I just dont understand miney obsessed people. Why the hell do you need multiple yachts? Why even work at this point when you could just … not? You would still afford everything you ever want without ever checking your bank account. I just dont get it.
Yup, if I was worth an obscene amount, I’d still work, but the nature of my work would change. It sounds like he found something he enjoys that happens to make a ton of money.
Exactly. I have a few ideas for that, but I’m not nearly to the point of funding them:
start/join charity to help people get out of debt
create a game dev studio to make my dream games
finish building my P2P Reddit alternative
I’m working on the last two in my spare time, but I’m not willing to quit my day job and rely on the those to pay the bills. If I got a windfall, I’d consider it, but of not, I hope to be there in my lifetime 50s. We’ll see.
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
We can nitpick specific examples for everything you want, and we will be correct, but that detracts from the point that Gabe has helped to build things that took decades of slowly getting anywhere.
Sure, we know loot boxes are bad because they exploit the psychology of gambling. But what about Steam sales? They’re exploiting FOMO, hoarding/collecting psychology. We know that Steam users are buying billions of dollars worth of games they never play.
This dude is 100% correct and I have no idea why people are downvoting him. Sales make people more likely to buy a product due to being limited. Limited time sales work better than lowering prices in the long term.
It’s why indie games do stuff like release their new games with time-limited 10% off discounts.
That’s for every individual reading this to decide. It will either mean something or nothing to you.
Personally, I don’t think billionaires should exist. Even the ones that I think have done cool things. And I definitely don’t think anyone needs 6 yachts in a world that is burning.
LMAO tell me you are not a dev without telling me.
Steam does a shitton for devs, the 30% is literally only for sales through their storefront, I can get any amount of keys and resell them wherever I want and give valve nothing, and they’ll still host all my shit, check ownership, handle copy sharing in family libraries, handle patching and beta tests, all for a one time fee that is even refunded if you ever get past a certain amount of copies sold.
You have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.
If you’re a game dev, then you should also know how valuable every service steam gives is, if you’re just “a dev” then it’s not really relevant beyond understanding how much setting up all of that infrastructure would cost in terms of time, effort, marketing to actually get discoverability, and actual server costs once you need to scale.
Either way you should know enough to get that 30% is absolutely worth it.
If this was true steam would have failed from the start. Instead, the service actually does offer a ton of benefits to both users and developers/publishers including distribution of sales, updates, additional features like forums, friends, and other things that have varying levels of positive or negative benefits to different people. That isn’t even mentioning Proton or the steam deck, just what it between the makers of the games and the people who play them.
Lootboxes are bullshit, sure. He should have spread out the benefits more to the employees as well. But the 30% cut for ‘nothing’ is incorrect.
Gabe shouldnt be able to have the money he has, but his yacht ownership isn’t the issue many are making when pointing it out. One is his home, full time, any home he was going own was realistically going to suck for the environment. Last I read the others are all like research vessels, emergency medical facilities for disaster relief, and humanitarian aid, and shit. Not like a zuck’s smaller yacht to act as a helipad for his larger yacht thing.
maybe some day we will have a system that prevents people from having that much money, until then any place with an active enough economy has some assholes owning yachts.
Personally, I don’t think billionaires should exist. Even the ones that I think have done cool things.
Yeah, it’s in the intersection of two “doubt” points making one “almost sure” point.
First, people getting power get spoiled fast, it’s not possible to resist, it’s as if I could have any girl I like and she’d like me and I knew that, just no chance to avoid a sensory burnout after a few months of, eh, feeling that. The possibility that a person can resist that is very small, people like Aristotle Onassis, maybe.
Second, if one person is worth, say, 12000 times more than another person, it’s important to ask whether they really are, or they can be replaced with like 50 of equals of that another person with proper organization and discipline. The possibility that they really are is almost negligibly small, there are a few people alive for whom one can suggest that and maybe more, but most are like those people we know and love.
I can imagine Gabe Newel being worth 100, maybe 1000 times me for the humanity, purely financially, but something of bigger orders of magnitude seems preposterous. Not even touching upon money affecting our relative legal power balance, where even factor 2 difference is just morally not acceptable.
Not that I’m of any bad opinion of Gabe, Steam is one today’s company that both doesn’t abuse its customers too much and does a lot of work on the positive side.
Greedily taking up an obscene excess of resources and producing crazy amount of emissions and pollution makes the planet less livable for the rest of us. Yachts do those things.
Gabe Newell is better than many others, but this is true, the best man on Earth will become an absolute pissbag given power for continuous enough period of time to realize that.
And the best man on Earth is probably some volunteer medic in some African warzone, not a computer programmer and a tech businessman.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]
Video game news oriented community. No NanoUFO is not a bot :)
Posts.
News oriented content (general reviews, previews or retrospectives allowed).
Broad discussion posts (preferably not only about a specific game).
No humor/memes etc…
No affiliate links
No advertising.
No clickbait, editorialized, sensational titles. State the game in question in the title. No all caps.
No self promotion.
No duplicate posts, newer post will be deleted unless there is more discussion in one of the posts.
No politics.
Comments.
No personal attacks.
Obey instance rules.
No low effort comments(one or two words, emoji etc…)
Please use spoiler tags for spoilers.
My goal is just to have a community where people can go and see what new game news is out for the day and comment on it.
Casual reminder that Gabe Newell owns 6 yachts worth an estimated US$1 billion and that he is not your friend.
Some billionaires are ok.
Name 2.
Me, the last time I visited Iran and had a look at their exchange rate.
G*mers: “that’s not going to stop me. I can’t read”
not my friend, but not as clearly my enemy as many other wealthy people
Unfathomably based, let the man scuba dive in peace.
Class consciousness leaving my body when the money hoarder owns the store I buy treats from
So true
I just dont understand miney obsessed people. Why the hell do you need multiple yachts? Why even work at this point when you could just … not? You would still afford everything you ever want without ever checking your bank account. I just dont get it.
He said he’s having fun 🤪
Yup, if I was worth an obscene amount, I’d still work, but the nature of my work would change. It sounds like he found something he enjoys that happens to make a ton of money.
That’s the dream really. Whether that thing you love makes money or not, that’s what you can do once you have enough.
Exactly. I have a few ideas for that, but I’m not nearly to the point of funding them:
I’m working on the last two in my spare time, but I’m not willing to quit my day job and rely on the those to pay the bills. If I got a windfall, I’d consider it, but of not, I hope to be there in my lifetime 50s. We’ll see.
I’m sure many (most?) have something similar.
He probably enjoys working. Lots of people like to feel like they’re making things happen
That includes some bad people too … Well, I dunno how bad, just a certain Larry Ellison still loves working, or so I’ve heard. Or Bill Gates.
I would 100% still work if I were rich. The only thing that would change is when and what I work on.
Helps to keep a healthy routine.
Nothing worse than an unstructured day where you mentally waste away.
I still manage to do that with a job 😎👉
Wow.
Man who didn’t want his business to be completely reliant on Microsoft, made a decision to ensure his money in the future
A huge chunk of that Linux development was paid for by exploiting child gambling.
Just because one does a few good things with their money, doesn’t justify how they got it.
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
Child gambling? You mean like Android videogames and Google not caring about it for a while until some EU law??
I didn’t knew that involved Valve too…
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
We can nitpick specific examples for everything you want, and we will be correct, but that detracts from the point that Gabe has helped to build things that took decades of slowly getting anywhere.
I wish we didn’t need it, but we do.
Valve was making bank before lootcrates, and lootcrates have been available to kids since trading card games.
Sure, we know loot boxes are bad because they exploit the psychology of gambling. But what about Steam sales? They’re exploiting FOMO, hoarding/collecting psychology. We know that Steam users are buying billions of dollars worth of games they never play.
This dude is 100% correct and I have no idea why people are downvoting him. Sales make people more likely to buy a product due to being limited. Limited time sales work better than lowering prices in the long term.
It’s why indie games do stuff like release their new games with time-limited 10% off discounts.
Ah yes, paying less is bad. Viva capitalism. /s
Are you daft or dumb? Pick one.
Paying less is good. I love sales, but they are still a psychological manipulation to get you to spend more money than you normally would.
Now you’re being actually ridiculous. “Sales are bad”? Really?
Regular sales are FOMO? Come on.
I don’t take issue with rich people. Owning boats worth US$1 billion is past the point of rich.
Why are you taking the worth for granted though?
So what?
That’s for every individual reading this to decide. It will either mean something or nothing to you.
Personally, I don’t think billionaires should exist. Even the ones that I think have done cool things. And I definitely don’t think anyone needs 6 yachts in a world that is burning.
He earned his money. Who cares how many yatchs he decided to buy with it?
I do, that’s why I said something.
And nobody has “earned” that much wealth. Absolutely no one.
You’ve got bigger issues if all you care about someone is their monetary wealth.
I don’t think anything I said implies that it’s all I care about friend, and I’d say you don’t care enough.
No one earns a billion dollars.
Yawn
deleted by creator
LMAO tell me you are not a dev without telling me.
Steam does a shitton for devs, the 30% is literally only for sales through their storefront, I can get any amount of keys and resell them wherever I want and give valve nothing, and they’ll still host all my shit, check ownership, handle copy sharing in family libraries, handle patching and beta tests, all for a one time fee that is even refunded if you ever get past a certain amount of copies sold.
You have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.
deleted by creator
If you’re a game dev, then you should also know how valuable every service steam gives is, if you’re just “a dev” then it’s not really relevant beyond understanding how much setting up all of that infrastructure would cost in terms of time, effort, marketing to actually get discoverability, and actual server costs once you need to scale.
Either way you should know enough to get that 30% is absolutely worth it.
deleted by creator
Is that downvote the number of games you’ve released?
deleted by creator
What games do you have on steam/gog/epic?
If this was true steam would have failed from the start. Instead, the service actually does offer a ton of benefits to both users and developers/publishers including distribution of sales, updates, additional features like forums, friends, and other things that have varying levels of positive or negative benefits to different people. That isn’t even mentioning Proton or the steam deck, just what it between the makers of the games and the people who play them.
Lootboxes are bullshit, sure. He should have spread out the benefits more to the employees as well. But the 30% cut for ‘nothing’ is incorrect.
deleted by creator
Yeah… earned…
How do you do fellow temporarily embarrassed billionaire?
Yeah man, totally a billionaire over here scratching together coins for a lucy. You caught me.
I’d argue that’s precisely when you need 6 yachts, possibly more.
If the coasts are gonna flood you should porbably own things that float.
Gabe shouldnt be able to have the money he has, but his yacht ownership isn’t the issue many are making when pointing it out. One is his home, full time, any home he was going own was realistically going to suck for the environment. Last I read the others are all like research vessels, emergency medical facilities for disaster relief, and humanitarian aid, and shit. Not like a zuck’s smaller yacht to act as a helipad for his larger yacht thing.
maybe some day we will have a system that prevents people from having that much money, until then any place with an active enough economy has some assholes owning yachts.
Yeah, it’s in the intersection of two “doubt” points making one “almost sure” point.
First, people getting power get spoiled fast, it’s not possible to resist, it’s as if I could have any girl I like and she’d like me and I knew that, just no chance to avoid a sensory burnout after a few months of, eh, feeling that. The possibility that a person can resist that is very small, people like Aristotle Onassis, maybe.
Second, if one person is worth, say, 12000 times more than another person, it’s important to ask whether they really are, or they can be replaced with like 50 of equals of that another person with proper organization and discipline. The possibility that they really are is almost negligibly small, there are a few people alive for whom one can suggest that and maybe more, but most are like those people we know and love.
I can imagine Gabe Newel being worth 100, maybe 1000 times me for the humanity, purely financially, but something of bigger orders of magnitude seems preposterous. Not even touching upon money affecting our relative legal power balance, where even factor 2 difference is just morally not acceptable.
Not that I’m of any bad opinion of Gabe, Steam is one today’s company that both doesn’t abuse its customers too much and does a lot of work on the positive side.
Greedily taking up an obscene excess of resources and producing crazy amount of emissions and pollution makes the planet less livable for the rest of us. Yachts do those things.
Spoken by someone who has no clue what those yahts actually do.
He’s last on the list to be eaten though.
Gabe Newell is better than many others, but this is true, the best man on Earth will become an absolute pissbag given power for continuous enough period of time to realize that.
And the best man on Earth is probably some volunteer medic in some African warzone, not a computer programmer and a tech businessman.
Jacinda Adern as New Zealand PM seemed to be sort of that type
Power always corrupts.
Maybe it’s you!
Thanks, but I have my very reasonable doubts
We believe in you, rottingleaf!
Thx, will remember that