Four days until release! Hollow Knight: Silksong will be available on 4th September.
Release times:
7AM PT | 10AM ET | 4PM CEST | 11PM JST
Game price:
USD $19.99 | EUR €19.99 | JPY ¥2300
Four days until release! Hollow Knight: Silksong will be available on 4th September.
Release times:
7AM PT | 10AM ET | 4PM CEST | 11PM JST
We don’t deserve team cherry. They could’ve easily sold it for $40 and everybody would have bought it, but they mentioned before that they wanted their games to be affordable for more people to play.
Unfortunately AAA studios have a long rat tail of unproductive execs and managers that take a huge pay cut and investors need to be happy too so their games will soon cost $100.
They also have dev/art teams orders of magnitudes larger than Team Cherry. (I do agree with your sentiment about useless managers and execs, of course.)
They are very different scales of game, but they both exist within the same economic realities.
Big studios seem to be working on the basis that just because they spend millions on a game, the game automatically becomes worth whatever price tag they want to slap on it - as if it’s a natural law that pumping in more money should directly translate to more revenue, without fail.
But it turns out the value of a game is not what publishers hope its worth - its what players percieve it is worth.
So it’s no surprise that indie games with amazing price-to-value ratios are seeing a surge, while big studios are struggling and don’t seem to have any ability to understand why their business model isn’t working.
Publishers are all shocked pikachu when their big budget games fall flat, but If people don’t want to buy an $80 game it’s not their fault - it’s your fault for not doing enough to justify the price tag.
My message to studios isn’t “your games should all be $20” (although some of them should) it’s “you should provide value that matches the price tag” - and Silksong over here just laid down the gauntlet as a game which looks set to deliver tonnes of value for relatively little cost.
Wow! Between BG3, CO:E33, and Sliksong, all the AAA lies are falling away. They don’t have to cost the user an arm and a leg, they can be beautiful works of art and love from small(ish) teams, and they can be an experience that is so rich in player choice it’s practically unique and highly replayable.
no matter how many times I see it, that’s still a wild spelling of that word and shouldn’t be allowed. in fact you should go to jail for it. fucking ghoti-ass spelling.
I’m in the same boat. Hollow knight never clicked for me but I get what people like about it. Silksong looks like hollow knight with better combat though so that will make it more enjoyable for me…probably.
Basically my take. The lore and art take Hollow Knight over the top to Goat status, but it does not dethrone Blasphemous 2 for me… I’m not entirely sure anything can.
Yeah. Similar sentiment here. For me, spending $20 is my special way of flipping the bird at Nintendo and every other greedy AAA studios for wanting to jack up the price of games.
Same. Hollow Knight’s combat and platforming simply didn’t click. But, the atmosphere of that game is simply impeccable. That, to me, makes Hollow Knight an amazing video game, just one not for me.
im a huge metroidvania fan, but i have yet to play hollow knight. i know this studio deserves everything it gets so for $20 ill be getting it day 1. i know ill be playing both at some point down the line
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We don’t deserve team cherry. They could’ve easily sold it for $40 and everybody would have bought it, but they mentioned before that they wanted their games to be affordable for more people to play.
Take note AAA studios - this is how you do it.
With this pricing, Silksong may be the only game this year that I’ll actually purchase on release day.
Unfortunately AAA studios have a long rat tail of unproductive execs and managers that take a huge pay cut and investors need to be happy too so their games will soon cost $100.
They also have dev/art teams orders of magnitudes larger than Team Cherry. (I do agree with your sentiment about useless managers and execs, of course.)
Reducing team size and making smaller games to split the risk is also an option imo
Comparing a 2D sprite-based Unity sidescroller, made by 4 dudes, to something like Death Stranding is not exactly fair.
Depends on what basis one is comparing it.
They are very different scales of game, but they both exist within the same economic realities.
Big studios seem to be working on the basis that just because they spend millions on a game, the game automatically becomes worth whatever price tag they want to slap on it - as if it’s a natural law that pumping in more money should directly translate to more revenue, without fail.
But it turns out the value of a game is not what publishers hope its worth - its what players percieve it is worth.
So it’s no surprise that indie games with amazing price-to-value ratios are seeing a surge, while big studios are struggling and don’t seem to have any ability to understand why their business model isn’t working.
Publishers are all shocked pikachu when their big budget games fall flat, but If people don’t want to buy an $80 game it’s not their fault - it’s your fault for not doing enough to justify the price tag.
My message to studios isn’t “your games should all be $20” (although some of them should) it’s “you should provide value that matches the price tag” - and Silksong over here just laid down the gauntlet as a game which looks set to deliver tonnes of value for relatively little cost.
True. The 2D sprite-based Unity sidescroller will actually be fun.
RIP Steam download servers.
Hollow Knight was only $15 and got a lot of free DLC. The developers considered it a huge success.
Wow! Between BG3, CO:E33, and Sliksong, all the AAA lies are falling away. They don’t have to cost the user an arm and a leg, they can be beautiful works of art and love from small(ish) teams, and they can be an experience that is so rich in player choice it’s practically unique and highly replayable.
This is how to do it
Believe it or not, right to gaol.
From experience… Hmmmm $120 take it or leave it.
no matter how many times I see it, that’s still a wild spelling of that word and shouldn’t be allowed. in fact you should go to jail for it. fucking ghoti-ass spelling.
gaol has the best jraphics.
Playing Bloodborne and getting unexpectedly sucked into Hypogean Gaol really cemented that spelling into my brain.
For ever!
Whoa. Enormous respect to Team Cherry for this. It’s so cool to see people not rinsing passionate fans! Well done 🤘
Many others would’ve made it at least twice as much, knowing that regardless of the cost, it would’ve sold like crazy.
For all of team cherry’s trolling the past two years, this is a welcome surprise.
That’s basically giving it away. I guess they can very well expect to make the money back in volume.
I bought hallow knight 3 times. Seems Silk Song will be the same.
If they’re only pricing it $20, how do explain the €100 I’m about to spend on it???
The founders edition will come with a hornet figurine mom! It’s going to only increase in value!!!
I don’t really like games like this (I know Hollow Knight is a masterpiece if you do) but I’d be tempted to buy it for $20 just to support the studio
I’m in the same boat. Hollow knight never clicked for me but I get what people like about it. Silksong looks like hollow knight with better combat though so that will make it more enjoyable for me…probably.
Basically my take. The lore and art take Hollow Knight over the top to Goat status, but it does not dethrone Blasphemous 2 for me… I’m not entirely sure anything can.
Blasphemous 2 never dethroned Hollow Knight.
I think you may have missed the “for me” in that users sentence. It’s their opinion that Blasphemous 2 is more enjoyable than Hollow Knight.
Excuse me, MagusFungus actually wrote the book on Vanilla_PuddinFudge, and can be considered the authority on the subject.
Vanilla pudding fudge sounds like something I clean up after my cat finds,& eats, a new plant
Blasphemy!
Yeah. Similar sentiment here. For me, spending $20 is my special way of flipping the bird at Nintendo and every other greedy AAA studios for wanting to jack up the price of games.
Same. Hollow Knight’s combat and platforming simply didn’t click. But, the atmosphere of that game is simply impeccable. That, to me, makes Hollow Knight an amazing video game, just one not for me.
im a huge metroidvania fan, but i have yet to play hollow knight. i know this studio deserves everything it gets so for $20 ill be getting it day 1. i know ill be playing both at some point down the line
I think I’ve spent more time waiting for Silksong in the past week than ever before.
At $20 this is a day one Steam purchase for me. Even if I don’t get around to playing it for the next several months.