The successor to Nintendo Switch named Switch 2 will continue to be a hybrid console that can be played on TV and in portable mode, it will be launched
The successor to Nintendo Switch named Switch 2 will continue to be a hybrid console that can be played on TV and in portable mode, it will be launched without an OLED screen (it will have an LCD) and it will have cartridges/cards for physical games , according to various sources. Anonymous to VGC, where they say that the device is “likely” to hit stores in the second half of 2024. They add that there are already development studios outside the Japanese company with the development kit.
I do not care about the screen tech one bit, I think LCD is fine for handheld if the price is low, but what I DO care about is using somewhat modern cpu/gpu so games don’t constantly lag even trying to hit 30fps. That’s by far my biggest complaint about the Switch 1. So if they can fix that then I’m on board! If not, I’ll probably just honestly pirate everything and play it on my computer where it won’t run like dog ass.
Yeah it can barely handle Breath of the Wild. Some of the new AMD APUs are really impressive, so I hope they make the jump. However for compatibility and cost I think they’ll just go with an upgraded Tegra.
Yeah, BotW was cutting it close, while Tears of the Kingdom really is too much for the Switch. I got real tired of the framerate taking a dive every time I used Ultrahand.
I’m really surprised I haven’t had any major framerate drops in TotK. I’m using my launch-day system, so as old as they get, and playing hand-held almost exclusively it’s been pretty darn smooth.
For the few hours I bothered with totk I never had any lag either, also a launch switch. Maybe I didn’t go in far enough, but it ran smoothly all the time.
It would be interesting if they made the jump to x86, but in addition to what you mentioned, I don’t think they’d go for it due to the extra power and thermal requirements. I think people would bash on Nintendo if the Switch 2 was way beefier in form factor compared to the Switch 1.
I think you’re right on all counts, but RDNA 3, due out next year, is claimed to achieve a 54% increase in performance-per-watt. They could limit clocks/power and achieve similar levels of battery life with significant performance gains; all while keeping thermals down. One can dream!
Since the steam deck 2 will make use of the amazing gains, I wonder if people will really start considering the Deck as an alternative to Switch 2. There’s already a TON of overlap in the indy game scene. SO many of those release on both Steam and Switch.
Obviously the hardcore Nintendo IP fans will stick with Switch 2, but outside of that … ???
Yeah it has to be 4KHDR 30fps and 4KSDR/QHD 60fps docked to even market its difference. That’s the standard now. It’s like having an SD console during the Xbox/PS3 gen. So it needs a proper APU to be able to keep every game stable or have the new dock have an eGPU.
Exactly. It’s like when you start an RPG game where you choose how many points to put into each category. If Nintendo has $300 and puts most into CPU/GPU and not as much into screen, then I’m gonna be super happy. People forget that when the OLED switch came out, the other components were cheaper to buy, making room in the budget for the OLED screen.
When components for the Switch 2 get discounted for Nintendo to buy, then they will add an OLED screen.
I’ll rather pay once that 10 bucks a month for the next 36 months. I also like still having the game in 15 years, after the servers have been shut down, and when i wouldnt pay a monthly fee
Amd then theyre stuck with a game they bought full price to play once for shits n giggles. Game passes are great for getting to try out games you might not play otherwise or would only want to play once.
Steam’s approach is best. Buy the game at any price, frequently discounted, return any time without questions if you played less than 2h and two weeks of ownership. I think that’s incredibly fair. Plus you get to keep your games should Steam ever go under.
What a strange business decision, especially given their comment about wanting to convert as many switch users to the next console as possible. On one hand this makes Nintendo look incredibly greedy, not at all a good look. On the other I feel this has to be done based on user data from the Switch right? Surely they are going by the data showing OLED sales were low and more users prefer to play docked… Right? RIGHT Nintendo? Personally I just find it annoying, I picked up my switch 6 months before they announced the OLED version, and got mildly screwed out of a slightly improved experience. NOT this time though Nintendo, I’ll just bloody wait. I don’t consider myself a particularly unusual person either, if I’m willing to wait for the “pro” version then I imagine many others will too. Perhaps Nintendo intends to split the docked and undocked consoles, focusing more on a “docked” Switch edition that has a worse screen, and a portable Switch with a better screen etc. Sort of like the way they split the 3DS with the 2DS, then again Nintendo has done the “two console” thing for a long long time, OG Gameboy Advance and the SP, DS and DS Lite, 3DS and DS, they even did the Wii and the WiiU, Switch and Switch OLED… So I guess actually it makes perfect sense they would screw their customers for some extra moolah, sigh.
The Switch was great because it combined the two product lines of console and handheld into one. They won’t split them completely, just have one that’s slightly better screen.
I have heard that dev kits were going out, probably the most credible rumors I’ve heard so far, but unless it’s more like a switch 1.5, I don’t think we’re going to have a holiday 2024 release windows. Unless it’s announced during holiday 2023 I suppose, but I can’t see less than a year of marketing unless it’s more of a deluxe/pro version.
The Switch was announced in October and released in March and it was plenty of time for hype. A console with this many sales didn’t need a year of hype, I think that long of a wait would do the opposite actually.
Hmm, wow, looks like you’re right, I thought that cycle was a lot longer. Perhaps because I end up so steepped in the rumor and leak community. Maybe then, maybe. The first time I heard the dev kit rumors was probably back in January ish? So let’s say they had them for a quarter before the rumor got out, though it could obviously be a lot longer.
That’s September 2022 to November 2024 to prepare launch titles, definitely not a bad timeline at all, especially if the architecture is similar to the switch.
Oh yeah, the rumours were swirling around for so long before hand. Nintendo Live is in Sept, so they might announce then and go for a May release. A bit longer between but a good time to build hype.
Yeah, leak season is my favorite part of the cycle, because so many of them are just so outlandish it’s hilarious, plus the community is usually pretty chill about everything, even when the leak you supported/believed was debunked. Here’s hoping, I think it’ll either be September to May or June to November, with that new information. The death of E3 has opened up a lot of possibilities for announcements. It’s almost more exciting than when you knew where it would be revealed.
Unless I’m missing something here, this website does not provide a link to the original source and adds little to the discussion. They don’t even refer to them by their full name.
This is considered to be very scummy behavior not just in games journalism, but in journalism in general. If you can’t do your own coverage, at least have basic respect for the people who can.
Don’t you see. The Switch 2 may have an LCD or an OLED screen! It also may, or may not, have backwards compatibility with the first Switch! It also may, or may not, release in 2024!
How can anyone not be potentially excited about these things that may, or may not, be true!
What’s worse is that the title states this as fact when the original article claims it’s rumors from close sources, we don’t actually know when it’s coming or if dev kits are widely available.
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They are probably getting it out now due to the battery regulations coming in, in the EU in 2027. All of the R&D is already done and its probably too late in the lifecycle to change the design to have a removable battery. They’ll just do it on the next console.
Yay, rebuying all my indie games I could have gotten on Steam for half of the price just to keep playing on the go. Because that’s what they’ll make us do.
And paying 70 bucks for the first party games. Really can’t wait!
I’m not even sure my Switch works anymore tbh - Steamdeck completely replaced it for me. The games are cheaper, run better and it’s a full blown PC that can do so many things including emulation.
Yay, rebuying all my indie games I could have gotten on Steam for half of the price just to keep playing on the go. Because that’s what they’ll make us do
This is what the SteamDeck (or ASUS ROG Ally) is for my friend 😊
The GameCube, Wii, and Wii U all use the same basic setup: PowerPC G3 CPU and an ATi/AMD GPU with an upgrade each generation. They are, in effect, very similar to how the PS4 and Xbox One started their own current trends. In fact, the Wii U can run GameCube games natively with some effort, and Wii games out of the box.
But WiiU is anything but a Wii in another case. It is completely different in how you play the games through the controller and different to what the first comment was saying
It was a PS4 Pro situation. It was still the DS family, same games etc. A Switch 2 with only updated internals would be totally different, it won’t be the same console
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Going back to LCD is shitty. If they fix joycon drift I’ll forgive it.
They won’t. It’s likely to up a slight hardware improvement and different size carts so you have to buy Switch 2 only games.
I do not care about the screen tech one bit, I think LCD is fine for handheld if the price is low, but what I DO care about is using somewhat modern cpu/gpu so games don’t constantly lag even trying to hit 30fps. That’s by far my biggest complaint about the Switch 1. So if they can fix that then I’m on board! If not, I’ll probably just honestly pirate everything and play it on my computer where it won’t run like dog ass.
Yeah it can barely handle Breath of the Wild. Some of the new AMD APUs are really impressive, so I hope they make the jump. However for compatibility and cost I think they’ll just go with an upgraded Tegra.
Yeah, BotW was cutting it close, while Tears of the Kingdom really is too much for the Switch. I got real tired of the framerate taking a dive every time I used Ultrahand.
I’m really surprised I haven’t had any major framerate drops in TotK. I’m using my launch-day system, so as old as they get, and playing hand-held almost exclusively it’s been pretty darn smooth.
For the few hours I bothered with totk I never had any lag either, also a launch switch. Maybe I didn’t go in far enough, but it ran smoothly all the time.
It would be interesting if they made the jump to x86, but in addition to what you mentioned, I don’t think they’d go for it due to the extra power and thermal requirements. I think people would bash on Nintendo if the Switch 2 was way beefier in form factor compared to the Switch 1.
I wouldn’t mind a beefier switch, the original always feels so fragile in my meaty mitts
I think you’re right on all counts, but RDNA 3, due out next year, is claimed to achieve a 54% increase in performance-per-watt. They could limit clocks/power and achieve similar levels of battery life with significant performance gains; all while keeping thermals down. One can dream!
I hope those rumors are true! Those RDNA 3 performance gains could do wonders for the handheld PC market as well.
Since the steam deck 2 will make use of the amazing gains, I wonder if people will really start considering the Deck as an alternative to Switch 2. There’s already a TON of overlap in the indy game scene. SO many of those release on both Steam and Switch.
Obviously the hardcore Nintendo IP fans will stick with Switch 2, but outside of that … ???
The Deck has really been a game changer!
ARM chips have seen massive gains too. If they use a sufficiently powerful chip, then I’m sure they could easily match the performance of a PS4.
Yeah it has to be 4KHDR 30fps and 4KSDR/QHD 60fps docked to even market its difference. That’s the standard now. It’s like having an SD console during the Xbox/PS3 gen. So it needs a proper APU to be able to keep every game stable or have the new dock have an eGPU.
Exactly. It’s like when you start an RPG game where you choose how many points to put into each category. If Nintendo has $300 and puts most into CPU/GPU and not as much into screen, then I’m gonna be super happy. People forget that when the OLED switch came out, the other components were cheaper to buy, making room in the budget for the OLED screen.
When components for the Switch 2 get discounted for Nintendo to buy, then they will add an OLED screen.
All Nintendo needs is a game library subscription kind of thing. I don’t want to pay £70 for Super Mario Wii U Switch 2 4K
I’ll rather pay once that 10 bucks a month for the next 36 months. I also like still having the game in 15 years, after the servers have been shut down, and when i wouldnt pay a monthly fee
Amd then theyre stuck with a game they bought full price to play once for shits n giggles. Game passes are great for getting to try out games you might not play otherwise or would only want to play once.
Steam’s approach is best. Buy the game at any price, frequently discounted, return any time without questions if you played less than 2h and two weeks of ownership. I think that’s incredibly fair. Plus you get to keep your games should Steam ever go under.
What a strange business decision, especially given their comment about wanting to convert as many switch users to the next console as possible. On one hand this makes Nintendo look incredibly greedy, not at all a good look. On the other I feel this has to be done based on user data from the Switch right? Surely they are going by the data showing OLED sales were low and more users prefer to play docked… Right? RIGHT Nintendo? Personally I just find it annoying, I picked up my switch 6 months before they announced the OLED version, and got mildly screwed out of a slightly improved experience. NOT this time though Nintendo, I’ll just bloody wait. I don’t consider myself a particularly unusual person either, if I’m willing to wait for the “pro” version then I imagine many others will too. Perhaps Nintendo intends to split the docked and undocked consoles, focusing more on a “docked” Switch edition that has a worse screen, and a portable Switch with a better screen etc. Sort of like the way they split the 3DS with the 2DS, then again Nintendo has done the “two console” thing for a long long time, OG Gameboy Advance and the SP, DS and DS Lite, 3DS and DS, they even did the Wii and the WiiU, Switch and Switch OLED… So I guess actually it makes perfect sense they would screw their customers for some extra moolah, sigh.
The Switch was great because it combined the two product lines of console and handheld into one. They won’t split them completely, just have one that’s slightly better screen.
I have heard that dev kits were going out, probably the most credible rumors I’ve heard so far, but unless it’s more like a switch 1.5, I don’t think we’re going to have a holiday 2024 release windows. Unless it’s announced during holiday 2023 I suppose, but I can’t see less than a year of marketing unless it’s more of a deluxe/pro version.
The Switch was announced in October and released in March and it was plenty of time for hype. A console with this many sales didn’t need a year of hype, I think that long of a wait would do the opposite actually.
Yeah Nintendo is pretty good during the modern era with buttoning everything up before previews for a short launch.
Hmm, wow, looks like you’re right, I thought that cycle was a lot longer. Perhaps because I end up so steepped in the rumor and leak community. Maybe then, maybe. The first time I heard the dev kit rumors was probably back in January ish? So let’s say they had them for a quarter before the rumor got out, though it could obviously be a lot longer.
That’s September 2022 to November 2024 to prepare launch titles, definitely not a bad timeline at all, especially if the architecture is similar to the switch.
Oh yeah, the rumours were swirling around for so long before hand. Nintendo Live is in Sept, so they might announce then and go for a May release. A bit longer between but a good time to build hype.
Yeah, leak season is my favorite part of the cycle, because so many of them are just so outlandish it’s hilarious, plus the community is usually pretty chill about everything, even when the leak you supported/believed was debunked. Here’s hoping, I think it’ll either be September to May or June to November, with that new information. The death of E3 has opened up a lot of possibilities for announcements. It’s almost more exciting than when you knew where it would be revealed.
Yeah but… Steam Deck.
They should name it, Switched.
Super Switch
Unless I’m missing something here, this website does not provide a link to the original source and adds little to the discussion. They don’t even refer to them by their full name.
This is the original source: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sources-nintendo-switch-2-targets-2024-with-next-gen-console/
This is considered to be very scummy behavior not just in games journalism, but in journalism in general. If you can’t do your own coverage, at least have basic respect for the people who can.
Don’t you see. The Switch 2 may have an LCD or an OLED screen! It also may, or may not, have backwards compatibility with the first Switch! It also may, or may not, release in 2024!
How can anyone not be potentially excited about these things that may, or may not, be true!
It may or may not be able to take us to Mars
I mean, it probably has the computing power to do it. That’s not a super high bar given what we got to the moon with though.
My heart says “maybe”
What’s worse is that the title states this as fact when the original article claims it’s rumors from close sources, we don’t actually know when it’s coming or if dev kits are widely available.
SEO centric content farms are a cancer on the internet and on information in general. We have the capability of democratically crowd sourcing the absolute best quality information out there, and make it available to anyone in the blink of an eye.
Instead we have an army of bots lazily rehashing half-content found on forums and reposting it as misconstrued fact, while battling with other bots for the top third of google’s increasingly godforsaken, ad-ridden search results page. All so us poor sods can be interested in something, search for it, and be consistently disappointed in the results we get back while our data is sold to people who will actively work to make the situation worse.
It’s truly a sad thing to behold.
Let’s call it what it is: blog spam. Probably falling under the low effort rule.
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It’s not going to be the Switch U?
I heard that they’ve named it the “SwitchCube Advance SP 3DS”
I’ll still call it a Gameboy
Oh… not the turbo edition then. Lame.
I’m voting for the SwIItch (or Swiitch)
Wasn’t supposed to be called The new Switch U deluxe?
/me puts on speculation hat
They are probably getting it out now due to the battery regulations coming in, in the EU in 2027. All of the R&D is already done and its probably too late in the lifecycle to change the design to have a removable battery. They’ll just do it on the next console.
Pretty sure EU regulations allow for batteries that are internal, but reasonably user-replaceable. The Switch’s battery is one of those.
Don’t buy that shit, it’s a tablet with closed source software in it
Believe it or not, most of don’t buy consoles to play Tux Racer.
Yay, rebuying all my indie games I could have gotten on Steam for half of the price just to keep playing on the go. Because that’s what they’ll make us do.
And paying 70 bucks for the first party games. Really can’t wait!
Hey now, 70 is what we pay for 720p games. 4k is gonna cost you a bit more.
Steam Deck exists people. Basically replaced my Switch for everything not first party exclusive
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I’m not even sure my Switch works anymore tbh - Steamdeck completely replaced it for me. The games are cheaper, run better and it’s a full blown PC that can do so many things including emulation.
This is what the SteamDeck (or ASUS ROG Ally) is for my friend 😊
Neat.
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The Switch line was great because it integrated their console and handheld lines into one. They won’t go away from that.
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Wii U stuck to it. Same motion based, same wiimote along with new pad, same CD style. They marketed it very, very badly
Hopefully they’re not switching to the Apple business model.
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If it ain’t broke don’t switch it!
DS->DS Lite->DSi->DSi XL->3DS->3DS XL->New 3DS XL I think it tracks perfectly
DS lite, DSi, DSi XL were just iterations of the original DS. Same with 3DS family. These weren’t a new console, only 2 consoles - DS and 3DS
Fine, Wii > Wii U
How were Wii and WiiU similar in anything but the name?
The GameCube, Wii, and Wii U all use the same basic setup: PowerPC G3 CPU and an ATi/AMD GPU with an upgrade each generation. They are, in effect, very similar to how the PS4 and Xbox One started their own current trends. In fact, the Wii U can run GameCube games natively with some effort, and Wii games out of the box.
But WiiU is anything but a Wii in another case. It is completely different in how you play the games through the controller and different to what the first comment was saying
NES -> SNES.
The DSi was a hardware upgrade and so was the New 3DS.
It was a PS4 Pro situation. It was still the DS family, same games etc. A Switch 2 with only updated internals would be totally different, it won’t be the same console