JAST, Kagura, DlSite, Itch, Patreon, and GOG are some vendors. I recommend JAST and Kagura, since they are dedicated to perverse games. DlSite is good if you want to buy Japanese exclusive games, and then pirate the unofficially translated versions.
Note that from some countries (germany at least) you might need a vpn to access the 18+ parts of DLsite (on that note, both steam and gog have a few porn games delisted if you’re in germany, thanks to some “think of the children” people, but JAST sells them anyway if they have it)
nickyflowers: It would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. The advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though their definitions of family and friendly are fucked. But since they’re in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. TikTokers say things like “unalive” and “seggs” because they know death and sex are too adult for online. Online is for idiot babies only now because they’re easier to market to.
nickyflowers: Oh I’m sorry you’re a trans adult? Super ban. You are super banned for life. You have upset Visa’s feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. How could you do this to Google Ads?
Absolutely spot on. It reminds me of a comment I saw somewhere on here a few months ago where some clown used “seggs” and someone else responded to them and said they can just say sex because there aren’t any algorithms here that would cause problems for them. The clown has a complete meltdown and ranted and raved in response about how they’ve been using “seggs” long before the internet or some wild shit like that and how dare anyone tell them that they don’t have to use it here. The really fucked up thing was that he got a bunch of up votes and the person they lost their minds on was down voted to hell. I felt like I was losing my mind reading that interaction.
Hey if you want to goon and not pay might I suggest F95zone a wonderful porn game forum with a very good search system. I think it’s the dot to that’s the proper site, but it’s hard to think right now because everything hurts for no fucking reason.
I didn’t know this till I heard a podcast series about this, but the global rulemakes for porn are Visa and Mastercard. They decide what “goes too far” and remove a site from their service if they don’t like it, effectively cutting off all revenue streams and killing the site. They did this with porn sites and threatened OnlyFans. There are a bunch of rules they’ve written for the industry (e.g. fingering an orofice with4 fingers was acceptable, but when the thumb goes in then it becomes “fisting” and this used to be unacceptable), but many rules are unwritten and have to be guessed.
I think this is the podcast series for anyone interested (although I heard this a long time ago and I’m not sure if it was a different series and I’m not going to listen again to confirm).
yup they did this a LONG time ago with porn sites and DVD sales. I used to work in that industry as a web developer in the early 00s. Third party billers specifically set up for the porn industry thrived because of this.
there were many silly rules like you said, no fisting, at most two fingers in the asshole, Incest was “OK” as long as it was “step-” whatever BUT you could get away with it if you laid the ground work initially and say “step-mom” or whatever and then later on just say “mom”. Step-Dad was…hit or miss if you could get away with it. Scat was a no go BUT piss was ok IF it was from Europe, sorry US folks, you’re not allowed to piss on each other and film it in the good ol United States according to Visa and Mastercard. Finally some stuff like gang bangs or “abuse” porn was fine AS LONG as the girl at the end of the video has a mini interview claiming what a great time she had while covered in jizz. Visa and Mastercard needed to ensure this lady enjoyed herself.
fucking really dumb rules and I would have LOVED to be a fly in the room when Visa and Mastercard lawyers came up with these things.
This is gold!! I’d love to read more about it!! It’s very fascinating how payment system can control the type of content that is available for consumers
While the effect of not having as much random porn on steam is kinda nice, the underlying reasons for this are fucking horrifying because it’s further proof that some giant american companies (visa, paypal, mastercard) are the global morality police.
And it’s just random porn subgenres getting removed anyway so it kinda does nothing about the flood of those anyway.
While the effect of not having as much random porn on steam is kinda nice, the underlying reasons for this are fucking horrifying because it’s further proof that some giant american companies (visa, paypal, mastercard) are the global morality police.
They have been for decades. You just aren’t going to see news stories anywhere major when what’s being banned by the morality police is something like loli or zoo content, but stuff no one wants to publicly defend are targeted first to set precedent to justify anything else they might want to ban later.
See the H.L. Mencken quote about defending scoundrels.
It won’t be random - MasterVisa attacks the more ‘vile’ genres first to establish precedent, then they will start to persecute LGBTQ+ sexuality. The endgame is to define your everyday life, including whom you are allowed to love.
It’s only a matter of time before they come for furry stuff. They did it with fansly. It’s apparently “simulated bestiality” and from what I’ve heard you aren’t even allowed to reference trans puppy girls, pup play, etc without getting banned.
Wait, puppy play would get you banned? Isn’t that just, like, wearing funny ears and walking around on hands and knees or whatever? Maybe at most a tail buttplug? I don’t really get the appeal myself, but it seems pretty damn benign.
So?
It’s a game with a representation of something that can’t even happen. It doesn’t even get to the point where you could have a discussion about simulation creating a demand for real that some things have because it’s not even remotely realistic.
It’s not my cup of tea, but that just means I don’t look at it.
It’s because you think it’s icky and you don’t know how to handle those feelings, isn’t it?
Otherwise you’re lying to yourself. I think children not getting exposed for cartoon porn is a pretty good stop. Especially when the perpetrators seem to think it’s harmless.
Stop pretending that furries is about anything other than fantasy of fucking your favorite cartoon please.
You should work on learning how to handle those feelings. Most people just ignore it when other people do stuff they think is gross if it’s not hurting anyone.
For example, I think egg salad is pretty gross. I manage this in my day to day life by “not buying egg salad”, and if I run into it I usually just “move along quickly”, or say “oh, no thank you”.
I doubt people are as pushy with furry porn as they are with egg salad, unless you and I live in shockingly different worlds.
What happens between two (or more) consenting adults that isn’t causing harm to others is none of your business.
Don’t like it? Don’t do it or watch it or play games themed around it.
And don’t be a sad individual who is only able to get joy from shitting on things others like. Because that life only ends in you dying miserable and alone, with nobody to mourn your passing and the last time your name is spoken being by the priest who rushes through a form-letter eulogy to get you sent off to the beyond as quick as possible.
Some, maybe. Regardless, if two consenting adults want to pretend to be animals or even pretend to be kids while they hump I really don’t see a problem.
I hope that the EU creates a digital currency system that is universal, and for privacy coins to become common. I don’t want to deal with American payment processors, because they want to prevent me from supporting the people who make my life better.
Payment should be a dumb pipe, allowing me and you to uphold the social contract.
The EU is investigating a digital euro, but you won’t be pleased to learn that one of the key reasons is to increase tracking and compliance. Meaning their stated goal is to be able to restrict how the currency is used, by who, when, and on what. The EU is the very last organisation to ever create and maintain an anonymous and agnostic currency. We have that already with monero.
One protest away from being banned from using currency, from purchasing or even getting paid. Why invest in military police when you can just mass ostracise dissenters with one click
Ability to pay for anything legal implies accountability. I doubt payment processors are creating these rules because they’re afraid of Jesus.
They just did the math and there’s probably a ton of disputes/chargebacks on certain content.
Should two consenting adults be able to pay each other for whatever the fuck - absolutely. But dumb pipe only sounds really good until you get scammed.
God forbid anything be due to a loss of consumer rights due to deregulation caused by conservatives. No, instead it must be capitalism. Everything bad is capitalism. The reason China is a dictatorship is because Capitalism. Israeli ethnic cleansing as well as the prior milleniums of holy war? Believe it or not, Capitalism.
This is actually a really good idea. The people that want these kinda games are either underage horndogs on their parents computer, or able to use crypto.
Steam used to accept Bitcoin, they stopped when the transaction fees made it unusable. Every time I remember that I get really pissed off, had the block size been increased back then Bitcoin would still be accepted in the many places it was (Steam wasn’t the only one, lots of stores online used to accept it), but because they kept promising a magic solution that never manifested people lost hope and jumped ship (which did solved the problem as nowadays only investors use Bitcoin, so a lot less transactions, a lot more value in them, and higher fees matter less)
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If you can’t buy these games on Steam anymore, where can you buy them?
Piratebay.
either patreon or itch-io. But it does depend on the creator. You’ll find many Japanese games on dl-site for example.
JAST, Kagura, DlSite, Itch, Patreon, and GOG are some vendors. I recommend JAST and Kagura, since they are dedicated to perverse games. DlSite is good if you want to buy Japanese exclusive games, and then pirate the unofficially translated versions.
Note that from some countries (germany at least) you might need a vpn to access the 18+ parts of DLsite (on that note, both steam and gog have a few porn games delisted if you’re in germany, thanks to some “think of the children” people, but JAST sells them anyway if they have it)
Yeah that even applies to some games that aren’t porn games but just feature nudity like the Fear & Hunger series.
These at least show up when logged in but are there ones that you can’t see at all without VPN?
Y’all care about kinky games on steam? Isn’t that what’s itch.io for?
Honest question. I never bought something fucky on steam.
Only a matter of time before the same thing happens to itch.io
It started on itch, which I’m betting is one reason why so many moved to steam
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nickyflowers: It would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. The advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though their definitions of family and friendly are fucked. But since they’re in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. TikTokers say things like “unalive” and “seggs” because they know death and sex are too adult for online. Online is for idiot babies only now because they’re easier to market to.
nickyflowers: Oh I’m sorry you’re a trans adult? Super ban. You are super banned for life. You have upset Visa’s feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. How could you do this to Google Ads?
Absolutely spot on. It reminds me of a comment I saw somewhere on here a few months ago where some clown used “seggs” and someone else responded to them and said they can just say sex because there aren’t any algorithms here that would cause problems for them. The clown has a complete meltdown and ranted and raved in response about how they’ve been using “seggs” long before the internet or some wild shit like that and how dare anyone tell them that they don’t have to use it here. The really fucked up thing was that he got a bunch of up votes and the person they lost their minds on was down voted to hell. I felt like I was losing my mind reading that interaction.
Hey if you want to goon and not pay might I suggest F95zone a wonderful porn game forum with a very good search system. I think it’s the dot to that’s the proper site, but it’s hard to think right now because everything hurts for no fucking reason.
I didn’t know this till I heard a podcast series about this, but the global rulemakes for porn are Visa and Mastercard. They decide what “goes too far” and remove a site from their service if they don’t like it, effectively cutting off all revenue streams and killing the site. They did this with porn sites and threatened OnlyFans. There are a bunch of rules they’ve written for the industry (e.g. fingering an orofice with4 fingers was acceptable, but when the thumb goes in then it becomes “fisting” and this used to be unacceptable), but many rules are unwritten and have to be guessed.
I think this is the podcast series for anyone interested (although I heard this a long time ago and I’m not sure if it was a different series and I’m not going to listen again to confirm).
yup they did this a LONG time ago with porn sites and DVD sales. I used to work in that industry as a web developer in the early 00s. Third party billers specifically set up for the porn industry thrived because of this.
there were many silly rules like you said, no fisting, at most two fingers in the asshole, Incest was “OK” as long as it was “step-” whatever BUT you could get away with it if you laid the ground work initially and say “step-mom” or whatever and then later on just say “mom”. Step-Dad was…hit or miss if you could get away with it. Scat was a no go BUT piss was ok IF it was from Europe, sorry US folks, you’re not allowed to piss on each other and film it in the good ol United States according to Visa and Mastercard. Finally some stuff like gang bangs or “abuse” porn was fine AS LONG as the girl at the end of the video has a mini interview claiming what a great time she had while covered in jizz. Visa and Mastercard needed to ensure this lady enjoyed herself.
fucking really dumb rules and I would have LOVED to be a fly in the room when Visa and Mastercard lawyers came up with these things.
I…
This is gold!! I’d love to read more about it!! It’s very fascinating how payment system can control the type of content that is available for consumers
It was pretty wild. I wish I still had the list of visa/MC “no-nos”
I mean honestly the US government was more lax. all they wanted was us to ensure we were following the 2257 stuff and documenting all the talent.
surprisingly though American Express was a lot more “liberal” with this stuff. guess those dudes were just kinkier.
Finally good news
While the effect of not having as much random porn on steam is kinda nice, the underlying reasons for this are fucking horrifying because it’s further proof that some giant american companies (visa, paypal, mastercard) are the global morality police.
And it’s just random porn subgenres getting removed anyway so it kinda does nothing about the flood of those anyway.
They have been for decades. You just aren’t going to see news stories anywhere major when what’s being banned by the morality police is something like loli or zoo content, but stuff no one wants to publicly defend are targeted first to set precedent to justify anything else they might want to ban later.
See the H.L. Mencken quote about defending scoundrels.
It won’t be random - MasterVisa attacks the more ‘vile’ genres first to establish precedent, then they will start to persecute LGBTQ+ sexuality. The endgame is to define your everyday life, including whom you are allowed to love.
There’s a box you have to check in your settings to even see it. Just turn that off if you don’t want to see it.
What happens when someone bought these games. Do they get deleted from their computers and/or from their accounts? Do they get reimbursed?
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Even after comment removal, their message lives on…
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It’s only a matter of time before they come for furry stuff. They did it with fansly. It’s apparently “simulated bestiality” and from what I’ve heard you aren’t even allowed to reference trans puppy girls, pup play, etc without getting banned.
Wait, puppy play would get you banned? Isn’t that just, like, wearing funny ears and walking around on hands and knees or whatever? Maybe at most a tail buttplug? I don’t really get the appeal myself, but it seems pretty damn benign.
Good. That shit is vile.
So?
It’s a game with a representation of something that can’t even happen. It doesn’t even get to the point where you could have a discussion about simulation creating a demand for real that some things have because it’s not even remotely realistic.
It’s not my cup of tea, but that just means I don’t look at it.
It’s because you think it’s icky and you don’t know how to handle those feelings, isn’t it?
I find the fact that people want to fuck animals pretty nasty, yes.
Well then stuff your puritanical BS. Stop making your discomfort towards something that causes no harm into someone else’s problem.
As long as the shit is on the internet where kids can find it, i’m gonna have problems with it.
Do you think Lemmy checks for age?
Stop using children as a stand-in for your discomfort. That is so overdone.
I’m sure you have your limit too.
Otherwise you’re lying to yourself. I think children not getting exposed for cartoon porn is a pretty good stop. Especially when the perpetrators seem to think it’s harmless.
Stop pretending that furries is about anything other than fantasy of fucking your favorite cartoon please.
You should work on learning how to handle those feelings. Most people just ignore it when other people do stuff they think is gross if it’s not hurting anyone.
For example, I think egg salad is pretty gross. I manage this in my day to day life by “not buying egg salad”, and if I run into it I usually just “move along quickly”, or say “oh, no thank you”.
I doubt people are as pushy with furry porn as they are with egg salad, unless you and I live in shockingly different worlds.
People doesn’t put egg salad on their face and say its their gender.
Grow up. You’ll have a better time if you learn to live and let live without being bothered by what other people do that doesn’t involve you.
Oh let people enjoy stuff you don’t agree with
Sure. You like beastialty too?
Oh damn, ya got me
If it’s fiction, who fucking cares?
Have you ever heard of the straw man fallacy?
Less vile than those who shame harmless kinks
“harmless”
Consenting adults doing something in private triggers your harm alarm?
Thank you for your contribution, it’s suitably appreciated.
Hey, no kink shaming!
What happens between two (or more) consenting adults that isn’t causing harm to others is none of your business.
Don’t like it? Don’t do it or watch it or play games themed around it.
And don’t be a sad individual who is only able to get joy from shitting on things others like. Because that life only ends in you dying miserable and alone, with nobody to mourn your passing and the last time your name is spoken being by the priest who rushes through a form-letter eulogy to get you sent off to the beyond as quick as possible.
It does extend to others since they put animated, innocent “kid-friendly” looking porn on imageboards.
And yes it’s akin to beastialty which is vile. Why else would you dress up like an animal?
why shouldn’t people be allowed to make artistic choices when drawing pornography?
They can keep the beastialty shit to themselves.
Let the adults be adults, and let the parents to their jobs. No need to grandstand on something so petty.
Nice of you to justify beastialty on Steam.
90000% agreeing with you, video games are for little children and should never contain any adult material!
You don’t have to like it, I’m certainly not into it. Still failing to see how it not being for you justifies puritanical bans
It’s not puritanical when the subject hints at beastialty. If you want to fuck animals, seek help.
Does a diaper wearing fetish predispose someone to pedophilia? This reeks of slippery slope fallacy
They probably do wear diapers aswell.
you must be into beastility, if your projecting this much about it, .
Thanks there Freud. You got me there. Can’t wait to get home and unload my insecurities in the next animal i see. 🙃
Some, maybe. Regardless, if two consenting adults want to pretend to be animals or even pretend to be kids while they hump I really don’t see a problem.
That’s the fucking thing. It’s played up to the point that kids might find it and like it.
It wouldn’t be a problem if they didn’t fucking have conventions celebrating it. With kids.
Or, you know. On FUCKING STEAM.
Fuck off
Just because you get hard from stroking your pet, doesn’t mean that it’s healthy.
That’s different than cub stuff right?
Yes. Cub stuff can be banned for all I care.
I hope that the EU creates a digital currency system that is universal, and for privacy coins to become common. I don’t want to deal with American payment processors, because they want to prevent me from supporting the people who make my life better.
Payment should be a dumb pipe, allowing me and you to uphold the social contract.
The EU is investigating a digital euro, but you won’t be pleased to learn that one of the key reasons is to increase tracking and compliance. Meaning their stated goal is to be able to restrict how the currency is used, by who, when, and on what. The EU is the very last organisation to ever create and maintain an anonymous and agnostic currency. We have that already with monero.
One protest away from being banned from using currency, from purchasing or even getting paid. Why invest in military police when you can just mass ostracise dissenters with one click
Exactly. That level of control scares me.
I hope too, but likely will be shut down by the US, for “unfair state meddling with the free market”.
Ability to pay for anything legal implies accountability. I doubt payment processors are creating these rules because they’re afraid of Jesus.
They just did the math and there’s probably a ton of disputes/chargebacks on certain content.
Should two consenting adults be able to pay each other for whatever the fuck - absolutely. But dumb pipe only sounds really good until you get scammed.
For starters, the biggest owners of both Visa and Mastercard are Mormons, so…
Incest tales: Sister and Mom is my favorite.
What’s next, loli hentai?
Nah, too many politicians like those for them to get banned.
Nah nah, it’s going to get banned, because the politicians dont need to pretend with virtual lolis /s/
I hate that this comment is too close to reality.
As long as I get to keep my VR Paradise
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You’re like the negative photo of a boomer. “Everything I don’t like is capitalism!”
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God forbid anything be due to a loss of consumer rights due to deregulation caused by conservatives. No, instead it must be capitalism. Everything bad is capitalism. The reason China is a dictatorship is because Capitalism. Israeli ethnic cleansing as well as the prior milleniums of holy war? Believe it or not, Capitalism.
It’s not unrelated to the puritanical thing. Otherwise they wouldn’t be afraid of losing money facilitating payments for porn.
Steam should accept bitcoin or some other crypto as default for all titles and only use card for “safe” titles
Steam users are mostly tech savvy enough to do it
This is actually a really good idea. The people that want these kinda games are either underage horndogs on their parents computer, or able to use crypto.
Still waiting for NANO to become widespread 💀
They had Bitcoin integration for quite a while. It was removed during a system change, probably because very few people used it
i had no idea and i’ve held crypto in some form or another since 2014. Maybe it wasnt marketed well
Steam used to accept Bitcoin, they stopped when the transaction fees made it unusable. Every time I remember that I get really pissed off, had the block size been increased back then Bitcoin would still be accepted in the many places it was (Steam wasn’t the only one, lots of stores online used to accept it), but because they kept promising a magic solution that never manifested people lost hope and jumped ship (which did solved the problem as nowadays only investors use Bitcoin, so a lot less transactions, a lot more value in them, and higher fees matter less)
well now we have lightning maybe the time has come to try again.
Having already had an implementation working should hopefully help
Can I send them an unmarked envelope with enough money to buy the games I want, with only my username in the envelope?
That would be cool.
But agreed, I think steam should accept crypto.
First they came for the incestuous porn
Then they came for the furries
Then they came for games with violence
Then…
Then…
Then…
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Nah they love violence. It keeps the gravy seals as hapless betas.
The violent video games though, those are the latest satanic panic I’ve been aware of thanks to that idiot Jack Thompson
If they’re going to enforce that rule impartially, they’ll have to ban Crusader Kings III as well.