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Didn’t plan to buy one, before the S2 was announced.
The number of anti consumer actions they take is amazing. They still hate YouTube. Instead of making their games not suck, they sue anyone who dares to try. They have a handful of console exclusive that even interest me, everything else I’ll get in Steam and it’ll play better, have cloud save, and a refund policy.
I bought a NES in the 80s because it was the most amazing, magical thing. Now I’m at the point of ‘Fuck Nintendo, let it fall’
Me, not being a little baby man, am going to buy one at some point because I want to play the Zeldas and the Marios and no one is gonna keep me from enjoying those games when they come out—and I’m still gonna emulate on my Retroid ‘cause fuck Big Gaming.
Why? The first Switch is pretty fantastic for my use case, which is casual gaming w/ my kids, their friends, and my nephews/nieces.
I also have a Steam Deck and most of my gaming money goes to PC games. But I do like the Zelda series, so I’ll buy a handful of games now and then for the Switch (usually as gifts to my kids for X-mas or whatever to kill two birds w/ one stone).
Sure, if it’s not a good value for you, then don’t buy it. Console games have never been cheap, and consoles have generally been affordable (not cheap).
No, I get it. You really don’t need to post an entire breakdown when I can read it on any gaming site. These never seem to take into account that manufacturing games has become much cheaper or that the majority of games are sold digitally which have negligible costs compared to physical. Maybe I’m wrong about that but at the end of the day we are still getting used to $70 when it comes to modern consoles—so Nintendo thinking their games are worth more than that on top of being a generation behind? It’s a shitty look, honestly, especially combined with the other crap that’s come out about pricing since the reveal
You might be right, but basically everyone is expecting there to be significant features of MKW which are as yet unannounced but will be featured in the upcoming Nintendo direct which is focused on that game specifically.
There is certainly an argument to be made about DLC cost being included upfront (and Zelda was already $90 on Switch 1 including the DLC) to avoid splitting up the player base for a game with an online focus. That might not be what they’re doing, but my point is there are things they could do to justify the price increase for many players.
They also might just do nothing more than what’s already been announced, but I doubt it because why then would they do another reveal later?
Sure, the physical distribution is cheaper, but the development is way more expensive. That’s largely offset by more sales, hence the gradually reducing real price of games.
Yeah, it’s never fun seeing prices go up, but they tend to stay pretty flat during a console generation. So at the start, they’re making more than at the end, when inflation has chipped away at the value they’re getting per sale.
I’m not saying it’s “good” or anything, I also prefer cheaper games, just that it’s understandable when looking at pricing history compared to inflation.
WOULDN’T THAT KIND OF DEPEND ON WHAT MING THE MERCILESS WAS PLAYING? YOU GOTTA GET SOME STRINGS IN THERE TO BE A PROPER KISS TRIBUTE BAND, SO IF HE WHIPPED OUT AN ELECTRIC MANDOLIN OR SOMETHING, I MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN LISTENING TO WHAT THEY COME UP WITH. I’D EVEN TAKE A BANJO.
I’M NOT SUPPORTING EITHER PERSON (FAKE OR REAL) IN ANY WAY, JUST BEING HONEST.
Loud person who makes their entire personality disliking Nintendo tells you not to buy Nintendo without highlighting any good reasons, just focusing on easy to hate on reasons.
I wouldn’t say that no. But they are being used to whip people up into a fury effectively with out sharing all the facts. That’s why the video is ridiculously biased. Because if you came at it from a balanced perspective most people aren’t irrational. Nintendos actions while shit, all largely make sense.
Yeah, thank you for your comment. I don’t know if I expressed myself the clearest when I type things that I struggle with getting what I mean into words sometimes.
This video has been doing the rounds but if I remember correctly they are overly negative and are obviously not the target for Nintendo and have no intention of buying the Switch even before all the controversy.
Ive been a nintendo fan my entire childhood and early adult life. I would say i am (at least clasically) nintendos target audience. I agree with the sentiments in the video. Nintendo is doing a lot of shitty consumer hostile things and people forking up ever increasing prices for decade old games will only validate their business practices and quality will further decay (like the games industry in general). That is essentially what he is saying. I will not buy the switch 2 (this video did not change my stance either way)
Granted his overly negative rant was a bit tiresome, it felt like he was impersonating the angry nintendo nerd without the comedy. But that just feels like any other yt video rant these days
I agree with the overall negativity Nintendo has brought upon themselves but videos like this are, like you say, tiresome and disingenuous from the creator.
I never bought a Switch. Thought about it, but never got around to it. I guess I’m just not the target audience.
Though now in thinking about it, I bet I can pick up a good condition used Switch on the cheap once this comes out. Maybe I’ll get the first gen Switch after all!
And that’s the only reason I’m even vaguely considering picking up a Switch 2 around launch.
That said, even with a gen 1 Switch, booting into the CFW is just enough of a pain that I don’t do it often. Gotta grab the shim for the rail, plug it into something that can deliver the payload… ugh.
I miss the days of Wii and PSP homebrew. No online shit to get banned from, no special booting techniques. 3DS cfw came pretty close in terms of ease of use.
That said, being able to pirate games directly from the 3DS and Switch was a big step up from having to transfer files over to the memory card (PSP) or effectively needing a dedicated external HDD/partition (Wii). Even if it was slow as hell and couldn’t use my full internet speed.
I haven’t decided yet, because it’s not available yet. Once it’s available, I’ll check reviews and whatnot to decide whether to purchase it. Maybe I will, maybe I won’t, it depends on a bunch of factors.
Yeah, Nintendo sucks right in the legal department. But whether I buy their products has less to do with their legal department and more to do with the quality of the product.
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I’m getting one on launch. Love my OG switch and got many cherished hours of gaming out of it.
Didn’t plan to buy one, before the S2 was announced.
The number of anti consumer actions they take is amazing. They still hate YouTube. Instead of making their games not suck, they sue anyone who dares to try. They have a handful of console exclusive that even interest me, everything else I’ll get in Steam and it’ll play better, have cloud save, and a refund policy.
I bought a NES in the 80s because it was the most amazing, magical thing. Now I’m at the point of ‘Fuck Nintendo, let it fall’
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“I did it. Nintendo is surely finished. This will definitely work.”
OK. Never bought anything from Nintendo, so that’s not a great sacrifice.
Or, get this - if you want a switch 2, buy a switch 2 if you can afford it.
Done. Can’t afford one anyways.
can afford, absolutely no buy
Me, not being a little baby man, am going to buy one at some point because I want to play the Zeldas and the Marios and no one is gonna keep me from enjoying those games when they come out—and I’m still gonna emulate on my Retroid ‘cause fuck Big Gaming.
Fuck big gaming but you’ll still hand them money and emulate?
Yes
Wasn’t going to, it’s such a dumb purchase unless you have money lying around.
Completely agree. They burnt all their goodwill in the past few years. I have no interest in the company and the products.
That’s exactly it. They burned all their goodwill seriously, and continue to do so.
Why? The first Switch is pretty fantastic for my use case, which is casual gaming w/ my kids, their friends, and my nephews/nieces.
I also have a Steam Deck and most of my gaming money goes to PC games. But I do like the Zelda series, so I’ll buy a handful of games now and then for the Switch (usually as gifts to my kids for X-mas or whatever to kill two birds w/ one stone).
Mainly the price of games and the other price gouging tactics they’re trying out
Sure, if it’s not a good value for you, then don’t buy it. Console games have never been cheap, and consoles have generally been affordable (not cheap).
IMO, the prices aren’t outlandish when you take inflation into account. Here’s an article that goes over it:
And this page lists game prices:
So generally a downward trend. The Switch 2’s expected prices are a bit of a correction to $80-90, but still pretty much in line with recent consoles.
Here’s the image for reference:
No, I get it. You really don’t need to post an entire breakdown when I can read it on any gaming site. These never seem to take into account that manufacturing games has become much cheaper or that the majority of games are sold digitally which have negligible costs compared to physical. Maybe I’m wrong about that but at the end of the day we are still getting used to $70 when it comes to modern consoles—so Nintendo thinking their games are worth more than that on top of being a generation behind? It’s a shitty look, honestly, especially combined with the other crap that’s come out about pricing since the reveal
You might be right, but basically everyone is expecting there to be significant features of MKW which are as yet unannounced but will be featured in the upcoming Nintendo direct which is focused on that game specifically.
There is certainly an argument to be made about DLC cost being included upfront (and Zelda was already $90 on Switch 1 including the DLC) to avoid splitting up the player base for a game with an online focus. That might not be what they’re doing, but my point is there are things they could do to justify the price increase for many players.
They also might just do nothing more than what’s already been announced, but I doubt it because why then would they do another reveal later?
Sure, the physical distribution is cheaper, but the development is way more expensive. That’s largely offset by more sales, hence the gradually reducing real price of games.
Yeah, it’s never fun seeing prices go up, but they tend to stay pretty flat during a console generation. So at the start, they’re making more than at the end, when inflation has chipped away at the value they’re getting per sale.
I’m not saying it’s “good” or anything, I also prefer cheaper games, just that it’s understandable when looking at pricing history compared to inflation.
Shitty hardware, stick drift that they port to the new console, insane prices, they shoce dlc’s into kuds faces until they make their parents buy it…
WHY ARE WE YELLING?
I fucking hate all caps titles.
i fucking hate all caps
I disabled my caps lock button, and my life got so much better.
🧢 ?
Not all caps
WHY IS YOUR USERNAME YELLING?!
I wasn’t hugged enough as a child
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THE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW THAT NINTENDO IS WORSE THAN IF POL POT AND MING THE MERCILESS STARTED A KISS TRIBUTE BAND WITH POL POT PLAYING THE SAXOPHONE.
WOULDN’T THAT KIND OF DEPEND ON WHAT MING THE MERCILESS WAS PLAYING? YOU GOTTA GET SOME STRINGS IN THERE TO BE A PROPER KISS TRIBUTE BAND, SO IF HE WHIPPED OUT AN ELECTRIC MANDOLIN OR SOMETHING, I MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN LISTENING TO WHAT THEY COME UP WITH. I’D EVEN TAKE A BANJO.
I’M NOT SUPPORTING EITHER PERSON (FAKE OR REAL) IN ANY WAY, JUST BEING HONEST.
They didn’t even fix the annoying joystick issues.
What’s the TLDW?
Loud person who makes their entire personality disliking Nintendo tells you not to buy Nintendo without highlighting any good reasons, just focusing on easy to hate on reasons.
are… are ‘‘easy to hate reasons’’ somehow inherently ‘‘not good reasons’’?
I wouldn’t say that no. But they are being used to whip people up into a fury effectively with out sharing all the facts. That’s why the video is ridiculously biased. Because if you came at it from a balanced perspective most people aren’t irrational. Nintendos actions while shit, all largely make sense.
Ah, fair enough.
Yeah, thank you for your comment. I don’t know if I expressed myself the clearest when I type things that I struggle with getting what I mean into words sometimes.
That’s just the human condition, but I think you did a good job.
Nintendo bad, so don’t support Nintendo.
That’s about it. I didn’t finish it either, but I heard the rant and figured I wasn’t missing much by not finishing.
Loud man thinks prices rising over time is evil, not inflation.
This video has been doing the rounds but if I remember correctly they are overly negative and are obviously not the target for Nintendo and have no intention of buying the Switch even before all the controversy.
Ive been a nintendo fan my entire childhood and early adult life. I would say i am (at least clasically) nintendos target audience. I agree with the sentiments in the video. Nintendo is doing a lot of shitty consumer hostile things and people forking up ever increasing prices for decade old games will only validate their business practices and quality will further decay (like the games industry in general). That is essentially what he is saying. I will not buy the switch 2 (this video did not change my stance either way)
Granted his overly negative rant was a bit tiresome, it felt like he was impersonating the angry nintendo nerd without the comedy. But that just feels like any other yt video rant these days
But most of these “consumer hostile” things aren’t really “consumer hostile” though. They’re just “not giving away stuff for free”.
By that reasoning, literally everything that requires the consumer to pay is “consumer hostile”.
What are these “consumer hostile” things specifically?
I agree with the overall negativity Nintendo has brought upon themselves but videos like this are, like you say, tiresome and disingenuous from the creator.
I mean, my Switch works, and if Microsoft won’t port the Xbox UI to Windows handhelds, then I’ll buy a Steam Deck.
I won’t. And not even due to the bad PR.
I never bought a Switch. Thought about it, but never got around to it. I guess I’m just not the target audience.
Though now in thinking about it, I bet I can pick up a good condition used Switch on the cheap once this comes out. Maybe I’ll get the first gen Switch after all!
First gen’s are hard to find cheap due to how easily exploited they are.
And that’s the only reason I’m even vaguely considering picking up a Switch 2 around launch.
That said, even with a gen 1 Switch, booting into the CFW is just enough of a pain that I don’t do it often. Gotta grab the shim for the rail, plug it into something that can deliver the payload… ugh.
I miss the days of Wii and PSP homebrew. No online shit to get banned from, no special booting techniques. 3DS cfw came pretty close in terms of ease of use.
That said, being able to pirate games directly from the 3DS and Switch was a big step up from having to transfer files over to the memory card (PSP) or effectively needing a dedicated external HDD/partition (Wii). Even if it was slow as hell and couldn’t use my full internet speed.
Don’t forget Vita. Thing was king of being opened up in my opinion.
By first gen I meant not a switch 2. I’m not too particular about which version or revision.
I bought a Switch back in the day. Beat BotW and that was fun. Barely touched it since.
Yeah, the price point would have to be low enough to be worth it for the few console specific titles that’d interest me.
I haven’t decided yet, because it’s not available yet. Once it’s available, I’ll check reviews and whatnot to decide whether to purchase it. Maybe I will, maybe I won’t, it depends on a bunch of factors.
Yeah, Nintendo sucks right in the legal department. But whether I buy their products has less to do with their legal department and more to do with the quality of the product.
lol, ok. /s