I know when the PS5/Xbox Series X/S came out they were referred to as “next generation” while the previous consoles were “current generation” when talking about games that were released on both consoles, for example NBA 2K.
I can see why you’re confused and I agree that enough time has passed that we can start calling the PS5/ Xbox series X/S current generation.
Naturally. Rockstar likes to resell their titles no less than Bethesda. They will sell it to you on PS5 and series x/s, then again on PS6 and whatever Xbox will be around. Then probably Nintendo platform, finally PC.
This way they maximize the amount of times some people will buy the same game, each time with minimal quality upgrade.
Same as their previous titles. It’s not that they didn’t learn. They have the numbers and know very well what they’re doing.
imo buying a copy for one platform should entitle to play on every platform it is released on. The crucial aspects of the work are the same. adapting to different hardwares and making controls for gamepads and mouse and keyboard only plays a small part in the total effort. Also you can play with a controller on pc in most cross platform games.
Because a PC can do everything a console can do, but way better, plus way more, lol
Consoles are completely redundant, you can get a better performing PC for the same price or lower if you wait for sales (especially when you consider the $60-120/year premium you have to pay to play console games online, Microsoft & Sony sell consoles at a loss because they know they’ll suck way more money out of you from subscriptions & other “fees” you experience from console)
Consoles are just shit value, you can’t use them for anything other than what, gaming and TV? And their specs are worth less than just buying similar parts separately and putting them together. So why would I spend up to $500 plus $80 every year on a shitty console just to play a new game because of artificial exclusives that will come to PC anyways? Assuming you use your PS5 or Xbox Series X or whatever for 6-7 years, that’s $1000 down the drain. And then after that you’ll still have to spend a few hundred on a laptop or PC or whatever to, you know, do your job or uni or whatever, because your console that costs over $500 can’t do any of that.
The one thing consoles have had for a long time over PC is physical disks. Fuck what I wouldnt do to have non-steam required disks. Btw I know itd be slow I dont care.
I didn’t know console games had subscription costs in ways the PC equivalents don’t. I’m a PC gamer myself, and wouldn’t buy a console precisely because it’s a unitasker. But the one task it does do well is couch gaming with a controller, and that’s not how I’d use a PC. Fair, if that’s someone’s thing, but I would just think a console was better for that usecase.
There’s not really anything that makes using your PC in the same way inconvenient, you can connect it to your TV and wirelessly connect controllers, even more conveniently. Although switching between games or using different apps while doing so means you’d have to have a m&kb beside you I think, so if you’re playing with friends it might be less convenient (personally I only use controller on games that are unplayable on M&KB though, mainly emulated games)
If you only play that particular game with a controller, sure. My point was that if you’re a controller player, I’d think you’d have a better time on a console, since they and their games are made for it. Mouse and keyboard controls with key remapping are the biggest reason I play on PC.
Some people i used to play battlefield with played infantry and ground vehicles with mouse and keyboard but used a controller for planes and helicopters.
I could also see controllers to be nicer for racing games and simiiar considerations. At the end of the day even a pure controller player still needs a PC for non gaming. So might as well have one device for everything.
As much as I theoretically agree, I can immediately think of two problems:
The storefronts would have to communicate
It’s against their own interest to do this. Imagine you buy all your games on Steam because of the sales (although the creators of the game of course decide the prices, but still) and then play them on your Xbox. No profit at all for Microsoft, yet they’re the ones providing all the additional services like the actual game hosting, friends system, etc. It’s not much by any means, but it does add up. The money all goes to Valve. You could even buy the games via the Steam mobile app if you don’t even own a PC. Also, even if they were theoretically fine with this, even coordinating it would be a pain. Since you could put a game on the Google Play Store, the App Store, hell maybe even F-Droid, Epic Games, GoG, Steam, the Xbox Store, and the Play Station store, and I am absolutely certain I forgot multiple other options, all of them would need to be able to communicate and decide on if you actually own the game. This would be a logistical and technical nightmare.
Companies would just sell mildly different versions and claim it’s a new game
You know how for example Undertale has a slightly special Nintendo Switch version where there’s… I can’t even remember, but I think it’s an additional boss. That’s just something small and cute, but let’s go with the GTA example. I have played about five hours of 5 and dropped it, so excuse me if this isn’t the best theoretical example, but let’s say the PS5 and Series X/S get the base game. Then the PS6 and new Xbox get maybe five additional cars and the game they’re selling is GTA 6 Expanded. Afterwards on switch (although by that time Nintendo’s new console would’ve released) you get blue and red weapon skins or whatever and it’s GTA 6 Switched Up. And then finally on PC you get the GTA 6 Ultimate Edition with expanded settings, better graphics, and maybe five more cars on top of those from GTA 6 Expanded. These are all technically not the same game, so you would not be able to claim them. Sure, you could argue they’re similar, but where is the exact line? That’s quite impossible to figure out - is it a cheated rehash or a mediocre remaster? Who knows
Sure, but GTA 6 is 100% already working on PC. Not just because they develop the game on PC, or because they’re building on top of the RDR2 engine (which is already ported to PC), but because they planned to support PC from the beginning, and that type of engine work usually gets ironed out early during development or in pre-production.
I was just pointing out the flaw in your tire analogy though. TBH I’m not saying they should give free copies to people who bought it on other platforms. That’s unprecedented for giant publishers like this. But I am pissed that they’re delaying the PC version since you can be sure it’s a calculated plan to ensure PC gamers buy the game twice. They collected enough analytics and surveys to know that a significant amount of GTA5 PC gamers also own a next-gen console. It’s all very nefarious.
That’s not how game development using an engine works… RAGE likely compiles code for at minimum a majority of modern computer hardware with next to no tweaking, and probably the same with Xbox & PlayStation consoles.
Most game engines used on large projects generally are made to handle as much of a variety of hardware as possible with little to no changes in the code – if you make a game using Unreal Engine or Unity for example it will almost certainly be able to work on Xbox, Playstation, and most PCs just fine. Most of the performance optimization for different hardware can then be offloaded to the engine. It’s likely the same with RAGE.
I actually have experience porting games and engines to consoles. If it runs on a development PC (likely Windows), they have the build system and platform layer implemented, which is the hardest part. Porting the content is also an important step, but really only for consoles, which usually have limited memory and power.
Typically the only problem with “PC ports” today is when the game wasn’t designed around mouse/keyboard, or when the devs didn’t make an effort to optimize it on consumer specs (although nowadays console architecture isn’t too different from PCs so there are more optimizations that work across platforms). Another potential problem is when the game gets a lot of last minute hacks to fix bugs in order to ship on a console and those hacks don’t survive a platform transition, then the publisher just tells them to ship as is since there’s no certification process on PC. Basically, the problems are almost always logistical/business decisions due to a lazy/cheap publisher.
None of that is going to apply to this game. Rockstar has always intended to ship and fully support PC from the beginning. They had the technology, the talent, the incentive, and the time to do it. The most realistic explanation (IMO) for the PC delay is that they’re trying to double-dip.
I could not care less. They seem to focus primarily on improving the graphics with every part of the series, while imo gameplay is much more important than graphics. Also, for the ridiculous price of one AAA title, one can buy a whole bunch of great indie games.
I just can’t get excited for gta anymore. I know some people are very excited and can’t wait, but can they keep the train going for two years (or probably 4)
I think the bigger issue is that the franchise is stuck in the USA, at the same locations, in the same gangsta American dream plot. I was hoping by they would branch out as there as so many other interesting places outside of the USA that are car focused that are dying to be explored. When I watched the trailer, I felt like I already played this game.
GTA is satire about American society. Because of Hollywood, TV, and English being the lingua franca of the world, this way they can reach a far bigger audience. You couldn’t do exactly the same game set in Helsinki because the world knows far less about Finnish stereotypes. Ninja Edit: Random thought about satirical games set in Finland: My Summer Car is kind of that game.
But they have explored London before. I think the UK would probably the best setting if you would.
I agree, London would be awesome. Anyone ever play The Getaway back on PS2? I genuinely enjoyed that game a lot. GTA but with cockney accents/Guy Richie, the game.
There are plenty of over-the-top British stereotypes they could do that the rest of the world would also appreciate. Royalty, Jacob Rees-Mogg/Boris Johnson style politicians, Brexit craziness, chavs, Geordie Shore, empire nostalgia.
London is the only city from their game history they haven’t revisited. Granted, it is the only real location they have used so likely that is a big reason they never will. But a UK-based game would be awesome.
They probably shouldn’t have named it London in hindsight. But back then of course they probably didn’t know they were going to revisit Liberty City/Vice City/San Andreas a couple of times.
I was thinking more Singapore, Tokyo or for something very different like Ho Chi Minh(Saigon) or similar. GTA, but in a radically different type of city not just jungle and villages.
It has a fantastic Single Player story line that is fairly worth the play through even today.
I think I tried the online game mode once and didnt see a point.
My experience is with the PS3 launch version, but I’m assuming you can still just play it offline for story. Please let me know if I’m wrong.
PS is always “millions of iterations of current, next, last, the previous, the one before that and the one after that” gen. I believe they have learned.
Unless it’s either PS5 or Xbox exclusive (not both), I don’t think that’s true. Sony and Microsoft wouldn’t collude to prevent launch on PC. That’s extremely illegal, even for companies that are masters of dodging antitrust laws.
The most realistic explanation (IMO) is that Rockstar did their research and found that most PC players also own a console, and will very likely buy the game twice in the long run.
Or if we’re being charitable, maybe the game needs more optimization work before it can run well on the Steam deck, and they want that working before launching on PC.
With GTAV, the original release was 2013, the next gen was 2014 and PC 2015 so I forsee it being the same and being even later.
The upside was that the PC port was really good at release and I’m pretty indifferent to if I pick this game up in 2030 when it’s actually a good value on PC.
I bet its because console players are far more likely to dump their life savings into Shark Cards 2.0 in massive fits of hysterical FOMO, than PC players are.
Is this type of comment helpful for you? Are people supposed to follow-up with some comment about PC players are sheep and will be buy the game for consoles and then buy it PC when it releases there?
I never said they didnt. But PC can be modded and exploited much easier than consoles can, Which can impact their sales of blatant bullshit ripoff micro transactions.
Can impact, but likely not a huge one. Just like how most people playing Skyrim are playing without mods, most people playing GTA games aren’t going to bother with mods and modded servers.
Just like how most people playing Skyrim are playing without mods
Doubt.
Edit to expand: I honestly don’t think I would’ve played it if it wasn’t for mods. The interface is so blatantly consoley and clunky that every action takes way more effort than it needs to.
“Hyperbole” is just a euphemism for strawman. No one said PC players don’t buy shark cards. You made their argument look ridiculous by misrepresenting what they said. That isn’t a good faith argument to begin with.
The likelyhood of a console player buying MTX and a pc player buying MTX is IMO more likely biased towards console.
There certainly are whales on all platforms but mobile doesnt count right now.
Lol, every pc gamer I’ve ever encountered has to have the latest video card due to FOMO. The thought of only getting 59 FPS keeps them up at night, keeps them from playing the games they’ve already paid for.
In the past first party exclusives were the incentive for me to get a console regardless of Rockstar titles, and they just don’t have the draw they used to with them getting ported to the PC so I’m passing on console this Gen. So can’t even double dip like they want me too because I wouldn’t drop hundreds to play one game.
it’s not necessarily the architecture that’s the problem it’s just optimizations as you only have set hardware to optimize for on console as compared to pc
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I know when the PS5/Xbox Series X/S came out they were referred to as “next generation” while the previous consoles were “current generation” when talking about games that were released on both consoles, for example NBA 2K.
I can see why you’re confused and I agree that enough time has passed that we can start calling the PS5/ Xbox series X/S current generation.
I think that calling them next gen was okay up to the point that they became readily available.
Naturally. Rockstar likes to resell their titles no less than Bethesda. They will sell it to you on PS5 and series x/s, then again on PS6 and whatever Xbox will be around. Then probably Nintendo platform, finally PC.
This way they maximize the amount of times some people will buy the same game, each time with minimal quality upgrade.
Same as their previous titles. It’s not that they didn’t learn. They have the numbers and know very well what they’re doing.
And pc always last because they can only sell it to them once and they’ll have it until steam/epic dies.
imo buying a copy for one platform should entitle to play on every platform it is released on. The crucial aspects of the work are the same. adapting to different hardwares and making controls for gamepads and mouse and keyboard only plays a small part in the total effort. Also you can play with a controller on pc in most cross platform games.
Yeah, but why would you want to? If you’re going to play with a controller, why not just play on console?
Because a PC can do everything a console can do, but way better, plus way more, lol
Consoles are completely redundant, you can get a better performing PC for the same price or lower if you wait for sales (especially when you consider the $60-120/year premium you have to pay to play console games online, Microsoft & Sony sell consoles at a loss because they know they’ll suck way more money out of you from subscriptions & other “fees” you experience from console)
Consoles are just shit value, you can’t use them for anything other than what, gaming and TV? And their specs are worth less than just buying similar parts separately and putting them together. So why would I spend up to $500 plus $80 every year on a shitty console just to play a new game because of artificial exclusives that will come to PC anyways? Assuming you use your PS5 or Xbox Series X or whatever for 6-7 years, that’s $1000 down the drain. And then after that you’ll still have to spend a few hundred on a laptop or PC or whatever to, you know, do your job or uni or whatever, because your console that costs over $500 can’t do any of that.
The one thing consoles have had for a long time over PC is physical disks. Fuck what I wouldnt do to have non-steam required disks. Btw I know itd be slow I dont care.
I’m sure you could burn a game onto a CD/DVD, although I’m not sure there’s any benefit to doing that compared to just storing it on an HDD…
Sure, but itd still be nice to have the option ya know.
I didn’t know console games had subscription costs in ways the PC equivalents don’t. I’m a PC gamer myself, and wouldn’t buy a console precisely because it’s a unitasker. But the one task it does do well is couch gaming with a controller, and that’s not how I’d use a PC. Fair, if that’s someone’s thing, but I would just think a console was better for that usecase.
There’s not really anything that makes using your PC in the same way inconvenient, you can connect it to your TV and wirelessly connect controllers, even more conveniently. Although switching between games or using different apps while doing so means you’d have to have a m&kb beside you I think, so if you’re playing with friends it might be less convenient (personally I only use controller on games that are unplayable on M&KB though, mainly emulated games)
Because you would need to buy an extra console.
If you only play that particular game with a controller, sure. My point was that if you’re a controller player, I’d think you’d have a better time on a console, since they and their games are made for it. Mouse and keyboard controls with key remapping are the biggest reason I play on PC.
There is also hybrids.
Some people i used to play battlefield with played infantry and ground vehicles with mouse and keyboard but used a controller for planes and helicopters.
I could also see controllers to be nicer for racing games and simiiar considerations. At the end of the day even a pure controller player still needs a PC for non gaming. So might as well have one device for everything.
As much as I theoretically agree, I can immediately think of two problems:
It’s against their own interest to do this. Imagine you buy all your games on Steam because of the sales (although the creators of the game of course decide the prices, but still) and then play them on your Xbox. No profit at all for Microsoft, yet they’re the ones providing all the additional services like the actual game hosting, friends system, etc. It’s not much by any means, but it does add up. The money all goes to Valve. You could even buy the games via the Steam mobile app if you don’t even own a PC. Also, even if they were theoretically fine with this, even coordinating it would be a pain. Since you could put a game on the Google Play Store, the App Store, hell maybe even F-Droid, Epic Games, GoG, Steam, the Xbox Store, and the Play Station store, and I am absolutely certain I forgot multiple other options, all of them would need to be able to communicate and decide on if you actually own the game. This would be a logistical and technical nightmare.
You know how for example Undertale has a slightly special Nintendo Switch version where there’s… I can’t even remember, but I think it’s an additional boss. That’s just something small and cute, but let’s go with the GTA example. I have played about five hours of 5 and dropped it, so excuse me if this isn’t the best theoretical example, but let’s say the PS5 and Series X/S get the base game. Then the PS6 and new Xbox get maybe five additional cars and the game they’re selling is GTA 6 Expanded. Afterwards on switch (although by that time Nintendo’s new console would’ve released) you get blue and red weapon skins or whatever and it’s GTA 6 Switched Up. And then finally on PC you get the GTA 6 Ultimate Edition with expanded settings, better graphics, and maybe five more cars on top of those from GTA 6 Expanded. These are all technically not the same game, so you would not be able to claim them. Sure, you could argue they’re similar, but where is the exact line? That’s quite impossible to figure out - is it a cheated rehash or a mediocre remaster? Who knows
When I buy a new set of tires for my truck, I don’t get a free set of tires for my car as well.
Tires cost materials and labor to manufacture, but digital games cost nothing to copy.
True, but you create a game for system A, it’s not going to work with system B or C, without additional work required.
Sure, but GTA 6 is 100% already working on PC. Not just because they develop the game on PC, or because they’re building on top of the RDR2 engine (which is already ported to PC), but because they planned to support PC from the beginning, and that type of engine work usually gets ironed out early during development or in pre-production.
I was just pointing out the flaw in your tire analogy though. TBH I’m not saying they should give free copies to people who bought it on other platforms. That’s unprecedented for giant publishers like this. But I am pissed that they’re delaying the PC version since you can be sure it’s a calculated plan to ensure PC gamers buy the game twice. They collected enough analytics and surveys to know that a significant amount of GTA5 PC gamers also own a next-gen console. It’s all very nefarious.
It runs on their specific hardware under specific situations, not any PC. I am just pointing out the flaw in your en-tire logic.
That’s not how game development using an engine works… RAGE likely compiles code for at minimum a majority of modern computer hardware with next to no tweaking, and probably the same with Xbox & PlayStation consoles.
Most game engines used on large projects generally are made to handle as much of a variety of hardware as possible with little to no changes in the code – if you make a game using Unreal Engine or Unity for example it will almost certainly be able to work on Xbox, Playstation, and most PCs just fine. Most of the performance optimization for different hardware can then be offloaded to the engine. It’s likely the same with RAGE.
I actually have experience porting games and engines to consoles. If it runs on a development PC (likely Windows), they have the build system and platform layer implemented, which is the hardest part. Porting the content is also an important step, but really only for consoles, which usually have limited memory and power.
Typically the only problem with “PC ports” today is when the game wasn’t designed around mouse/keyboard, or when the devs didn’t make an effort to optimize it on consumer specs (although nowadays console architecture isn’t too different from PCs so there are more optimizations that work across platforms). Another potential problem is when the game gets a lot of last minute hacks to fix bugs in order to ship on a console and those hacks don’t survive a platform transition, then the publisher just tells them to ship as is since there’s no certification process on PC. Basically, the problems are almost always logistical/business decisions due to a lazy/cheap publisher.
None of that is going to apply to this game. Rockstar has always intended to ship and fully support PC from the beginning. They had the technology, the talent, the incentive, and the time to do it. The most realistic explanation (IMO) for the PC delay is that they’re trying to double-dip.
Valve’s steamplay already gives you access to win/mac/linux versions with one purchase so its not like its unheard of.
no but if you wanted you could put your tires on your car
Yes, all tires are interchangeable, I forgot.
Maybe with the help of an angle grinder, but sure you could get those wheels on there if you wanted to.
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So? Who gives a shit lol
Yeah if I ever were to play this game, it’d probably be a long time after release and the inevitable slew of bug fixes etc
Mark my words as the real JC Denton, this game will be bad
Except for the online.
That will be bad and full of microtransactions
I’m sure they spent the last ten years figuring out how to put mtx into gta singleplayer. It wouldn’t be that hard.
I could not care less. They seem to focus primarily on improving the graphics with every part of the series, while imo gameplay is much more important than graphics. Also, for the ridiculous price of one AAA title, one can buy a whole bunch of great indie games.
It looks pretty mid anyway, unless they announce dedi servers and rp support I really don’t care about rockstars played out boomer ass writing
I just can’t get excited for gta anymore. I know some people are very excited and can’t wait, but can they keep the train going for two years (or probably 4)
I think the bigger issue is that the franchise is stuck in the USA, at the same locations, in the same gangsta American dream plot. I was hoping by they would branch out as there as so many other interesting places outside of the USA that are car focused that are dying to be explored. When I watched the trailer, I felt like I already played this game.
GTA is satire about American society. Because of Hollywood, TV, and English being the lingua franca of the world, this way they can reach a far bigger audience. You couldn’t do exactly the same game set in Helsinki because the world knows far less about Finnish stereotypes. Ninja Edit: Random thought about satirical games set in Finland: My Summer Car is kind of that game.
But they have explored London before. I think the UK would probably the best setting if you would.
I agree, London would be awesome. Anyone ever play The Getaway back on PS2? I genuinely enjoyed that game a lot. GTA but with cockney accents/Guy Richie, the game.
There are plenty of over-the-top British stereotypes they could do that the rest of the world would also appreciate. Royalty, Jacob Rees-Mogg/Boris Johnson style politicians, Brexit craziness, chavs, Geordie Shore, empire nostalgia.
London is the only city from their game history they haven’t revisited. Granted, it is the only real location they have used so likely that is a big reason they never will. But a UK-based game would be awesome.
They probably shouldn’t have named it London in hindsight. But back then of course they probably didn’t know they were going to revisit Liberty City/Vice City/San Andreas a couple of times.
Far Cry covers the impoverished/autocratic nations.
Including Montana.
I was thinking more Singapore, Tokyo or for something very different like Ho Chi Minh(Saigon) or similar. GTA, but in a radically different type of city not just jungle and villages.
I’d like to suggest Sleeping Dogs 👍
Whatever I still haven’t played 5 🤷♀️
It has a fantastic Single Player story line that is fairly worth the play through even today. I think I tried the online game mode once and didnt see a point. My experience is with the PS3 launch version, but I’m assuming you can still just play it offline for story. Please let me know if I’m wrong.
Cool. Then I’ll pirate it at lauch.
Hope it will be good, the game will have to last 3 console generations anyway.
I’m waiting for the PS7 release.
PC is always current gen. When will they learn?
PS is always “millions of iterations of current, next, last, the previous, the one before that and the one after that” gen. I believe they have learned.
The PC version will come out with the PS6/Xbox whatever ports come out. Rockstar has figured out exactly how to milk the most sales out of their games
Not just sales. Rockstar is getting paid to launch exclusively on consoles.
Unless it’s either PS5 or Xbox exclusive (not both), I don’t think that’s true. Sony and Microsoft wouldn’t collude to prevent launch on PC. That’s extremely illegal, even for companies that are masters of dodging antitrust laws.
The most realistic explanation (IMO) is that Rockstar did their research and found that most PC players also own a console, and will very likely buy the game twice in the long run.
Or if we’re being charitable, maybe the game needs more optimization work before it can run well on the Steam deck, and they want that working before launching on PC.
By both consoles? How would that make any sense?
With GTAV, the original release was 2013, the next gen was 2014 and PC 2015 so I forsee it being the same and being even later.
The upside was that the PC port was really good at release and I’m pretty indifferent to if I pick this game up in 2030 when it’s actually a good value on PC.
Yeah I’ll take a delayed PC port over a broken one. It sucks but I’d rather wait
According to the Microsoft leaks, that would be 2028.
Xbox 2 maybe
The fifth Xbox being called Xbox Two is such a Microsoft move
My prediction is Xbox Series 360 or they might skip that and call it the Xbox Series One.
I bet its because console players are far more likely to dump their life savings into Shark Cards 2.0 in massive fits of hysterical FOMO, than PC players are.
Is this type of comment helpful for you? Are people supposed to follow-up with some comment about PC players are sheep and will be buy the game for consoles and then buy it PC when it releases there?
This platform war nonsense is tiring.
my friend, you need to have a nice refreshing bowl of chill the fuck out.
Cause you are literally just inventing narratives to be pissed about.
Just calling out nonsense when I see it.
Think of your family and calm down and stop getting irrationally angry at your own imagination
It’s OK if someone disagrees with you on the internet, you know. Your world isn’t going to end, haha.
Says the guy raging and inventing narratives to be angry at.
You seem just as angry as I am? Why else would you still be responding? Just downvote me and move on.
GTA5 PC players usually play on modded servers that don’t use shark cards. I think that’s what they meant.
Yeah, I’m unconvinced that PC players don’t purchase micro-transactions.
I never said they didnt. But PC can be modded and exploited much easier than consoles can, Which can impact their sales of blatant bullshit ripoff micro transactions.
Can impact, but likely not a huge one. Just like how most people playing Skyrim are playing without mods, most people playing GTA games aren’t going to bother with mods and modded servers.
I’d rather mod myself game money than spend on MTX with T2.
And the majority of minimal tech literate gamers are nearly the same.
Doubt.
Edit to expand: I honestly don’t think I would’ve played it if it wasn’t for mods. The interface is so blatantly consoley and clunky that every action takes way more effort than it needs to.
Good thing no one said that
Yes, my post was hyperbole, I should have been more accurate.
You didn’t address the topic though, are you just here to score points?
“Hyperbole” is just a euphemism for strawman. No one said PC players don’t buy shark cards. You made their argument look ridiculous by misrepresenting what they said. That isn’t a good faith argument to begin with.
…isn’t an example what I would consider a “good faith argument” to begin with, but I do apologize if my responses come off as blunt.
The likelyhood of a console player buying MTX and a pc player buying MTX is IMO more likely biased towards console.
There certainly are whales on all platforms but mobile doesnt count right now.
Why not? It’s the biggest market.
In this argument…
Mobile eclipses probably all platforms combined.
Lol, every pc gamer I’ve ever encountered has to have the latest video card due to FOMO. The thought of only getting 59 FPS keeps them up at night, keeps them from playing the games they’ve already paid for.
Wow, I’m amazed that you’ve met literally every PC gamer on the planet.
how many years did that take?
actually all it took was one discord call. they all answered
Obviously not, since I have no recallection of this, and have zero interest in the latest overpriced bullshit video cards.
well, we didnt talk to random idiots so maybe thats why
So what’s the truth
his username. look at it
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What does PC piracy have to do with console sales?
Some PC sales are better than none.
I’m not buying a console for this game. Pc gaming has gotten a lot bigger, I’d be surprised if they skipped it.
In the past first party exclusives were the incentive for me to get a console regardless of Rockstar titles, and they just don’t have the draw they used to with them getting ported to the PC so I’m passing on console this Gen. So can’t even double dip like they want me too because I wouldn’t drop hundreds to play one game.
And unlike when GTA5 came out, now the XBox and PlayStation have the same CPU architecture as PC.
Still I wont be surprised since they’ve delayed PC since GTA3, but its still annoying
Yeah RDR2 was released on PC later even though PS4 and XBO were thr same architecture so I am not hopeful.
it’s not necessarily the architecture that’s the problem it’s just optimizations as you only have set hardware to optimize for on console as compared to pc