Not sure about hardcore Doom fans but the game looks uninteresting to me specifically. It’s like a polar opposite from Doom 2016 judging by all the videos I’ve seen. Don’t really care about the higher price, I’d get it if I liked it but it really doesn’t click for me.
Ive really not cared about the direction the story has been taking, and im not a huge fan of the newer atmosphere. 2016 felt like it still had horror elements, the demons felt dangerous and doomguy, while incredibly strong, still felt like vulnerable, especially with the custom death scenes. Now he has like this god aura around him, which is cool i guess, but him battling for survival will always be cooler to me than him being like a living god. Also the zero third person cutscenes will always be superior to me, even though i understand why others may not like it.
It doesn’t really matter if people stick around to play a single game, they’ll almost certainly explore other games and stick around for the service. That’s the idea I think they’re going for.
I’d be curious to see how many CoD players stuck around.
Honestly, Doom Eternal really soured me on the franchise. I loved the original Doom games, loved 3 and played the absolute shit out of Doom 2016.
Then Eternal turned into a fucking frustration fest with all its platforming. I still haven’t finished it. Now the new one reinvents Doom yet again. And there’s somehow dragons?
Man, I’m fucking done. Give me more of that 2016 Doom or don’t bother.
Good news then because Dark Ages is extremely different than Eternal and a lot of people who didn’t like that game but loved 2016 are happy with it. I’m not saying rush out and spend $70 on it, but give it a go when it’s on sale down the line and you might end up really pleased with it.
I also liked Doom 2016 and it worked well on Linux. I’m sad to hear that the later ones weren’t as good.
Do you know of any games similar to Doom 2016 that you’d recommend? I liked how it didn’t waste time trying to tell a story, usually I’d watch a movie or read a book if I want a good story. Doom had enjoyable steady action and I felt like I could enjoy it for half an hour at a time without needing much time to get into it.
I honestly don’t mind some story in games. Heck, I’ve got hundreds of hours in Skyrim and other RPG’s. Doom to me is run & gun. Doom 2016 had the perfect amount of story for a Doom game.
Honestly, I don’t think there’s anything else quite like it. If there is, I don’t know it. Most other shooters are either COD, SciFi, retro FPS or stuff like Borderlands that leans into comedy.
If this was ‘back in the day’, closest recommendation to it would likely be something like the Quake series. That’s id’s own successor to the original Doom. Sadly also long dead.
I’m on the same page as you re: Eternal. The first hour out so was fun, and the graphics are neat, but it stops feeling like a Doom game pretty quickly. It doesn’t even feel like a Quake game, which would at least be tolerable.
Will probably give this one a shot eventually when it’s on discount, but not in a hurry.
God I miss Quake. That was such a great series. Can you imagine what they could do with that on modern tech? I’d love to see a quake reboot a la 2016 Doom. That would be fucking awesome.
I agree. Unless they got very lucky I think the only way they could do Quake 5/2030/whatever is if they gave it the indie treatment, which as vassals of a giant publisher they are unable to do with an important IP.
I paid about £3.50 for Doom 2016 last week and around £12 for eternal, having not played a doom game since Doom 3’s launch. I’m enjoying the 2016 one and will look forward to Eternal in a week or 3 once I finish that. what I won’t do is pay £70 for a doom game.
I might consider a games for windows sub to get it that way, but that remains to be seen.
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I didn’t even look at it enough to know if I’d buy it otherwise when I saw it has denuvo. Always online DRM is a hard pass for me. I haven’t played the last 3 games Atlus released either and I’ve been playing almost every one since the ps2 era.
Bro I played almost everything they released on consoles and just didn’t even cross my mind to play it on PC cause , like you, been playing since PS1/2 and the only time I pick one up is if I see it on sale at a brick and mortar store or the marketplace. Shame about this intrusion of denuvo into such great franchises, that would honestly benefit from some privacy considering the SMT current niche audience.
I don‘t buy any digital copy of a game for over 45 bucks, doesn‘t matter what it is… I also haven‘t finished DOOM 2016 yet and haven‘t even started Eternal. Not because they‘re bad games or because I don‘t like FPSs, but because I have so much shit to play and so little time.
Competition is fierce and asking 80 bucks when I got the predecessors for less than 5 each is just not happening. Just because games cost more to produce doesn‘t magically make customers have more money and time. It‘ll make release weeks stinkers outside of your GOTYs and makes more people wait or go back to 20+ years worth of other games that aren‘t 80 bucks.
$20 is the limit for me. I’m perfectly fine waiting a few years to play the game, if it still exists by that point. If it doesn’t, then I’m glad I didn’t waste my time.
And another plus is that you get to play the games as bug free as they‘ll get AND at higher framerates assuming your hardware improved in the meantime. I certainly wouldn‘t have been able to get the high fidelity DOOM 2016 experience I can get now (at a high framerate) way back when it released.
Downside is that if there‘s any multiplayer component to a game, it‘s probably pretty damn dead years later. But first, I personally don‘t care much about that anymore and second, games bleed the majority of their playerbase within months anyway so it‘s whatever.
The only real criticism I have of the game is the price. I think it was a great single player experience, but I totally understand people balking at the $70 price tag.
It was fun, but I put it down once the credits rolled. Nothing inherently wrong with that; cramming a ton of completionist and weekly update content would not have made this a better game.
As much as I love the Doom games I’m not really a fan of the $70 price tag. The Doom games are great games but it’s not like they are in my top 5 favorite games or anything like that. I’ll wait for a sale.
For me anyway, my loss of interest in the DOOM franchise began when they started dehumanizing the Doom Marine and started stacking fantasy/medieval elements to the main protagonist and his arsenal. They turned a futuristic space marine who just got punished for punching an officer into some sort of fantastic demigod thing. It got really bad in Doom Eternal already.
I like my DOOM games when it is a battle of sci-fi military forces against demonic forces. Human technology versus the hordes of hell. But now with Dark Ages Bethesda turned the franchise into a more violent and edgy Skyrim.
from the gameplay I’ve watched so far it’s just been turned into a completely different game now. eternal was barely hanging on to the ethos of it, and now theres throwing blades and maces and shit? that’s not doom anymore.
Honestly I’d have been down for Doomguy turning into a literal demigod of demon murdering but I’d want his look to reflect it. Right now he’s in this weird position where he’s basically magic but they didn’t want to get rid of his look.
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Not sure about hardcore Doom fans but the game looks uninteresting to me specifically. It’s like a polar opposite from Doom 2016 judging by all the videos I’ve seen. Don’t really care about the higher price, I’d get it if I liked it but it really doesn’t click for me.
Would have been the perfect doom game if they didnt make it so every bout of combat ended in a whimper. Even the mech fights dont end gloriously.
Ive really not cared about the direction the story has been taking, and im not a huge fan of the newer atmosphere. 2016 felt like it still had horror elements, the demons felt dangerous and doomguy, while incredibly strong, still felt like vulnerable, especially with the custom death scenes. Now he has like this god aura around him, which is cool i guess, but him battling for survival will always be cooler to me than him being like a living god. Also the zero third person cutscenes will always be superior to me, even though i understand why others may not like it.
Yeah no shit. My battlenet launcher wanted $100 for it.
The reverse-Midas of Microsoft, whatever they buy turns to shit.
It has nothing to do with quality, most people played it on game pass instead of buying it.
How nice for Microsoft, I’m sure it’s a big success.
Game pass is a big success for them as far as anyone can tell.
They’ll undoubtedly retain all of the people who came to play Dreck Aegis, after all it’s state of the art and highly replayable, like any Doom game.
It doesn’t really matter if people stick around to play a single game, they’ll almost certainly explore other games and stick around for the service. That’s the idea I think they’re going for.
I’d be curious to see how many CoD players stuck around.
Honestly, Doom Eternal really soured me on the franchise. I loved the original Doom games, loved 3 and played the absolute shit out of Doom 2016.
Then Eternal turned into a fucking frustration fest with all its platforming. I still haven’t finished it. Now the new one reinvents Doom yet again. And there’s somehow dragons?
Man, I’m fucking done. Give me more of that 2016 Doom or don’t bother.
Good news then because Dark Ages is extremely different than Eternal and a lot of people who didn’t like that game but loved 2016 are happy with it. I’m not saying rush out and spend $70 on it, but give it a go when it’s on sale down the line and you might end up really pleased with it.
Eternal was too hard for me. Love Dark Ages.
I find TDA too messy compared to 2016 and none of the tight game design of Eternal. It is the worst of both previous games.
I also liked Doom 2016 and it worked well on Linux. I’m sad to hear that the later ones weren’t as good.
Do you know of any games similar to Doom 2016 that you’d recommend? I liked how it didn’t waste time trying to tell a story, usually I’d watch a movie or read a book if I want a good story. Doom had enjoyable steady action and I felt like I could enjoy it for half an hour at a time without needing much time to get into it.
I honestly don’t mind some story in games. Heck, I’ve got hundreds of hours in Skyrim and other RPG’s. Doom to me is run & gun. Doom 2016 had the perfect amount of story for a Doom game.
Honestly, I don’t think there’s anything else quite like it. If there is, I don’t know it. Most other shooters are either COD, SciFi, retro FPS or stuff like Borderlands that leans into comedy.
If this was ‘back in the day’, closest recommendation to it would likely be something like the Quake series. That’s id’s own successor to the original Doom. Sadly also long dead.
I’m on the same page as you re: Eternal. The first hour out so was fun, and the graphics are neat, but it stops feeling like a Doom game pretty quickly. It doesn’t even feel like a Quake game, which would at least be tolerable.
Will probably give this one a shot eventually when it’s on discount, but not in a hurry.
God I miss Quake. That was such a great series. Can you imagine what they could do with that on modern tech? I’d love to see a quake reboot a la 2016 Doom. That would be fucking awesome.
We can dream
Based on everything Ive seen… theyd ruin Quake too
I agree. Unless they got very lucky I think the only way they could do Quake 5/2030/whatever is if they gave it the indie treatment, which as vassals of a giant publisher they are unable to do with an important IP.
I recently replayed Quake ii + expansions, too, and it’s also its own joined of fun. Hunting for secrets never got old.
Yeah, I’d buy a DLC for 2016 right now but I doubt I’ll buy Dark Ages, at least not until it’s on sale.
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In the dark ages you can customise the difficulty to a great degree.
I paid about £3.50 for Doom 2016 last week and around £12 for eternal, having not played a doom game since Doom 3’s launch. I’m enjoying the 2016 one and will look forward to Eternal in a week or 3 once I finish that. what I won’t do is pay £70 for a doom game. I might consider a games for windows sub to get it that way, but that remains to be seen.
Game for windows sub? You mean Gamepass?
That’s the one, sorry, shows how much attention I’ve paid over the years since games for windows was a thing.
I just want id to do something else. Doom is fun and all but they’ve kinda perfected it.
Commander Keen remake when?
They tried in 2019.https://youtu.be/Znd0kUXpdts https://youtu.be/BpneMd8xTFw
For some reason they cancelled it after the gameplay trailer was released.
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!!!
Maybe leave it be.
Her name was Billie, daughter of the original Billy Blaze.
Luckily it was cancelled. Looks like the folks who played the original weren’t keen on playing a slow mobile cashgrab.
But the non-gameplay trailer was nice. https://youtu.be/BpneMd8xTFw
Expedition 33 kinda takes all my time.
I didn’t even look at it enough to know if I’d buy it otherwise when I saw it has denuvo. Always online DRM is a hard pass for me. I haven’t played the last 3 games Atlus released either and I’ve been playing almost every one since the ps2 era.
Bro I played almost everything they released on consoles and just didn’t even cross my mind to play it on PC cause , like you, been playing since PS1/2 and the only time I pick one up is if I see it on sale at a brick and mortar store or the marketplace. Shame about this intrusion of denuvo into such great franchises, that would honestly benefit from some privacy considering the SMT current niche audience.
There’s a video on YouTube called “Doom The Dark Ages Story Explained” but it’s a Doom game.
I don‘t buy any digital copy of a game for over 45 bucks, doesn‘t matter what it is… I also haven‘t finished DOOM 2016 yet and haven‘t even started Eternal. Not because they‘re bad games or because I don‘t like FPSs, but because I have so much shit to play and so little time.
Competition is fierce and asking 80 bucks when I got the predecessors for less than 5 each is just not happening. Just because games cost more to produce doesn‘t magically make customers have more money and time. It‘ll make release weeks stinkers outside of your GOTYs and makes more people wait or go back to 20+ years worth of other games that aren‘t 80 bucks.
$20 is the limit for me. I’m perfectly fine waiting a few years to play the game, if it still exists by that point. If it doesn’t, then I’m glad I didn’t waste my time.
And another plus is that you get to play the games as bug free as they‘ll get AND at higher framerates assuming your hardware improved in the meantime. I certainly wouldn‘t have been able to get the high fidelity DOOM 2016 experience I can get now (at a high framerate) way back when it released.
Downside is that if there‘s any multiplayer component to a game, it‘s probably pretty damn dead years later. But first, I personally don‘t care much about that anymore and second, games bleed the majority of their playerbase within months anyway so it‘s whatever.
Games cost more to produce but there’s more customers than ever
And its certainly not the developers who are getting all that extra money.
Amen.
The only real criticism I have of the game is the price. I think it was a great single player experience, but I totally understand people balking at the $70 price tag.
It was fun, but I put it down once the credits rolled. Nothing inherently wrong with that; cramming a ton of completionist and weekly update content would not have made this a better game.
Maybe I’m just old.
As much as I love the Doom games I’m not really a fan of the $70 price tag. The Doom games are great games but it’s not like they are in my top 5 favorite games or anything like that. I’ll wait for a sale.
I hope this shows companies that selling their games at 80 Euro is not the way to go.
For me anyway, my loss of interest in the DOOM franchise began when they started dehumanizing the Doom Marine and started stacking fantasy/medieval elements to the main protagonist and his arsenal. They turned a futuristic space marine who just got punished for punching an officer into some sort of fantastic demigod thing. It got really bad in Doom Eternal already.
I like my DOOM games when it is a battle of sci-fi military forces against demonic forces. Human technology versus the hordes of hell. But now with Dark Ages Bethesda turned the franchise into a more violent and edgy Skyrim.
When was the doomguy humanized?
from the gameplay I’ve watched so far it’s just been turned into a completely different game now. eternal was barely hanging on to the ethos of it, and now theres throwing blades and maces and shit? that’s not doom anymore.
Honestly I’d have been down for Doomguy turning into a literal demigod of demon murdering but I’d want his look to reflect it. Right now he’s in this weird position where he’s basically magic but they didn’t want to get rid of his look.