This was another, though, that launched with a bunch of bugs on pc. And while I didn’t run into a ton on PS5, the game crashed for me here or there. And that sucks.
But I played and beat this game. And I quite enjoyed it. But I wouldn’t say it’s a masterpiece or anything.
It‘s no brand thing. It‘s just a reaction on the way Ubisoft releases games these days and yes, the game could have been better but without the Star Wars-tag, it wouldn‘t have been noticed at all.
Agree. I played the shit out of this game and it was good. But it could have been so much better. All the ships and weapons and planets in the star wars universe and we get 1 ship and 1 weapon and 4 meh planets. So many missed opportunities that could have made this game great.
Are we really still pushing this narrative in late 2025? Andor is a modern star wars show that has diverse characters and a queen relationship and had little to no backlash because of it. Just because you like an objectively bad show doesn’t mean that everyone else that didn’t like it are suddenly racist/ sexist/ misogynistic/ whatever other term you have for trying to justify why you like the show.
You are allowed to like bad content, I don’t think there’s a single person out there that doesn’t have at least one thing that they know is bad but still enjoy the only difference is that they’re not angry at other people for not liking it too.
Oh please, I doubt a loud minority of people on twitter is going to make a show flop if it was actually good. What was said about the Acolyte that was bigoted?
Seriously? No examples? This is just an article claiming that there where racist and misogynistic comments without any screenshot or quotations of any of them. Not even bleeped out videos that they claim existed. It feels like it’s a pr stunt because they knew it would be a bad show. Again, why hasn’t Andor received the same hate? It has diverse characters and the lead actor is Mexican.
this is nothing new, yet clearly it isn’t stopping execs from (rightfully) casting diverse actors. they aren’t cancelling a $200m mediocre show because of a few noisy bigots.
Yeah I think in this case the few noisy ones managed to create an atmosphere online early on where people assumed the series was bad and gave up on it - causing low numbers for the episodes that followed.
That’s probably an aspect, but likely there weren’t enough people talking about it because most who did though it was mediocre at best.
For a franchise this popular, a few noisy bigots won’t stop people from seeing it. If anything, it draws more attention to the show. You can see this with shows that are actually good.
I don’t think Acolyte failed due to racist misogynists. I think it had to do with over saturation and a story that wasn’t that interesting. There’s around 50 Star Wars titles on Disney+ now (7 live-action shows), and its almost a burden to watch them now like how Marvel movies/shows are. And people loved Asoka enough that its getting a season 2 and it had a vocal minority complain its main characters were all women, too. But it was a well written show.
Marvel is the best example of how Disney ruins things by over-saturating. There are over 50 Marvel movies and over 30 Marvel TV shows. Most are garbage and exist solely to advertise/push the next multi-billion dollar movie. They need to slow the hell down and just make decent content.
I love Star Wars and usually have a half decent time with Ubi games. You can usually pick them up for 50% off physical like a month after release.
I have never put down a game quicker than Outlaws. It’s Ubisoft open world map icon slop at its worst. The first 4 hours of story are boring and repetitive. Every mission was “sneak into an Imperial base, oh shit something went wrong! Now escape!” Progression and abilities might as well not be there.
Interest in SW isn’t waning. Companies keep making bad SW content.
I thought it did a good job at capturing the Star Wars feel, but yeah it feels like every open world game. Lots of fetch quests and running around in a massive world where every encounter/quest/battle feels the same as the last.
It may just be me, but most open world games suffer from trying to be too large. Although I think BOTW and TOTK are some of the weakest Zelda games, so maybe my opinions on open world games aren’t popular.
Even if it was good, the formula you mentioned has been done to death. Every game they make is that. Then they say how can we possibly make an RDR2 level game, and I think to that and there was a game where honestly the gameplay was pretty repetitive - but you don’t notice because the story is so good that of course you want to keep going.
But they make these bland corporate characters with boring stories and take absolutely zero risks because what if we offend one person in Ohio - and then it sells like crap. You try to make it for everyone, you made it for no one
If they would’ve stuck with the old ‘gritty’ Star Wars game that was supposed to be like GTA style adult oriented Star Wars instead of this stupid shit. It would have been massively successful.
Just started watching Star Trek and so far watched Picard, Strange New Worlds and the one with the black chick as the main character and holy fuck is star trek a waaaay better story and franchise than star wars. Star wars fuckin sucks.
Wait until you get to the real Star Trek, the actual good ones. Next Generation, DS9, Voyager, etc. Whatever they’re making now is literally garbage compared to what they used to make.
But to be fair, that is exactly the same case as Star Wars. Used to be pretty good, now Disney has run it into the floor.
I’m struggling to get my head around someone who just got into Star Trek starting with Picard.
I mean, fine - if you enjoyed it that’s great! But it’s a show explicitly about exploring the later life of a franchise figurehead. If you didn’t watch any of the earlier series or movies first you’re missing 90%+ of the context for what’s happening, surely?
There is a waning interest, but it wasn’t the singular reason the game flopped. It’s because it was a painfully mediocre game at an extremely inflated price.
Mass-produced corporate sludge like Outlaws is exactly why interest is waning. It sucks the soul out of the franchise and makes people lose interest.
Did Guillemot not hear about Andor? The costs of a Disney Plus subscription vs a $70 game aside, that show respected the viewer’s time and intelligence in all the ways Outlaws didn’t. But I’m not surprised the heads of Ubisoft lack basic retrospection. Regurgitating past successes is all they know how to do, and how could they be wrong? Must be the rest of the world. :/
The game looked quite generic to me. As someone who’s not deep into Star Wars, the titular character looked more like 70s mom than space adventure. And the gameplay also looked like they just slapped yet another texture pack onto something I’ve seen a thousand times already.
So, I don’t see why you’d buy this game in particular, unless you do a lot of gaming or a lot of Star Wars. I imagine, they missed out on most sales towards the more casual crowd.
It feels like they tried to make a PG/kids version of Red Dead Redemption with aliens, poorly written characters and a glitch-infested game engine as cheap as legally possible without being called slave labor.
This statement in the same week as Yves installs his son as Co-CEO in charge of their biggest franchises. A man who entered the industry as a CEO of a mobile company and then founded a AI/NFT/crypto game company that is being liquidated now.
Pure nepotism. The Guillemont family is the parasite that is killing Ubisoft.
I don’t know how it has taken people so long to realize something I realized around AssCreed3, that all Ubisoft does is release the same game with a different skin over and over again.
If you stopped playing after 3, and who could blame you, than you did miss out on Black Flag which was probably the high point of the series. But your general point still stands, Black Flag is kind of the exception that proves the rule.
Honestly I only played the first one, but I do know that Black Flag is the most loved one. However when I say what I say it is not just about assassins creed, the observation which at that point was rather obvious for me was that ever Ubisoft franchise was more or less following the same template and it has only gotten worse.
Waning interest in Ubisoft. Everything they touch is painfully generic and uninteresting. On top of that, they infect the games with malware while charging top dollar. But sure, blame the consumers for your lack of vision, passion, business sense, and technical acumen. See how that pays off, Yves.
It’s really sad. I truly believe that Yves (or rather the Guillemots in general) were passionate about game development once. Now it feels mostly corporate, even though they still claim to be pro-gamer and innovative and fun. It’s double sad because they acquired quite some good studios that have to be shaped into their corp structure and ultimately lose their innovation. It’s not as bad as old-school EA, but it’s still subjectively bad.
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I actually really liked this game.
This was another, though, that launched with a bunch of bugs on pc. And while I didn’t run into a ton on PS5, the game crashed for me here or there. And that sucks.
But I played and beat this game. And I quite enjoyed it. But I wouldn’t say it’s a masterpiece or anything.
It‘s no brand thing. It‘s just a reaction on the way Ubisoft releases games these days and yes, the game could have been better but without the Star Wars-tag, it wouldn‘t have been noticed at all.
Agree. I played the shit out of this game and it was good. But it could have been so much better. All the ships and weapons and planets in the star wars universe and we get 1 ship and 1 weapon and 4 meh planets. So many missed opportunities that could have made this game great.
💯! Alone KOTOR 1 and 2 in a remastered version would be something worth dying for - never stop dreaming! 🙏🏻
I loved the acolyte and was sad to hear it was cancelled. Jason Mendoza, a badass sith? Sign me up!
Agree. Racist misogynists ruining the fun for everyone. As usual.
I enjoy Andor, but the acolyte went in a direction that was just so juicy to me. I can’t get enough of alternative approaches to the force!
EDIT: Ok, I remembered the witch singing… It wasn’t perfect. But still, I was hooked so hard.
all of SW isn’t perfect. it fit right in! XD
Are we really still pushing this narrative in late 2025? Andor is a modern star wars show that has diverse characters and a queen relationship and had little to no backlash because of it. Just because you like an objectively bad show doesn’t mean that everyone else that didn’t like it are suddenly racist/ sexist/ misogynistic/ whatever other term you have for trying to justify why you like the show.
You are allowed to like bad content, I don’t think there’s a single person out there that doesn’t have at least one thing that they know is bad but still enjoy the only difference is that they’re not angry at other people for not liking it too.
Why is it important for you to claim that the well documented racism and misogyni that started well before the show premiered didn’t exist?
Oh please, I doubt a loud minority of people on twitter is going to make a show flop if it was actually good. What was said about the Acolyte that was bigoted?
https://en.as.com/meristation/news/star-wars-the-acolyte-has-been-critically-bombed-and-the-reason-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-quality-of-the-series-n/
Seriously? No examples? This is just an article claiming that there where racist and misogynistic comments without any screenshot or quotations of any of them. Not even bleeped out videos that they claim existed. It feels like it’s a pr stunt because they knew it would be a bad show. Again, why hasn’t Andor received the same hate? It has diverse characters and the lead actor is Mexican.
It’s very important to you that the claims about racism and misogyni aren’t true, correct? Why?
How big is this conspiracy of yours?
https://medium.com/@sakamper/sexism-and-racism-among-star-wars-fans-aefb5dd32ca6
Or, perhaps a lot of people just didn’t think it was a very good show.
Could be - or, you know, all that documented racist misogyni.
https://en.as.com/meristation/news/star-wars-the-acolyte-has-been-critically-bombed-and-the-reason-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-quality-of-the-series-n/
this is nothing new, yet clearly it isn’t stopping execs from (rightfully) casting diverse actors. they aren’t cancelling a $200m mediocre show because of a few noisy bigots.
Yeah I think in this case the few noisy ones managed to create an atmosphere online early on where people assumed the series was bad and gave up on it - causing low numbers for the episodes that followed.
That’s probably an aspect, but likely there weren’t enough people talking about it because most who did though it was mediocre at best.
For a franchise this popular, a few noisy bigots won’t stop people from seeing it. If anything, it draws more attention to the show. You can see this with shows that are actually good.
I don’t think Acolyte failed due to racist misogynists. I think it had to do with over saturation and a story that wasn’t that interesting. There’s around 50 Star Wars titles on Disney+ now (7 live-action shows), and its almost a burden to watch them now like how Marvel movies/shows are. And people loved Asoka enough that its getting a season 2 and it had a vocal minority complain its main characters were all women, too. But it was a well written show.
Marvel is the best example of how Disney ruins things by over-saturating. There are over 50 Marvel movies and over 30 Marvel TV shows. Most are garbage and exist solely to advertise/push the next multi-billion dollar movie. They need to slow the hell down and just make decent content.
No, it just wasn’t a very good show
omg yes! i’m SO pissed it’s not being followed up on.
tighten up the reins if it’s a money issue, but omg it was a great exploration of Force traditions in a cool new era!
uuuggghhhh
Wasn’t it more that the game was a buggy mess? No that can’t have been it it was clearly the fans fault.
I love Star Wars and usually have a half decent time with Ubi games. You can usually pick them up for 50% off physical like a month after release.
I have never put down a game quicker than Outlaws. It’s Ubisoft open world map icon slop at its worst. The first 4 hours of story are boring and repetitive. Every mission was “sneak into an Imperial base, oh shit something went wrong! Now escape!” Progression and abilities might as well not be there.
Interest in SW isn’t waning. Companies keep making bad SW content.
I thought it did a good job at capturing the Star Wars feel, but yeah it feels like every open world game. Lots of fetch quests and running around in a massive world where every encounter/quest/battle feels the same as the last.
It may just be me, but most open world games suffer from trying to be too large. Although I think BOTW and TOTK are some of the weakest Zelda games, so maybe my opinions on open world games aren’t popular.
Even if it was good, the formula you mentioned has been done to death. Every game they make is that. Then they say how can we possibly make an RDR2 level game, and I think to that and there was a game where honestly the gameplay was pretty repetitive - but you don’t notice because the story is so good that of course you want to keep going.
But they make these bland corporate characters with boring stories and take absolutely zero risks because what if we offend one person in Ohio - and then it sells like crap. You try to make it for everyone, you made it for no one
A) And yet, not long after, Andor was massively successful.
B) Then stop making games exclusively based off of third party IPs.
Andor was awesome in addition to being successful. It feels weird when those two things coincide.
If they would’ve stuck with the old ‘gritty’ Star Wars game that was supposed to be like GTA style adult oriented Star Wars instead of this stupid shit. It would have been massively successful.
Star wars should be in the public domain by now
Just started watching Star Trek and so far watched Picard, Strange New Worlds and the one with the black chick as the main character and holy fuck is star trek a waaaay better story and franchise than star wars. Star wars fuckin sucks.
Wait until you get to the real Star Trek, the actual good ones. Next Generation, DS9, Voyager, etc. Whatever they’re making now is literally garbage compared to what they used to make.
But to be fair, that is exactly the same case as Star Wars. Used to be pretty good, now Disney has run it into the floor.
Hahahaha theyre all fuckin trash. I tried watching the old shit and its all straight up garbage.
I’m struggling to get my head around someone who just got into Star Trek starting with Picard.
I mean, fine - if you enjoyed it that’s great! But it’s a show explicitly about exploring the later life of a franchise figurehead. If you didn’t watch any of the earlier series or movies first you’re missing 90%+ of the context for what’s happening, surely?
There is a waning interest, but it wasn’t the singular reason the game flopped. It’s because it was a painfully mediocre game at an extremely inflated price.
Mass-produced corporate sludge like Outlaws is exactly why interest is waning. It sucks the soul out of the franchise and makes people lose interest.
Did Guillemot not hear about Andor? The costs of a Disney Plus subscription vs a $70 game aside, that show respected the viewer’s time and intelligence in all the ways Outlaws didn’t. But I’m not surprised the heads of Ubisoft lack basic retrospection. Regurgitating past successes is all they know how to do, and how could they be wrong? Must be the rest of the world. :/
The game looked quite generic to me. As someone who’s not deep into Star Wars, the titular character looked more like 70s mom than space adventure. And the gameplay also looked like they just slapped yet another texture pack onto something I’ve seen a thousand times already.
So, I don’t see why you’d buy this game in particular, unless you do a lot of gaming or a lot of Star Wars. I imagine, they missed out on most sales towards the more casual crowd.
It feels like they tried to make a PG/kids version of Red Dead Redemption with aliens, poorly written characters and a glitch-infested game engine as cheap as legally possible without being called slave labor.
So more like star wars inlaws than outlaws?
This statement in the same week as Yves installs his son as Co-CEO in charge of their biggest franchises. A man who entered the industry as a CEO of a mobile company and then founded a AI/NFT/crypto game company that is being liquidated now.
Pure nepotism. The Guillemont family is the parasite that is killing Ubisoft.
It’s almost like if I’m constantly fed slop I avoid it
Not waning interest in Ubisoft?
Because, ooh boy, did my interest in Ubisoft wane year after year of overproduced cookie cutter crap. And I’m not expecting a change of phase.
Also, Guillemot, you’re talking publicly a lot for someone with (now convicted) sexual harrasser friends you’ve protected all of your career.
I don’t know how it has taken people so long to realize something I realized around AssCreed3, that all Ubisoft does is release the same game with a different skin over and over again.
If you stopped playing after 3, and who could blame you, than you did miss out on Black Flag which was probably the high point of the series. But your general point still stands, Black Flag is kind of the exception that proves the rule.
Honestly I only played the first one, but I do know that Black Flag is the most loved one. However when I say what I say it is not just about assassins creed, the observation which at that point was rather obvious for me was that ever Ubisoft franchise was more or less following the same template and it has only gotten worse.
Even Call Of Duty tends to introduce new mechanics in each version.
Waning interest in Ubisoft. Everything they touch is painfully generic and uninteresting. On top of that, they infect the games with malware while charging top dollar. But sure, blame the consumers for your lack of vision, passion, business sense, and technical acumen. See how that pays off, Yves.
It’s really sad. I truly believe that Yves (or rather the Guillemots in general) were passionate about game development once. Now it feels mostly corporate, even though they still claim to be pro-gamer and innovative and fun. It’s double sad because they acquired quite some good studios that have to be shaped into their corp structure and ultimately lose their innovation. It’s not as bad as old-school EA, but it’s still subjectively bad.