You can’t do anything about it, so owe up to it and offer an SDK and Workshop support where you can at least curate the experience and steer it in the right direction.
it’s funny how this was a pretty long and nuanced discussion about modding, but social media is brewing a shitstorm over this one cherry-picked statement.
I don’t think I’ve seen any public backlash hitting the developer or publisher for the content of a mod being “offensive to public order and morals” since the hot coffee stuff, and that was only because it was content already in the game. This is almost certainly a lie and the real reason is they’re worried mods will compete with things they’re selling.
Gawd I can’t find the site! It’s a site that predominately has sexy mods with humans. But I was just interested in the dragons.
It’s EXTREMELY high effort. Bagelgoose’s cock becomes lava rocks when enraged. Insanely detailed. If I find a link, I’ll send it over. It works with Iceborne!
Hahaha they’re not THAT spendy! Let’s see, we have… seven total now. Six EXTREMELY various dildos and one fuckdragon. Absolutely had to get the Meatcanyon model too, though I don’t think I’ll ever use it.
This subject keeps popping up, and I think the part that’s really upsetting me besides the whole “I bought this, Capcom, let me do with it what I want” is the idea that you can have a game where the solution to your problems is blowing someone’s head off with a shotgun, but god forbid Chun Li have exposed tits
I’m not here saying that Capcom should just stop putting violence in its games, or that it should just sexualize all of its games. What I AM saying is that the idea that sexuality is inherently more offensive than killing is straight up backwards to me. It’s not even a capcom thing. That’s just most societies, but Capcom is hitting a nerve with this
What I AM saying is that the idea that sexuality is inherently more offensive than killing is straight up backwards to me. It’s not even a capcom thing. That’s just most societies, but Capcom is hitting a nerve with this
Exactly, it’s ludicrous and always was. Especially in this day and age.
Mom/Dad: Billy what are you watching?
Billy: The Texas chainsaw massacre.
Mom/Dad: What happens in that?
Billy: People get hacked up with a chainsaw.
Mom/Dad: Oh, ok.
Later that day:
Mom/Dad: Billy what are you doing?
Billy: I’m playing Street fighter.
Mom/Dad: What’s that?
Billy: It’s a one on one fighting game.
Mom/Dad: Oh, that’s nice… Wait a minute, IS THAT A PAIR OF BREASTS BILLY!!!
Billy: yeah, I installed this mod and…
Mom/Dad: THAT’S IT! (Proceeds to confiscate the console)
As a parent myself, I understand not wanting to expose your kid to sexual content depending on their age, but in the context of sexual intercourse etc, not just a naked body.
alternatively I’d be thrilled to hear all about these alternative ways to have kids that you apparently think are out there…and then I’d like it explained to me how exactly that’s not an “expected part of life”??
I remember hitting a point when I realized how insane it is the most media will solve all problems with guns. Like it makes more sense why the culture cherishes guns after becoming aware how weird it is.
Although I don’t understand the appeal of Leon in a g-string, I also understand that Capcom didn’t make the mod.
Heads up capcom, the religious conservatives of the world are angry that kids are playing games and not praying. Your reputation is already in the sewers.
In a separate slide that’s explained a little more fully, the company adds that the impact of mods on their reputation isn’t just the result of someone stripping Leon Kennedy down to his knickers. Players who install mods only to suffer performance problems such as crashes, freezing or save data corruption can end up turning to Capcom for support, which can then eat up workload and development budget that might otherwise be spent on creating higher-quality games.
I’ve worked in software support for a decade and saying “We can’t support you because you modified this” is pretty standard. And with automated replies they don’t take too much support time.
Require customers to email support, require a log file, have your log files show if mods are installed, auto reply that the customer should reinstall the game without mods and see if the issue persists.
If you want to get really snarky, figure out who wrote the mods and cc them on the reply saying “For your convenience we have included the authors of the installed mods on this email so you can work with them to resolve your issue.”
Yeah that logic on their part is horseshit, anyone savvy enough to mod a game that isn’t mod friendly knows that if they have instability that’s on them for modding in the first place. All the times I completely hosed my Skyrim install with mods, or my Cities: Skylines install with mods, I never once thought about contacting the game maker for support. So to act like across the board modding will cause a flood of support requests is dishonest.
I killed my Cyberpunk game trying to mod it. I just changed the installation directory, re-download, and loaded from cloud save when I got sick of trying to fix it. It’s so easy to recover from stuff like that nowadays.
Exactly, if you hose your self, uninstall, delete the folder entirely and redownload. It’s a cope out to point to mods as increasing demands for technical support. If handled right modding can breath longevity and extra interest in your games. Shit, some of the most popular games on the market started out as mods originally.
Tone deaf companies will continue missing the point.
While it’s hard to imagine anyone finding goofy mods swapping cartoon characters or kids’ TV characters for grisly monsters all that scandalous - something that Capcom seems to recognise by acknowledging that “the majority of mods can have a positive impact on the game”
They probably spend fractions of a percent of their profits on moderation. We’re talking like 0.01%. Half the time it’s cycling college grads through 18 month contracts that they terminate so they can pay them less and less each time (Source: Worked at Microsoft, and they’re infamous for this. Hell, QA for Microsoft’s game division make about 50 cents above minimum wage in BC.)
Oh yes, because everyone knows. They say one thing it totally won’t morph into something new afterwards. Also how do you imagine they will “restrict” the modding? By making the game more tamperproof and harder to mod. So while it may not be “prevented” they will basically make the only mods around texture swaps or some shit.
Then just impliment some automatic message before anyone in support is contacted. Something like “If you installed mods in your game, the first step is to uninstall them. If it still works, reinstall the game. If it’s still not working after that, THEN we’ll help”
Maybe worded a little more professionally, but just an automatic trouble-shooting message that’s gonna be every support person’s first response anyway
Look at the Sims 4 support website, is a good start to see that a lot of people will 100% ask questions like, " Completely moded action, has a bug. How to fix it? I don’t play with any mods I promise."
So personally I don’t have any higher hopes for the Capcom audience, but credit to EA at least they just shrug their shoulders and answer " First completely remove your mods, clean the cache files and repair the game"
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May as well try to prevent the tide from coming in by fighting it with your fists.
Didn’t you give Cammy a huge dumpy for a reason?
You can’t do anything about it, so owe up to it and offer an SDK and Workshop support where you can at least curate the experience and steer it in the right direction.
I can’t help but feel this stance is because of a recent fuck up where a person hosting a tournament didn’t turn off his nude Chun-Li mod while streaming it.
That would be an issue of moderation, tho, not the mods themselves.
it’s funny how this was a pretty long and nuanced discussion about modding, but social media is brewing a shitstorm over this one cherry-picked statement.
I don’t think I’ve seen any public backlash hitting the developer or publisher for the content of a mod being “offensive to public order and morals” since the hot coffee stuff, and that was only because it was content already in the game. This is almost certainly a lie and the real reason is they’re worried mods will compete with things they’re selling.
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It was literally the reference point I used in my post for the last time I’ve seen any real backlash, in the first sentence.
lmao fighting r34 is the definition of futility
It’s not just futile, it’s like fighting fucking Hydra
The Internet is for porn. R34 rules that roost.
If anything I expect to see more fine degeneracy out of spite.
Monster dick mods on Monster Hunter are gonna get bigger and more grotesque. Quite a way to assert dominance
I should revisit that game…
I have. Not because of the monster dicks, though. Someone just dropped a decently-sized Bloodborne mod
The mod to give Monster World’s monsters cocks and cloacae was the best fucking mod ever
That’s a thing?
Gawd I can’t find the site! It’s a site that predominately has sexy mods with humans. But I was just interested in the dragons.
It’s EXTREMELY high effort. Bagelgoose’s cock becomes lava rocks when enraged. Insanely detailed. If I find a link, I’ll send it over. It works with Iceborne!
Here you go! NSFW
https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/8824-mhw-female-monsters/
Ask my $1k+ of bad dragon—I’ve got no answers!
So… you have a single bad dragon?
Hahaha they’re not THAT spendy! Let’s see, we have… seven total now. Six EXTREMELY various dildos and one fuckdragon. Absolutely had to get the Meatcanyon model too, though I don’t think I’ll ever use it.
Is this the same Capcom that published Devil May Cry games? I’m not sure they need modding to be offending public order and morals
More like they’re worried that mods will outshine them and tarnish their reputation as developers.
This subject keeps popping up, and I think the part that’s really upsetting me besides the whole “I bought this, Capcom, let me do with it what I want” is the idea that you can have a game where the solution to your problems is blowing someone’s head off with a shotgun, but god forbid Chun Li have exposed tits
I’m not here saying that Capcom should just stop putting violence in its games, or that it should just sexualize all of its games. What I AM saying is that the idea that sexuality is inherently more offensive than killing is straight up backwards to me. It’s not even a capcom thing. That’s just most societies, but Capcom is hitting a nerve with this
Exactly, it’s ludicrous and always was. Especially in this day and age.
Later that day:
As a parent myself, I understand not wanting to expose your kid to sexual content depending on their age, but in the context of sexual intercourse etc, not just a naked body.
I think the big difference is while violence is an expected part of life from wars and fights, sexual content is not.
say that again, but very slowly…
alternatively I’d be thrilled to hear all about these alternative ways to have kids that you apparently think are out there…and then I’d like it explained to me how exactly that’s not an “expected part of life”??
I remember hitting a point when I realized how insane it is the most media will solve all problems with guns. Like it makes more sense why the culture cherishes guns after becoming aware how weird it is.
then why did they make so many of the monster hunter monsters so outrageousky attractive?
Yeah, it really is their fault for dressing like that.
but they’re all naked!
Because we all know how Bethesda’s reputation was ruined by Skyrim.
I mean, kinda. But not in the same way, more like Bethesda makes shit games that modders fix.
That was their reputation before Skyrim. Skyrim’s many re-releases is how that particular game tarnished their rep.
Although I don’t understand the appeal of Leon in a g-string, I also understand that Capcom didn’t make the mod.
Heads up capcom, the religious conservatives of the world are angry that kids are playing games and not praying. Your reputation is already in the sewers.
This might be an issue, however:
I’ve worked in software support for a decade and saying “We can’t support you because you modified this” is pretty standard. And with automated replies they don’t take too much support time.
You could even automate that entire process.
Require customers to email support, require a log file, have your log files show if mods are installed, auto reply that the customer should reinstall the game without mods and see if the issue persists.
If you want to get really snarky, figure out who wrote the mods and cc them on the reply saying “For your convenience we have included the authors of the installed mods on this email so you can work with them to resolve your issue.”
Yeah that logic on their part is horseshit, anyone savvy enough to mod a game that isn’t mod friendly knows that if they have instability that’s on them for modding in the first place. All the times I completely hosed my Skyrim install with mods, or my Cities: Skylines install with mods, I never once thought about contacting the game maker for support. So to act like across the board modding will cause a flood of support requests is dishonest.
I killed my Cyberpunk game trying to mod it. I just changed the installation directory, re-download, and loaded from cloud save when I got sick of trying to fix it. It’s so easy to recover from stuff like that nowadays.
Exactly, if you hose your self, uninstall, delete the folder entirely and redownload. It’s a cope out to point to mods as increasing demands for technical support. If handled right modding can breath longevity and extra interest in your games. Shit, some of the most popular games on the market started out as mods originally.
Tone deaf companies will continue missing the point.
This sounds like a load of corporate bullshit that they’re going to use to justify preventing modding of their games.
Actually, no.
They probably spend fractions of a percent of their profits on moderation. We’re talking like 0.01%. Half the time it’s cycling college grads through 18 month contracts that they terminate so they can pay them less and less each time (Source: Worked at Microsoft, and they’re infamous for this. Hell, QA for Microsoft’s game division make about 50 cents above minimum wage in BC.)
Why are you intentionally leaving out the rest of that sentence?
They are specifically talking about restricting modding.
Restricting, not preventing like you said.
Oh yes, because everyone knows. They say one thing it totally won’t morph into something new afterwards. Also how do you imagine they will “restrict” the modding? By making the game more tamperproof and harder to mod. So while it may not be “prevented” they will basically make the only mods around texture swaps or some shit.
Goddamn. What a shady move. I expect it from the media and shit by for some reason it stings more when a rando does it.
Then just impliment some automatic message before anyone in support is contacted. Something like “If you installed mods in your game, the first step is to uninstall them. If it still works, reinstall the game. If it’s still not working after that, THEN we’ll help”
Maybe worded a little more professionally, but just an automatic trouble-shooting message that’s gonna be every support person’s first response anyway
The Sims 4 have a support message like that. I have no idea how much it helps but God knows it is desperately needed.
Gee capcom. Got any hard evidence that people who install mods are going to you for help?
Look at the Sims 4 support website, is a good start to see that a lot of people will 100% ask questions like, " Completely moded action, has a bug. How to fix it? I don’t play with any mods I promise."
So personally I don’t have any higher hopes for the Capcom audience, but credit to EA at least they just shrug their shoulders and answer " First completely remove your mods, clean the cache files and repair the game"
Honestly, if it isn’t “offensive to public order and morals” I’m not that interested.
Capcom exec is mad that someone replaced the 9 foot tall dracula woman with Thomas the Tank Engine.
Capcom’s poor decisions tarnish worse than mods