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Its going to come with Winslop 12 and you gotta pay $20/m or the power button wont work.


Stadia worked on chrome browsers. I think you needed their controller though, but I got mine for free with a Chromecast purchase. For TVs you needed a Chromecast or a Android TV


Microsoft Board: But Google lost so much money on Stadia!

Voice on speaker: but Google didnt have me, Bing.AI!

Microsoft Board: DONE. MAKE US RICH!


This has been tried before and never worked well. What makes you think its going to work any better now?

I even have a free controller google gave me when they tried it.


And because he posted in a gaming community he can’t have any other use for it?

I game, I dabble in local AIs.

He could do all sorts of stuff that might need it.


Not OP but 64gb of ram will let them run some good sized AI models locally along with their video card. Definitely enough to play around with things now and in the future.



albeit with slightly more effort.

customers will flow toward the path of least resistance

I think that’s the crux of it. It can be done, but I would bet the vast majority are just playing steam games on SteamOS

So if you launch on Steam, you can reach PC users and Mobile users, and someone might decide to buy the game on steam knowing it will work easily on both.


You left off the newer steam deck which opens your games up to a mobile audience.


I recently launched a business as a solo dev / founder. It was agonizing trying to get all the last details done and be happy enough to finally say, this is what I’m going to release.

I could have gone on forever if I’d let myself. Oh they need this, oh they need that! This other thing can be better!

Now that it’s out, that pressure is gone, and I can just do smaller updates now which are focused more heavily on the feedback I’m getting from customers.

I probably could have released 3-4 months earlier had I been better about it.


Ya, that’s fair. Both our separate conversations have merit and could maybe help people who aren’t behaving like that.


Just FYI, at this point this guy has been provided 2 links on the Pyfed codeberg repository that show AI was used in the development of PieFed and he says he won’t use anything that did, so any further replies from him make him a hypocrite for using software that used AI while being developed. He’s a troll/wasting your time.


He sure loves to reference this issue in his work on images, and is even so kind to include his chatgpt conversation about how to do it in the thread incase anyone wants to read it.

https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/530

Keep on fucking try to delude yourself though.


Here there’s talk on their repository about using an AI detection service (which is AI) to try and flag AI.

https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/605

I tried a 3B version of the same model and it couldn’t detect that the sample text that came with the repo was AI. So we’d need a GPU capable of loading an 7B model which means at least 8 GB of RAM. afaik the demo script does two detections as examples of what’s possible but either one will do the job.

They were talking about a service they thought maybe they could even have run on your machine.

Doesn’t matter if they used it or not in the end, AI was used in the development process.

Tell yourself whatever you need to so you can sleep at night, but of the 40+ people contributing to the project and they’re openly talking about AI on their repository, well I can’t help you…

I’m expecting no reply to this message as it would constitute you using a service that involved AI.

Edit: and pay attention to the names in that thread and who owns the repository.


I’m not saying it was entirely coded with AI, but AI has had some involvement.

You clearly stated you think any use should be disclosed, as per the old steam policy, and that you wouldn’t use anything if it was disclosed as used.

In some shape or form, it has been involved with PieFed, and it would require a disclosure if they were being honest about it.

There are over 40 contributors on codeberg repository. That’s 40 people that you have to belive have never asked ChatGPT a question about the work they were doing on it, that didn’t base a descision off the Google search result AI response at the top, that didn’t use any of the IDE code completion tools built right into the software they use to write the software.

It’s just not happening.

If you think you can use software like this that isn’t tainted by it, you’re just flat out wrong at this point and moving forward in the world.




You really don’t understand.

They’ve used AI too.

Developers are technology forward people. They try new things out. Maybe there’s some unit tests in it, or maybe they asked ChatGPT some questions to see how it responded when they had a problem vs a regular google search. Maybe they did a google search and the answer was in the AI response at the top.

Their IDE probably includes AI tooling that automatically functions like code completion / suggestions.

You’re just deluding yourself if you think you can be using new software that involved zero AI, and that delusion becomes larger and larger for every person involved in it.

They might not be actively using it, but they have used it, and it has touched the software you use.

Edit: Also while were at it, ditch your browser you use the internet in, and your phone.

Edit2: You can continue below if you’d like but I’ll short circuit things here.

Here there’s talk on their repository about using an AI detection service (which is AI) to try and flag AI.

https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/605

https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/530 and image hashing with a link to his chatgpt chat.

So ya, AI was used in the development process (planning / discussing / testing) is part of the process.


You better stop using lemmy or your lemmy client then.

Odds are astronomically high that they’ve used AI at some point on its development.


It’s to cover things like code completions built into the development tooling, or asking Claude/ChatGPT questions.

It covered everything before, and unless you’re a solo dev, not using anything at this point within the entire game studio, is pretty much impossible.

And even as a solo dev truly trying to not use any AI even googling anything and reading the AI summary at the top would qualify you as having used AI and required disclosure. It was unenforceable and everyone would lie or were lying to themselves.

This is a much better policy and more enforceable.



It probably costs 2x as much to make today from when they started planning it just from the ram.

If they had contracts in place though that could insulate them for some number of years.


That’s really sad.

I’ve used AI to help clean up my sentence structure for copy, but if I am not super explicit with it to not rewrite what I wrote, it will do as you said and take the human element out of it.



Valve’s reaction to this news in relation to Steam Machine: Fuck.

Granted that is millions of new potential steam game players.


The PS5 security keys got leaked, until they make a new hardware revision (can’t be fixed with software) every existing ps5 (and maybe pro) just became fully open.


The PS5 base security keys got leaked, it’s going to be a full fledge PC once the modders get to work. Might be the cheapest way to get ram now hah.


Doesn’t matter, the rules ban all AI. The rules are stupid.

Edit: I mean the rules are so stupid it probably covers you googling an exception and reading the answer Google provides at the top which is gen ai as if the answer was used to help make the game even if you used nothing from the answer.

Edit: or Sentry even has AI insights into crashes in their default service.


You don’t even need to use cursor. All the major IDEs are including LLMs nowadays to help with code completion and code generation. There’s zero chance no gen ai code is in any project that has more than a few people nowadays.


I remember when HDMI came out and then DP.

I wish I knew what was actually going on at the time with regards to licensing, I just knew they both worked and didn’t really pay much attention to things. Sometimes I’d use DP sometimes HDMI.

If I’d known, I definitely would have made a more concerted effort to support DP when it could have made a bigger difference.


JetBrains is offering it in their IDEs as well and they are big. You’re right that it’s becoming very common now, and it is LLM based.


Any bets on the DRAM makers getting so excited over this and having felt left out of the stupid graphics card pricing, that they put the world into a perpetual DRAM shortage and this is just the new norm.


It’s a losing battle, but it shows your child is clever and adaptable. You’re training them well.



It’s like he said decades ago, or near decades ago. Piracy is a quality of service problem.

When you do the right thing the right way, people will come and you can make a shit load of money. It doesn’t even mean he has to have done everything right, but you do enough right non-anti-competitive things like that, and it makes a difference.

Same thing like you said about SteamOS. They didn’t have to make it open, and could have made money, but the ecosystem that can be built around an open platform, and the people you can draw to it are going to be miles better than a closed system where thats the mindset from the top.



I’ve never heard of this happening before? I’m sure it has, but first time for me.


I wonder if valve can multi purpose the SDK for streaming and give it to game devs and say use this sdk to determine where to adjust how things being rendered, and make it eventually a no brainer easy to use add on.



How big a deal is this eye tracking that then only shows higher resolution stuff where you’re looking? Is it legit and works well, or is it a gimmick VR uses to say its’ better than it is?