LMAO tell me you are not a dev without telling me.
Steam does a shitton for devs, the 30% is literally only for sales through their storefront, I can get any amount of keys and resell them wherever I want and give valve nothing, and they’ll still host all my shit, check ownership, handle copy sharing in family libraries, handle patching and beta tests, all for a one time fee that is even refunded if you ever get past a certain amount of copies sold.
You have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.
valve and steam are not the friendly aw shucks corporation they’ve been whitewashed into.
And the goalposts go flying.
Who the fuck cares if valve is cute and cuddly? Who even wants that in a marketplace other than morons who think they can take advantage of someone else’s kindness?
Valve is a company, their job is to make money for the people who own it.
You the customer want the most out of your transaction with them, they know it make it a priority.
They understand that devs working there making fucktons of money is good because they’ll stay and be motivated to work, so they are selective on who they hire and then pay them an insane amount.
They want to avoid microsoft cutting their nuts off so they pushed linux as a viable alternative.
They want devs to sell on their platform so they refined a business deal that works well enough that they get several new games on their storefront a day and still make back their operating costs, despite servers that can literally be used to benchmark several gigabit download connections.
They are the most economically effective company in the world and they achieved it by not enshittifying their platform and not going public.
Selflessness would literally be a downgrade, I want Valve to have every damn cent they earned.
They’re not the only game in town, they are the best game in town, and at every turn they make an effort not to become a monopoly, either, because they know the good will of their customer base is more important than attempts at short term spikes in company revenue, which is only possible because they are a privately held company.
So yeah, are they cuddly and nice? No, fuck no, but they are extremely effective while providing a service that puts every other provider in their field to shame, so why the fuck would I want them to change?
If you’re a game dev, then you should also know how valuable every service steam gives is, if you’re just “a dev” then it’s not really relevant beyond understanding how much setting up all of that infrastructure would cost in terms of time, effort, marketing to actually get discoverability, and actual server costs once you need to scale.
Either way you should know enough to get that 30% is absolutely worth it.
They could, but why would they when 30% is fair still? You are not entitled to setting other people’s asking price, and they are entitled to setting the cost of their own labour.
If anyone is greedy here it’s you, demanding to have a say in how much is a fair rate for someone else’s time and skill.
If this was true steam would have failed from the start. Instead, the service actually does offer a ton of benefits to both users and developers/publishers including distribution of sales, updates, additional features like forums, friends, and other things that have varying levels of positive or negative benefits to different people. That isn’t even mentioning Proton or the steam deck, just what it between the makers of the games and the people who play them.
Lootboxes are bullshit, sure. He should have spread out the benefits more to the employees as well. But the 30% cut for ‘nothing’ is incorrect.
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He earned his money. Who cares how many yatchs he decided to buy with it?
No one earns a billion dollars.
Yawn
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LMAO tell me you are not a dev without telling me.
Steam does a shitton for devs, the 30% is literally only for sales through their storefront, I can get any amount of keys and resell them wherever I want and give valve nothing, and they’ll still host all my shit, check ownership, handle copy sharing in family libraries, handle patching and beta tests, all for a one time fee that is even refunded if you ever get past a certain amount of copies sold.
You have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.
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Is that downvote the number of games you’ve released?
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You stated your opinion as a fact, and qualified it by saying you’re a game dev.
Back up that claim. Shouldn’t be hard to do.
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Let’s not, and both know you haven’t made any games.
And the goalposts go flying.
Who the fuck cares if valve is cute and cuddly? Who even wants that in a marketplace other than morons who think they can take advantage of someone else’s kindness?
Valve is a company, their job is to make money for the people who own it.
Selflessness would literally be a downgrade, I want Valve to have every damn cent they earned.
They’re not the only game in town, they are the best game in town, and at every turn they make an effort not to become a monopoly, either, because they know the good will of their customer base is more important than attempts at short term spikes in company revenue, which is only possible because they are a privately held company.
So yeah, are they cuddly and nice? No, fuck no, but they are extremely effective while providing a service that puts every other provider in their field to shame, so why the fuck would I want them to change?
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How’s the bile, you seething commie clown?
What games do you have on steam/gog/epic?
If you’re a game dev, then you should also know how valuable every service steam gives is, if you’re just “a dev” then it’s not really relevant beyond understanding how much setting up all of that infrastructure would cost in terms of time, effort, marketing to actually get discoverability, and actual server costs once you need to scale.
Either way you should know enough to get that 30% is absolutely worth it.
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They could, but why would they when 30% is fair still? You are not entitled to setting other people’s asking price, and they are entitled to setting the cost of their own labour.
If anyone is greedy here it’s you, demanding to have a say in how much is a fair rate for someone else’s time and skill.
If this was true steam would have failed from the start. Instead, the service actually does offer a ton of benefits to both users and developers/publishers including distribution of sales, updates, additional features like forums, friends, and other things that have varying levels of positive or negative benefits to different people. That isn’t even mentioning Proton or the steam deck, just what it between the makers of the games and the people who play them.
Lootboxes are bullshit, sure. He should have spread out the benefits more to the employees as well. But the 30% cut for ‘nothing’ is incorrect.
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Yeah… earned…
How do you do fellow temporarily embarrassed billionaire?
Yeah man, totally a billionaire over here scratching together coins for a lucy. You caught me.
I do, that’s why I said something.
And nobody has “earned” that much wealth. Absolutely no one.
You’ve got bigger issues if all you care about someone is their monetary wealth.
I don’t think anything I said implies that it’s all I care about friend, and I’d say you don’t care enough.