ray guns, so there really isn’t much to emulate there. Whereas sex appeals to our biology and on young impressionable children, it could have significant impact on them to be continuously exposed to it through media.
Your kids shouldn’t impact what artists choose to create, and parental controls and ratings systems exist for you to engage with (you probably should if you are scared of them seeing intimacy between grown adults)
Take gf to burger place.
Take gf home.
Bang. Restore all health and status ailments.
Except crabs. Your character has crabs now.
How much more intimate do you need?
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Best way of designing intimacy in games?
Give both intimacy options names like Angel and Skye. Give the player no indication which one is male or female.
Lol yeah I made that mistake the first playthrough.
Oh shit, what was my safe word again? LET ME OUT!
SAMURAI SAMURAI SAMURAI
They fixed that, by the way. There’s a new UI that shows their faces.
I honestly don’t care if they do or don’t add this stuff, but please make it skippable. The last thing I want is some boring corporate-approved formulaic bland sex scene that I have to suffer through in the middle of an interactive game. At least movies and shows let me 30-second skip past that stuff. All of them are exactly the same sequence. It’s tedious.
As for flirtation being more important to in-game social interactions and dialog trees that could be fun. It could also set young people up for trouble. They’d be practicing the “wrong habits” that will get charges filed against them IRL.
The reason game designers are afraid of sex is because most of Western society is. Can games help turn that around? I don’t know, but probably not. The USA is super puritanical about all things sex (but blood, gore, and violence are generally OK).
Same
I don’t want or care about sex scenes in anything. Cyberpunk 2077 definitely has this problem, and once I get to any stage where intimacy happens I just get up and let it play out so I don’t have to watch.
Thanks for the warning. I haven’t played it yet, and it’s on my list.
It’s well worth the play, and most (possibly all) can be avoided with the correct choices. But there’s some character work related to it that does enhance the story
Thanks again. One of my friends keeps encouraging me to play it.