How does romance work in most video games? Select the correct dialogue options, memorize the correct answer to questions, give them the same gift every day?
The other main way a lot of young men “interact” with women is through porn, which is always made with a mind to what a woman would enjoy during sex…/s
because you think of “I never get laid” as a normal human need to connect with another person, which is what it is but they’re too deep in misogyny to realize it. instead to them getting laid is a quest to complete and it involves a quest item known as a woman, not a character. so I never get laid has less of an undertone of “why can’t I connect with a woman” and more of “when will we get our government mandated sex slaves”
I can buy a new toaster from the shop, why can’t I buy a woman too? Does this mean Gamers are pro sex-work? Or pro indentured servitude for women more likely…
my inner engineer wants to challenge this: I know there’s a dildo company that does tours, and at least copies penises and vulvae of customers as a souveneir, im sure there are things that copy at least he surface of the vaginal canal if you want to be completionist. maybe with the right kind of 3d printer it could be done? not sure, haven’t really worked with nylon materials.
Nylon? I would think this would be a ‘print the moulds we use to pour in silicone’ situation, if we’re going for usability. https://formlabs.com/blog/casting-silicone-guide/ On an engineering note I’m also sure I’ve seen this exact thing before, but I wonder what would improve it. Self-heating? DIY solution could be a hidden pocket for reusable handwarmers lol
Gamers tend to think of things as quests. A box to check off. A completionist. Getting married and having kids is part of life’s quests for many people. It’s not seen as collaboration in many ways.
Evolutionary psychology. I think there’s real research in the field, but it’s drowned out by charlatans who invoke its name to lend credence to their made-up bullshit without the burden of scientific rigour.
Traditionally, yes, but I do want to note that modern takes use it to also argue for cooperation, since working with with others is good for survival and passing on genes. They also are the first to tell people how bunk the alpha male crap is, and the fact a lone wolf is a dead wolf.
More likely higher ranked players finally figured out that keeping harmony within your team does wonders for your chance at winning.
The amount of infighting I’ve had to stop just to save my elo is insane, why would i start something just because of someone’s gender.
I don’t think that’s right, I’m terrible at games but I still respect women (enough to spare them from interacting with me whenever possible. Same goes for all people really)
acknowledge that one singular woman is currently better than you at this one particular skill or draw 20
man it’s like there are options that don’t involve aggression towards another person for… not being bad at a video game
I count myself lucky the men I know in real life are chill, and that I am not too interested in PvP games, scared off by the constant reinforcement from stories online that someone will be shitty to me because I am a woman. When I did play TF2 it was always pubs mic off and with a very gender-neutral username.
In short. The higher the social status of the woman compared to the man, the more likely the man is to sexually objectify her. Wheras women aren’t more likely to do this based on relative status.
Objectification is defined as reducing a person to solely looks and sexual function.
Similar stuff is seen in primates. Females are easier targets to assert dominance over. Since they are physically weaker. Male long tail maqacues losing their status, would seek out younger/weaker targets to establish dominance over. Something that was interesting too, is that female maqacues with more masculine facial features, were less often subjected to dominance seeking behaviour (from both males and females if I recall correctly) than females with more feminine faces.
It seems to boil down to “who can I dominate with little risk?” Female? Easy. Big male? Stupid idea. Young male? No problem. Male of equal size? Potentially.
I got hit on a couple times in Starcraft 2 of all games just because I had a feminine-sounding username. I literally got “damn girl, look at that MMR” once and it’s so funny.
That’s an interesting study. It makes sense that dominance-seeking behavior follows a ‘low-risk, high-reward’ strategy across species. The connection between status, objectification, and primate behavior is fascinating Morse Code Translator—wonder if similar patterns appear in different cultural contexts.
Just remember that evolutionary biology is largely considered quack science, often by evolutionary biologists themselves (at least in terms of how ev-bio is used to write papers and books about how horny men and women act in bars, and why your Tinder profile isn’t working and what it “means” when she texts you a certain way.)
My daughter wanted to wear my headset when I was playing battlefield once. It was so funny listening to those losers rage because they Were getting stomped by a 5 yr old girl. Now days she still puts it on from time to time and it’s still hilarious.
More like I’m just sick of people hijacking my favorite art form to express political/social issues or sexual fetishes, both of which are becoming too common. It’s exactly why I’ve grown more and more in favor of retro gaming, back when neither of those expressions were anything but a fringe group of miserable individuals and weirdos that most gamers ignored. Not going to argue further, I’ve spoken my piece.
what you’re referring to is a time when you were a kid and didn’t realize the politics. now you’re aware of it and are acting like it’s new. this is just illiteracy.
Ugh. Thank you, I was just about to say it myself. There’s been politics in games for forever. Even the simplest shit like, “environmental destruction bad, so Sonic fight Eggman”
People are just too dumb to realize that they were kids back then…
even mechanics can be unintentionally political. there was a really cool errant signal video years ago talking about civilization games. it was mostly about what the games idea of a “civilization” is and how the win conditions reinforced the idea that one civilization has to be the superior one to rule them all…
but also these ideas were further reinforced by the way barbarians were depicted. that word already has baggage but the interesting thing is that in civ4 they share a banner with wildlife. like, they’re almost like animals or natural disasters and not people at all.
what conservatives don’t understand is that you can think about things like this and acknowledge what they mean and still enjoy the game and or understand why these choices were made. they’re not necessarily political choices as much as they’re mechanical, but that doesn’t mean we can’t think about what mechanical choices might mean to the player, or what messages they send. if video games are art, they can—and I would say must—be critiqued.
fear of change is at the core of conservatism, and that drives their utter aversion to introspection, and also to criticism of things and people they like. and vice versa, they can’t bring themselves to appreciate any part of anything they don’t like. if they like a person they can do no wrong. if they like a game it must be perfect. if they dislike a song it’s the harbinger of the fall of civilization (ooh look at me bringing it full circle).
in a world of absolutes, there can be no discussion. don’t ask me to think about things please. leave your thoughts and opinions out of my fun time, lest my views get challenged. this is what’s funny about the likes of ben shapiro pretending that they have the facts while liberals are too emotional. their entire world view is based on their feels, and their arguments follow those as justification.
“My position is so tenuous yet so important to my identity that I will not tolerate the slightest challenge.”
Alternatively, “That’s why my favorite book is Moby Dick, no frou-frou symbolism. Just a good simple tale about a man who hates an animal.”
Psychonauts is about trauma. Fallout is anti-war. FFVII is environmentalist. Samus as a woman was an intentionally subversive choice. Video games have had socual commentary for as long as it’s been able to be expressed.
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I never understood this mentality, myself.
Gamers: “I never get laid… 😩”
Also Gamers: “Women are just kitchen accessories.”
G*mers aren’t known for being smart.
yeah. all your free time is conclusions being handed to you and the illusion of agency.
and it’s not like everyone’s sitting around playing shit like ‘disco elysium’ all day.
You might have a career as a Halo 3 e-sports pro then!
How does romance work in most video games? Select the correct dialogue options, memorize the correct answer to questions, give them the same gift every day?
The other main way a lot of young men “interact” with women is through porn, which is always made with a mind to what a woman would enjoy during sex…/s
because you think of “I never get laid” as a normal human need to connect with another person, which is what it is but they’re too deep in misogyny to realize it. instead to them getting laid is a quest to complete and it involves a quest item known as a woman, not a character. so I never get laid has less of an undertone of “why can’t I connect with a woman” and more of “when will we get our government mandated sex slaves”
I can buy a new toaster from the shop, why can’t I buy a woman too? Does this mean Gamers are pro sex-work? Or pro indentured servitude for women more likely…
You cant pirate pussy, and we all know how gamers feel about subscription models.
my inner engineer wants to challenge this: I know there’s a dildo company that does tours, and at least copies penises and vulvae of customers as a souveneir, im sure there are things that copy at least he surface of the vaginal canal if you want to be completionist. maybe with the right kind of 3d printer it could be done? not sure, haven’t really worked with nylon materials.
Nylon? I would think this would be a ‘print the moulds we use to pour in silicone’ situation, if we’re going for usability. https://formlabs.com/blog/casting-silicone-guide/ On an engineering note I’m also sure I’ve seen this exact thing before, but I wonder what would improve it. Self-heating? DIY solution could be a hidden pocket for reusable handwarmers lol
yeah I was just kind of riffing, assuming nobody wanted to really melt down silicone in their home.
“yOu WoUlDnT dOwNlOaD a cUnT.”
genuinely do not give a shit if you download mine.
kind of concerned with how it was ever digitized in the first place, but, like, once it is, you have my blessing. or curse I guess. whichever.
I understand it, but I don’t think it applies.
Gamers tend to think of things as quests. A box to check off. A completionist. Getting married and having kids is part of life’s quests for many people. It’s not seen as collaboration in many ways.
Obligatory footnote: EvoPsych is mostly bunk, deeply intertwined with eugenics and riddled with homophobia, sexism and rape apologia.
EvoPsych?
Evolutionary psychology. I think there’s real research in the field, but it’s drowned out by charlatans who invoke its name to lend credence to their made-up bullshit without the burden of scientific rigour.
Traditionally, yes, but I do want to note that modern takes use it to also argue for cooperation, since working with with others is good for survival and passing on genes. They also are the first to tell people how bunk the alpha male crap is, and the fact a lone wolf is a dead wolf.
Well then the obvious conclusion is that respecting women makes you better at video games.
More likely higher ranked players finally figured out that keeping harmony within your team does wonders for your chance at winning. The amount of infighting I’ve had to stop just to save my elo is insane, why would i start something just because of someone’s gender.
as a mildly misandrist lesbian with lots of obsessive crushes:
provably not. maybe there’s a bell curve?
I don’t think that’s right, I’m terrible at games but I still respect women (enough to spare them from interacting with me whenever possible. Same goes for all people really)
Think about how bad you would be if you hated women. You’re really skill-maxing.
“but behaved more submissively towards players with a male voice” I want to know what they mean by submissive
They were less confrontational and more likely to accept direction
“Given the chance, they would definitely lock lips with the dominant male”
:D
They got into some freaky shit in those lobbies.
Appeal to authority. Higher-skilled male players got to call the shots, lead, delegate etc.
Same way you’re “submissive” to your boss
butt stuff, gotcha
work to improve the skill gap or draw 20
acknowledge that one singular woman is currently better than you at this one particular skill or draw 20
man it’s like there are options that don’t involve aggression towards another person for… not being bad at a video game
I count myself lucky the men I know in real life are chill, and that I am not too interested in PvP games, scared off by the constant reinforcement from stories online that someone will be shitty to me because I am a woman. When I did play TF2 it was always pubs mic off and with a very gender-neutral username.
That summary may also explain why some men are so insecure about women earning more money than them too.
So my transition from cringe lord to become a better individual overall is actually just me getting better at video game? Fair enough
Absolutely.
No, but it means you give less of a shit when you lose.
Not necessarily.
Reminds me of this: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0361684319871913
In short. The higher the social status of the woman compared to the man, the more likely the man is to sexually objectify her. Wheras women aren’t more likely to do this based on relative status.
Objectification is defined as reducing a person to solely looks and sexual function.
Similar stuff is seen in primates. Females are easier targets to assert dominance over. Since they are physically weaker. Male long tail maqacues losing their status, would seek out younger/weaker targets to establish dominance over. Something that was interesting too, is that female maqacues with more masculine facial features, were less often subjected to dominance seeking behaviour (from both males and females if I recall correctly) than females with more feminine faces.
It seems to boil down to “who can I dominate with little risk?” Female? Easy. Big male? Stupid idea. Young male? No problem. Male of equal size? Potentially.
That thing about macaques is interesting.
Understandable - management has a natural affinity with dumbass.
I got hit on a couple times in Starcraft 2 of all games just because I had a feminine-sounding username. I literally got “damn girl, look at that MMR” once and it’s so funny.
I have noticed that all of these misogynists are incredibly insecure alpha-pretending males. Can’t imagine how tiring this constant fear must be.
That’s an interesting study. It makes sense that dominance-seeking behavior follows a ‘low-risk, high-reward’ strategy across species. The connection between status, objectification, and primate behavior is fascinating Morse Code Translator—wonder if similar patterns appear in different cultural contexts.
Just remember that evolutionary biology is largely considered quack science, often by evolutionary biologists themselves (at least in terms of how ev-bio is used to write papers and books about how horny men and women act in bars, and why your Tinder profile isn’t working and what it “means” when she texts you a certain way.)
Didn’t sample all of the shitty halo players that are too afraid to talk to a women.
My daughter wanted to wear my headset when I was playing battlefield once. It was so funny listening to those losers rage because they Were getting stomped by a 5 yr old girl. Now days she still puts it on from time to time and it’s still hilarious.
Politicizing games is so incredibly tiresome.
Trying to avoid politics are we? Got some bad news for ya…
Only two genders: male and political.
this literally has nothing to do with the game itself. it’s about behavior towards other people, which is intently political.
also video games are art which makes them political as well.
the fact that you kneejerked into this reaction feels super insecure and reactionary.
More like I’m just sick of people hijacking my favorite art form to express political/social issues or sexual fetishes, both of which are becoming too common. It’s exactly why I’ve grown more and more in favor of retro gaming, back when neither of those expressions were anything but a fringe group of miserable individuals and weirdos that most gamers ignored. Not going to argue further, I’ve spoken my piece.
I’m glad, because you’re talking nonsense.
what you’re referring to is a time when you were a kid and didn’t realize the politics. now you’re aware of it and are acting like it’s new. this is just illiteracy.
Ugh. Thank you, I was just about to say it myself. There’s been politics in games for forever. Even the simplest shit like, “environmental destruction bad, so Sonic fight Eggman”
People are just too dumb to realize that they were kids back then…
even mechanics can be unintentionally political. there was a really cool errant signal video years ago talking about civilization games. it was mostly about what the games idea of a “civilization” is and how the win conditions reinforced the idea that one civilization has to be the superior one to rule them all…
but also these ideas were further reinforced by the way barbarians were depicted. that word already has baggage but the interesting thing is that in civ4 they share a banner with wildlife. like, they’re almost like animals or natural disasters and not people at all.
what conservatives don’t understand is that you can think about things like this and acknowledge what they mean and still enjoy the game and or understand why these choices were made. they’re not necessarily political choices as much as they’re mechanical, but that doesn’t mean we can’t think about what mechanical choices might mean to the player, or what messages they send. if video games are art, they can—and I would say must—be critiqued.
fear of change is at the core of conservatism, and that drives their utter aversion to introspection, and also to criticism of things and people they like. and vice versa, they can’t bring themselves to appreciate any part of anything they don’t like. if they like a person they can do no wrong. if they like a game it must be perfect. if they dislike a song it’s the harbinger of the fall of civilization (ooh look at me bringing it full circle).
in a world of absolutes, there can be no discussion. don’t ask me to think about things please. leave your thoughts and opinions out of my fun time, lest my views get challenged. this is what’s funny about the likes of ben shapiro pretending that they have the facts while liberals are too emotional. their entire world view is based on their feels, and their arguments follow those as justification.
“My position is so tenuous yet so important to my identity that I will not tolerate the slightest challenge.”
Alternatively, “That’s why my favorite book is Moby Dick, no frou-frou symbolism. Just a good simple tale about a man who hates an animal.”
Psychonauts is about trauma. Fallout is anti-war. FFVII is environmentalist. Samus as a woman was an intentionally subversive choice. Video games have had socual commentary for as long as it’s been able to be expressed.
I’ve heard this before but “a man who hates an animal” makes me laugh so hard