Just another reason to stop buying consoles. Imagine building or buying a pc for your OS to just be like, “No, we think you’re pirating something. We’re going to lock your system and make it entirely unusable. Enjoy your ~$1000 paperweight!”
If you think either Apple or Microsoft wouldn’t do that,.you’ve likely too young to know about “hackingtosh” computers or too nerdy to have read the windows 11 coverage.
That neither company would do it without a profit motive is a good argument to ban both from running “app stores”.
Hackintoshes have been around since the 80s and this has never happened.
In 2009-2012 Apple did levy a successful lawsuit against Psystar for doing this in a business environment. But they’ve never enforced bricking a consumer Hackintosh and I expect they never will.
Many of us don’t get a choice when it comes to work computers. I use a lot of software that is impossible to get on Windows or Linux. I despise Macs with a passion, but I’m forced to use them for certain aspects of my work. Because there literally isn’t an analogous program for Windows or Mac.
Same with my desk computer, which is a Windows laptop issued by the company’s IT department. Could I boot Linux on it from a USB drive? Probably. But why would I, when that could easily get me fired as soon as IT sees a random Linux machine trying to connect to their network?
Many of us don’t get a choice when it comes to work computers.
Then just switch to Linux on your personal computer. Seriously, it’s as if you saw that single “gotcha” argument and decided to repeat it with no thought whatsoever
Not at all. There are a lot of Lemmy users who act like using Windows/Mac for anything is a sin. The go-to advice whenever Microsoft progresses the enshittificafion is “lol I haven’t used Windows in [X] years. Just make the switch to Linux already.” And they act like ditching it is the only way to go. But the sad reality is that ditching Windows/Mac isn’t an option for many people who are roped into using it due to corporate policy or entrenched software.
Hell, I still have to use Windows XP fairly regularly for work. It’s an air gapped system that never touches the internet, but it is a program that is written in Flash… And it controls some of the most expensive gear that the company owns. Since Flash isn’t supported on modern OSes, the official vendor solution is to fucking ship a Windows XP machine.
I took down all the lan ports in our cube area connecting a raspberry pi to the network. I left network as static as I set it up and installed it into equipment where it won’t touch the network but the machine can talk to it, but then realized I needed some extra software. So I brought it out to my desk where I had set it up while it was set to dynamic and it caused the whole switch it was connected to to shut down. No one really seemed bothered when I went to get it fixed. Concerningly not bothered in fact.
Contrary to what Lemmy would like you to believe, some of us actually like using Windows. Is it annoying sometimes? Yes but Linux can also be really annoying and a pain. I’ve wasted days trying to get a GPU to show up properly among other smaller issues for work purposes. I’m not gonna even try to bother with it when I just want to get home and relax.
This is the kind of shit that makes me want to pirate nintendo’s games purely for the principle of the matter.
I have several reasons for not buying nintendo’s games, from their piss-poor customer service, to threatening content creators with litigation, to actually litigating indie competitors, to cease-and-desisting fanmade mods and games, and generally treating their most dedicated fans like shit.
If it were possible to legally buy nintendo games and directly download them to my pc to play on whatever emulator I wanted, even if nintendo offered zero support for it, that might be enough to convince me to be a paying customer again. But no, nintendo has to do shit like this instead. fuck nintendo.
EDIT: I’d like to add on to the part about the cease and desisting of fanmade things, Nintendo likes to do that when they’re planning on announcing their own game that these fan projects would be competition for. Project M was killed shortly before Ultimate’s announcement. AM2R was killed shortly before nintendo’s own Metroid 2 remake was announced. Pokemon Uranium was killed shortly before, well, one of the pokemon games was announced, I couldn’t tell you which one since I stopped caring after gen 3. I’m sure there’s more that I don’t remember off the top of my head.
I’d love to see Nintendo try this in Norway! Completely and wholly illegal consumer practice. It’s incredibly hostile and would only work in countries where corporations have stronger rights than humans.
If it wasn’t for “piracy” (volunteers lovingly preserving and modding their games and consoles and sharing their work for free) most people would’ve left and forgotten about Nintendo years ago. Their products would have been remembered just like those old, abandoned songs you never hear on any streaming service anymore, then sometimes think about and never bother to find because “it’s so X0’s” anyway.
Most of these companies owe modders and “pirates” the fact that they’re so happily earning so much in this golden era of remasters and remakes.
As an EU citizen, thats laughable. German police was very recently beating up women in a pro-palestine protest, and there are plenty of jailed journalists.
Shame, guess I’ll never buy anything from them ever again. Bricking the device I own is fucked, it’s none of your business what I do or don’t do with it.
The Steam Deck is superior in every regard anyways.
FSR4 is really, really good. In one important way, it’s actually better than DLSS: it doesn’t have those really distracting disocclusion trails that DLSS has.
The catch is thst your game needs to have FSR4, which is still very new, because like you pointed out, earlier versions were not good.
If you mean Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo, IMO, Nintendo is the worst of them when it comes to stuff like this. You don’t see Microsoft crushing little enthusiast developers and modders (in fact, the Skyblivion team was sent free copies of the Oblivion remaster and has received lots of support and encouragement, as have many other modders).
If someone did that with Pokemon or Zelda at it got as much coverage as Skyblivion, Nintendo would squash them under a bunch of lawyers. That said, IMO, all consoles kind of suck, and PC is a lot fairer to consumers. Steam Deck is like, “You want to run an emulator? A whole new OS? Anything you say King. I love you.”
The Steam Deck? It’s very different. It comes with an unlocked bootloader, so you can install any operating system you want. Even though it’s a “Steam” Deck, you can buy and play games from any store you want, even on the stock Valve operating system.
It’s also somewhat easy to repair, includes official repair guides and replacement parts programs.
Full agree, as someone who owns both. Steam deck is much cooler, opened me up to many games I didnt care to play on PC with a controller. Shredders revenge, lots of side scrollers, etc.
i mean switch 1 has all the same games switch 2 does cause all nintendo does is re release the same shit every year like ea sports and all the other aaa slop. Even if they do it with more polish and quality.
“We’ve seen the feedback online that everyone is unhappy that our new generation of hardware and software is too expensive. Nintendo listens to customer feedback, and we appreciate your enthusiasm for Nintendo products!
“In response to the community, we’ve updated our license agreement so that if you even think about not paying us, we’ll kick you off ALL our stuff and cancel every other Nintendo thing you have! We’ll even send a brute squad to your house and smash your legacy NES we can’t brick remotely in front of your kids! Nobody messes with Nintendo!
“Now, get out there, and buy, buy, buy!
“Sincerely, your friendly, caring buddies at Nintendo.”
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Just another reason to stop buying consoles. Imagine building or buying a pc for your OS to just be like, “No, we think you’re pirating something. We’re going to lock your system and make it entirely unusable. Enjoy your ~$1000 paperweight!”
If you think either Apple or Microsoft wouldn’t do that,.you’ve likely too young to know about “hackingtosh” computers or too nerdy to have read the windows 11 coverage.
That neither company would do it without a profit motive is a good argument to ban both from running “app stores”.
That’s why linux is the only choice for me now.
Hackintoshes have been around since the 80s and this has never happened.
In 2009-2012 Apple did levy a successful lawsuit against Psystar for doing this in a business environment. But they’ve never enforced bricking a consumer Hackintosh and I expect they never will.
Apple has reportedly sued people trying to figure out the communication protocols and chips on hardware those people own.
Aside from the specific hackintosh problem, apple is no better.
You guys still use Windows and Macs, lol?
Many of us don’t get a choice when it comes to work computers. I use a lot of software that is impossible to get on Windows or Linux. I despise Macs with a passion, but I’m forced to use them for certain aspects of my work. Because there literally isn’t an analogous program for Windows or Mac.
Same with my desk computer, which is a Windows laptop issued by the company’s IT department. Could I boot Linux on it from a USB drive? Probably. But why would I, when that could easily get me fired as soon as IT sees a random Linux machine trying to connect to their network?
why are you running pirated media on a work computer?
On the same basis as Nintendo, it wouldn’t matter if they are or are not, if their “detection” determines its against terms, then its against terms.
False positives happen all the time.
huh?
The only part that matters is detection.
Whether that detection is accurate or not is irrelevant.
Then just switch to Linux on your personal computer. Seriously, it’s as if you saw that single “gotcha” argument and decided to repeat it with no thought whatsoever
Not at all. There are a lot of Lemmy users who act like using Windows/Mac for anything is a sin. The go-to advice whenever Microsoft progresses the enshittificafion is “lol I haven’t used Windows in [X] years. Just make the switch to Linux already.” And they act like ditching it is the only way to go. But the sad reality is that ditching Windows/Mac isn’t an option for many people who are roped into using it due to corporate policy or entrenched software.
Hell, I still have to use Windows XP fairly regularly for work. It’s an air gapped system that never touches the internet, but it is a program that is written in Flash… And it controls some of the most expensive gear that the company owns. Since Flash isn’t supported on modern OSes, the official vendor solution is to fucking ship a Windows XP machine.
I took down all the lan ports in our cube area connecting a raspberry pi to the network. I left network as static as I set it up and installed it into equipment where it won’t touch the network but the machine can talk to it, but then realized I needed some extra software. So I brought it out to my desk where I had set it up while it was set to dynamic and it caused the whole switch it was connected to to shut down. No one really seemed bothered when I went to get it fixed. Concerningly not bothered in fact.
Contrary to what Lemmy would like you to believe, some of us actually like using Windows. Is it annoying sometimes? Yes but Linux can also be really annoying and a pain. I’ve wasted days trying to get a GPU to show up properly among other smaller issues for work purposes. I’m not gonna even try to bother with it when I just want to get home and relax.
Convenience is not worth all the spyware and disrespect.
Or buy a steam deck
Microsoft would 100% do this with Windows if they had the technical competence, heh.
Apple’s just closing off practical workarounds.
This is the kind of shit that makes me want to pirate nintendo’s games purely for the principle of the matter.
I have several reasons for not buying nintendo’s games, from their piss-poor customer service, to threatening content creators with litigation, to actually litigating indie competitors, to cease-and-desisting fanmade mods and games, and generally treating their most dedicated fans like shit.
If it were possible to legally buy nintendo games and directly download them to my pc to play on whatever emulator I wanted, even if nintendo offered zero support for it, that might be enough to convince me to be a paying customer again. But no, nintendo has to do shit like this instead. fuck nintendo.
EDIT: I’d like to add on to the part about the cease and desisting of fanmade things, Nintendo likes to do that when they’re planning on announcing their own game that these fan projects would be competition for. Project M was killed shortly before Ultimate’s announcement. AM2R was killed shortly before nintendo’s own Metroid 2 remake was announced. Pokemon Uranium was killed shortly before, well, one of the pokemon games was announced, I couldn’t tell you which one since I stopped caring after gen 3. I’m sure there’s more that I don’t remember off the top of my head.
3 months ago i was planning to buy 3 more games on my Switch and upgrade to Switch 2 when it comes out.
After the shit with the Switch 2 launch and the anti-consumer attitude, i was ok I’m buying 2 more games on Switch and only PC after.
Now i am thinking that they don’t gonna see another cent from me.
Thats the spirit. Fuck nintendo.
Steam deck and emulation. No new game is that critical, emulators will come out.
Im thinking of selling the switch 2 I pre-ordered directly from Nintendo… might get more than a grand
Who is paying a grand to buy a Nintendo console, Jesus Christ. Then again i see the prices of GPUs, and i remember how crazy this world really is.
on another hand a mini pc is peanuts and they are shockingly powerful.
Easy solution: Don’t buy one. Play games on a PC. Nintendo isn’t your friend.
I’d love to see Nintendo try this in Norway! Completely and wholly illegal consumer practice. It’s incredibly hostile and would only work in countries where corporations have stronger rights than humans.
I’m sure this totally wont backfire and screw over legitimate owners due to some totally unforeseen glitch or idiocy on nintendos part.
it is always ethical to pirate Nintendo stuff
If it wasn’t for “piracy” (volunteers lovingly preserving and modding their games and consoles and sharing their work for free) most people would’ve left and forgotten about Nintendo years ago. Their products would have been remembered just like those old, abandoned songs you never hear on any streaming service anymore, then sometimes think about and never bother to find because “it’s so X0’s” anyway. Most of these companies owe modders and “pirates” the fact that they’re so happily earning so much in this golden era of remasters and remakes.
please elaborate
If buying isn’t owning then piracy isn’t theft.
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You beat me to this link by literally 11 hours! My god how deep have I sunk~
Nintendo sucks and deserves it
If Nintendo has the power to brick your console, then do you truly own it?
This sort of shit needs to be illegal.
It is illegal in the EU. This was announced specifically for the US
The EU is the true land of the free.
As an EU citizen, thats laughable. German police was very recently beating up women in a pro-palestine protest, and there are plenty of jailed journalists.
[insert always has been meme]
That’s because the founding fathers forgot to put in the Constitution don’t be corporate dicks because they thought it was obvious.
Ahh the land of the free
Specifically for the US or specifically not for the EU?
I think US and UK.
Shame, guess I’ll never buy anything from them ever again. Bricking the device I own is fucked, it’s none of your business what I do or don’t do with it.
The Steam Deck is superior in every regard anyways.
Almost… I wish it had access to DLSS, FSR looks so horrendous, especially before actual hardware acceleration like we have on RDNA 2.
It will come. It’s still in it’s infancy.
FSR4 is really, really good. In one important way, it’s actually better than DLSS: it doesn’t have those really distracting disocclusion trails that DLSS has.
The catch is thst your game needs to have FSR4, which is still very new, because like you pointed out, earlier versions were not good.
Idk what you’re smoking, FSR 3 is great, FSR 2.1 is just fine, and were up to 4 now
How’s this different from any of the big 3?
If you mean Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo, IMO, Nintendo is the worst of them when it comes to stuff like this. You don’t see Microsoft crushing little enthusiast developers and modders (in fact, the Skyblivion team was sent free copies of the Oblivion remaster and has received lots of support and encouragement, as have many other modders).
If someone did that with Pokemon or Zelda at it got as much coverage as Skyblivion, Nintendo would squash them under a bunch of lawyers. That said, IMO, all consoles kind of suck, and PC is a lot fairer to consumers. Steam Deck is like, “You want to run an emulator? A whole new OS? Anything you say King. I love you.”
The Steam Deck? It’s very different. It comes with an unlocked bootloader, so you can install any operating system you want. Even though it’s a “Steam” Deck, you can buy and play games from any store you want, even on the stock Valve operating system.
It’s also somewhat easy to repair, includes official repair guides and replacement parts programs.
fucking staggering ignorance here, rewarded as usual
Time to Switch 2 a Steam Deck.
Full agree, as someone who owns both. Steam deck is much cooler, opened me up to many games I didnt care to play on PC with a controller. Shredders revenge, lots of side scrollers, etc.
I see what you did there
Rofl, owned
Steam has the games Nintendon’t. For everything else, there’s emulation.
that will just make me wait until an emulator and roms come out.
fuck nintendo.
Good news: a Switch emulator already exists.
i thought this had to do with the switch 2 but reading more into it, the first could very well be updated to do this too. thats shitty as fuck.
Good thing I still have the exploitable one with hekate installed.
Nintendo will have to visit me personally and pry my switch from my cold, dead hands.
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i mean switch 1 has all the same games switch 2 does cause all nintendo does is re release the same shit every year like ea sports and all the other aaa slop. Even if they do it with more polish and quality.
Best argument in favor of emulation so far.
“Dear fans,
“We’ve seen the feedback online that everyone is unhappy that our new generation of hardware and software is too expensive. Nintendo listens to customer feedback, and we appreciate your enthusiasm for Nintendo products!
“In response to the community, we’ve updated our license agreement so that if you even think about not paying us, we’ll kick you off ALL our stuff and cancel every other Nintendo thing you have! We’ll even send a brute squad to your house and smash your legacy NES we can’t brick remotely in front of your kids! Nobody messes with Nintendo!
“Now, get out there, and buy, buy, buy!
“Sincerely, your friendly, caring buddies at Nintendo.”
Might want to research Japanese IP law before you strawman, but apparently by the upvotes all of lemmy is just as ignorant as you are
Apart from the admittedly over the top hyperbole about the NES, what portion of my sarcasm would you say qualifies as a strawman?
Literally your ENTIRE first reply is a strawman and an argumentum ad absurdum thrown in for good measure.
It was a mistake to let any of you on the internet, and I sure did warn them.