Consumers are revolting against payment processors who seek to ban adult-themed Steam games, movies, and art. A Change.org petition aimed at Visa and Mastercard is rapidly gaining support. Its organizers also wish to limit the power of activist groups that influence these companies.
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So its games with ‘mature content’…so is the Dark Souls and GTA series being removed?

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change.org is worthless call the CC companies directly

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Why not both?

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Because change.org will keep relentlessly spamming you and selling your info for years and years and years regardless of opt-outs.

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Change.org is a for profit company with no government attachment what so ever. Signing a pettition there is only handing dipshit capitalists your personal info to sell.

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People are doing that too, there was just an article posted a bit ago talking about that.

Causing multi hour waits with the goal of hurting them by delaying actual customers getting help

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Found the post https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/520460

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I am an actual customer and these are real complaints.

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Imagine if you could do 2 separate 5-minute tasks to pressure giant corporations.

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“rOaRs”

Give me a fucking break.

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It’s past 178k now.

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ACLU is legit enough for me to believe this petition is worth signing.

https://action.aclu.org/petition/mastercard-sex-work-work-end-your-unjust-policy

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Remember, that’s not enough. Call these demon companies yourself and your representative.

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Call the companies, yourself and your representative?

I couldn’t get through to any of them 😟

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100% a change.org petition makes news which is useful but won’t otherwise do anything. What you need to do to back that up is cost Visa/Mastercard money, and the way to do that is to call them and tell their ethics teams that what they’re doing is deeply wrong.

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Seems like this petition is getting faster traction.

Someone write down “Stop Killing Porn Games” for the future.

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This is not about porn. Period. Its about censorship and free speech. SMH.

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Don’t let PirateSoftware find out about this one

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Could you please provide context or a link?

I don’t like him, but I think it has to do with him being pro-killing games and pro-multi-million-dollar-company?

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Basically. He spoke out against the Stop Killing Games movement, saying it wouldn’t be feasible for companies to support games in perpetuity… Which wasn’t the point of SKG. But PirateSoftware has a massive following and has the classic reddit “if I sound well-informed and speak with confidence, it doesn’t matter if I’m correct” mentality. It was many people’s first time hearing about SKG, so the confident misinformation turned a lot of his followers away from the movement.

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Sheeesh Talk about a brain washed guy who worked at blizzard

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It’s just a change.org petition though, in the end it doesn’t have much power to it. Even if it gets to 1mil. signatures, Mastercard and Visa could just go “Alright, use another payment processor then”

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And if they say that, then we will indeed switch where we’re able. Simple as

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…to who exactly?

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Think I saw another user suggest amex? Idk what it is, but maybe look into that?

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Pretty sure that’s American Express.

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Someone who isn’t Visa or MasterCard, like Discover or American Express. I myself will be getting a Discover card if this doesn’t resolve soon, and have said as much to Visa.

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Dude am I the only one who is glad this s*** is off steam? I grew up on Steam back when it only had Half Life on it, and it makes me sad that they devolved into literally Rape Games and other demented content. Are we all just going to pretend this isn’t or wasn’t an issue? The last thing our society needs is “more porn”. This is the type of s**** we should be fighting against and I say that as a man who on a dark and stormy night pulls up some inappropriate content.

As if there are not enough places to get porn on the internet.

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The problem isn’t what the content was, the problem is letting a payment processor dictate what is and is not acceptable even when legal

Today it’s “rape content” tomorrow, it’s vanilla porn, then the day after it’s LGBTQ+ affirmative content

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Itch.io already went and hid all adult content afaik, so we are already past the first stage even.

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They even removed games like Mouthwashing so we’re already at step 3 basically

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Much like the adult section of the movie rental place, or the romance section at the book store, or the sex toy section at Walmart, you are free to not browse the content you are uninterested in.

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They’re after those places next.

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PayPal just announced they’ll be offering crypto payments worldwide. They’ll be offering common wallet integration for 100+ currencies. This is how we sidestep Visa and Mastercard.

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PayPal is part of the problem though. They too have forced Patreon back in the day to clamp down on certain stuff. That’s one of the reasons why SubscribeStar got bigger.

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That’s bad, but they aren’t part of this recent censorship. If you demand a perfect solution you will be disappointed. Let’s be pragmatic. Let’s force these companies to compete for our patronage.

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The activists trying to change MasterCard and visas policies dont want those companies to be influenced by activists?

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We consumer activists don’t want to have choice taken away by a comparatively small group who seems to be misrepresenting the issue and dictating the choices of consumers. The activism itself is not the problem.

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Thats fair. I mostly agree but I dont have any good arguments to defend porn games themselves. Seems to depend on whether someone views porn positively or not.

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For context, I’ve never played a porn game nor do I have any interest in doing so. As others have said, it sets a very dangerous precedent for censorship via payment processors.

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Its literally their business who they do business with.

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Yes you are so much smarter than everyone else.

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You have awful reading comprehension.

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It would be nice if companies accepted regional payment options, for example, Canada has Interac e-transfer to easily transfer funds from one bank account to another, local businesses in Canada have offered this as an option for payment but anything international it’s either PayPal or CC.

Interac E-transfer is so simple to use and definitely beats having to use third-party apps like Venmo and CashApp.

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It makes no sense for any country to give American companies money for the pleasure of processing their own internal payments.

Most do, Steam accepts a fair few regional ones like the Dutch iDEAL. But it barely matters if a lot of people pay with Visa/MasterCard instead.

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Do you have to somehow enable them? There is a common standard for paying directly from your online bank here in Finland, but Steam doesn’t seem to support it.

Might depend on the market. The Finnish market is not even a third of the Dutch market, so perhaps it’s just a business decision whether they support it or not. They do support iDEAL without needing to enable anything.

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