I’ve never skipped a console gen starting from Super NES, PS1 through 4 plus the Switch Oled 5 years after launch of the OG Switch
It seems like exclusives are rarer now with Sony and Xbox pushing games to PC and Nintendo spending resources on remasters. COVID made it incredibly difficult to own a PS5 and they have some disappointing exclusives as well
What do you think? Any reason to own a PS5 or PS5 pro?
It’s worth it just for my PS4 library not punishing me with a ten minute wait every time I die. The loading entirely changes the experience and enables punishing gameplay to be far less frustrating, in the same way Celeste can have harder sequences and be less annoying than something like Mario at the same time.
An SSD on PC is definitely a step up from anything before this gen.
This gen (at least PS5, which leans hard into the tech with hardware decompression on top of the silly raw speed of the drives) is better than PC, though (for now). The hardware you’re buying now can do pretty much everything the PS5 hardware can, but because the software stack to use it isn’t the same and universal, there’s definitely more loads. It’s similar to how PS4 games load fast (especially compared to on the actual PS4), but get blown out of the water by PS5 games. I die in Horizon: Zero Dawn, it’s 5-10 seconds. Which is fine. But I die in Forbidden West, which is prettier and has more complexity (mechanically and the environment) and it’s maybe a second.
For what it’s worth I love the ps5. The ps5 controller absolutely reinvigorated my love of gaming. I know some pc games are getting the adaptive triggers but I do not think it compares.
My partner and I got a PS5 when they became available and only played a couple of games on it. It mostly collects dust now. I’d attribute a lot to PlayStation’s games becoming more available on PC.
As someone who skipped the last generation… I think this one is way better… Because it’s fully backwards compatible.
Since I got a PS5 I’ve gone back and played many games I missed. Meanwhile the only game for the PS5 I play is GT7. And since I’ve loved every GT game, it was worth it for me.
I expect that GTA 6 will be the next PS5 game I actually get.
I think this is by far the worst generation for gaming.
Obviously from a technical standpoint, it’s great. Fast loading times, better performance, graphical prowess. But in terms of the quality of the games, it’s dire. I honestly don’t understand why I was in such a rush to buy a PS5, because most of the games I’ve enjoyed have had PS4 versions, so whilst I may have experienced that better performance and graphics etc, I didn’t really need to buy a PS5.
I didn’t need to buy my PS5 either, but my PS4 was a much older device I’d bought cheap from a co-worker and I felt like it was getting slow.
The bonus of having both is that the PS4 is comparatively light and compact, so I can travel with it, and for the two PS5 exclusives I have, there is an option to remote play the PS5 on the PS4, so I’m generally happy with my purchase.
All that notwithstanding, I’ve got an Xbox One X and I’ve seen no real need to upgrade that to a Series X. There are no Xbox exclusives for the Series X/S that have been driving forces.
This generation honestly feels like it lacks direction. The consoles are more expensive and are huge devices, with controllers that now cost more than games. With the original scarcity of the newer consoles, nearly four years into this generation, new releases are still available for the older gen. I feel like we’re reaching a point where console evolution either needs to take an enormous leap, or we just stop seeing console generations altogether.
You’re right in that exclusives are becoming less and less but I still think it’s worth getting a PS5.
If you have the wallet for it I think the perfect setup is owning a switch for party games and Nintendo exclusives, a PS5 for Sony exclusives/general couch gaming and as your media machine, and a PC for all the rest.
Ps5 definitely has some great exclusives that imo make the system worth it, not to mention the graphical upgrades and how quick it is compared to a ps4.
-Ghost of Tsushima is a beautiful game, with a great story and gameplay, performs so much better on PS5
-Spiderman 2
-God of war Ragnarok
-Horizon zero dawn
-Gran Turismo
I use my PS5 for most of my games over my gaming PC, just more comfortable for me. Also I still like that you can get lucky if you go to a GameStop and find used physical copies of expansive games at a discount.
I have also always recommended owning an Xbox/PlayStation as a media device as well.
Sound and image quality usually surpass your smaller basic steaming devices or built in smart TVs. Compared to my ps5, my ps4 crawls through the menus and loading screens. One of those things that you won’t notice until you upgrade.
Having said all that, I wouldn’t get the “pro” model, unless you have the cash and want to game in like 8k or some bs
The best thing about this gen so far is the rise of handheld PCs, like the Steam Deck and ROG Ally. I mostly play on the Deck nowadays, while the PS5 gathers dust.
The best thing about this gen so far is the rise of handheld PCs
I’d like to think this is due the Chinese handhelds picking up where Nintendo left… (In its own way ofc 🏴☠️) and I’m glad I was a participant of this…
But I think it is mostly because of cloud gaming and Nintendo Switch inspiration.
I play some Xbox SEX but I bought a PS5 on a whim when I had a (then-)rare chance in 2022, and it’s still unopened in my closet.
I just assumed it’s because I’m busy and wished I had more time. But now that you mention it, not a lot of must-play games. Even Elden Ring on Xbox, I could’ve played on PC just fine.
When the new FF7 remaster episode comes out I’ll probably set it up then.
I think this is actually a good thing. In a perfect world exclusives wouldn’t exist and you would buy things based on their own merits. Having to buy something you don’t want because you fear missing out on a game is a horrible experience. In fact I stopped caring because I got so tired of possibly missing out on a game. It has worked out great for me this generation.
As a lifetime PC gamer, I wholeheartedly agree. There were many console games I had been envious about in the PS2, PS3 or PS4 era. Now? Nope, nothing. Partially because the industry got so bad I’m hardly interested in most new games, but the exclusives are pretty much non-existent in the genres I’m interested in.
I’ll admit, since most games are playable on the ps4 instead, currently it does make some sense to skip ps5.
The only ones I can think of that I wouldn’t have missed are Returnal and Spiderman 2, but returnal is pretty difficult and not for everyone. I wouldn’t have missed Spider-man 2, but I loved the first one. It’s pretty short but amazing.
That being said, I love the speed and graphics of the PS5. Worth it to me for that.
The reason is PC part prices. If you want an affordable in on modern gaming, you get a PS5 or Xbox. Yeah, you can get used parts, change settings, upsampling, upgrade down the line. But tell that to the person who just wants to buy a machine that lets them play games, hard to convince people to likely go through a bigger hassle, pay more, and have to assemble, set it up, and manage it themselves. I own a gaming PC and an OLED Switch, and if a friend asked me, I‘d tell them to just get a PS5. I would‘ve said something different five years ago.
The PS5 is just a PS4 with new design and a bit better performance. No Exclusives because the developers know, that on pc they can just plug in a controller and have the same feeling ( And even on a handheld, aka Steamdeck… ).
My recommendation:
A handheld PC ( SteamDeck ( my favourite ) or the ROG Ally )
Differences:
Steamdeck:
2 Trackpads are really great! You can easily work with games that are mouse heavy. ( I use it for shooter games )
Fully customizable buttons ( literally everything, with even sub menus, alternative modes, community layouts etc… )
Joysticks are on the same height.
Linux, less overhead and longer gaming sessions. ( You can tinker more on linux than on windows, but valve did a great job on not locking you in so you can easily install any OS that runs steam ;D )
Repairability is the best! ( Valve has a cooperation with IFixit with replacement parts )
Upgradeability is easy ( For example bigger storage, better thumbsticks )
They hear to the community of gamers and repairers.
Pausing games is so easy ( Just press the power button and it saves the game where it is and saves power )
Its back again in under 5 seconds.
( Just to note those “Gamepass” Games can be easily installed if you just install windows on the steam deck if you want it )
ROG Ally:
No trackpad ( so only controller optimized games )
Windows ( A lot of overhead but best compatibility with games. )
ROGs software is sometimes a bit clunky but usable.
Joysticks are not on the same height.
You can plug a external GPU with a proprietary plug. ( Literally a GPU in a box with some extra costs, but it improves performance on some gpu intensive games )
PS4 and Xbone was the first generation I skipped. I always waited to see what console I was going to get first but then that whole gen just came and went before I knew it. I kind of wanted a switch this gen but I could never justify it to myself.
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It’s worth it just for my PS4 library not punishing me with a ten minute wait every time I die. The loading entirely changes the experience and enables punishing gameplay to be far less frustrating, in the same way Celeste can have harder sequences and be less annoying than something like Mario at the same time.
But the controller features are insane as well.
That was also my experience playing XCOM on a PS3 and then on a PC. It was almost like a whole new game.
An SSD on PC is definitely a step up from anything before this gen.
This gen (at least PS5, which leans hard into the tech with hardware decompression on top of the silly raw speed of the drives) is better than PC, though (for now). The hardware you’re buying now can do pretty much everything the PS5 hardware can, but because the software stack to use it isn’t the same and universal, there’s definitely more loads. It’s similar to how PS4 games load fast (especially compared to on the actual PS4), but get blown out of the water by PS5 games. I die in Horizon: Zero Dawn, it’s 5-10 seconds. Which is fine. But I die in Forbidden West, which is prettier and has more complexity (mechanically and the environment) and it’s maybe a second.
For what it’s worth I love the ps5. The ps5 controller absolutely reinvigorated my love of gaming. I know some pc games are getting the adaptive triggers but I do not think it compares.
My partner and I got a PS5 when they became available and only played a couple of games on it. It mostly collects dust now. I’d attribute a lot to PlayStation’s games becoming more available on PC.
As someone who skipped the last generation… I think this one is way better… Because it’s fully backwards compatible. Since I got a PS5 I’ve gone back and played many games I missed. Meanwhile the only game for the PS5 I play is GT7. And since I’ve loved every GT game, it was worth it for me. I expect that GTA 6 will be the next PS5 game I actually get.
I think this is by far the worst generation for gaming.
Obviously from a technical standpoint, it’s great. Fast loading times, better performance, graphical prowess. But in terms of the quality of the games, it’s dire. I honestly don’t understand why I was in such a rush to buy a PS5, because most of the games I’ve enjoyed have had PS4 versions, so whilst I may have experienced that better performance and graphics etc, I didn’t really need to buy a PS5.
I didn’t need to buy my PS5 either, but my PS4 was a much older device I’d bought cheap from a co-worker and I felt like it was getting slow.
The bonus of having both is that the PS4 is comparatively light and compact, so I can travel with it, and for the two PS5 exclusives I have, there is an option to remote play the PS5 on the PS4, so I’m generally happy with my purchase.
All that notwithstanding, I’ve got an Xbox One X and I’ve seen no real need to upgrade that to a Series X. There are no Xbox exclusives for the Series X/S that have been driving forces.
This generation honestly feels like it lacks direction. The consoles are more expensive and are huge devices, with controllers that now cost more than games. With the original scarcity of the newer consoles, nearly four years into this generation, new releases are still available for the older gen. I feel like we’re reaching a point where console evolution either needs to take an enormous leap, or we just stop seeing console generations altogether.
The size of this current console gen is strange TBH. Consoles have always been smaller and more compact than a full fledged Desktop PC.
I was taking my brand new PS4 on work trips and playing games all the time. No way that’s happening with the size of the PS5.
Consoles aren’t supposed to be portable I understand that BUT it’s definitely a consideration for a subset of customers that are on the go.
I prolly won’t get a PS5 unless I’m burning cash when GTA6 comes out.
I agree, thoughts are dire, from a AAA perspective, but the Indie scene is still hopping fun on Evercade and SteamDeck.
This is actually why I got a SteamDeck - I’ll dip into the AAA titles occasionally, but the Indie games are what I pre-order now.
You’re right in that exclusives are becoming less and less but I still think it’s worth getting a PS5.
If you have the wallet for it I think the perfect setup is owning a switch for party games and Nintendo exclusives, a PS5 for Sony exclusives/general couch gaming and as your media machine, and a PC for all the rest.
Ps5 definitely has some great exclusives that imo make the system worth it, not to mention the graphical upgrades and how quick it is compared to a ps4.
-Ghost of Tsushima is a beautiful game, with a great story and gameplay, performs so much better on PS5 -Spiderman 2 -God of war Ragnarok -Horizon zero dawn -Gran Turismo
I use my PS5 for most of my games over my gaming PC, just more comfortable for me. Also I still like that you can get lucky if you go to a GameStop and find used physical copies of expansive games at a discount.
I have also always recommended owning an Xbox/PlayStation as a media device as well. Sound and image quality usually surpass your smaller basic steaming devices or built in smart TVs. Compared to my ps5, my ps4 crawls through the menus and loading screens. One of those things that you won’t notice until you upgrade.
Having said all that, I wouldn’t get the “pro” model, unless you have the cash and want to game in like 8k or some bs
Also, much easier to get a ps5 now, most stores just have them in stock now, seen some used ones for sale too
The best thing about this gen so far is the rise of handheld PCs, like the Steam Deck and ROG Ally. I mostly play on the Deck nowadays, while the PS5 gathers dust.
The OLED Steam Deck has reinvigorated my love for videogames. I’m playing Dave The Diver and DBZ: Kakarot now.
Nice! I have it too! Its so easy to use and to play
Yeah, the Steam Deck (and clones) will be the cover story in this chapter of gaming history.
Yep :D Really like the steamdeck too!
I’d like to think this is due the Chinese handhelds picking up where Nintendo left… (In its own way ofc 🏴☠️) and I’m glad I was a participant of this…
But I think it is mostly because of cloud gaming and Nintendo Switch inspiration.
I play some Xbox SEX but I bought a PS5 on a whim when I had a (then-)rare chance in 2022, and it’s still unopened in my closet.
I just assumed it’s because I’m busy and wished I had more time. But now that you mention it, not a lot of must-play games. Even Elden Ring on Xbox, I could’ve played on PC just fine.
When the new FF7 remaster episode comes out I’ll probably set it up then.
Steam Deck is the MVP of this Gen, for sure.
I, too, play Xbox SEX
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I think this is actually a good thing. In a perfect world exclusives wouldn’t exist and you would buy things based on their own merits. Having to buy something you don’t want because you fear missing out on a game is a horrible experience. In fact I stopped caring because I got so tired of possibly missing out on a game. It has worked out great for me this generation.
As a lifetime PC gamer, I wholeheartedly agree. There were many console games I had been envious about in the PS2, PS3 or PS4 era. Now? Nope, nothing. Partially because the industry got so bad I’m hardly interested in most new games, but the exclusives are pretty much non-existent in the genres I’m interested in.
I’ll admit, since most games are playable on the ps4 instead, currently it does make some sense to skip ps5.
The only ones I can think of that I wouldn’t have missed are Returnal and Spiderman 2, but returnal is pretty difficult and not for everyone. I wouldn’t have missed Spider-man 2, but I loved the first one. It’s pretty short but amazing.
That being said, I love the speed and graphics of the PS5. Worth it to me for that.
The reason is PC part prices. If you want an affordable in on modern gaming, you get a PS5 or Xbox. Yeah, you can get used parts, change settings, upsampling, upgrade down the line. But tell that to the person who just wants to buy a machine that lets them play games, hard to convince people to likely go through a bigger hassle, pay more, and have to assemble, set it up, and manage it themselves. I own a gaming PC and an OLED Switch, and if a friend asked me, I‘d tell them to just get a PS5. I would‘ve said something different five years ago.
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I still would recommend a PC. Prebuilts do exist and it’s not like I’ll leave them hanging if they had any questions.
The PS5 is just a PS4 with new design and a bit better performance. No Exclusives because the developers know, that on pc they can just plug in a controller and have the same feeling ( And even on a handheld, aka Steamdeck… ). My recommendation:
A handheld PC ( SteamDeck ( my favourite ) or the ROG Ally )
Differences:
Steamdeck: 2 Trackpads are really great! You can easily work with games that are mouse heavy. ( I use it for shooter games ) Fully customizable buttons ( literally everything, with even sub menus, alternative modes, community layouts etc… ) Joysticks are on the same height. Linux, less overhead and longer gaming sessions. ( You can tinker more on linux than on windows, but valve did a great job on not locking you in so you can easily install any OS that runs steam ;D ) Repairability is the best! ( Valve has a cooperation with IFixit with replacement parts ) Upgradeability is easy ( For example bigger storage, better thumbsticks ) They hear to the community of gamers and repairers. Pausing games is so easy ( Just press the power button and it saves the game where it is and saves power ) Its back again in under 5 seconds.
( Just to note those “Gamepass” Games can be easily installed if you just install windows on the steam deck if you want it )
ROG Ally: No trackpad ( so only controller optimized games ) Windows ( A lot of overhead but best compatibility with games. ) ROGs software is sometimes a bit clunky but usable. Joysticks are not on the same height. You can plug a external GPU with a proprietary plug. ( Literally a GPU in a box with some extra costs, but it improves performance on some gpu intensive games )
PS4 and Xbone was the first generation I skipped. I always waited to see what console I was going to get first but then that whole gen just came and went before I knew it. I kind of wanted a switch this gen but I could never justify it to myself.
Really comes down to what you’re looking for.