It’s likely not financially viable to have separate teams for their many products that all have similar features. Consolidating makes more sense because they can actually afford to maintain development.
Honestly, they should just roll YouTube Music into the default YouTube app, as well. And they probably will at some point. It just doesn’t make sense to have these services - which are basically all the same, functionally-speaking - spread out across multiple apps.
Honestly, they should just roll YouTube Music into the default YouTube app, as well.
I don’t think I could disagree more. I use both and listening to music and watching videos are entirely different activities for me and I want the apps to do different things in different ways.
My phone makes phone calls and browses the Internet. There are things that can do multiple things.
The use case is not different. There is already music on YouTube. I rarely watch YouTube but I listen to it a lot. You’re not actually upset about the new app, you’re excited to shit on a company with harmful practices and you’re grasping at any argument you can find.
No, I use both YouTube and YouTube music and they need different UIs and ways of navigating. While you could cram all of YouTube musics UI into a subsection of YouTube, it really doesn’t make sense to do so. I’m not just shitting on Google just because, I’m saying that the needs of music listening and YouTube video watching are different for many people.
Honestly sounds like you don’t even need youtube, just YouTube music if all you ever use it for is listening.
Google podcast is an awful app (also it was pretty expected that they will kill Google podcasts and replace it with YouTube music since that was hinted in the last few years)
Finally. That’s exactly what I expected. The app hasn’t been updated for years, they removed the Google podcast widget on the Google search and added a “Podcast” category to YouTube.
I use YTM exclusively for music streaming. The interface has been getting worse over time, but the podcasts integration is pure dogshit and they should be embarrassed. Basically it’s a subscription to a youtube channel in the back-end and they might add RSS support some day in the far future. Their only focus now is on allowing creators to add an RSS feed for ingestion, not for users to do the same.
This is a moronic idea, and Google is ruining one of their only good app experiences.
Navigating any playlists you created now requires clicking on the library at the bottom, then playlist at them top. I’m also a GPM refugee and the YouTube music app is a shit choice for podcasts.
Seriously. Fewer and fewer people are using Google as a search engine anyways. I know it’s miniscule, but people are aware of Duck Duck go, and aware of Google’s spy apparatus, hence why in any survey or poll they conduct they ask the user’s opinion on how well they think Google is doing with their private data. I always score them the lowest possible.
What we should be concerned with is how many websites and third party logins use Google.
@binarybomb@fne8w2ah A long time ago I used Pocketcasts which is very good but not open source.
FOSS options are AntennaPod or Podverse depending on your needs.
AntennaPod is very popular but Podverse is newer and rapidly developing and it includes a great web player. I’m using Podverse currently, which works with or without an account.
You could also use any RSS reader, and just use Podverse to search and find podcast feeds to subscribe to.
I second all of this. I started using AntennaPod a couple months ago and like it. It handles “chapters” in podcasts better, too. Searching is fiddly though.
You have various options to export the data. One of those exports subscriptions, listened episodes and queue to another device. I have used it several times and it works well.
It’s great and the main reason I first started using it. There is a database export and import option which transfers nearly everything. It transfers subscriptions, settings, history, etc. I think the only thing that doesn’t transfer is downloaded episodes.
For Android: It depends on your needs. For better user experience I’d say PocketCasts. For best customization Podcast Republic, Podcast Addict. AntennaPod was for a while the only open source project, PocketCasts is now open source too. If that matters to you, go with those. I like AntennaPod, specifically the sleep timer. However it has some downsides: discovery / search sucks and it’s hard to access the queue quickly if your phone uses gesture navigation.
Honestly I think YouTube music is finally at parity with Google music. I’d prefer some of the fluff to go away (e.g. the comments, samples, & podcasts) but overall it’s gotten much better.
I think you know the answer to that. That was a pretty spectacular feature that I never thought was going to last. Regardless of branding. Hopefully you uploaded your music and transferred it over to YouTube music before the deadline.
It is not an intuitive app to navigate. I would 100% rather have Google music but YouTube music isn’t as horrible as it used to be. That’s not a ringing endorsement but I’m glad it isn’t still a dumpster fire
You must not know many Android users then. Almost all the android users I know (like 90% of them) use spotify. And I think all the apple users I know use it.
The desktop apps suck but on mobile it’s the best music streaming service there is, imo. It has a few features I‘d like it to add but other services don’t have some key features that are much more important to me
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google
one app
does one thing
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why is this so hard to understand
It’s likely not financially viable to have separate teams for their many products that all have similar features. Consolidating makes more sense because they can actually afford to maintain development.
Honestly, they should just roll YouTube Music into the default YouTube app, as well. And they probably will at some point. It just doesn’t make sense to have these services - which are basically all the same, functionally-speaking - spread out across multiple apps.
I don’t think I could disagree more. I use both and listening to music and watching videos are entirely different activities for me and I want the apps to do different things in different ways.
Clearly Google doesn’t follow that logic because they have numerous competing chat apps. Even Google Maps has chat…
The UI and use case for a video platform and a music app are very, very different
My phone makes phone calls and browses the Internet. There are things that can do multiple things.
The use case is not different. There is already music on YouTube. I rarely watch YouTube but I listen to it a lot. You’re not actually upset about the new app, you’re excited to shit on a company with harmful practices and you’re grasping at any argument you can find.
No, I use both YouTube and YouTube music and they need different UIs and ways of navigating. While you could cram all of YouTube musics UI into a subsection of YouTube, it really doesn’t make sense to do so. I’m not just shitting on Google just because, I’m saying that the needs of music listening and YouTube video watching are different for many people.
Honestly sounds like you don’t even need youtube, just YouTube music if all you ever use it for is listening.
They “need” different UIs? Really you’ve never used an app or device that can do 2 things?
Come on, that’s obviously a silly opinion. You’re just grasping at straws and I don’t really understand why.
2 of the original big 4 for us podcast folks down! Stitcher what? A month ago?
Stitcher died?? I hadn’t even heard that news.
Yeah like 1-2mo ago. Very recent
Goad I never jumped onboard.
Podcast Addict for the win
In my case Pocket Casts, but yes.
Classic google. Add this to the Google app graveyard.
link to graveyard
That site has a bit of inflation to it.
Like, some of those things are just standalone apps that got merged into other products. Like Fitbit coach is now just part of the Fitbit app.
Oh man, Google surveys is dead? That stuff was useful for so many things, I’m legitimately saddened by its loss.
Are you mixing it up with Google Forms? I think most people would never have used surveys, whereas forms is pretty popular. And they sound the same.
Ohh whew. I definitely was.
I liked Google surveys when I had an Android phone. I did a survey here and there and it would pay for my Duolingo subscription
I think that’s google opinion rewards. Or at least Google opinion rewards is the same thing.
Oh yeah you’re right. In that case, I’m not surprised Surveys is dead. I had never heard of that one
Awww for fuck’s sake. Why do they always cancel the good apps???
Google podcast is an awful app (also it was pretty expected that they will kill Google podcasts and replace it with YouTube music since that was hinted in the last few years)
That’s your opinion. I really like that app.
Why? There are so many better podcast player out there
Such as?
edit: nvm the next comment string answered my question
Finally. That’s exactly what I expected. The app hasn’t been updated for years, they removed the Google podcast widget on the Google search and added a “Podcast” category to YouTube.
Hopefully it will be better for when it comes to Android Auto, as GPM is my go to in the car.
Such a shame
Such a bad idea. Podcasts seek forward and interface actually worked. Zero chance the migration to YouTube is smooth.
YTM interface is great. I don’t know if you’ve tried it, but YTM is different from the standard YouTube app.
I use YTM exclusively for music streaming. The interface has been getting worse over time, but the podcasts integration is pure dogshit and they should be embarrassed. Basically it’s a subscription to a youtube channel in the back-end and they might add RSS support some day in the far future. Their only focus now is on allowing creators to add an RSS feed for ingestion, not for users to do the same.
This is a moronic idea, and Google is ruining one of their only good app experiences.
What’s gotten worse? I’ve been using the app since GPM closed and have only noticed minor improvements.
Navigating any playlists you created now requires clicking on the library at the bottom, then playlist at them top. I’m also a GPM refugee and the YouTube music app is a shit choice for podcasts.
Oh boy, can’t wait for Youtube Mail and Youtube Maps next
it’ll all end with YouTube Search
I wish this were more implausible, but at this point I’m getting worried.
Seriously. Fewer and fewer people are using Google as a search engine anyways. I know it’s miniscule, but people are aware of Duck Duck go, and aware of Google’s spy apparatus, hence why in any survey or poll they conduct they ask the user’s opinion on how well they think Google is doing with their private data. I always score them the lowest possible.
What we should be concerned with is how many websites and third party logins use Google.
Youtube is basically their entertainment brand. So that really doesn’t make sense.
People are just resistant to change because the GPM to YTM transition sucked when they released a half baked app
Yeah I guess so. YTM sucked ass when it came out. But now I would say it’s better than Spotify.
Let’s just rename Google to Youtube and get it over with
Litetally no podcast app I’ve tried has a search feature a tenth as good. I use antenna pod but still kept google podcast for its search feature.
PocketCast?
Alternative recommendations?
AntennaPod on Android and Overcast on iOS have been my go-to options.
PodcastGuru. Sounds cheesy, but I really like it.
Pocket Casts
Try Antennapod
@binarybomb @fne8w2ah A long time ago I used Pocketcasts which is very good but not open source.
FOSS options are AntennaPod or Podverse depending on your needs.
AntennaPod is very popular but Podverse is newer and rapidly developing and it includes a great web player. I’m using Podverse currently, which works with or without an account.
You could also use any RSS reader, and just use Podverse to search and find podcast feeds to subscribe to.
Antenna pod.
I’ve been quite happy with antennapod. Discovery is kind of a pain in the ass, but it’s open source, and management and playback have been solid.
I second all of this. I started using AntennaPod a couple months ago and like it. It handles “chapters” in podcasts better, too. Searching is fiddly though.
How’s migration to a new phone? That’s what caused me to leave podcast addict, it was so bad.
You have various options to export the data. One of those exports subscriptions, listened episodes and queue to another device. I have used it several times and it works well.
It’s great and the main reason I first started using it. There is a database export and import option which transfers nearly everything. It transfers subscriptions, settings, history, etc. I think the only thing that doesn’t transfer is downloaded episodes.
What issues do you have with podcast addict? I just recently migrated to it and so far it seems fine
I’ve been migrating seamlessly for years using PA
I got a new phone, copying the data over was a terrible experience and ended up failing. Specifically, copying over downloaded podcasts.
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PocketCast is also OpenSource. Today I switched over and it’s also pretty good.
I honestly can’t really decide which one I find better. Try them out for yourself.
Biggest issue with pocket casts is it cannot deal with authenticated feeds.
I for example subscribed to Darknet Diaries on Patreon and the bonus episodes do work.
I don’t listen to more premium podcasts. I just hate that you can’t manually update the URL so far.
Also the “time listed” stats on AntennaPod are way superior, but PocketCats syncs between devices and has a web/desktop client.
yea, they did get patreon exclusive feeds working, but any other don’t.
I just don’t like that everything has to go through them.
used to be a big pocketcasts fan, but I dislike being completely dependent on their servers.
I like Podbean.
For Android: It depends on your needs. For better user experience I’d say PocketCasts. For best customization Podcast Republic, Podcast Addict. AntennaPod was for a while the only open source project, PocketCasts is now open source too. If that matters to you, go with those. I like AntennaPod, specifically the sleep timer. However it has some downsides: discovery / search sucks and it’s hard to access the queue quickly if your phone uses gesture navigation.
For iOS: pocket casts, overcast
Recently learned you can disable just the left back gesture. Amazing quality-of-life improvement.
Podcast Addict
@ocassionallyaduck @binarybomb Migration is migraine
It’s been super easy the two times I’ve done it.
Excellent app
I have never used it. Always used Podcast Addict for podcasts. Spotify made it all clunky
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I don’t know how anyone on Android uses Spotify. That app is such dogshit.
Also rip forever Google play music
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Honestly I think YouTube music is finally at parity with Google music. I’d prefer some of the fluff to go away (e.g. the comments, samples, & podcasts) but overall it’s gotten much better.
Can I upload my entire 600gb+ library to it for free and access it anywhere anytime?
Auto cache? Redownload so it acts as a backup?
I think you know the answer to that. That was a pretty spectacular feature that I never thought was going to last. Regardless of branding. Hopefully you uploaded your music and transferred it over to YouTube music before the deadline.
Yea I think all my music is on there, but the app is such garbage and unnavigable, I bought a 1tb micro SD card and said fuck that shit.
It is not an intuitive app to navigate. I would 100% rather have Google music but YouTube music isn’t as horrible as it used to be. That’s not a ringing endorsement but I’m glad it isn’t still a dumpster fire
Word I might check out out again.
You must not know many Android users then. Almost all the android users I know (like 90% of them) use spotify. And I think all the apple users I know use it.
I know many Android users who use it and I don’t know why. Apple music and Tidal music is better in every way.
The Spotify app is so bad it’s embarrassing.
So first you say you don’t know any Android users that use Spotify, now you’re saying you know many Android users that use Spotify… so which is it?
Naw dude learn to read. I said I don’t know how people use it. I didnt say I don’t know anyone.
Nice edit, bro.
Yeh it’s dogshit but so is apple music.
The desktop apps suck but on mobile it’s the best music streaming service there is, imo. It has a few features I‘d like it to add but other services don’t have some key features that are much more important to me
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Disagree. I’ve actually come to like YTM better than GPM over the years.
Sure, a video app makes much more sense for podcast delivery!
It’s mainly a music app. Videos can be enabled, but by default it’s off.
YouTube is the video app, not YTM.
They are mimicking Spotify. How they have music and podcasts built into one app.
Many podcasts have a video component, so it actually does if implemented correctly.
Honestly, podcasts on YouTube are better if you have sponsorblock