Over 2024, Apex Legends showed the biggest drop in overall Steam concurrent players the game has ever seen. From a high of 470,696 in February 2024 to 140,830
I have around a thousand hours in apex and i uninstalled after not playing the past few months. The linux shit was lame but also I just don’t like the changes to the battlepass and the changes to the crafters and sheilds. Love the way the game played a few seasons ago, shame really.
I wish it was considered normal for games like this to die out. Trying to maintain your audience with new content every few months is unsustainable. Ideally these games would release with the content the designers intended, no more and no less, and they would slowly lose their less dedicated players.
That way the more dedicated players aren’t frustrated by having to keep up with a rapidly changing game, and can just get better in peace. I would guess this wouldn’t be profitable for a free to play game with micro-transactions. But, I have a crazy idea. Just charge for the game up front.
it was normal to have a point when your game dies out and you have to reinvest in designing the sequel version of it, or a spinoff. nowadays companies keep the same husk of a game running until the last sucker online stops dropping dollars for cosmetics.
Doing post release content can be good. It gives the devs a chance to do something after they are more familiar with the tools and what content players prefer.
I feel there is a fundamental difference between games like Dwarf Fortress or survival games or even open world story-driven games getting new content though that allows players to explore different options when replaying the game and games like this where the game play loop is inherently short and people are somewhat forced to do the ‘optimal strategy’ whatever that happens to be at the time.
Even in a shooter, you can make maps that encourage different play styles or have different interactive elements that can change the map. Not all of those may exist at launch, or more informed ideas can be used.
Well, sure, but there are limits. In e.g. a game like Dwarf Fortress you could probably add hundreds of different production chains and professions without running into too much trouble of individual players keeping track and using all of them. If you added maps each requiring one of dozens of different tactics or strategies to a multiplayer shooter it wouldn’t feel like a single game any more and would probably just splinter the community into groups where each just plays one or a few of those maps.
Sure, but you can add like a handful of maps and weapons, to supplement the game with what it feels like it’s missing, without having a plan to support the game with new stuff for years.
nearly daily Apex player moving to Linux full time again now that many more games work with it (knowing Apex no longer works). It will suck, but fuck microsoft and good riddance EA.
Even before then, people were up in arms about several changes.
Me and one friend used to play regularly, but they just straight up removed duos for almost a year. Trying to integrate a random third player into our teamwork just didn’t work, so we stopped playing.
By the time they added duos back, we’d lost interest.
They made several changes like that, and I’m fairly certain hundreds of thousands of players felt burned in similar ways. You can’t just “temporarily” remove the reason your players stick around, and expect them to stick around.
Marvel Rivals blocks console and PC from playing together. Specifically because console has such a huge advantage with how gimped their controls are, and with the fact that they enable literal developer sanctioned cheats to help people have fun. Then there are keyboard + mouse adapters and you get the aiming of a mouse with a sanctioned aimbot.
Actually this is wrong cross play is enabled by default and the game will even warn you that you’ll have a harder time finding console only gamers to play with.
From what I understand this is more about controllers being so bad for this kind of game that console developers regularly build in cheats like aim-bots officially, so why would it help if you connect a controller on your PC?
Whenever this happens, people attribute it to some change or another, but I’m pretty sure it’s basically just inevitable. If the company’s income stream didn’t depend on an ever-present player base, I’d even say it’s normal and healthy.
that’s sad. The game has awesome movement unlike any other. But if they don’t innovate, they will fade into obscurity. The bean counters at EA have wreaked havoc upon a sick game.
Check out The Finals! It has a lot of similar movement abilities. The maps are designed with verticality and fast traversal in mind, so it may scratch that itch for you.
I exclusively played Apex because it was the only BR game my friends would play. I kind of always hated it personally, but I’m a fan of PUBG, so I’m not the average person.
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Great, now make Titanfall 3.
I seriously doubt they can make a game better than Titanfall 2 at this point
Then just rerelease Titanfall 2
With more maps and maybe a few new hero titans
Please don’t give EA more ideas to rip off their fan base
I have around a thousand hours in apex and i uninstalled after not playing the past few months. The linux shit was lame but also I just don’t like the changes to the battlepass and the changes to the crafters and sheilds. Love the way the game played a few seasons ago, shame really.
Good
I wish it was considered normal for games like this to die out. Trying to maintain your audience with new content every few months is unsustainable. Ideally these games would release with the content the designers intended, no more and no less, and they would slowly lose their less dedicated players.
That way the more dedicated players aren’t frustrated by having to keep up with a rapidly changing game, and can just get better in peace. I would guess this wouldn’t be profitable for a free to play game with micro-transactions. But, I have a crazy idea. Just charge for the game up front.
it was normal to have a point when your game dies out and you have to reinvest in designing the sequel version of it, or a spinoff. nowadays companies keep the same husk of a game running until the last sucker online stops dropping dollars for cosmetics.
Now they’re having issues because sequels are the same game, better engine, but less content, but the old version is still fine.
Doing post release content can be good. It gives the devs a chance to do something after they are more familiar with the tools and what content players prefer.
I feel there is a fundamental difference between games like Dwarf Fortress or survival games or even open world story-driven games getting new content though that allows players to explore different options when replaying the game and games like this where the game play loop is inherently short and people are somewhat forced to do the ‘optimal strategy’ whatever that happens to be at the time.
Even in a shooter, you can make maps that encourage different play styles or have different interactive elements that can change the map. Not all of those may exist at launch, or more informed ideas can be used.
Well, sure, but there are limits. In e.g. a game like Dwarf Fortress you could probably add hundreds of different production chains and professions without running into too much trouble of individual players keeping track and using all of them. If you added maps each requiring one of dozens of different tactics or strategies to a multiplayer shooter it wouldn’t feel like a single game any more and would probably just splinter the community into groups where each just plays one or a few of those maps.
Sure, but you can add like a handful of maps and weapons, to supplement the game with what it feels like it’s missing, without having a plan to support the game with new stuff for years.
Agreed. I refuse to let my kids play F2P nonsense, because it’s all cancer.
Blocking Linux probably didn’t help those numbers
My friends and I used to do weekly apex nights.
Then they blocked linux. My desktop runs fedora and my other friend ran a steam deck. Ended up moving to Helldivers and DRG.
We played Apex for years. Oh well.
How’s Helldivers on Fedora?
Works well! No crashes or anything.
I think I got more fps on windows but I haven’t really spent much time tweaking and I don’t have actual measurements so it could just be anecdotal.
EDIT: I use Proton + Steam to play.
nearly daily Apex player moving to Linux full time again now that many more games work with it (knowing Apex no longer works). It will suck, but fuck microsoft and good riddance EA.
I doubt it made much of a dent. I’m a Linux user for >15 years now.
Even before then, people were up in arms about several changes.
Me and one friend used to play regularly, but they just straight up removed duos for almost a year. Trying to integrate a random third player into our teamwork just didn’t work, so we stopped playing.
By the time they added duos back, we’d lost interest.
They made several changes like that, and I’m fairly certain hundreds of thousands of players felt burned in similar ways. You can’t just “temporarily” remove the reason your players stick around, and expect them to stick around.
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Marvel Rivals blocks console and PC from playing together. Specifically because console has such a huge advantage with how gimped their controls are, and with the fact that they enable literal developer sanctioned cheats to help people have fun. Then there are keyboard + mouse adapters and you get the aiming of a mouse with a sanctioned aimbot.
Actually this is wrong cross play is enabled by default and the game will even warn you that you’ll have a harder time finding console only gamers to play with.
No, only quickplay, which is everything goes. Competetive is blocked crossplay.
Edit: I know because we tried it with people on xboxes and it didn’t let them compete
Is there no controller support on PC? Or how does that work
From what I understand this is more about controllers being so bad for this kind of game that console developers regularly build in cheats like aim-bots officially, so why would it help if you connect a controller on your PC?
In Apex you get the same benefits on PC when you play with a controller.
With what marketshare lol. You overestimate how many people run linux / game on it.
Did they check between the couch cushions? That’s usually where I find the remote when I lose it.
Maybe they can move into Titanfall 3
Whenever this happens, people attribute it to some change or another, but I’m pretty sure it’s basically just inevitable. If the company’s income stream didn’t depend on an ever-present player base, I’d even say it’s normal and healthy.
They’re all hoping for Fortnite sort of longevity as a live service game.
What killed Apex for me was rampant cheating and a toxic player base. I have no idea what killed it for others.
Isn’t that basically all competitive games?
that’s sad. The game has awesome movement unlike any other. But if they don’t innovate, they will fade into obscurity. The bean counters at EA have wreaked havoc upon a sick game.
Check out The Finals! It has a lot of similar movement abilities. The maps are designed with verticality and fast traversal in mind, so it may scratch that itch for you.
I exclusively played Apex because it was the only BR game my friends would play. I kind of always hated it personally, but I’m a fan of PUBG, so I’m not the average person.