I was using Lenovo’s handheld a few weeks before release and was really impressed by the specs until I turned it on and it was windows and I made an audible laugh. They were saying I had no idea what I was talking about and how windows was the future of handheld gaming. Which made me laugh some more, guess who’s making a SteamOS handheld now?
Anything Microsoft built lately is dogshit. They turned Windows into a steaming pile of shit over the past 20 years. When you think it can’t get any worse, they somehow raise the bar on disappointment.
No doubt it will be loaded with a shit ton of tracking/telemetry to build new datasets and train LLMs. Mining data from kids/teenagers and building those ad profiles early on is key.
I just don’t get why they didn’t think of quickly porting the Xbox interface over to desktop Windows. Should have been an easy fix to make handheld gaming on Windows more appealing.
It’s a lot more than that. SteamOS isn’t just Steam Big Picture Mode. There’s some special sauce in there to capture the active window so that you never lose focus of the game window and such. If you just run a Windows machine set to boot into Steam Big Picture on startup, you’ll find lots of times that you have to break out a keyboard to Alt+Tab for a variety of reasons that SteamOS never encounters. And given the other problems Windows has introduced over the past decade, that’s the least of their problems now.
People think Xbox is shit at the moment. Making things more like xbox isnt received as positively as it used to be. When I was a windows user and I saw anything Xbox related come up I knew I was about to deal with some clunky bullshit that was not wanted and poorly implemented.
Get fucked. After all the shit I’ve seen them pulling with Windows 11 they’ll never get a dime out of me again. I’ll ride my win 10 until it’s out of support then switch to Linux. Fuck monopolies, and fuck enshittification for profit.
Steam already runs fine on Linux, you don’t need SteamOS to us the compatibility functionality, meaning anything you can play on the steamdeck already works on a Linux pc.
Playing modern Windows games on Linux and SteamOS is done using Wine and Proton. Wine is available on almost every Linux distro and Proton comes* with Steam.
*You can use Proton outside of Steam but it’s quite hacky and not really needed.
I’m sure on the game specs on the store it says steam will no longer support win 10 in jan 2025. Unless i misread and it’s it’ll only support win 10 and above.
Maybe you are confusing this with the news from a year ago that Steam doesn’t support Windows 7 and 8 anymore?
By the way MS-support for 7 ended in 2015, so that’s 9 more years of Steam support after updates from MS stopped. I’d count on Steam working on Windows 10 for years to come.
Microsoft is looking at combining Xbox and Windows experiences together — and that we should see changes this very year, rather than needing to wait for an Xbox handheld that might still be years away
So there probably will be an xbox handheld, but don’t hold your breath. In the meantime they actually are a little worried about how much SteamOS is showing Windows up.
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I’m not a big Linux person, but the steam deck NOT being windows seems like a plus generally. >_>
I was using Lenovo’s handheld a few weeks before release and was really impressed by the specs until I turned it on and it was windows and I made an audible laugh. They were saying I had no idea what I was talking about and how windows was the future of handheld gaming. Which made me laugh some more, guess who’s making a SteamOS handheld now?
Anything Microsoft built lately is dogshit. They turned Windows into a steaming pile of shit over the past 20 years. When you think it can’t get any worse, they somehow raise the bar on disappointment.
No doubt it will be loaded with a shit ton of tracking/telemetry to build new datasets and train LLMs. Mining data from kids/teenagers and building those ad profiles early on is key.
Repairability will likely be shit as well.
The best is none of either
So… Are they selling a box full of hot air? That’s the best marketing stunt ever
We’ve come full circle, almost like a red ring of death.
RROD was actually 3/4ths of a circle. A full red circle was a different and less troubling error.
I just don’t get why they didn’t think of quickly porting the Xbox interface over to desktop Windows. Should have been an easy fix to make handheld gaming on Windows more appealing.
It’s a lot more than that. SteamOS isn’t just Steam Big Picture Mode. There’s some special sauce in there to capture the active window so that you never lose focus of the game window and such. If you just run a Windows machine set to boot into Steam Big Picture on startup, you’ll find lots of times that you have to break out a keyboard to Alt+Tab for a variety of reasons that SteamOS never encounters. And given the other problems Windows has introduced over the past decade, that’s the least of their problems now.
All hail Gamescope!
Just chiming in to confirm you’re correct. I use big picture mode on windows and I’ve got to keep an air mouse with me for moments like that.
People think Xbox is shit at the moment. Making things more like xbox isnt received as positively as it used to be. When I was a windows user and I saw anything Xbox related come up I knew I was about to deal with some clunky bullshit that was not wanted and poorly implemented.
I haven’t heard anything from MS on the subject of Xbox since the release of PS5. I think it’s dead in the water.
Get an Xbox PC app for Steam Deck then, Microsoft.
I’m going to imagine Xbox would love to. But Microsoft is stopping them. They’d stop android and ios too if they still had windows phone.
You missed the part where Microsoft had better apps on Android and iOS during the W10M period. Satya never cared for Windows Phone once he became CEO.
The best of windows? Windows 11 is shit. Is there some better windows they are hiding somewhere?
Windows 2000 Pro?
Yes, it’s called Windows 7.
Actually, yes there is! Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC. massgrave.dev
The best of Windows is running more than just games that got ported to Xbox, and at better settings.
Get fucked. After all the shit I’ve seen them pulling with Windows 11 they’ll never get a dime out of me again. I’ll ride my win 10 until it’s out of support then switch to Linux. Fuck monopolies, and fuck enshittification for profit.
SteamOS for pc can’t come soon enough.
Amen. I’ll trust that until Gabe dies and of course some shithead takes his place and ruins the company
Steam already runs fine on Linux, you don’t need SteamOS to us the compatibility functionality, meaning anything you can play on the steamdeck already works on a Linux pc.
To add to this;
Playing modern Windows games on Linux and SteamOS is done using Wine and Proton. Wine is available on almost every Linux distro and Proton comes* with Steam.
*You can use Proton outside of Steam but it’s quite hacky and not really needed.
Just install Mint Cinnamon. It’s super approachable and Steam works great on it.
Why do you want SteamOS though? Unless you’re making a Steam Machine there are better options out there for desktop usage.
Isn’t steam about to no longer support 10?
No.
Couldn’t even find a rumor of it. It wouldn’t make sense for steam to stop supporting such a large part of their userbase.
I’m sure on the game specs on the store it says steam will no longer support win 10 in jan 2025. Unless i misread and it’s it’ll only support win 10 and above.
Unless you provide a source I will consider your comment as FUD.
I’m pretty certain it’s latter of my comment. Don’t know what FUD means though
Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt
Maybe you are confusing this with the news from a year ago that Steam doesn’t support Windows 7 and 8 anymore?
By the way MS-support for 7 ended in 2015, so that’s 9 more years of Steam support after updates from MS stopped. I’d count on Steam working on Windows 10 for years to come.
Yeah i assumed this might’ve been the case, hence the last sentence in my comment
Don’t wait till support ends, it will make the switch more stressfull
I plan to use zero patch until eol then go Linux. https://0patch.com/
This could be a snapdragon X handheld, and one day run an unofficial good OS.
Nobody wants this
Game Pass subscribers and people who play games with kernel level anti-cheat do.
Key quote:
So there probably will be an xbox handheld, but don’t hold your breath. In the meantime they actually are a little worried about how much SteamOS is showing Windows up.
They obviously mean steamOS haha
I think the opposite is gonna be the case
Are we getting another windows 8 without start menu again?