Skyrim was a defining game of a generation, the next one is going to be a let down no matter what. If they at least put the effort in that they have with the mainline elder scrolls and fallout games it has a chance to be.
Bethesda was garbage way before the acquisition. Meanwhile you have studios like Double Fine and Obsidian that are completely fine, so I don’t understand the take
I mean, I don’t know what to tell you, after Fallout 76 and Starfield I’d say expectations are well and truly tempered.
I don’t want to appear dismissive, the bar for triple A RPGs is insane, but it’s been long enough that I think meeting the scope of the few good Bethesda ones that everyone remembers would very much satisfy people, at least if they looked good and played well, which would be a Bethesda first.
Skyrim, Red Dead Redemption 2 and The Last of Us really spoiled me with environmental immersion and story, so every game played after is just disappointing.
Bethesda essentially must build a close as possible simulation to a fantasy reality on a map the real life size of Poland in Unreal Engine 5 with a story like the first five seasons of Game of Thrones or it will fail.
Big budget studios love to just remake old content. They hate original ideas. So they should go back to fantastic games like Morrowind and Daggerfall and Skyrim and make them less annoying, prettier, hey put all the old stuff into the Skyrim framework, at least! Shame no one had thought of that.
You joke, but of they made 110% of morrowind, addong the fallout 4 mechanics like crafting, item sorting, settlement building and gal decorating I’d order early access. Mind you, me preordering is as likely as Bethesda making a stable game.
My expectation is it will follow the trend of getting worse so meeting mine should be an easy enough bar. For real though if they can just make it feel like an alien world and not medieval with magic I’d be at least content. My unrealistic elder scrolls dream is for a landfall game where the player is just some civilian and you’re running from and watching all the bat-shittery that’s going on
well my expectation is that it’s going to be shit, and I’m afraid they’ll have a hard time to even meet that.
they don’t have good writers. the last time they did they made Morrowind. oblivion was uninspired. Skyrim was their last hurrah. a game saved by environmental artists and side quest designers. the main story was mid. the gameplay was jank. the characters were mostly bad.
starfield had no vision, no direction, awful writing, forgettable quests, terrible characters. i doubt 6 will be any better. maybe a little because it has decades of lore and world building that might carry it somewhat. but I’m not the least bit excited.
All they need to do is bigger better Skyrim with different story. Keep all the lore, sidewuests, NPCs having their own lives, and beautiful map. Don’t dumb down the gameplay systems, make them accessible and/or configurable if you want but don’t dumb them down.
Honestly I’m expecting a hot steaming pile of garbage given their trajectory. Just another fantasy veneer on the same tired Bethesda formula rife with bugs. My expectations are so low, in fact, my plan is to wait for a good sale to get it, or until I hear that it’s released in a playable state but still post release.
there’s a mandatory 200GB texture pack update on day one.
the Creation Club is integral to the main story.
skills are distilled down to STRONG, BENDY, SMART.
these three skills have a perk tree which is actually just a perk stick with no branches.
AI assesses whether your constructed town is good enough and won’t let you proceed to the next mission unless you’ve gone to Granny Earl’s house for three consecutive IRL Sunday’s and sent photos of your freshly baked Sweet Roll™ to the Bethesda’s Antarctic game studio (you incur all costs associated with postage) in the middle of Winter (May).
races outside of Imperial are DLC, as is any skin colour besides white, and any genital options besides “Jewish”.
Yup it is. Most recent example is Space Marine 2. I don’t have a problem paying full price if the review consensus is that it’s good enough to warrant it. So I waited for the reviews, and my most trusted reviewers lavished it so I bought it day one. Lo and behold it lived up.
Bethesda has already run up against the wall of insurmountable expectations with Starfield, which by most measures was good but not great. That’s resulted in a sub-60% user rating on Steam and a general sense that the game was somehow a failure—or at the very least, a fumble.
Ah no. The problem with Starfield is mostly that they didn’t know where to go with it.
I could understand that moons are moons, but maybe juuuust maybe have more than like 5 different POIs?
We all know Bethesdas plan was to let modders make their game for them while they charge you for it under the guise of “we want creators to make money!”
It doesn’t need to meet outstanding expectations, TODD, it just needs to be a good fucking game…TODD. Skyrim isn’t good because it has the best fighting mechanics or most outstanding AI or anything like that. It has stood this long because anybody can turn it on and literally just pick a direction and exist. The world that was crafted is still interesting to this day. We don’t need a game that is better than Skyrim, we just want something similar, updated, and worth stepping into for the world and our own imaginations. Modding support not put aside.
Bethesda: we made an engine we intend on using FOREVER and now that microsuck owns us we’re bound to limiting the capabilities of the engine to work on the Xbox toaster exdition, plus of course we’re a greedy lazy corporation that only cares about extracting every last penny from our IPs. SO WHY DON’T YOU WORSHIP US!?
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skyrim bethesda is not the same thing as starfield bethesda
One is bad bethesda and the other is slightly worse Bethesda
Skyrim was a defining game of a generation, the next one is going to be a let down no matter what. If they at least put the effort in that they have with the mainline elder scrolls and fallout games it has a chance to be.
I don’t buy Bethesda games anymore esp if they are owned by micro-shit.
The worst of the corporate slop
Bethesda was garbage way before the acquisition. Meanwhile you have studios like Double Fine and Obsidian that are completely fine, so I don’t understand the take
Windows user spotted
It is funny that whenever I see a reply from someone from @thebrainbin it always sounds like a teenager
Translation: “We refuse to bring Michael Kirkbride back to the project.”
I mean, I don’t know what to tell you, after Fallout 76 and Starfield I’d say expectations are well and truly tempered.
I don’t want to appear dismissive, the bar for triple A RPGs is insane, but it’s been long enough that I think meeting the scope of the few good Bethesda ones that everyone remembers would very much satisfy people, at least if they looked good and played well, which would be a Bethesda first.
Skyrim, Red Dead Redemption 2 and The Last of Us really spoiled me with environmental immersion and story, so every game played after is just disappointing.
Bethesda essentially must build a close as possible simulation to a fantasy reality on a map the real life size of Poland in Unreal Engine 5 with a story like the first five seasons of Game of Thrones or it will fail.
And Witcher 3?
Big budget studios love to just remake old content. They hate original ideas. So they should go back to fantastic games like Morrowind and Daggerfall and Skyrim and make them less annoying, prettier, hey put all the old stuff into the Skyrim framework, at least! Shame no one had thought of that.
/s
(Skywind, I think, and Skyblivion?)
You joke, but of they made 110% of morrowind, addong the fallout 4 mechanics like crafting, item sorting, settlement building and gal decorating I’d order early access. Mind you, me preordering is as likely as Bethesda making a stable game.
My expectation is it will follow the trend of getting worse so meeting mine should be an easy enough bar. For real though if they can just make it feel like an alien world and not medieval with magic I’d be at least content. My unrealistic elder scrolls dream is for a landfall game where the player is just some civilian and you’re running from and watching all the bat-shittery that’s going on
well my expectation is that it’s going to be shit, and I’m afraid they’ll have a hard time to even meet that.
they don’t have good writers. the last time they did they made Morrowind. oblivion was uninspired. Skyrim was their last hurrah. a game saved by environmental artists and side quest designers. the main story was mid. the gameplay was jank. the characters were mostly bad.
starfield had no vision, no direction, awful writing, forgettable quests, terrible characters. i doubt 6 will be any better. maybe a little because it has decades of lore and world building that might carry it somewhat. but I’m not the least bit excited.
All they need to do is bigger better Skyrim with different story. Keep all the lore, sidewuests, NPCs having their own lives, and beautiful map. Don’t dumb down the gameplay systems, make them accessible and/or configurable if you want but don’t dumb them down.
Theyve been dumbing down systems since before Skyrim honestly, it’s been the consistent complaint ever since Morrowind came out.
Bethesda design challenge: impossible.
Honestly I’m expecting a hot steaming pile of garbage given their trajectory. Just another fantasy veneer on the same tired Bethesda formula rife with bugs. My expectations are so low, in fact, my plan is to wait for a good sale to get it, or until I hear that it’s released in a playable state but still post release.
I’m expecting:
Wtf was that last point
Shlongs of Skyrim my man
I don’t know man, sounds like something you should be asking Todd at the next shareholder meeting.
American standards of decency require genital mutilation.
Genital options!
Best guess is It’s something about circumcised versus non? Because that’s important
You should always buy post release. Early adopters are overpaying beta testers.
That should be your approach to 100% of games.
Yup it is. Most recent example is Space Marine 2. I don’t have a problem paying full price if the review consensus is that it’s good enough to warrant it. So I waited for the reviews, and my most trusted reviewers lavished it so I bought it day one. Lo and behold it lived up.
I don’t expect the same for ES6.
Same, I didn’t want to go in early on that game but I’m very happy I did.
It just good, clean and terribly unwholesome fun.
Ah no. The problem with Starfield is mostly that they didn’t know where to go with it.
Also no one wanted a Space Dragonborn.
They thought the open planets concept would be as appealing as the open worlds concept and it’s not cuz the world’s are boring.
I could understand that moons are moons, but maybe juuuust maybe have more than like 5 different POIs?
We all know Bethesdas plan was to let modders make their game for them while they charge you for it under the guise of “we want creators to make money!”
Actually, it will be super easy, barely an inconvenience for them to meet my expectations, because they’re so low. But they probably still won’t.
It doesn’t need to meet outstanding expectations, TODD, it just needs to be a good fucking game…TODD. Skyrim isn’t good because it has the best fighting mechanics or most outstanding AI or anything like that. It has stood this long because anybody can turn it on and literally just pick a direction and exist. The world that was crafted is still interesting to this day. We don’t need a game that is better than Skyrim, we just want something similar, updated, and worth stepping into for the world and our own imaginations. Modding support not put aside.
Bethesda: we made an engine we intend on using FOREVER and now that microsuck owns us we’re bound to limiting the capabilities of the engine to work on the Xbox toaster exdition, plus of course we’re a greedy lazy corporation that only cares about extracting every last penny from our IPs. SO WHY DON’T YOU WORSHIP US!?