Combat is certanly not its strongest point, I wouldn’t call it repetitive, I found it fun at best and serviceable at worst. The best part of the game for me was traversing Tokyo by night, the powers your character has make it very enjoyable and the landscape is beautifully crafted. Also there are a lot of Japan urban legends and folklore mixed in there too. I’d say it’s a solid 20 hours experience. But it you are in it mostly for the combat I wouldn’t recommend it to you.
Oh this sounds lovely.
I’m not in it for the combat at all, I was afraid I’d have to suffer through it, but if it isn’t too bad, no problems for me. Thanks!
Yeah, some games like this are more about the mood, the settings and the exploration, even if it and empty alley or some random convenience store than the actual gameplay.
I was telling my coworker about how annoyed I am at Ubisoft and their many anti-consumer practices and he shrugs and goes, “I kinda like separate launchers.”
Probably because announcing it would require sharing the reason for it and thus lead to questions about why they and others are still ruining other games with Denuvo…
But honestly the word “quietly” being anywhere in any article’s title or anything has become the biggest red flag for just click baiting the piss out of something. I almost always take the title and throw it out the window after I see quietly in any title.
Arguably the DRM is only worth it for the first month or so after launch. Once the sales start dropping it’s pointless. It’s annoying to the consumer either way though.
I suppose they only did it now due to some license agreement expiring?
Yep, if I understand it right, Denuvo charges an annual fee to be used. That’s why you always see it getting removed after the game loses relevance, when sales aren’t enough to justify paying for Denuvo anymore.
Kind of weird how, because Bethesda (and other publishers) are Denuvo’s consumer, this particular anti-consumer license agreement is actually benefiting the players, haha.
Weird coincidence, I’m in the middle of this rn. Haven’t played Starfield but this is one of my favorite Bethesda titles outside of Doom and Wolfenstein
I originally answered “definitely not the original ones!” ør something to that effect, but found that it might be needlessly combative, so I changed it to just TIL 😁
the reboot is still probably most fans entry point to the franchise and frame of reference for discussing it, especially during a discussion about Bethesda
that is not any kind of dig at the older games, the quality of them is entirely irrelevant to the point i was making
you dont need to come to the defense of them, especially by venting about games that i also do not care about
Yeah like when we say RoboCop we think of the 2014 movie because it made a lot more at box office, and nobody thinks of the iconic and hugely influential original movie unless you say RoboCop (1987)
which is why most folks are probably not talking about the old games when they say they like wolfenstein and doom
I wouldn’t be so sure about that, what with the “It runs Doom” meme and the fact that most people on Lemmy seem to be old fucks like me who played them when they originally came out 😄
I mean, if someone says “Doom and Wolfenstein” without specifying “Doom Eternal” and “Wolfenstein: Youngblood” (which I had to look up, BTW), I’m thinking of Id.
I mean, if someone says “Doom and Wolfenstein” without specifying “Doom Eternal” and “Wolfenstein: Youngblood” (which I had to look up, BTW), I’m thinking of Id.
that makes sense, especially since Doom eternal is in fact still developed by id
Wolfenstein and Doom have both reached significantly more people since they got adopted by zenimax though, so most folks who actually played the games will have probably gotten introduced to them as Bethesda published games
“Wolfenstein: Youngblood” (which I had to look up, BTW),
The reboots, they’ve owned the rights (or maybe ZeniMax technically?) of both for over a decade. I think id was bought out. So the Doom 2016 and Wolfenstein 2014 games and newer games are Bethesda published.
Edit: ZeniMax bought id in 2009, so Doom and Doom Eternal, as well as Wolfenstein New Order, New Colossus and the two spinoffs (Youngblood, Old Blood) are Bethesda-published.
Sorry we cannot afford to pay the DRM licensing fee. As a result we will no longer be able to inconvenience our customers or prevent people who were never going to pay for our game anyway from playing.
It’s twice as funny in this game because they added Denuvo a year after release. Meaning all pirates got the game DRM free on day one while paying customers got Denuvo patched in.
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Played this on Game pass (the only way to play De Nuevo games in my opinion) Liked it a lot.
Would you say the combat is repetitive?
This game looks neat, I’ve been thinking about picking it up on a sale but not sure if I should
Combat is certanly not its strongest point, I wouldn’t call it repetitive, I found it fun at best and serviceable at worst. The best part of the game for me was traversing Tokyo by night, the powers your character has make it very enjoyable and the landscape is beautifully crafted. Also there are a lot of Japan urban legends and folklore mixed in there too. I’d say it’s a solid 20 hours experience. But it you are in it mostly for the combat I wouldn’t recommend it to you.
Oh this sounds lovely.
I’m not in it for the combat at all, I was afraid I’d have to suffer through it, but if it isn’t too bad, no problems for me. Thanks!
You are welcome, enjoy it!
That’s how I got around to playing it recently too. I spent way more time than I should have wandering around just looking at stuff.
Yeah, some games like this are more about the mood, the settings and the exploration, even if it and empty alley or some random convenience store than the actual gameplay.
That’s great. Don’t get why they’re not announcing it, but whatever, I’m glad it’s gone.
Because most gamers don’t care.
Yeah I’m guessing a lot of people don’t even know it’s there.
I was telling my coworker about how annoyed I am at Ubisoft and their many anti-consumer practices and he shrugs and goes, “I kinda like separate launchers.”
Did you subsequently push them down a flight of stairs?
Two flights of stairs?
Point a laser pointer at him.
Him: What are you doing??
Terran voice assistant: Nuclear launch detected.
Probably because announcing it would require sharing the reason for it and thus lead to questions about why they and others are still ruining other games with Denuvo…
How could they remove it loudly?
Plastering it all over social media, I guess.
But honestly the word “quietly” being anywhere in any article’s title or anything has become the biggest red flag for just click baiting the piss out of something. I almost always take the title and throw it out the window after I see quietly in any title.
Arguably the DRM is only worth it for the first month or so after launch. Once the sales start dropping it’s pointless. It’s annoying to the consumer either way though.
Yep, if I understand it right, Denuvo charges an annual fee to be used. That’s why you always see it getting removed after the game loses relevance, when sales aren’t enough to justify paying for Denuvo anymore.
Kind of weird how, because Bethesda (and other publishers) are Denuvo’s consumer, this particular anti-consumer license agreement is actually benefiting the players, haha.
Weird coincidence, I’m in the middle of this rn. Haven’t played Starfield but this is one of my favorite Bethesda titles outside of Doom and Wolfenstein
Yeah I thought this one was a bit underrated. I enjoyed it quite a bit.
…wat
They bought company that bought idSoftware
doom and Wolfenstein are published by bethesda
TIL!
Edit to make @[email protected]’ comment make sense again:
I originally answered “definitely not the original ones!” ør something to that effect, but found that it might be needlessly combative, so I changed it to just TIL 😁
i assumed they were talking about the bethesda published reboots, what with them being significantly more popular than the earlier games
Mate, Wolfenstein means something so far beyond a bunch of entirely forgettable reboots.
thats great
the reboot is still probably most fans entry point to the franchise and frame of reference for discussing it, especially during a discussion about Bethesda
that is not any kind of dig at the older games, the quality of them is entirely irrelevant to the point i was making
you dont need to come to the defense of them, especially by venting about games that i also do not care about
Dude! The original ones were cultural touchstones in a market that wasn’t yet oversaturated. They literally invented and defined the whole genre!
More people might be playing the new ones NOW, but the original ones were undoubtedly MUCH more popular in their time.
i mean sure, but that also doesnt matter to the point i was making
which is why most folks are probably not talking about the old games when they say they like wolfenstein and doom
Yeah like when we say RoboCop we think of the 2014 movie because it made a lot more at box office, and nobody thinks of the iconic and hugely influential original movie unless you say RoboCop (1987)
I wouldn’t be so sure about that, what with the “It runs Doom” meme and the fact that most people on Lemmy seem to be old fucks like me who played them when they originally came out 😄
I mean, if someone says “Doom and Wolfenstein” without specifying “Doom Eternal” and “Wolfenstein: Youngblood” (which I had to look up, BTW), I’m thinking of Id.
that makes sense, especially since Doom eternal is in fact still developed by id
Wolfenstein and Doom have both reached significantly more people since they got adopted by zenimax though, so most folks who actually played the games will have probably gotten introduced to them as Bethesda published games
lol ok
Me too, but I’m old. I’m betting age has something to do with this.
The reboots, they’ve owned the rights (or maybe ZeniMax technically?) of both for over a decade. I think id was bought out. So the Doom 2016 and Wolfenstein 2014 games and newer games are Bethesda published.
Edit: ZeniMax bought id in 2009, so Doom and Doom Eternal, as well as Wolfenstein New Order, New Colossus and the two spinoffs (Youngblood, Old Blood) are Bethesda-published.
Sorry we cannot afford to pay the DRM licensing fee. As a result we will no longer be able to inconvenience our customers or prevent people who were never going to pay for our game anyway from playing.
Enshitification of DRM moving to subscription based ended up being the most pro consumer move in the long run.
It’s twice as funny in this game because they added Denuvo a year after release. Meaning all pirates got the game DRM free on day one while paying customers got Denuvo patched in.
Absolute waste of money.
I think they did the same thing with anno 1800, only difference is they haven’t cracked it yet so no dlc on the pirated version.
Stuff like this makes me wish I was smart enough to be one of those DRM crackers.
Same cause the only one who really knows how to do it with Denuvo is kinda bonkers in the brain zone