I must be in the minority that prefers digital and went digital for good since the 7th generation, SCII HD bought on the X360 still plays on XSX. I only buy physical when it is an import not available in the store in my country such as DOAX3, thank you Play Asia. I have a diskless XBox and Playstation, so I play the imported games on the Switch. If I didn’t have a Switch and if the Playstation versions weren’t more censored I might see a reason to get a disk drive for it.
We have one shop, we dont own the games, unwarranted bans are a thing - locking you out of your games, sales are shit tier and they keep adding advertising and necessitating online.
You used to be able to resell your PC games too, back in the day.
Why can’t PC games also come on discs? The last one I had the option to buy on disc I remember was Skyrim. When I put the disc in, it launched steam, connected my purchase to my account, and steam did the remainder of the install over the network. Turns out, it didn’t really have anything useful on disc.
PC games are a bit different simply from how open they are. It was too easy to rip disks which is part of how the perception of PC gamers as nothing but pirates came about in the 00’s. Part of the reason that early Steam sales were so legendarily good was because so many publishers had written PC gaming off as a lost cause.
Because it all routes through one digital storefront without the possibility of competition, so digital pricing on console storefronts is artificially high.
Plus, they’ve already shut down stores on older consoles and people have lost games. That’s less likely as console companies learn how to make competent digital storefronts and account systems, many have felt the burn of losing all your digital purchases on console and won’t let it happen twice.
I ended up with a disc console, but I admit it makes up a minority of my usage. I just wanted to be able to play old PS4 games, and blu-ray movies. Most of the games I play are on PS+ or purchased digitally.
Any time a company says “People don’t want x” what they mean is “We don’t want people to want x”, usually due to money, effort, control, or a mixture of the three.
Sony would have more digital sales if they didn’t fuck with people’s libraries. The only way to be sure that you can still play some PS games is to have a physical copy.
It is dumb to trust physical media with copy protection. Those discs don’t last nearly as long as you think they will and you have no way to make a proper backup. You are trying to solve a legal/societal problem with a technical workaround, that never really works out.
I’ve had properly stored, professionally pressed, official DVD and CDROM’s suffer bit rot, become in playable and in one case explode into shards in my DVD-ROM drive. And it didn’t take decades, most were <7 years old. Don’t be so sure you have decades.
I buy thrift store dvds, they still seem to work… Mostly
I see your point. I was mostly cheekey few comments up. I aint that commented to back up but i prolly shoulf start while these things can be had physical with a license
Otherwise gonna be a lot o yarring into the high sea winds.
Yeah, the digital price only goes down for sales, otherwise even years after release you’re paying full price. With discs you can buy from whatever store you want and usually prices go down a lot within a year (which you should wait anyway because games are too buggy at release).
And you can usually snag a used copy for even less without losing out on anything. That’s the main reason why I would never get a digital only console. But also, I‘m primarily a PC gamer, so I’m tied to digital only but at least I‘m not bound to a single store.
I think the key is that you have access to markets. The markets can determine the price rather than it being set to some desired value. Whether that’s a used market, or PC where you have the option of multiple stores and sometimes buying direct from the developer.
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I must be in the minority that prefers digital and went digital for good since the 7th generation, SCII HD bought on the X360 still plays on XSX. I only buy physical when it is an import not available in the store in my country such as DOAX3, thank you Play Asia. I have a diskless XBox and Playstation, so I play the imported games on the Switch. If I didn’t have a Switch and if the Playstation versions weren’t more censored I might see a reason to get a disk drive for it.
Gee…
And how many digital editions were sold to people who wished they could have gotten one with a disc drive?
The numbers are in, Sony. Don’t sit there and say ‘Nobody wants to buy discs anymore.’ Almost everyone. Almost everyone wants to buy discs anymore.
How come console gamers are the only ones still making a push for discs?
We have one shop, we dont own the games, unwarranted bans are a thing - locking you out of your games, sales are shit tier and they keep adding advertising and necessitating online.
You can resell your games
You can also buy second hand games and even borrow some free at the library
You used to be able to resell your PC games too, back in the day.
Why can’t PC games also come on discs? The last one I had the option to buy on disc I remember was Skyrim. When I put the disc in, it launched steam, connected my purchase to my account, and steam did the remainder of the install over the network. Turns out, it didn’t really have anything useful on disc.
PC games are a bit different simply from how open they are. It was too easy to rip disks which is part of how the perception of PC gamers as nothing but pirates came about in the 00’s. Part of the reason that early Steam sales were so legendarily good was because so many publishers had written PC gaming off as a lost cause.
Because it all routes through one digital storefront without the possibility of competition, so digital pricing on console storefronts is artificially high.
Plus, they’ve already shut down stores on older consoles and people have lost games. That’s less likely as console companies learn how to make competent digital storefronts and account systems, many have felt the burn of losing all your digital purchases on console and won’t let it happen twice.
I ended up with a disc console, but I admit it makes up a minority of my usage. I just wanted to be able to play old PS4 games, and blu-ray movies. Most of the games I play are on PS+ or purchased digitally.
My main use the disc drive is used games.
Any time a company says “People don’t want x” what they mean is “We don’t want people to want x”, usually due to money, effort, control, or a mixture of the three.
Sony would have more digital sales if they didn’t fuck with people’s libraries. The only way to be sure that you can still play some PS games is to have a physical copy.
You have to be a dumb to trust digital “library”
Even steam tbh all that shit is has its day numbered
Maybe gog but still got to habe your own media back up
Naive would be a better adjective than dumb, imo.
It is dumb to trust physical media with copy protection. Those discs don’t last nearly as long as you think they will and you have no way to make a proper backup. You are trying to solve a legal/societal problem with a technical workaround, that never really works out.
I got a few decades left. Leave me alone 🐸
I’ve had properly stored, professionally pressed, official DVD and CDROM’s suffer bit rot, become in playable and in one case explode into shards in my DVD-ROM drive. And it didn’t take decades, most were <7 years old. Don’t be so sure you have decades.
I buy thrift store dvds, they still seem to work… Mostly
I see your point. I was mostly cheekey few comments up. I aint that commented to back up but i prolly shoulf start while these things can be had physical with a license
Otherwise gonna be a lot o yarring into the high sea winds.
The PS5 is a great UHD Blu-Ray player. I see no reason why not get the disc version.
Shame it doesn’t support dolby vision though.
Need to leave some features out intentionally, to add later to the PS6 as a selling point and incentivise customers to upgrade!
More like Sony doesn’t want to cannibalize selling their own dedicated Blu-ray players for a much higher profit margin.
A $100 bluray drive, an Ugoos am6, and coreelec can get play everything for way less than a high end bluray player that can cost $1000.
I buy most of my games used for cheaper than sales
There can be a pretty significant price discrepancy between digital and physical copies.
Yeah, the digital price only goes down for sales, otherwise even years after release you’re paying full price. With discs you can buy from whatever store you want and usually prices go down a lot within a year (which you should wait anyway because games are too buggy at release).
And you can usually snag a used copy for even less without losing out on anything. That’s the main reason why I would never get a digital only console. But also, I‘m primarily a PC gamer, so I’m tied to digital only but at least I‘m not bound to a single store.
I think the key is that you have access to markets. The markets can determine the price rather than it being set to some desired value. Whether that’s a used market, or PC where you have the option of multiple stores and sometimes buying direct from the developer.
why does it matter when the disc for a game is now basically just a download code? the studios have already won this battle.
It matters because you can get used games for sometimes a tenth of the price they charge on the digital store.