I like how this article does not talk about the anti consumer practices engaged in by Nintendo, that might push some customers away from their consoles. /s Nintendo can disable your Switch 2 for piracy in the U.S., but not in Europe, as confirmed by its EULA. There is already a switch in my household, but the price along with the ability to remotely brick the device, is what made our household pass on the switch 2. We bought a second steam deck instead.
I was a Nintendo kid growing up, so I’m biased. But I can’t even defend them anymore. Their uncompetitive prices and anti-consumer practices are completely out-of-touch. I hope they either start listening to their fans, or go away and allow their games to be sold on other platforms…
I’ve been having a fantastic time with mine. Kirby Air Riders is an excellent sequel to one of my favorite childhood games. Cyberpunk went on an accidental super sale and I was able to get the complete edition for $17 USD. Fortnite doesn’t run like dogshit anymore. The console feels more sturdy and premium compared to Switch 1. An extra charging port on the top makes extended tabletop play possible now.
However I’ll always welcome headlines like this because the more Nintendo struggles, the better they get. Wii Sports was incredible and everyone had it. Switch 2 Welcome Tour should have never been a paid game and none of my S2 friends own it.
The main thing holding me back is the fact that it doesn’t have an OLED display. With the price hike between the original and 2, in my opinion it should’ve launched with an OLED as standard. When even cheap phones come with it, Nintendo has no excuse not to include one.
And the game prices also aren’t helping, I imagine. Not when the games themselves are lacklustre as well. The new Mario Kart should’ve been a system seller. But the people I know who own it, have reverted back to playing the previous version. That’s a baaaad look.
I’ll likely buy the Switch 2 when they launch an OLED and release a new Animal Crossing.
they are banking on 10 and under nagging on thier parents to buy the game cosole, they may only play few times a year. this was pretty much the craze of YUGIOH cards early 2000s, and pokemon in that same time period.
I mean, what is even there to play that you can’t play on Switch 1?
New Mario Kart? Donkey Kong whatever?
I’m sure they’re good games, I just don’t see someone who already owns a Switch buying a whole new system just for them
The first Switch had a unique form factor when it came out, now there are deck pcs that replicate it, even with detachable “joycons”. Unless you want to play a handful of exclusive titles there is really no reason to buy it, especially since the old switch will now drop in price.
Right, but again, you have choices in almost every piece of hardware.
Consoles lock you down a lot harder in this respect. You either but their hardware and possibly software, or you miss out on the whole thing.
And a lot of people, like a sibling of mine is just getting to the point of maturity where you figure out the brand you like is the bad guy and you don’t want to give them money anymore, but you sorely miss the product itself.
Given how hard they’re locked in, it’s really hard for them to jump to a new platform. Not quite as bad as switching from Android to or from iPhone, but not super far off.
Personally I jumped out completely before I got invested in a digital console store, so I didn’t have that problem. But the point is that they gotta completely start a new collection and paradigm.
Whereas if you one day have a huge problem with let’s say, Steam, you can just opt to never buy from them again without losing access to your library, no matter what hardware you’re running it on.
You can choose to never buy an Acer monitor, CoolerMaster PSU, or (insert other random examples) while still having a computer.
I mean it’s impossible to really find “good” companies, but you can at least pick your lines in the sand with a lot more granularity than just consoles.
It’s not perfect, but is still better than the big 3.
Plus no matter where you land with your choices, you will still have the same library.
I’m a ps player mainly because I got the PS1 to replace my Saturn and haven’t had many bad experiences with Sony so far, but I’m definitely looking forward to the upcoming stream machines and will probably get a Steam Deck sometime soon.
I bought a Switch day 1, I bought a Switch Lite day 1, there are 2 other Switches in our family… there’s no way in hell I’m ever getting a Switch 2 or any other product Nintendo makes.
Well… while the price of the Switch 2 certainly causes sticker shock, when you adjust for inflation it’s only about as expensive as the SNES was at launch… and is in fact cheaper then the NES was at launch. However, in the PS3’s case when adjusted for inflation it was about 1.5 times as expensive as the SNES at launch (for the 20 gb version, the 60 gb was double).
I would think what you can get today from a competitor for the same price or less is much more would be much more relevant than anything that occurred 40 years ago
This tired old argument completely ignores the fact that consumer purchasing power was much higher back then. Everything costs a higher portion of our paychecks now, especially housing, healthcare, and education.
Isn’t the Switch 2 is cheaper in today’s money than the PS3 was without a decade of inflation?
Edit: PS3 was 600€, adjusted for inflation (by some random online calculator) that’s about 900 today. So yeah, the Switch 2 is about 60% as expensive as the PS3 was.
Inflation is the measure of how much buying power your money is worth. Wage stagnation is wages not keeping up with inflation. They are not the same thing.
Wage stagnation isn’t a result of inflation because inflation happens first. So yeah when working out the equivalent price of a product inflation needs to be taken into account but so does how much money everybody has.
If $1 in 2005 is worth $15 today, but I still only get $6 an hour then it isn’t correct to say that a product that cost $15 today is effectively the same as a product costing $1 in 2005 because it’s not taken into the fact that I don’t get more money.
It’s early and there aren’t a lot of heavy hitters yet. But for me, Kirby Air Riders alone was well worth it, I waited 22 years for this sequel and it delivered.
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I was a Nintendo kid growing up, so I’m biased. But I can’t even defend them anymore. Their uncompetitive prices and anti-consumer practices are completely out-of-touch. I hope they either start listening to their fans, or go away and allow their games to be sold on other platforms…
I’ve been having a fantastic time with mine. Kirby Air Riders is an excellent sequel to one of my favorite childhood games. Cyberpunk went on an accidental super sale and I was able to get the complete edition for $17 USD. Fortnite doesn’t run like dogshit anymore. The console feels more sturdy and premium compared to Switch 1. An extra charging port on the top makes extended tabletop play possible now.
However I’ll always welcome headlines like this because the more Nintendo struggles, the better they get. Wii Sports was incredible and everyone had it. Switch 2 Welcome Tour should have never been a paid game and none of my S2 friends own it.
LOVE this take. I’m with kinkles.
Fuck Nintendo
I didn’t get one because it’s too expensive.
Steam deck was a little pricey but it has a backlog of games going back like 50 years, and I already have a large library. Plus the games are cheaper.
The main thing holding me back is the fact that it doesn’t have an OLED display. With the price hike between the original and 2, in my opinion it should’ve launched with an OLED as standard. When even cheap phones come with it, Nintendo has no excuse not to include one.
And the game prices also aren’t helping, I imagine. Not when the games themselves are lacklustre as well. The new Mario Kart should’ve been a system seller. But the people I know who own it, have reverted back to playing the previous version. That’s a baaaad look.
I’ll likely buy the Switch 2 when they launch an OLED and release a new Animal Crossing.
They do have an excuse.
they are banking on 10 and under nagging on thier parents to buy the game cosole, they may only play few times a year. this was pretty much the craze of YUGIOH cards early 2000s, and pokemon in that same time period.
I bought one during black Friday. I’m not a big fan though.
I mean, what is even there to play that you can’t play on Switch 1?
New Mario Kart? Donkey Kong whatever?
I’m sure they’re good games, I just don’t see someone who already owns a Switch buying a whole new system just for them
The first Switch had a unique form factor when it came out, now there are deck pcs that replicate it, even with detachable “joycons”. Unless you want to play a handful of exclusive titles there is really no reason to buy it, especially since the old switch will now drop in price.
I hope they struggle the company underground.
The unwashed console plebs can join the gamers with the Steam Machine/Deck and see what gaming is supposed to be like.
There’s still shitty stuff happening, but you’re a lot less beholden to specific companies over here.
There’s only two CPU companies that often inflate their prices. There’s 3 but really only 2 GPU companies that also often inflate prices.
Let’s not talk about RAM.
Also, don’t forget the multiple price fixing lawsuits that got a lot of attention.
You might not like consoles but the PC world is more overpriced and just as predatory as the console market. It’s just businesses being greedy.
Right, but again, you have choices in almost every piece of hardware.
Consoles lock you down a lot harder in this respect. You either but their hardware and possibly software, or you miss out on the whole thing.
And a lot of people, like a sibling of mine is just getting to the point of maturity where you figure out the brand you like is the bad guy and you don’t want to give them money anymore, but you sorely miss the product itself.
Given how hard they’re locked in, it’s really hard for them to jump to a new platform. Not quite as bad as switching from Android to or from iPhone, but not super far off.
Personally I jumped out completely before I got invested in a digital console store, so I didn’t have that problem. But the point is that they gotta completely start a new collection and paradigm.
Whereas if you one day have a huge problem with let’s say, Steam, you can just opt to never buy from them again without losing access to your library, no matter what hardware you’re running it on.
You can choose to never buy an Acer monitor, CoolerMaster PSU, or (insert other random examples) while still having a computer.
I mean it’s impossible to really find “good” companies, but you can at least pick your lines in the sand with a lot more granularity than just consoles.
It’s not perfect, but is still better than the big 3.
Plus no matter where you land with your choices, you will still have the same library.
I’m a ps player mainly because I got the PS1 to replace my Saturn and haven’t had many bad experiences with Sony so far, but I’m definitely looking forward to the upcoming stream machines and will probably get a Steam Deck sometime soon.
This is my shocked face: 😑
I bought a Switch day 1, I bought a Switch Lite day 1, there are 2 other Switches in our family… there’s no way in hell I’m ever getting a Switch 2 or any other product Nintendo makes.
nintendo is having its PS3 moment
a comically overpriced console with few interesting exclusives made by an arrogant company high on the success of its predecessor
Well… while the price of the Switch 2 certainly causes sticker shock, when you adjust for inflation it’s only about as expensive as the SNES was at launch… and is in fact cheaper then the NES was at launch. However, in the PS3’s case when adjusted for inflation it was about 1.5 times as expensive as the SNES at launch (for the 20 gb version, the 60 gb was double).
I would think what you can get today from a competitor for the same price or less is much more would be much more relevant than anything that occurred 40 years ago
(yes, the NES is 40 years old)
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This tired old argument completely ignores the fact that consumer purchasing power was much higher back then. Everything costs a higher portion of our paychecks now, especially housing, healthcare, and education.
Isn’t the Switch 2 is cheaper in today’s money than the PS3 was without a decade of inflation?
Edit: PS3 was 600€, adjusted for inflation (by some random online calculator) that’s about 900 today. So yeah, the Switch 2 is about 60% as expensive as the PS3 was.
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“How relevant is inflation, considering there is so much inflation that…”
Inflation is the measure of how much buying power your money is worth. Wage stagnation is wages not keeping up with inflation. They are not the same thing.
Wage stagnation isn’t a result of inflation because inflation happens first. So yeah when working out the equivalent price of a product inflation needs to be taken into account but so does how much money everybody has.
If $1 in 2005 is worth $15 today, but I still only get $6 an hour then it isn’t correct to say that a product that cost $15 today is effectively the same as a product costing $1 in 2005 because it’s not taken into the fact that I don’t get more money.
When I got my PS3 as a gift, I thought it was beautiful in its time, but no, it’s like the Switch 2 xD
Don’t forget that rents their old games back to you, which is why they’re so against emulation.
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It’s early and there aren’t a lot of heavy hitters yet. But for me, Kirby Air Riders alone was well worth it, I waited 22 years for this sequel and it delivered.
Man that game is tempting me to try to find a switch 2. I really want to play it but that’s such s hefty price.
When can we own it ourself and mod it?